Engadget has posted their full review of the 80 Gen 9! - Gen8 General

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/12/archos-80-g9-review/
I post this here cause I thought you guys might be interested and because their isn't a dedicated Gen 9 board on XDA (I think).
I would really give a breakdown of what was said (it seems like a decent review), but I have to go to work now (I'm already late cause I was reading the review). I'll post a short summary when I get back home, and then let the discussion begin!

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is this new (android os install onto htc hd2) youtube vid legit?

looks like they posted a new you tube vid last night. the 20th of june. not sure if yall seen this. funny thing is..seems you have to do a lengthy survey just to download it...which seemed shadey..but then they mention having to download HSPL first which,when clicked, sends you to this site to download..then..you install the android os..and supposedly able to reverse it if you want windows back on. they claim it's a beta but it's very stable. could somebody (whose more tech worthy then myself) check this out before i try it and make a complete ass of myself? thanks! being a new user, i can't post the you tube video address but just type in "install google android os onto tmobile htc hd2" in the you tube search bar and it should take you there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BujRY_q53JI
just in case... i think its fake , hopefully im wrong
it looks pretty elaborate to be a fake, but it does seem strange. all the comments on youtube were posted at the same time (says 3 hrs ago for me) I would hold out on this for sure. But if it is real then sweet.
i agree, it would be a MAJOR breakthrough.it would be even sweeter if someone could bypass us having to do that survey and just go str8 for the download! ....and thanx for posting the youtube link. ;-)
DONT WORK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707059
thanks TM for that thread.i'm feeling a little disappointed now...i'm normally a gentle bear who forgives those who have done wrong..but since me and everyone else has been waiting for something like this, i kind of want to rip that dudes arm off and beat him with it. if it was april 1st..so be it. but it's not.
Its a total fake, tried to comment on the video and its waiting approval looks like they are filtering out the negative comments calling it a fake.
I did some research, this is the closest thing to it so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614275
Ya one problem that has nothing to do with HD2......!
since this is a fake...
this thread needs to be closed. why go on about somebodies youtube fake?
hd2+andriod
VIDEO IS A F'IN FAKE , FAKE ,FAKE !!!!!! I tried it for a few hours boot loader mode not in bootloader. i'm kinda new to all this but have read alot and have 2.08 HSPL on phone . DOES NOT WORK. also went on tmobile .com and veryone that tried has not got it to work either !!!! . Just a waste of time
Agreed thread closed

I need to vent about needing a minimum of 10 posts

I have been here since March and have read well over 100 hours of material here on XDA and just because I have not posted crap on the non development threads I can't post quality help and rom feedback in the rom development threads? That doesn't make any sense. There needs to be another way. For example, if a user has actively read/searched for a set amount of time that should count for something as well. I am not sure what that amount should be but I strongly feel it would be a good Idea. I think it might also reduce the amount of nonsense posts that people put up just so they can get their 10 posts, one reason I am posting this one.
Rant over (for now)
waspvl1
hey
I totally agree I am very knowlegable of flashing roms and been having trouble lately with these newer builds but I dent have the posts eaither haha BS for sure
i have a feeling its to force people/newbs ( no offense) to actually spend the time reading and hopefully find the answers on their own instead of flooding the forums with questions that have been asked and answered hundreds of times before.
said newbs might ( as i have in the past) find additional answers to questions they dont even yet have.
I have no problem with looking for answers. I am venting because there are many times I know the answers to others' questions and because I don't have 10 post I can't help them out and possibly others at the same time. I end up answering there question threw instant messages instead of in the thread where it might be useful to others. I am also venting because I can't report bugs on a new release of a rom that I just flashed. A bug that as of yet has not been mentioned and I want to see if I am the only one with the bug, Also I have read the entire thread and up to this point this bug has not been in any of the previous releases for me or for others.
WaspVL1
I cant report bugs on a new release of a rom that I just flashed cause im a newb.
i have been flashing different roms for a year now...........
I also find this thing not useful. I have less then 10 posts, but i use every new edition of SD build cm7 ACA, and i have a lot of suggestions. I find every new edition better then the other before!
This thread should be in Off Topic, which is a good place to make your first 10 posts quickly and easily.
10 posts isn't really that much.
well guys my best advice is ... hop on over the a non dev forum and get to answering questions for the TRUE newb, help someone truly lost and in need. you know as well as i do its something we do almost every time out and take for granted ... (remember your VERY first time you flashed anything!?!?!) how nervous you were that you were going to turn this marvelous beauty into a ugly paper weight, how many times you read yet still missed that ONE little step!
its been so long since i joined id but forgotten about the non dev posting limitations ... ahhhhh well reach out, help someone, and happy posting :-D
Well firstly 10 posts isn't much and secondly you are in the wrong forum. There are loads of threads about this in the OT forum.
ravi.sagar641 said:
I cant report bugs on a new release of a rom that I just flashed cause im a newb.
i have been flashing different roms for a year now...........
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It's not like that, but like this:
You (and maybe 10 other people) do have knowledge and aren't newbies, but are not able to report bugs, help others or contribute because of the limit.
But on the other hand, There are over 100 members that are purely newbies and won't mind (maybe also enjoy?) posting (already answered) questions in the development sub-forums, that had to be restricted from cluttering the dev forum.
The idea of limiting dev sub-forums to over 10 posts may has its cons, but it also has it pros.
And as mentioned earlier, getting 10 posts (e.g. from answering in Q&A sub-forums) shouldn't be that hard.
I have no problem with the 10 ost limit. Just post something on a random thread like this and you will quickly get 10. Just like me, I hated my old user name and now I made a new account, I'm not a developer but I have read many many hours and can suggest something worth while also. But in reading those many hours I have seen countless post just reasking a question thats been answered already. 10 posts isn't that bad you will have it in no time!
I know that if I wanted to just go and wright pointless stuff I would have the posts I need in no time but I don't feel right about doing that just for the sake of doing it. However to get my point across I have no problem doing it.
Agreed, I'm still working on my 10post requirement so I can post feedback on ROMs and bugs.
You finally got your 10 post requirement.... nice!
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It should be time to read/search in forum! You learn more reading one day than posting ten messages. When new member is learn how to use search they are ready to start posting
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i concur with the original post, i've spent many many countless hours reading and watching tuorial vids and such and can usually get through the majoirty of it all with some trial and error...
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sweet, 10 posts!

Just want to say..thanks!

I wanted to detail how much different the subsections are in xda, and how much you guys rock in this one.
Rant!-
I got jumped on in the mt4g section for posting a bug that was persisting through SEVERAL factory resets and rom flashes..for some reason i kept getting errors for processes for Samsung (on a htc..) And sign in failure for verizon (on a t mobile phone ). Even after wiping and re flashing different roms these problems persisted..so i detailed my attempt to find out why i got the bug, asked other users if they had experienced it (none had) and eventually traced the problem to the test rom i had installed. I brought this to the dev's attention by linking to my q&a thread on his dev thread only to be scolded that the issues were known, it was a test rom that i had no business flashing anyways, i should have read the thread as the issues were mentioned and known (which is why other users had never heard or experienced the issue??) And then the dev, on my account, pulled the link to the rom which angered other users whom then joined in chorus to say it was my own fault for not reading the bugs, when i said it wasn't in the bug list, was told "he doesn't have time to make a bug list for every test rom" (so where i was supposed to read that this bug existed i was never able to find, even after requesting to be linked to it).
The real icing on the cake was the fact that i spent 7 hours troubleshooting the bug, only a nandroid backup fixed it and thank god i had done a backup before installing it, and had searched extensively on Google in general and within xda forum for anyone having similar issue and no result, but was looked at as if i had wandered in, said "oh this looks cool"and flashed it and then proceeded to spam the dev thread with my problems.
Needless to say, I'll be selling this phone and not returning to that section as i am clearly not wanted there..rant over.
I want to say thanks to the devs in this section for being patient and helpful in the face of extreme ignorance, and to the users for understanding that not everyone on this site with less than 500 posts is a noob expecting to be spoon fed. I fear some of these communities are becoming to exclusive rather than inclusive. Transformer owners and developers as i have seen are very friendly and patient and I've gotten to like you all..
Even you goodintentions..
Thanks for showing that xda can be an inclusive community!
OK, flame on...
WRONG SECTION - USELESS POST! MODS PLEASE DELETE!!11!!ONE!1211
Ok, joking aside, I'm guessing maybe because tablet owners tend to be older then you're average high schooler we have a maturer crowd here?
I go by, if I can't help, then move on. No need to "flame" someone and get in an online battle...
And are you really going to get rid of your mt4g because of rude/inconsiderate people on the internet?
To join in on the rant.... READ READ READ READ READ..... so when are you supposed to post?
You would think that low post numbers mean more reading and less "got any updates?" or "Ya i agree". I personally only registered because i had a question that i couldn't find the answer to. Having been around forums for a while now (and i mean a long time) i have seen your situation at least once a year and sometimes it can be because the bug just totally pisses them off coz they cant fix it.
Totally agree.... the devs and gurus here are amazing. This truly is the place to be if you wanna hack and slash the device you have.
So thanks to all of you that make our devices so much more than we bought so that we can do whatever the hell we want with them.
Thanks again
I agree with OP. XDA has become a huge flame war where I feel that most people just post in threads to get their post count up. You have very few in here that will flame you for posting in the wrong section or repeating something that has already been posted(8 pages back).
Nature of the beast I guess. Next to head-fi.org this is one of the kindest sections I know.
It isn't my primary phone, and was intending to do that anyway, but the fact that the community is so immature and now hates me, there is no incentive to keep it
Oh well..on to the next device
EDIT: (One more thing I found funny, but no point in starting another thread)
While researching NVFlash and ubuntu/debian on the TF101 I came across this quote;
.. WARNING:: some/all TF101G (the 3G model) are expected to have a
different SBK. Until you know the SBK that corresponds to your
device, you *can not install Debian*.
To acquire an SBK, perform rubber-hose or black-bag cryptanalysis
on the associated ASUS staff. Once successful, please publish the
SBK widely, as (AFAIK) ASUS cannot revoke it from units that have
already rolled out.
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LMFAO, I just read Applied Cryptography by Bruce Schneier..if any of you are unfamiliar with 'rubber hose' and 'black bag' cryptanalysis, google it
I agree so far from what I have seen in this fora. I have only had my tablet for about a week. But in deciding which tablet to buy, I read many, many different device forums to get a feel for just as many things. ROMs, Kernels, un/locked bootloaders, support and even accessories. I did the same thing when I bought a new phone. That is where I remember Baseballfanz from. The NS forums.
The thing with the post count is kind of strange. I have seen several people with below 50 posts, phrase an articulate question with nearly all the neccessary info. Whereas I have seen others with 500, 800, 1k posts with like you said, small blobs about nothing. Those just waste my time and I want to delete them, but I can't.
Similar to your situation, only my experience was the knight in shining armor. There was this person in the Vibrant forums who would just pounce on noobs about searching. I had just come from a Motorola forum that was by far one of the most helpful places I had ever been. That is actually where I learned about, well everything basically. Anyways, back to the Vibrant. I had gotten tired of seeing this person post the same replies all the time and flaming noobs. I thrashed him really hard about it and brought to his attention why they were asking these things (ever been in panic mode with your $500-$700 phone?) and sometimes the search button brings up more info that you need. You can easily lose track of why you were searching in the first place. He actually posted a thread apologizing and stating that he would be more helpful in the future (it has since been deleted).
Best advice I can give to someone is read, read and read but also give all the information that you can when asking the question. YOU may not think it is relevant, but I might.

[Q] User unable to ask question

Please forgive me if this post is not in a format normally recognized, but I guess that I am not allowed to post my question in the actual place it belongs because I have not posted 10 times yet. I have followed this forum since 2012 ever since I bought a Samsung Note 10.1 and received a great deal of knowledge from it.
I am not exactly a newbie, I am 57 years old, have an BSEE since 1980, have used and maintained computers since the earliest days (1975),
have owned and used several tablets since 2010, have rooted and used alternate roms since 2011. Also I have owned about every high-power PDA that was made in the 1980's and 1990's -(the predecessor to tablets ).
But I guess that I am not going to know why the current version of Cyanogenmod 11.0 will not read USB Thumbdrives. So far no one else has stated this problem so there is very little need for me to search the forum because it is not there- I have read each and every post.
I guess that I will have to check back each day (like I do now), to see if anyone else has that problem and reports it. If not, I will have to wipe my tablet and use some other ROM and start over- and again, I will have a forum where I won't be allowed to post in.
What kind of posts am I expected to make if I really don't have something to contribute that is worthwhile?
I'm not even allowed to post ....."me too" or "good job" except in this "General Forum.
ROM][CM11.0][18/08/2014]Unofficial Cyanogenmod for n8010/n8013/n8000
I am using a N8000.
Steven Carlozzi
Its the rules is why just like the rule is to use Q&A section for questions .
Its easy enough to make ten valid posts see XDA Forum rules . Start by asking your question re CM in the question and answers forum .
The main reason for ten posts is to stop repetitive questions in development .
Now you may have only one post but are of a far higher user knowledge than many with 100 posts and are going to post a valid question that has not been posted before . But how on earth is it known beforehand your validity .
smcone said:
Please forgive me if this post is not in a format normally recognized, but I guess that I am not allowed to post my question in the actual place it belongs because I have not posted 10 times yet. I have followed this forum since 2012 ever since I bought a Samsung Note 10.1 and received a great deal of knowledge from it.
I am not exactly a newbie, I am 57 years old, have an BSEE since 1980, have used and maintained computers since the earliest days (1975),
have owned and used several tablets since 2010, have rooted and used alternate roms since 2011. Also I have owned about every high-power PDA that was made in the 1980's and 1990's -(the predecessor to tablets ).
But I guess that I am not going to know why the current version of Cyanogenmod 11.0 will not read USB Thumbdrives. So far no one else has stated this problem so there is very little need for me to search the forum because it is not there- I have read each and every post.
I guess that I will have to check back each day (like I do now), to see if anyone else has that problem and reports it. If not, I will have to wipe my tablet and use some other ROM and start over- and again, I will have a forum where I won't be allowed to post in.
What kind of posts am I expected to make if I really don't have something to contribute that is worthwhile?
I'm not even allowed to post ....."me too" or "good job" except in this "General Forum.
ROM][CM11.0][18/08/2014]Unofficial Cyanogenmod for n8010/n8013/n8000
I am using a N8000.
Steven Carlozzi
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To more specifically answer the technical question, CM11 as well as Kitkat 4.4 has a problem with OTG nd USB. HOWEVER, if you flash the Gnabo v6 ROM and the as Lord Boeffla for his alpha2 kernel in the same thread, you will most likely be haapy to see USB OTG working. See for e.g.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2601018
Good luck! And just keep posting and youll break the barrier...:laugh:
EDIT: I just saw you have N8000, which is touch-n-go withe the kernel. N8013 has proved very successful...

[Review][Share] OnePlus One Review – Is it still worth buying?

I brought one for myself a few days back, and now I do feel "why did I miss buying this?".
Here is a review I wrote about the OnePlus One, which might help the gonna-be owners get an idea of what comes and why it is a decent choice in the price range.
I am sharing what I wrote today, and I hope you will like
Read the review here
Mods: I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so I put it here. If however, I am violating any rules by chance, please let me know.
DJBhardwaj said:
I brought one for myself a few days back, and now I do feel "why did I miss buying this?".
Here is a review I wrote about the OnePlus One, which might help the gonna-be owners get an idea of what comes and why it is a decent choice in the price range.
I am sharing what I wrote today, and I hope you will like
Read the review here
Mods: I wasn't sure where to put this thread, so I put it here. If however, I am violating any rules by chance, please let me know.
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This seems to be the same type of review as this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3290259
Post there and avoid separate discussion for the same topic
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