Here's the deal and I don't know that this is the right forum but I don't notice it on any other device. I have a WiFi Router located in my Living Room. My kids bedrooms are located in the back of the house and I have not had a problem with WiFi on my laptop, Windows 6.5 or 7 phones, or Atrix 4g.
The problem:
When one of my kids takes my tablets into their room the internet in the entire house has trouble connecting. It only happens when the Tablet is far away in the back rooms. I was told this may be a priority setting but I don't know what that means or why this is happening. The signal is only 1 bar or 2 from that distance and the problem affects every device connected at that time meaning my wife and I would have our laptops next to the device and my other kid can have his Atrix connected and all of our devices no matter the distance stall out and won't connect. A lot of it is from streaming videos I THINK but if my signal is shared by each device the connection shouldn't be getting sapped by one of them.
any thoughts or ideas to fix this?
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A lot of it is from streaming videos I THINK but if my signal is shared by each device the connection shouldn't be getting sapped by one of them.
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Completely false assumption. Any one device can totally saturate your connection... I for one would fine out WHAT the kids are streaming when they are in their room, and go from there...
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I don't know if I should blame A500 or not, but after I got the A500 for a while, I experienced several times that my wifi router was in wrong state, I had to log into it and reset it.
Perhaps it's your router. I had a Netgear router that would freeze whenever I would connect to the internet with my phone browser but was just fine with my laptop/desktop, etc. I got a new router and everything has been working fine.
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I gotta know if anyone else is having the same problems connecting to wifi as I am. Whenever I try to connect to my wireless network with any of my devices, it's sporadic. Sometimes it'll connect right away. Most of the time, it takes two or three minutes (!) and sometimes it'll puke on itself and say it doesn't see the network.
In the latter two cases, I can delete the profile for the network and power-cycle the device and it'll connect to the network almost immediately. As you might guess, this is an annoying process to go through.
It never really bothered me until my wife got an iPhone and it connected immediately to the network and does so EVERY TIME SHE USES IT!
Can anyone help me out? Why do these devices take so darn long to connect?
This is the second router I've used (first was a Linksys, currently I'm using a Trendnet), the Raphael (Fuze) and Tornado (SDA) are running their stock ROMs. The Wizard (MDA), I've gone a little flash-happy on, but I've encountered the same problem with all ROMs I've tried.
I'll admit I haven't checked what channels neighboring wifi networks are using (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on my channel), but when I first got my Tornado and Wizard, mine was the only network (visible) and I was still having problems. And regardless, is the wifi radio in the iPhone that much better than my HTC devices?
(Just a side note, I have three wireless laptops that are all able to connect to the router without a hitch, adding to my belief that my network is on its own channel.)
Just wanted to update everyone that, last night, I checked the wireless networks I could see from my house and none share the same channel as mine, however I didn't take overlap into consideration. The lack of response to this thread would suggest to me I'm the only one encountering this type of problem, so I'll do some experimenting in an area with no other wireless activity and see if connecting is still slow.
O.K. I tested the Wizard and Raphael with a router in an area with no other wireless activity and discovered the following:
If the devices are set for DHCP, it takes a long time to connect. However, they did connect and remain connected without any problems.
If the devices have static IP addresses, they connect immediately and remain connected without any problems.
Conclusion:
The DHCP discovery on these devices takes too darn long to acquire addresses. That, and the slightest bit of EM noise can cause them to crap out. Since I don't have problems with other wireless devices (laptops, iPhone), I'm left with the assumption that either the radio is poor quality (unlikely) or the driver needs some serious fixing (most likely).
When and if the noble developers of this board get linux up and running on the Raphael, I'll be more than happy to test it out.
Since this thread was self-answering and would seem to be of little value, please feel free to delete it, moderators.
Yay so I'm really happy about the iconia so far. The whole no acees to SD card through computer while connected to the computer will take some getting used to, but its the wifi that'll probably get this sent back. It's really bad. I've reset the connection half a dozen times since last night because it keeps hangin and can only downloads app when in the same room with the router.
Now the issue is that I'm laying beside the router now and getting 2 bars. If I sit up I get 3 bars. Yippee. The signal in the bedroom, on the first floor, get maybe 1 bar and I can't stream or download anything in there. I never get a great wifi signal in there', but its between 2 and 3 bars on my phone and netbook,. I wondered if there might be some interference so brought up the handy wifi analyzer and found 4 other wifi signals all on the first channel, so now my router is on channel 11. It didn't help any :-\
So if I exchange it, will the new unit possibly be an improvement? Is this just the way it is?
I noticed that the connection quality drops sharply the further away you are, but atleast on my tablet it still doesn't drop as sharply as in your case. I have the router here in living room and I get 65Mbps, everything works fine. Then if I move to bedroom or kitchen it drops to something around 20Mbps, yet it still works just fine.
What type of router do you use.I have a newer netgear with no issues my router is in the basement at front of house almost under the front porch.concrete ceiling above it. I can go out to my back yard approximately 200 feet and still get 1 bar and OK speed.I do notice. That the indicator bars do not exactly deplict your signal strength.
I also know there is a issue with some routers and the network card in this device I read in a thread long back.you have to turn off n or g feature I think it was.but do firmware update on router as well might help.not all routers are created equally Linksys sucks in my book. Lately
I can also see neighbors wifi signal but 1 bar they are 500 feet. Prob could not connect thou
Wish you lots of luck
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You could have a faulty Wi-Fi antenna ...
More likely, you are using a cheap router or a router with out of date firmware. Have you checked to make sure you have kept your router up to date with the latest firmware?
Also, have you tested this with other routers? If a multitude of routers show the same issue - you likely have a hardware problem with the a500 - if only your router shows this problem, then likely it is a problem with your local router.
a different unit MAY help, but I would try friends routers n such. My router blows but I can still stream Netflix no problem all the way across the house. I can't even do that on my laptop which has a beastly card. +1 for updating your router and device though, that might help.
Thanks for the replies. I have an old Motorola sbg900. I think I bought it 2 years ago. I have noticed that the iconia doesn't see as many networks as my phone does and the speedtest results are interesting. I left everything default in the app. By the router, I get 9 mb/s with the iconia vs 7 mb/s with the phone. In the bedroom, I get. .8 mb/s on the iconia and almost 6 mb/s on the phone. That is a huge drop and gap :'( I'll look up updating the router. I've never had connection problems before and we have 2 desktops upstairs plus both me and my roommates phones and both laptops and the wii and xbox. I just hope I can get some signal improvements on this nifty device.
sounds like firmware or...
I would find a friend with a different type of wifi router and test your connection with it. That way you get a pretty good indication of if you have a issue with your router or an issue with your Iconia.
Bother, my work wifi allows me to connect, but doesn't allow me to do anything with the connection. I am connected, but cannot do a speedtest. Relying only on bars the phone gets all 4 while the iconia gets only 3. The iconia also only sees 3 of the wifi signals in the building while my phone picks up 7 plus an open adhoc network. I know, it's time to visit with some friends so I can do a second test or maybe this is an excuse to go out for lunch today
ETA: At McDonalds, both devices had 3 bars and identical download and upload speeds. I've gone ahead and ordered a cheap $20 wireless n router to see if that improves things. It should arrive tomorrow, but since it's coming via UPS, it may not arrive until Monday.
Every time i connect nexus 4 to my home wi-fi. Every other device gets terrible connection speed... Before nexus 4 my Nexus 7 had steady speeds up to 20mbps. With nexus 4 connected speeds go down to 5-3 mbps and even when i disconnect n4 from my home wi-fi router still acts really strange and i have to reboot it. Anybody experienced anything like that?
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Every time i connect nexus 4 to my home wi-fi. Every other device gets terrible connection speed... Before nexus 4 my Nexus 7 had steady speeds up to 20mbps. With nexus 4 connected speeds go down to 5-3 mbps and even when i disconnect n4 from my home wi-fi router still acts really strange and i have to reboot it. Anybody experienced anything like that?
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I have three desktop computers, an iPad, an iPod, a Roku unit, and two smartphones sharing the same wifi signal. My speeds don't seem to vary any regardless of the number of devices sharing it at any given time. I would have to call my service provider if I found myself in your situation.
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I have three desktop computers, an iPad, an iPod, a Roku unit, and two smartphones sharing the same wifi signal. My speeds don't seem to vary any regardless of the number of devices sharing it at any given time. I would have to call my service provider if I found myself in your situation.
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Yep, same.
To the op, I'd say either reboot the router (which you probably have done) and / or see if there's a firmware update for the router.
If no cure, call your internet provider.
Ok.. Forgot to mentioned that n4 also loses wifi connection from time to time.
Seems like im not the only one.. People post similar problems.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065
my nexus has never dropped wifi connection to any router you may have hardware issues..
skyrocket727 said:
Ok.. Forgot to mentioned that n4 also loses wifi connection from time to time.
Seems like im not the only one.. People post similar problems.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40065
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I have seen this before. It happens in mixed networks (old B laptop used to crash the WiFi AP when G clients were also connected).
1) Check for a firmware update to your router. This is most likely where your issue is. The router speed should drop and increase as needed, but buggy firmware may only keep in last slowest speed until a reboot.
2) Mixed encryption (WPA & WPA2) is a nightmare Force "WPA2 only with AES only" -or- "WPA only with TKIP only". Some clients may try to use WPA with AES and this was what was crashing my AP at the time.
3) If you still have issues, try using "G&N" only, or even force G only. Some older G clients don't hear N traffic, so they just transmit on top of it.
4) Last resort, look for a used router that can run DD-WRT firmware. Personally, I will never go back to OEM router firmware.
Hope this helps...
i used Wi-Fi Analyzer and it showed 2 really strong signals on the same channel.. one being mine and the other someone's else. i manually changed it from 11 to channel 5 and everything back to normal/// 20mbps just like before!
skyrocket727 said:
i used Wi-Fi Analyzer and it showed 2 really strong signals on the same channel.. one being mine and the other someone's else. i manually changed it from 11 to channel 5 and everything back to normal/// 20mbps just like before!
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Guess your neighbour will be pleased too !:laugh:
Hi every one. I just got my N4 last week and i experiense the exact same thing!!!!
this is realy bad because every time i use the wireless network every body in the house starts complaining because my N4 shuts down all connections here.
It works alright with the main router wich is a thomson. but it fails with the other two routers (that are Belkin - N) that are only access points!
I realy want this fixed because not having internet at home is quite bad!
Hey guys. This is my first post here. Checked all the troubleshooting threads and did not see this. Have seen the issue similar on other forums and sections, but my situation is a little different.
I have a rooted 16GB S4. I have been using the same wifi connection since August 2nd. The wifi on my phone, computer, TV, and Xbox have all been working this whole time. This afternoon I tried to check something on my computer and had no internet connection, but was using my phone. Thought the issue was my computer. Left. Came home. Computer is connected fine. My phone, my wife's iPhone 4s, TV, and Xbox will not connect to the network at all. So this situation is a bit different as I have been connected for 3 weeks and now wont work. I assume its not my phone because so many other devices dont work either. Not to mention it's both IOS and Android. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks a lot.
My plus is just something small. Yesterday my lock screen blanked out. I have my other lock screen pages, but my page with the date and time and all just randomly went blank and will not come back after reset.
If I read everything correctly then you don't have an issue with any of your devices. Chances are it's your wireless router. I would recommend replacing it to see if that fixes the issue. You can always buy one from Best Buy and take it back if that doesn't fix your issue.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that it may be the way your router is configured. (I doubt it's your ISP if something is working but other stuff isn't.) What kind of router do you have?
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If I read everything correctly then you don't have an issue with any of your devices. Chances are it's your wireless router. I would recommend replacing it to see if that fixes the issue. You can always buy one from Best Buy and take it back if that doesn't fix your issue.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that it may be the way your router is configured. (I doubt it's your ISP if something is working but other stuff isn't.) What kind of router do you have?
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I think its a netgear. We are living in a downstairs apartment. All my devices now work. It was weird. First nothing was on. Then just the cimputer. We went to sleep and woke up and phones were working but not tv or xbox or computer. Now everything is fine again.... I did send an email to my landlord and ask her to unplug the router for about 30 seconds. She may have done that....
I definitely think it's the router. Netgear isn't the best around, and I have found that they do have problems from time to time. If you had access to the router yourself that would be the best way to troubleshoot the issues.
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I think its a netgear. We are living in a downstairs apartment. All my devices now work. It was weird. First nothing was on. Then just the cimputer. We went to sleep and woke up and phones were working but not tv or xbox or computer. Now everything is fine again.... I did send an email to my landlord and ask her to unplug the router for about 30 seconds. She may have done that....
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If things were working fine for some time then just started acting wonky, it wasn't anything your devices (S4, iPhone, computer or xbox) could've done, per se. Something had to have changed with the router - not that it's going bad or that it sucks, but something was altered. The smallest changes in networking can make the biggest difference. Don't just buy new devices and throw out the old when an issue arrives.
That's great its working now. For future reference, you should get your own in-apartment WiFi, like "Clear", cheap and works well in most areas, this would narrow down your possibilities of your internet not working properly on your S4 and other devices.
So I just picked up the S5 2 days ago and noticed a problem with it as soon as I connected to WiFi at home. I have the S3 and Note Pro 12.2 tablet and they run perfectly on my WiFi at home.
The first thing I noticed was in the Google Play store. When I start typing in the search bar, usually a drop down with suggestions would appear once you type in a few letters. It doesn't do that when connected to WiFi. When I click search, the apps will show but the thumbnail pics won't load right away like they should. After clicking install the bar will say downloading but won't actually start and show any progress for about 10-20 seconds. Turn off WiFI and try through 4GLTE and it works perfectly. Suggestions show up as I search, pics load right away and downloading starts immediately when clicking install.
On WiFi - the Facebook app keeps giving an error that it can't log in. After several tries it will log in and the newsfeed will show but no pics will load, not even the little thumbnail profile pics of people who posted. I go into app settings and clear the Facebook data so nothing is cached, turn WiFi off and open the app while on 4GLTE. The app opens right away and all pics load as they should.
On WiFi - open the Youtube app and it takes about a minute for the main screen to load. Then when it finally does load and show the list of videos, the pics of the video screenshots don't load for a minute or two. Same with Google Play, when I search for a video, no drop down menu appears when I start typing. After typing, click search and the videos will appear right away but no pics load again for a while. Again, clear the data/cache in app settings, turn off WiFi and open YouTube in 4G and it loads everything right away.
Browsing with Chrome however works perfectly on WiFi. Pages and pics load right. This doesn't make any sense to me.
I took the phone back to the Verizon store and explained what was happening. Facebook and YouTube are my test apps. I cleared the data/cache on both apps, connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked as it should which leads me to believe the S5 does not like my router which is a D-Link DIR-615. I no expert when it comes to routers. I changed a few settings but nothing worked.
I posted a screenshot of my wireless settings. Right now it's on mixed n,g,b and I tried n only and g only. I disabled auto channel scan and tried each channel individually. Nothing.
My next course of action is to buy a new router which I shouldn't have to do. If anyone can help me avoid doing that it would be much appreciated.
Thanks
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connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Great to hear.