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Updating help please - only seeing 3.1 as latest

Hey guys
just picked up my a500 (16gb) a few days ago
when it booted it came up with a quick "update" like thing on the boot screen
as soon as it had booted up i check the os and it was running 3.1
i clicked check for updates but it thinks 3.1 is the lastest
i had a google about and checked all the big forums but got nothing
I don't want to run a custom rom just yet, been and done that on my galaxy s
Cheers if you can help me out!

pipster11 said:
Hey guys
just picked up my a500 (16gb) a few days ago
when it booted it came up with a quick "update" like thing on the boot screen
as soon as it had booted up i check the os and it was running 3.1
i clicked check for updates but it thinks 3.1 is the lastest
i had a google about and checked all the big forums but got nothing
I don't want to run a custom rom just yet, been and done that on my galaxy s
Cheers if you can help me out!
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When I first got my A500 it took about a week before I got the 3.1 update..the weird part is I bought one for my brother at the same time and his got the update before mine did, even though I had been running mine for a few days before I gave his tablet to him.
I read that some devices were having trouble getting the OTA update, and had to manually push 3.1. Same might be true for 3.2.
KEEP IN MIND...
If you OTA to 3.2 you WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ROOT/FLASH CUSTOM ROMS!!!!!!
This is a known problem and has been so since 3.2 came out on the A500. Even if you root with 3.1 you will loose it with the 3.2 update. If you think/know you will eventually want to flash roms/want root access, just do it know. There are plent of roms running 3.2, and no real reason to run stock. You can always downgrade/flash stock if needed. Again, do not OTA to 3.2 if you want root access!

dam, well i just updated to 3.2 this morning using the the put it on an SD card and hold the power and volume method
I like the subtle changes but I'll probably make my way onto a custom rom when I get bored next
Does the method mentioned above work to go backwards?
And how come ppl are reporting running 3.2.1 but mine won't update to it?

pipster11 said:
dam, well i just updated to 3.2 this morning using the the put it on an SD card and hold the power and volume method
I like the subtle changes but I'll probably make my way onto a custom rom when I get bored next
Does the method mentioned above work to go backwards?
And how come ppl are reporting running 3.2.1 but mine won't update to it?
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See this thread when you're ready to go custom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
3.2.1 comes from custom roms, it hasn't been released for the Iconia yet. Pretty sure the roms are based on the Asus Transformer updates. I'm using thor2002's rom, very good one (tegraowners.com)
Good luck

tgtoys said:
See this thread when you're ready to go custom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
3.2.1 comes from custom roms, it hasn't been released for the Iconia yet. Pretty sure the roms are based on the Asus Transformer updates. I'm using thor2002's rom, very good one (tegraowners.com)
Good luck
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3.2.1 was released a couple of weeks ago in Australia. I had it on my tab but went custom and am now searching for a way back cheers.

Custom ROM -> ICS

Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!

davanw said:
Just wondering, if I were to flash to a custom rom, such as Thor... then a few months later ICS comes out for our tablets, what would the upgrade process entail?
I'm hesitant to try a custom rom, because when ICS finally comes I don't want there to be extra steps in order to get the update.
Anyone know how difficult/easy this is going to be? Will it involve having to flash back to stock first, then OTA to ICS?
TIA!
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Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
But to answer your question, when official ICS comes out OTA Im sure devs will create custom roms that you can just flash. I mean we already have ICS ports in the works.
Why would you want crappy OTA ICS when you could have a faster, custom rom ICS .

jon-.- said:
Not trying to be rude but honestly, if youre afraid of a few extra steps than rooting and android is not for you. I suggest an apple product.
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Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.

davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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From what Ive read (search function), you can update from a custom rom but you will lose root.

davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.

christianpeso said:
If u rely on this day to day, u do NOT want to flash an ICS rom yet. Not even close for day to day use.Stick with what u have and just be patient.
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I agree wait for the kinks to be worked out.

If you rely on this device pretty heavily, and you still want to get ICS when it comes out, I would just recommend flashing a custom ROM now that is known to be pretty stable. like you suggested, Thor's ROM seems to be a great one. It definitely improves the speed of the tablet and I have yet to come across any bugs that would inhibit my everyday use. Then, once developers have worked out a ROM for a relatively stable version of ICS, you shouldn't have any trouble switching to that and not worrying about the OTA updates.

davanw said:
Don't assume. I already have ICS running on my Galaxy S; I'm sure I've flashed and reflashed android devices just as much as anyone else here. It's not about being afraid. It's about convenience for a device I've come to rely on day-to-day.
Thanks for the post, anyways. But I'd still like to hear what the process would be to go from a custom rom to the offical OTA ICS.
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Well, if you're familiar with all that, then you already know how to flash an OEM ROM and would know you already knew how to do it.

can be a bit of a pain going back to stock ota updates. Depends on availability of your devices localized stock rom.( or being able to backup stock rom first). Took me about 5 days to find the right files and steps to get ota working again. Didnt help that i am a total newbie, the iconia is my first android device never flashed anything before except a pc bios. Do your research first and make sure you can go back instead of getting stuck. Here is a link to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664 another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.

blucmal said:
another thing when you go back to stock you also go to the back of the line in the update queue as well. I was on 3.2.1 went back to 3.1 got ota updates up to 3.2 but have not recieved 3.2.1 update again yet cheers.
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Now THAT is very interesting. Thanks!

[Q] K1 rooted 14_14 ROM

Hi
To be able to bypass the process of a flash to v13_13, open the backdoor, flash to 14_14 etc. can anyone point me to a rooted 14_14 rom?
In particular "K1_A301_14_14_120109_US"
Thanks

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-alpha-ideapad-k1-cwm-stock-rooted-rom-120109-build/
Although still in the alpha stage, I switched from using timmydean's rom to this one specifically so I could successfully run the 14_14 rom and keep my root. Nothing against timmydean and his work, this just worked easier and faster. Also this rom add cwm which is the only rom out currently that does this for the k1, from what I've seen.
Just reemeber that this is still just an alpha, so be sure to read the post fully. Hope this helps!

Thanks for posting the link Dueces99. I compiled the CWM and ROM that Deuces99 linked to. I just wanted to add that there is nothing alpha about the ROM, just CWM. The ROM is stock and rooted and has no bugs (Other than the ones the stock ROM has).
The reason I left the Alpha status is because backup/restore don't work in CWM, and there is currently no key combination to boot into recovery. You must boot to recovery using the included app/widget

Right, there is no physical key combo. associated to booting into Recovery, the rom atleast provides the means to boot into recovery (widget/app) which atleast leaves the option. I personally, have not had any issues at all with this rom, and love the fact that all the bloatware misc. 3rd party apps and some Lenovo apps were removed, which made the rom seem that much more responsive upon first boot IMO.
Glad to hear that was of some help to you, kinda surprised there hasnt been anyother spinoff roms from this, regardless of its released stage. Just how cut and dry it is with flashing the 2nd newest update with root, then simply flashing the 14_14 update through CWM and keeping root. That was my biggest hurdle following timmydean's guide (and still is) was keeping root once taking the update from Lenovo.
Just my 0.02

so all i need is to flash alpha 3 and latest update 120109 in order to be on a rooted 14_14 build? can someone confirm?
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prfstrkr said:
so all i need is to flash alpha 3 and latest update 120109 in order to be on a rooted 14_14 build? can someone confirm?
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Correct. After that you will be up to date and rooted.

Right, confirming with khanning88 flashing alpha 3 would be the 13_13 update. After flashing that, reboot into recovery via the Reboot Recovery app/widget included in the ROM, follow the instructions from there provided by the rootzwiki post and you'll be good to go with the latest 14_14 update. By far, the most cut-n-dry rooted ROM out there as far as I know. IMHO kinda deceiving that the ROM is listed as an Alpha (for CWM understandably) only because it's been extremely stable for me with nada one FC.
Wierd how an alpha build ROM is more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with...

Dueces99 said:
Wierd how an alpha build ROM is more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with...
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From what I understand, it's the same firmware as the stock Lenovo, so maybe a little bit of a placebo effect? The CWM ROM does take out all the built-in non-Google apps, so maybe that has something to do with it.
I hope Lenovo gets its act together and shares out the proper source code so that some good samaritan out there can build a stock Android ROM to run on the K1. I've been using it a bit on the 14_14 CWM firmware, and it's still not as good as the firmware I've experienced on the ASUS Transformer TF101 or the Acer Iconia A500. The biggest issue I've found with the Lenovo firmware is that there is a lag closing out of apps and going back to the launcher, sometimes to the point that a forceclose-wait window pops up. I've not experienced that on the Honeycomb ROMs of any of those other two devices, so I wonder if it's because of Lenovo's customizations to Honeycomb, like the ability to close apps from the multitasking sidebar. In that case, maybe a more vanilla version of Honeycomb won't have that problem. Don't get me wrong; I think it's a great feature that Lenovo added to the taskswitcher. But I'd rather not have it than have the operating system lag. I trust Android's memory management enough to not really need to go manually closing apps.

Right, im sure all the bloatware taken out from Lenovo had to have some effect on overall performance. As far as stability between the two, maybe I meant to say "Wierd how an alpha build ROM feels more stable than the OS that the K1 comes with..."
But placebo effect or not, I've experienced zero issues with this rom even though I probably don't do near as much as other K1 owners with their tab. Lenovo does need to fix this, or preferably just provide full source to all...

khanning88 said:
Correct. After that you will be up to date and rooted.
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Thank you so much! I am finally rooted with 14_14 with all the bloatware removed

prfstrkr said:
Thank you so much! I am finally rooted with 14_14 with all the bloatware removed
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Welcome, glad you like it.
P.S. I should have an update ready in a couple of days....... and this one is a BIG update

I'm glad I remembered to check back on my thread!
I'll be a rooting tomorrow morning
Thanks Dueces99

omg ... plz tell me it's ICS
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khanning88 said:
Welcome, glad you like it.
P.S. I should have an update ready in a couple of days....... and this one is a BIG update
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Thank you so much, khanning, for all of your efforts. As I mentioned in this thread http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-Slate-Tablets/K1-not-booting-after-update/td-p/548285 , your CWM firmware is the only effective workaround at the moment for those of us whose K1's are inexplicably locking up with "unrecoverable bootloader" errors to get onto the latest firmware.
We still aren't completely out of the woods though. In post 44 of your rootzwiki thread http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-al...-120109-build/page__view__findpost__p__390175 and post 47 http://rootzwiki.com/topic/13407-al...-120109-build/page__view__findpost__p__392343 , the users kennethrkennedy and aig787 both confirm that the "unrecoverable bootloader error" can still come back with updates, even through your CWM recovery. With your Alpha3 and your 120109.zip update, you managed to avoid updating whatever it is that causes the "unrecoverable bootloader error." This is my long rambling plea that, whatever you did there, you will continue to do for the latest update you are working on, so that those of us with these K1's that are prone to the "unrecoverable bootloader errors" can join the fun too. Thanks!

Is it safe to update a rooted tablet?

Hi everyone
I'm a proud owner of a Galaxy Tablet. Recently I got a message in my settings that there is an update available. This is my first tablet so I'm not veru expérienced. My tablet is rooted. It crashed a couple of times but all in all seems to be working. My question is if it's safe to update. I read in the forums about phones being bricked and other problems with updating rooted phones and tablets. Is there anything I should do before installing the update to make sure it works?
Any advice is appriciated. Cheers.

In general, I would recommend against that.
At least you will lose root, or you may semi-brick your tablet.

Rather than update, I would suggest flashing to a stock Gingerbread ROM. It will be almost the same as an update, but you will still be rooted. Or you can go with a custom GB ROM like Overcome or BOCA. If you want to get the newest, I'd go with CM9/ICS. This gives you the brand new Ice Cream Sandwich. I'm enjoying it very much on my tab. I was hesitant because the theme engine is still not there, but someone suggested to me GO Launcher EX, and that thing works like a charm on CM9.

Was just reading about SuperSU that just came out and it can trick your device into thinking its unrooted, ie for updating stock firmware but bigz is right, there's a lot to be had with custom ROM's
Here's the link for SuperSU though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

Thank you very much people for your prompt replys. I only rooted my tablet to have an access to ad hoc wifis. I'm certainly enjoying Titanium Back Up and things like that. So I would like to stay rooted. Being inexperienced I sort of was more inclined to unroot it with a superoneclick then update it and then root it all over again.
Is it possible?
And I'm only trying to do it because I believe that the company's update is always the best. (Funny attitude for a rooted user, but I only understood it recently). Because normaly they do everything for you. So if I go with IT free spirited people then I will have a lot more questions.
* Are custom roms as stable and relyable as the official updates? Far be it from me to doubt the expertise of the guys who write them, I'm just really new to it.
* I understood from one of the posts that it might be even safer to flash a new ROM rather than do an official update. How does that work? I would like to understand before committing.
* And if I do a full back up with CWM (ROM included), does bricking bother me? I'm not very sure what bricking a tablet is.
I'll stop here with the questions not to be too heavey. My tablet: Samsung Galaxy P7310 8.9 WiFi only Honeycomb 3.1
Thanks in advance.!

Well, you are in wrong forum then.
This is for galaxy tab 7"
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Misled by the title
Thanks a lot. Do I have to do anything with the thread or just leave it? Might be usefull to sbd else.

i don't remember that Gtab7 got update function on the settings .. i may be mistaken but are you referring to the Gtab7 of Gtab7+ ? ?
Edit : i just noticed that you really mean the Gtab7+ my advice for you , sell it and get gtab7 instead i gave mine to my sister and got back my gtab7 , gtab7+ is suck as crap ...

k0sh said:
i don't remember that Gtab7 got update function on the settings .. i may be mistaken but are you referring to the Gtab7 of Gtab7+ ? ?
Edit : i just noticed that you really mean the Gtab7+ my advice for you , sell it and get gtab7 instead i gave mine to my sister and got back my gtab7 , gtab7+ is suck as crap ...
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what your means by gtab7+ is suck as crap ...?can you just explain,don't mind i am also a samsung galaxy tab 7" user.

There is no issue in un rooting your device and then upgrading it by keis and then rooting again and restoring your apps and data, Some apps may be incompatible with new version but you can check this in the market.
Just did this last week on my son's tab.
If you are running a custom rom then having a nandroid backup by cwm is advisable and if you don't like the upgrade then restore
If you run stock then you should upgrade via keis because you will get enhancements
Hope this helps. There are sticky guides on how to do this so would not worry as long v as you follow the instructions your fine.
Sent from my LT26i using XDA

stock updating info

I had my tab rooted, played with roms etc etc
one day decided to try doing the bootloader and somehow
messed things up bad, locked it up totally and sent back
to acer they had replaced the mainboard under warranty
sent it back to me with hc3.2.1 on it
(thought they would have at least updated it) NOT
anyway went through all the over the air updates
still stock on ics version acer av041 a500 1.033.00 pa cus1
i know there is a newer version i have seen before but tab
keeps saying im up to date now
i really dont care about rooting (dont need to) but
my question is this...
is there a safe update.zip file that i can load and reboot
and update without rooting just run and stay stock???
i have found this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1816560
but it has a lot of links and need to know the correct one
thank you in advance....

what about these ones from civato....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633907
Acer official ICS roms
NEW ACER RELEASE
Acer_AV041_A500_1.054.00_WW_GEN1-FULL-ROOT (original odex)
Thanks to Vache providing the OTA files
-Bootloader.blob & stock recovery removed. (your custom recovery and bootloader stay intact)
-Full root patched kernel , thanks to ezterry for providing me the script to do it.
-SuperUser installed in system
-EsFileExplorer & Flashplayer in data (can be removed like any app from the market)
-NOTHING ELSE IS CHANGED !!
Not deodexed or zipaligned , really nothing else is changed!
DEODEXED AND ZIPALIGNED VERSIONS BOTTOM OF THIS THREAD !
So if you got problems with it you got problems with Acer.
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is root and custom recovery required for them?
i am bone stock with just ota updates
and plan on leaving it that way if i can
just want to update to the newest 1.054 version....

metalmenance said:
is root and custom recovery required for them?
i am bone stock with just ota updates
and plan on leaving it that way if i can
just want to update to the newest 1.054 version....
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yeh....will need to flash it via cwm....
I havent been able to find a the 1.054 have u checked acer website???
someone out there may have an OTA they can share with you tho???
sorry not much help when it comes to stock stuff,

Ok just decided to try the one click root i found
I am once again rooted with superuser installed
tried titanium backup and works fine
So now which is the latest version I can get
(having the screen flickers and weak wifi is main reason
for even messing with it)
thanks in advance