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Lately, I've seen more linux questions come up and people seem to want know what version of Linux they should use. So, I thought a poll would give people a good idea what others here are running and what they have to say about it. Please vote and comment if you'd like.
Currently, I'm running Ubuntu -- but will make the switch over the weekend to either Fedora or OpenSUSE, pending on the feedback that comes from this thread.
pseudoremora said:
Lately, I've seen more linux questions come up and people seem to want know what version of Linux they should use. So, I thought a poll would give people a good idea what others here are running and what they have to say about it. Please vote and comment if you'd like.
Currently, I'm running Ubuntu -- but will make the switch over the weekend to either Fedora or OpenSUSE, pending on the feedback that comes from this thread.
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Ubuntu here
Ubuntu 10.04 on my EEEpc and android in my blood
I was already expecting Ubuntu to be the clear winner -- but I'm hoping that it doesn't become a huge land slide win, lol.
I want to install something other than Ubuntu; so people's comment/feedback are very much welcome. Please, do share your opinions and experiences.
I have Ubuntu installed in VMWare Fusion, but that is for a class. I try to never touch the stuff.
pseudoremora said:
I was already expecting Ubuntu to be the clear winner -- but I'm hoping that it doesn't become a huge land slide win, lol.
I want to install something other than Ubuntu; so people's comment/feedback are very much welcome. Please, do share your opinions and experiences.
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If you want to move from ubuntu, but are in love with it's binary packaging manager, you will love arch linux.
If you're a guy who loves to do everything from source, then gentoo is for you.
If you want a very stable system, and also all the tools needed for programming and making packages for yourself, slackware is for you.
If you are a total noob, ubuntu is the choice for you
I personally use gentoo most of the time.
darchstar said:
If you want to move from ubuntu, but are in love with it's binary packaging manager, you will love arch linux.
If you're a guy who loves to do everything from source, then gentoo is for you.
If you want a very stable system, and also all the tools needed for programming and making packages for yourself, slackware is for you.
If you are a total noob, ubuntu is the choice for you
I personally use gentoo most of the time.
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Hahahaha, thanks for the answers. I'm not a newcomer to linux, been using it for a while now, but just thought I'd get an idea as to what people were using. Arch Linux sounds interesting, but so does gentoo and slackware -- looks like I'lll be testing heavily over the weekend!
Where's the Linux Mint love??? Haha that's my distro of choice, but its built from Ubuntu so I guess I should vote for that...
Just loaded my first linux OS and so far it is great. I will be out of windows if everything keeps goes this smooth.
I have to get a couple windows programs to run under linux and if I can I will dump windows all together.
I am running Linux Mint and loving it so far.
zippy-man said:
Just loaded my first linux OS and so far it is great. I will be out of windows if everything keeps goes this smooth.
I have to get a couple windows programs to run under linux and if I can I will dump windows all together.
I am running Linux Mint and loving it so far.
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You're in luck my friend, I shall point you in the right direction:
WINE
2 votes for Linux Mint huh? Interesting.
Linux Mint is the best for me by far.
It's based off Ubuntu but made a lot nicer.
<3
How easy is Slackware to use?
edit: If you like Ubuntu, you can check out Debian. Ubuntu is the dummy version of Debian.
Linux has really grown since the 90's, almost all the widely known distro's are loved, and supported when it comes to say programming.
Just their are certain perks, like Gentoo uses a BSD based package installer called portage, and other stuff. I think it really just depends on what you are looking for, I'm personally looking into Arch Linux and Mint, but if I'm not happy, there's always Ubuntu for me
Backtrack !!!
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How easy is Slackware to use?
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It's easy to set up and install, becuz is follows the KISS standard, but everything after that, you really need to know linux well to do, such as getting 3rd party packages, though people have been trying to make that easier with slapt-get and other overlays to the default package manager.
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How easy is Slackware to use?
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Slackware was developed by Linus Torvalds (Linux creator). It's the oldest Linux distro around and its more "Unix-like" based. Slackware is considered one of the cleanest and least buggy distributions available today. For more information, you can go here -- it'll give you the Top 10 distro's.:
http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
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Backtrack !!!
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Yay Backtrack and Auditor!!!
I have an Ubuntu box, but run LOTS of linux distros as live CD's when the need arises, such as Backtrack and Auditor. I also like PCLinuxOS and the Games for Linux live dvd's. Last time I checked, there were two of them.
But my favorite Linux-based OS has got to be Android
Guess who voted Slack pseudo lol.
There is only one.
pseudoremora said:
You're in luck my friend, I shall point you in the right direction:
WINE
2 votes for Linux Mint huh? Interesting.
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Thanks i loaded that up a couple days ago pretty cool.
Wine is emulating most of the windows programs i need but a couple will still crash etc. I am working on it trying to learn but so far it is going good
+1 for Mint.
Dual boot Arch and Ubuntu, but have not booted Ubuntu in quite a while.
Hi Guys
I like the design and spec of Adam but I would also need proper usability from it. By proper I mean word, excel, usb to Com cables in general Windows 7.
Would it be possible to install Windows 7 on the device and how hard would it be?
I have not see the device in action so does anyone know does it have PC style bios or more like bootloader on smartphones?
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That would be hard. Not impossible.
The thing is I doubt anyone will actually waste hundreds of hours to get a worse operating system running.
(I say it's worse because it's not tablet optimized)
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Not worse, just heavier because more usable as PC. For me Android is the worse one as yo have no proper apps that make it usable as PC.
As said if I could get ubuntu to run with office on it I would not think about windows 7 but I can not even do that.
Andoid main problem is the same as one on apple ipad it is a OS for phones.
Adam started out as a dual boot Linux/ Android tablet.
Have not heard anything re Linux boot for a while though.
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I seen on forum for ink that they have image for ubuntu but still no office on it.
Grr I always loved tablet idea TBH even when they were called slates.
Until late I had my HP TC1100 and was very happy but it is lucking now in performance for win7 and office 2010. Also it is so "used" now that paint is coming off.
Oh well will have to wait for a win7 dedicated tablet.
The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
smedley.jason said:
The operating system has to be ARM based meaning Windows 7 will never work (at least properly).
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Well since they patented Windows 7 core to work with Arm in December one would hope that will be overcome. Apparently there will be al ighter version of Win7 for ARM based systems. Hmm we will see but fro now HP Slate 500 is the best bet.
Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
tdh_andy said:
Ubuntu for arm, meego and basicaly any linux distribution that has an arm port could end up on the adam. If you prefer a more desktop like UI plain ubuntu could work, use openoffice.
Most applications written for linux are easily ported to other CPU architectures.
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Well if I wanted to use open office I wuld not ask for windows 7 would just go to ubuntu directly. Openoffice suck badly no matter what people say, if you do tons of docs, formatting and scripting in excel you need proper, real office.
Anything else I could deal with on linux just not lack of that.
I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
Schattenspieler said:
I know this thread is old, but with Windows 8 (shall work on ARM) on sight, is there any chance to run that on the adam?
I'm asking cuz i'm looking for a tablet that is a) readable in straight sunlight and b) offers at least part-time Windows-capabilities.
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Only time will tell for sure. Right now we can't figure that out as there is no ARM version available. Once they make one I'm sure that people will start trying.
Now that we have kernel source... anyone see Ubuntu in our future?
I have unbuntu on my pc and in process of partitioning he for mac os x install 3 OS why not
Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
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Well, ubuntu netbook edition 10-10 would be the perfect candidate, but it seems someone already beat us to the punch:
http://techietonic.com/an-ubuntu-netbook-os-tablet-pc-edition-2011-the-tenq-p07-specs-features/#respond
If we could find a somewhere to download that version of ubuntu netbook, all the basic tablet specific work has already been done, might just need a couple tweeks. I have personally had no luck to even find the company's website though.
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That does not apply, there are no hardware similarities between an android tablet and that one other than form factor.
That machine uses an Intel Atom processor, ubuntu install image on a usb drive and you're pretty much done on that one. Not so much for us.
I see now why the lack of Linux support for Tegra tablets...
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/linux-support-becoming-unsupported
(follow the link in his post for some udated info)
Its sad, but between the Honeycomb delays, and Linux being put on the back burner, we have very limited choices at the moment. Ultimately I would like to have Linux on my A7 too, as long as its not uncomfortably slow with only 512MB DDR2 RAM. It looks like Meego might be the distribution to watch for any kind of prebuilt distributable images, at least they have some big players still on board for backing, and they support a variety of platforms.
If you have access to the Nvidia Tegra 250 Developer kit, you could try building a custom Gentoo distro. I really like Gentoo for its configurability options, but honestly, I'm afraid of bricking my A7 with one little mistake.
Android still uses a Linux kernel though, so with kernel source and ability to compile for the tegra chip progress will not grind to a halt. Things just unfortunately won't move along as quickly as most of us would like.
I think a modified version of Ubuntu NBR would run fairly quick on an a7 though.
After some more digging around on the Nvidia Developers forum, I tracked down a few "work-arounds" to install linux...however, please note that most of these posts are very dated.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/workaround-run-ubuntu-now
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/forum/fedora-12gnome-running-tegra
http://www.elinux.org/Installation_Detail
I would dare to call this post, "Instructions for the Brave".
After reading those it does sound like we could have a unbuntu os
Does anyone no how to dual boot the Galaxy Tab 10.1 or G-Slate into Chrome OS?
thanks
chrome OS is designed for x86 hardware(intel and amd, just like your desktop), not ARM. that being said, I believe there is an arm version somewhere but I'm not sure if it's supported to the same degree as the x86. both the launch devices and the cr-48 run on x86 so I imagine that's the platform of choice.
I do believe that someone got it running on the iPad so I guess it's entirely possible. will it happen though? I doubt it. I'd be happy for someone to prove me wrong though
Edit: I don't know why I said someone. I know that it was hexxeh.
Yeah, I was just hoping that someone had compiled it for the ARM architecture.
And if so how to set up a device for that. Or perhaps even Ubuntu compiled for ARM and how to load that.
thanks
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chrome OS is designed for x86 hardware(intel and amd, just like your desktop), not ARM. that being said, I believe there is an arm version somewhere but I'm not sure if it's supported to the same degree as the x86. both the launch devices and the cr-48 run on x86 so I imagine that's the platform of choice.
I do believe that someone got it running on the iPad so I guess it's entirely possible. will it happen though? I doubt it. I'd be happy for someone to prove me wrong though
Edit: I don't know why I said someone. I know that it was hexxeh.
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According to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS
It is for ARM also. I know that there are a few projects out there attempting to port ubuntu and other linux flavours to run on arm - i can boot ubuntu from my sd card in my Omnia 2 cellphone - just can't do anything meaningful (yet!)
Not really sure why you would want to cripple your tablet by putting chrome OS on it though? Ah he mentioned dual booting - so maybe he wants to dual boot into chrome for when his wife's playing with it and back into Android when it's his turn
Don't want to cripple it, want to understand what the Chrome experience is like on a touch device. The chrome browser supports applications that I don't hav access to on Android.
Here are links to a company that has ubuntu and chrome running on arm. It's all running side by side even with android gingerbread.
http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/home/
here's the source code link also
http://git.alwaysinnovating.com/
jvalal said:
Don't want to cripple it, want to understand what the Chrome experience is like on a touch device. The chrome browser supports applications that I don't hav access to on Android.
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ah playing with it a different story and i was only having a go at you
First, I know it's a little early for this, since Win8 isn't even in beta yet.
However, I just got a Kindle Fire, and would absolutely love a Win8 port when and if it becomes possible. So I had a few questions for devs that might take up this project.
Is anyone already planning on giving this a shot?
Would this have any legality issues, since Win8 will in all likely hood require a product key, even on the ARM version?
Is it even theoretically possible, since the Kindle Fire normally runs Android?
short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?
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short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?
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The ability to run amd64 apps.
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wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)
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wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)
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You=noob
A 64 bit processor can run in either amd64 or intel64. Microsoft claim that windows 8 will be one big system. They also say that they can get arm to run with amd64 (and intel64) apps fine but they are accused of being unable to do so with i386. I watched the video released by Microsoft about it. All 2 hours....
If you don't know something don't pretend you know about it before posting.
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really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.
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really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.
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Go on wikipedia and search windows 8. Go to the compatibility section and read. Then I want an apology for being a [email protected]
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Wikipedia said:
Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]
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You self righteous troll.
mtmerrick said:
You self righteous troll.
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I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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um, you proved yourself wrong - i was right, as i thought. You are acting self righteous, and your behavior is best described as trollish. And im not insulted -I'm laughing at your ignorance. In case you can't see quotes or something weird like that, lemme re-copypaste from Wikipedia
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Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]
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I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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wtf with the flameing people? no need to be argueing like morons to each like that. look there will be a version of windows that will work on ARM and the op is asking when that version will be released and portable to the fire. Got it????
AndroHero said:
1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.
i think we should be trying to focus on the hp touchpad and the kindle fire, also the nook tablet to try to port win 8 to them once the ARM verson is released.
benjamingwynn said:
Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.
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Have you not listened to a single word in this thread? You can not port x86 Windows 8 to an ARM processor and expect x86 apps to run.
IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.
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IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.
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It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible
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It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible
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If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.
johnston9234 said:
If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.
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I don't need to. I'm not doing it. I came here to help and most of you threw that back in my face. I'm not here to flame.
I thought I could share my experiences with Windows since 95 and help you find hope for your kindle. If you don't want it then it's your loss. I don't have a kindle fire but I thought I should try to help you out anyway.
I can't help you with your problems unless you let me. I CAN code in a variety of different languages including C+ +, meaning I could easily pick up a arm driver for a sister device and port it.
Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. If you didn't like it then go tell someone who gives two....
A few road blocks against w8 on the fire
1) Storage: Will it actually fit in 8gig? Hopefully the arm version will without all the old bloat
2) Drivers: you are not going to see any windows8 tablet comes out with the "old" OMAP4430, they are talking about windows 8 tablets being quad core with 2gig of ram or something?
3) Ram: 512meg of ram will make running w8, if you even can get it to run, painful
4) Closed source: porting binary only OS's is hard/near imposable without a comparable device with a native version (See HD2 having almost the same hardware as WP7 and android devices).
I wouldnt bet against a port, as this is XDA, but I would consider it highly improbable.
(Also theres legal issues, MS would come down like a hammer on anyone sharing a w8 rom!)