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Finally Solution to HDMI port (CES 12)

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
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So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD

I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
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ff7fan4eva said:
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say

Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Hogwarts said:
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.

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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now

You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.

Hogwarts said:
I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.

A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.

There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.

Logseman said:
check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.

Hogwarts said:
so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).

Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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bubblegumballoon said:
Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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AndroHero said:
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article

So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.

HearthC0re said:
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.

whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.

TLRtheory said:
You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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[Q] Stream PC (Games) to Tablet?

In short, I want to use my Nexus 10 to play games on my Windows desktop, on the same network. I have a 5GHz router + Gigabit Ethernet, so the connection should (hopefully) be fine.
There are only two programs that I'm aware of that should be able to do this. Kainy, and Splashtop 2. Both programs have their own issues though.
With Kainy, if I use anything above Fair image quality, either the top or bottom-half of the screen on the N10 will be corrupted. Also it seems there is a decent amount of audio delay (video is fine, audio is behind), and the framerate on the N10 seems to drop drastically randomly.
With Splashtop 2, it works for the most part, except input is always treated as a tablet. For example, with just my N10 at all, if I try turning the camera on any 3D game, it will "spaz out" and go every which way and not behave as intended. If I plug in a USB mouse to my N10, it will do the same exact thing (I guess mouse input on Android is still seen as touch).
Not sure if there's any known fixes for the above issues I ran into (if there is, I'd love to hear ) but is there any other programs available that might help me be able to stream PC games to my Nexus 10 at decent framerate?

espionage724 said:
In short, I want to use my Nexus 10 to play games on my Windows desktop, on the same network. I have a 5GHz router + Gigabit Ethernet, so the connection should (hopefully) be fine.
There are only two programs that I'm aware of that should be able to do this. Kainy, and Splashtop 2. Both programs have their own issues though.
With Kainy, if I use anything above Fair image quality, either the top or bottom-half of the screen on the N10 will be corrupted. Also it seems there is a decent amount of audio delay (video is fine, audio is behind), and the framerate on the N10 seems to drop drastically randomly.
With Splashtop 2, it works for the most part, except input is always treated as a tablet. For example, with just my N10 at all, if I try turning the camera on any 3D game, it will "spaz out" and go every which way and not behave as intended. If I plug in a USB mouse to my N10, it will do the same exact thing (I guess mouse input on Android is still seen as touch).
Not sure if there's any known fixes for the above issues I ran into (if there is, I'd love to hear ) but is there any other programs available that might help me be able to stream PC games to my Nexus 10 at decent framerate?
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I don't know if teamviewer would work... maybe you should give a try.

lKBZl said:
I don't know if teamviewer would work... maybe you should give a try.
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I've tried it in the past, but I believe the framerate was... horrible, even on LAN.

espionage724 said:
I've tried it in the past, but I believe the framerate was... horrible, even on LAN.
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Splashtop has an app designed for this. Splashtop THD I think it's called.

derpious said:
Splashtop has an app designed for this. Splashtop THD I think it's called.
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THD is for tegra devices, am I right?

lKBZl said:
THD is for tegra devices, am I right?
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It is, but the app works (and can be purchased for) on the N10 strangely...
In any case, the THD version "does" work, but it puts a virtual joystick on-screen for camera controls it seems (I only tried it with the WoW profile). But touchscreen and mouse turning were still an issue.
I emailed Splashtop 2's support about it and they said it was something they were looking into.
The Kainy developer mentioned on his forums that the next version should fix some issues, which I'm hoping will fix the issues I'm having.

espionage724 said:
It is, but the app works (and can be purchased for) on the N10 strangely...
In any case, the THD version "does" work, but it puts a virtual joystick on-screen for camera controls it seems (I only tried it with the WoW profile). But touchscreen and mouse turning were still an issue.
I emailed Splashtop 2's support about it and they said it was something they were looking into.
The Kainy developer mentioned on his forums that the next version should fix some issues, which I'm hoping will fix the issues I'm having.
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I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?

lKBZl said:
I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?
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It's just streaming, not actually on the device. So you could play WoW or other games away from the computer. I used it for D3 and some fps games.
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lKBZl said:
I'll look forward to that update then. Just wondering, why would you play wow on tablet if you got it on pc? Is the hardware on the n10 better than your computer?
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It would be nice when I'm not in-front of my computer. For example, I walk to a friend's house almost every weekend, and dragging my entire Desktop along is kind of a pain. Essentially, I would love to just be able to Stream games from my Desktop while it's at Home, to my tablet (which is far easier to take) There's also a coolness factor I would think if I would play some Guild Wars 2 from a tablet
Also it would be nice around the house too if I wanted to play some Dota 2 if I was downstairs or something lol.

espionage724 said:
It would be nice when I'm not in-front of my computer. For example, I walk to a friend's house almost every weekend, and dragging my entire Desktop along is kind of a pain. Essentially, I would love to just be able to Stream games from my Desktop while it's at Home, to my tablet (which is far easier to take) There's also a coolness factor I would think if I would play some Guild Wars 2 from a tablet
Also it would be nice around the house too if I wanted to play some Dota 2 if I was downstairs or something lol.
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I see, that makes sense, and it would be great to see if that's possible without lagg. The thing is if your friends wifi is fast as yours (in your house) o not.

It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.

Mikerhinos said:
It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.
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This app was already mentioned, but it's the best I know. So here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)
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Mikerhinos said:
It's almost Halloween so hey, I raise a post from the dead lol.
Is there now any viable way to stream pc games to an android device ?
I'd like to play Hearthstone while in bed And the game would perfectly fit on tablet design.
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I have spent days trying to get something working and honestly nothing will work. Splashtop would be fine if it would accept the controller input better, half the time the code goes across as gibberish. I haven't tried https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android this yet but it may work better.
I will try some more tonight to see but since hearthstone is a card game (i think) then you may have a much easier time then me because I am trying to do psx2 over wifi.

Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:

Mikerhinos said:
Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:
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No worries, with a card game I am sure it does work out a lot better then what I am doing. So have fun. :highfive:

Mikerhinos said:
Just tried splashtop and it works pretty great with hearthstone thanks a lot ! :good:
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But Fullscreen doesnt work with this and the Nexus 7, it always says that the Streamer on the PC doesnt support fullscreen...

TimTaylorX said:
But Fullscreen doesnt work with this and the Nexus 7, it always says that the Streamer on the PC doesnt support fullscreen...
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Yes fullscreen doesn't work on my phone and other tablet too.

XxLordxX said:
This app was already mentioned, but it's the best I know. So here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2
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ty, very helpfull

HDMI issues real? (about to buy)

First of all, I've read the prior threads, but my question is contextual, so please bear with me.
I currently have an Acer 500 which I use for web, email, RSS on a daily basis. On trips the HDMI-out is a lifesaver in the evening at the hotel, as anyone with kids will attest to.
In the spirit of Father's Day the Boss has authorized an upgrade, handing the A500 down to my kids for homework use.
I understand there are 2 HDMI issues with the N10:
- Scaling
(fixed in Videos and MXPlayer, and possibly with newly discovered code/app)
- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
I don't care about scaling, and can live with letterboxed video.
Just how bad are the TV compatibility issues, really? I know HDCP can wreak havoc between devices, but both the Acer and SGIII have worked well with every TV I've tried them with; I have decent cables/adapters. Is the problem a connector issue, or is there an inherent issue with the N10 HDMI pathway hardware? If' it's just the plug, I can return it until I get one that works. If it's the intrinsic hardware, this would be a show stopper for me.
Again, I know the prior threads on this issue, but I'm trying to gauge if this is an unfixable issue for most people.
TIA.

From what I've heard and seen, compatibility with older Panasonic-based TV's (VIERA for example) might be somewhat bad. The VIERA TV I have has working video, but no audio. Some no-name HDMI TV my friend has (can't think of the actual name) works fine for both video and audio.
Not sure if there's any general rule or anything that determines compatibility though, or how other devices handle TV's...

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- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
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HDMI with video and audio work perfectly fine to most things, the problem is not that HDMI simply doesnt work but rather that certain companies do not conform to all standards properly and this causes compatibility issues. As Espionage said, Panasonic's are the big one with no audio, and Sony Bravia's also tend to have issues. I use my Nexus 10 to go into my Onkyo receiver which then passes video on to my Panasonic plasma and audio goes to my speakers. It works perfect except for the obvious scaling issue because it is not trying to send a 1080p signal. That is easy enough to live with or you can do the workaround to make it perfect if you really care that much.
The thing that sucks though is just that hotels have all sorts of TV brands, so compatibility will just be hit and miss depending on which models of TV they choose to have.

Most of the time , hdmi doesnt have sound .
Many incompatibility tv s .
I personally have a pan 30gt ... No sound .
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No problems at all using it with my LG TV.
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When you say that the video is fixed in MXPlayer, where did you see/read this? I would be interested to know because I heard it was coming but for me the scaling is not yet fixed.
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First of all, I've read the prior threads, but my question is contextual, so please bear with me.
I currently have an Acer 500 which I use for web, email, RSS on a daily basis. On trips the HDMI-out is a lifesaver in the evening at the hotel, as anyone with kids will attest to.
In the spirit of Father's Day the Boss has authorized an upgrade, handing the A500 down to my kids for homework use.
I understand there are 2 HDMI issues with the N10:
- Scaling
(fixed in Videos and MXPlayer, and possibly with newly discovered code/app)
- Compatibility
no sound via HDMI
no video with certain TVs
I don't care about scaling, and can live with letterboxed video.
Just how bad are the TV compatibility issues, really? I know HDCP can wreak havoc between devices, but both the Acer and SGIII have worked well with every TV I've tried them with; I have decent cables/adapters. Is the problem a connector issue, or is there an inherent issue with the N10 HDMI pathway hardware? If' it's just the plug, I can return it until I get one that works. If it's the intrinsic hardware, this would be a show stopper for me.
Again, I know the prior threads on this issue, but I'm trying to gauge if this is an unfixable issue for most people.
TIA.
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espionage724 said:
From what I've heard and seen, compatibility with older Panasonic-based TV's (VIERA for example) might be somewhat bad. The VIERA TV I have has working video, but no audio. Some no-name HDMI TV my friend has (can't think of the actual name) works fine for both video and audio.
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I have a Panasonic and no issues with video or sound using the N10 over HDMI. FWIW.

Bought the '10, loving it. HDMI works fine on both Sammy's at home.

mageus said:
Bought the '10, loving it. HDMI works fine on both Sammy's at home.
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and what is the price ? im looking for something in good price i found some from connection lab and try to find out if its really good

Guys, Can anyone confirm if Nexus 10 needs to charging for the HDMI out to work? My nexus 10 doesn't output via HDMI if its not connected to power.

I get no sound through my Viera too, it's pretty damn annoying actually. Regardless of their HDMI 'compatibility restrictions' or whatever, all other devices work correctly with it including my Galaxy S3 and a whole assortment of cameras, PC's and gaming consoles. Hoping for a fix in 4.3.

connectionlab is good!
So far so good. Couple of days ago I asked you about connectionlab brand, but since I have no responses I thought I'll give a chance and bought ConnectionLAB HDC-10 Premium 10m HDMI CABLE. Is beautiful!
I have to say that I'm really pleased with my new baby. Seriously, you get a good quality for a good price. My friend bought a cheap hdmi cable and sait it broke down into 2 after 15 minutes! But this one from connectionlab seems like a good choice

My only concern about the shield

I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?

kuhne said:
I am seriously looking forward to the shield but I couldn't care less about the android gaming portion of the device. The only reason I would be buying this is for the streaming option, I already have a i7 920 machine with a gtx 770 gpu (talk about too much gpu for an older CPU) and have my whole house wires with cat5e and wireless n routers/access points. The shield would be my dream come true, I would just take it to any tv in the house and connect it with the hdmi out and basically play my pc games anywhere I want, or if needs be, on the shield screen itself.
Those who are married with kids know exactly why this sort of mobility is why the shield is 100% worth it. My problem? That the shield is a complete flop (it probably will) and nvidia does a dreamcast on us and drops support for it in a few years and no more streaming games.
Any chance o a type of root hack or something that will allow us to stream games nvidia doesn't allow?
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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".

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Don't even need a root hack. There are already ways around the "supported game list".
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Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!

kuhne said:
Oh man, seriously? With functioning gamepad and everything? Talk about good news! Thanks!
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Assuming the *game* supports an external gamepad. I tried to get "Rock of Ages" to work, but it doesn't. Of course, I've had multiple times where that game won't work with *the keyboard connected to the system*. It's pretty flaky. But most games support an external controller, and just work.
It's not fake mouse and keyboard events, it's a real controller.

You have your hands on a shield already?

I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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I'm a technical lead for android on it.
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Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!

kuhne said:
Oh, nice, so you workked on the project officialy with Nvidia or how did that work?
Won't you get into trouble for letting me know we already can get around the allowed games?
I won't take anymore of your time, I just wanted to ask how the overall streaming experience was? With my setup being a i7 920 with a gtx 770 and 12gb of ram and my router being a belkin N router (no A, just N). My idea is to connect the shield with a long hdmi cable to my 60inch lcd and play my computer games there (my computer is in another room altogether)
In a situation like this, will my intentions work? I am very excited for this device for this reason alone!
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The weak link in your setup will be the wifi router. I haven't had great luck on the 2.4GHz spectrum, but I also have a noisy 2.4GHz range (many APs nearby, baby monitors, etc)
Outside of that, you, that will work. I wish they had used MHL for the HDMI out, so that you didn't need two cables to be charging and playing, but I don't know if MHL can do 2 amp charging or not. I'm hopeful that Monoprice will start selling their very sexy thin HDMI cables for mini HDMI (I haven't looked lately, so they may already have them), and then it wouldn't be terrible to connect via HDMI video. I think you can use a bluetooth controller with SHIELD, so you could set it on a table as a "dongle" for streaming PC games.
I still work on SHIELD. And I love working on it. One of my responsibilities is to make sure we stay as close to pure AOSP as possible, while supporting product features which AOSP doesn't (try using a controller to navigate the launcher...). That said, NVIDIA doesn't sponsor (or probably condone) my speaking on dev forums, but I'm also careful about what I say. Working around non-supported games was planned ahead of time. Supported games means games we've tested and made sure work smoothly. But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
You'll notice I don't reply to launch date or "what caused the delay" threads. I do *like* keeping my job. That would be "leaking" information.

Got it I won't ask those questions then.
Just worried about the router thing you mentioned. My fiber op goes directly into a dual band n router but that is in the same room as the computer so using the shield there makes no sense. I have a cat 5e cable going from that router over 150 feet to my home theater room and over there it connects to an older Belkin N router which i have set up as an access point.
That's the room i plan on doing most of my shield gaming streaming from the pc in the other room.
Why would you say this wouldn't work? Cat5e not enough? N router not enough?
What sort of speeds does the shield require?
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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But you can add any games you'd like to Steam (heck, you can add Microsoft Word to Steam) and they'll show up via "Steam Big Picture" on SHIELD.
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HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.

glitchhawk said:
HECK YES! lol i've been wanting to hear words like this for a LONG time.
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I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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agrabren said:
I can't promise apps like Microsoft Word will stream because they aren't full screen... But yes, you aren't restricted to just the handful of games NVIDIA officially supports.
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awesome... maybe play some shadowrun for 2006's sake

kuhne said:
Also, what you mentioned about setting the shield on a table and connect another controller to it via Bluetooth is just incredible. This means i could connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to it. I'm abit of an old school gamer myself and not that much into game pads when taking about fast reaction in games. Love game pads for rpgs and things like that.
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You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.

emusan said:
You could probably attach any keyboard and mouse to it through the usb on the back if you get a USB-OTG to full size USB adapter/hub. I'm not 100% sure the shield supports it yet but I would be surprised if it didn't.
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You are right. And with the steam big picture thing commented before. The shield at 299 seems to be going from bargain to 'wtf are you kidding" device of the year.
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I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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agrabren said:
I know it supports OTG, as well as keyboard and mouse. Haven't tried those while streaming a game though...
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I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc

MrPhilo said:
I'm just curious if it be possible to save games to the sdcard instead? Or would we have to root and use application like foldermount etc
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I have no idea. I haven't really looked at what sdcard support it has. Just that it has an sdcard jack.

Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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Also works if you have a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, and that would save you from having to use the USB-OTG to hub.
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J.Guido85 said:
Any plans for any multiplayer games on steam to be supported on the shield. Ex: team fortress, Cod bo2, battlefield...
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given the information agrabren has given us buddy any game with controller support should work.

[Q] use tablet screen for multi purpose use?

OK yes its been asked before but I can't find any threads about this topic that don't date back to 2011. Let's say I'm feeling nostalgic and want to use my tablet as a screen for let's say a GameCube? Is there a way? No it doesn't have to be wireless, USB dongles will due, but is there some type of app for this scenario?

Not that I know. But there are emulators. So maybe there is a gamecube emulator.
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You could hook that up to a PC and use something like teamviewer online on your tablet. So you are controlling your PC which plays the game all from your tablet.

beefsmith said:
OK yes its been asked before but I can't find any threads about this topic that don't date back to 2011. Let's say I'm feeling nostalgic and want to use my tablet as a screen for let's say a GameCube? Is there a way? No it doesn't have to be wireless, USB dongles will due, but is there some type of app for this scenario?
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Using an emulator and a remote screen solution would be absolutely horrendous for this purpose... latency issues everywhere (screen lag, ghosting, lack of sync between input and graphics...).
You will need an upscaler for this. Something that either takes component video input or composite and then outputs to HDMI.
Unfortunately the Nexus 10 port is output only. There are HDMI capable DIY panels you may want to check (Adafruit carries some... Alibaba might be a cheaper alternative). Other than that, there's no way.