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[Q] Is this normal battery use?

After 8.5 hrs of sleep I woke up to only 77% battery and when I went to bed it was at 100%... so with ZERO use of the phone it dropped 23%.. seems like a lot to me but is this normal for everyone? I'm running DJ05, Superclean .7, the stable version of geekniks kernel..

If I don't set airplane mode when I go to sleep at night, after 8 hours I will have lost anywhere from 20-30% of my battery. I have terrible coverage at my place, so that is the reason that is causing it. It's not nearly as bad if I turn off sync, but still drops >10%. In airplane mode though, I lost 2-3% over 8 hours last night.

I'm having the same problem, even at work if I take my phone off at full charge and just let it sit, 3hrs later its down 20%. and that's with me not touching it. I'm running the same thing

I turn auto-sync off at night and go to bed with 97% and wake up with 94%. I had battery issues with the xda app before though SEE HERE. No one else seems to have noticed this and it even contiued into DJ05. Might be something to look into or you might discover what is killing you.
good day.

Wipe the battery stats after flashing a kernel or rom. But before you do that, charge the phone to 100%. After wiping battery stats, disconnect the charger and use the phone regularly and let it die out. Then charge it back to 100%, not turning it on. This is a battery calibration, and I always do this after flashing a kernel. I've had instances where I've had the battery go down 1% during the night after doing this.
Rockin' DJ05, Minimal Icognito, Clocked at 1.3Ghz

Eh, it's a bit surprising that display took up 40% while your phone was supposedly asleep; maybe something woke it up during the night and turned the screen on.

That's about what I get over night, but i'm using a not using a custom kernel.

try a different kernel
after trying every kernel available, ive ended up with jt's 11/29 kernel being the absolute best on battery life. im getting around 30 hours with normal use, all other kernels seem to last 12-14 on my phone.

I turned off auto sync and only lost 10%.. So that helped, I also just installed a new kernel so we well see how that runs too..
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did the battery calibration and I have had the phone off the charger and using it for about an hour now and it only dropped one percent so far..usually it would be like 15 percent
SCH-I500 - DJ05/SuperClean .9/Nemesis OTB 1200lv/Voodoo5/Darkstar

*228 option 2 happened to me 3 weeks ago
Edit also erase battery stats
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One improvement I have noticed in the battery is it cut off about 1/3 of the time to get a charge.. In about 2 hours I went from 23% to 85% (with the phone running) and there is no way I would have been able to do that when I was running DI01.. IDK if it has anything to do with with the ROM, Kernel, or the fact that I'm on DJ05 but ever since I updated my charge time was cut by 1/3..

Hi there,
as you can see at the screenshot, there is about 3 to 6 Percent CPU Activity, no Device usage and the Battery drained from 100 down to 70% over night. I tried it with
1)Battery Doc (cycle charge)
2)Delete the battery history, and did this
1.Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2.Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3.Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for one hour
it looks like that this is normal, right ?
Thanks for your help

what is your time without service? Settings > About Phone > Battery Use > Cell Standby

Thx for the quick response, it is 37%. "Witout service" means, the phone tries to find a signal, or some kind of "sleep mode" ?

rebirthan1x said:
Thx for the quick response, it is 37%. "Witout service" means, the phone tries to find a signal, or some kind of "sleep mode" ?
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It means that it's trying to find a signal. The more it tries to find a signal, the more the battery drains. Try putting it into airplane mode at night, probably will only have a few % lost on the battery then.

Actually it won't matter if you use a custom rom or kernel, smartphone these days will lose battery like crazy if you use heavy net data. I have DX and Droid2, they are the same way with froyo.
Also in case those of who didn't know, whenever you flash a rom, you automatically wipe your battery stats and others.
You definitely shouldn't wipe battery stats when you are on the midway. You should wipe either at nearly dying or completely full. However, wiping battery only "recalibrates," it does not increase the actual battery juice.

Different ROMs/kernels can help you minimize the battery drain as much as possible though by limiting how much is used by the cpu or background apps accessing the net.

imnuts said:
Different ROMs/kernels can help you minimize the battery drain as much as possible though by limiting how much is used by the cpu or background apps accessing the net.
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Actually no. Different roms have all the same basic data usage, basic google auto-sync. Roms can't control what or how much data will be used by an app. Kernels also can't control how much net data will be utilized. Kernels can shutoff apps based on complier/lowmemkiller fix but that is based on the memory status, not net data usage.

What is the app's name for the battery usage percentage?
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[Q] mikg 1.03 battery issues

This is by far my favorite Rom yet but I'm having battery issues that I haven't had before. I unplugged my phone last night at 100% and when i woke up 5 hours later my battery was at 68% normally it would only drop about 10% or less in 5 hours. any ideas? I have all new radios and wimax and such.

Is your phone sleeping?
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Once we get a new custom kernel, it should remedy the battery issues on that ROM.
We just have to wait for HTC to release the source for the latest kernel.

OK stupid question how do I know if my phone is sleeping ?

At 7am I reset battery stats and put in a 100% battery (charged on an external charger)
Now (11:15) I am at 69% I expect this to get better once the batt stats are done.
I have new radios and the kernel for the ROM.

stock battery. i dont think my phone is sleeping.

If you have mobile data on, your battery will drain a lot faster, especially while we're all stuck with the stock kernel

No battery problems here. Altho it is the stock Kernel, i can easily use my phone for a full day with several calls, a bit of gaming and youtube (3G) while in the pooper and have 50-60% remaining in the evening
Try to reduce app sync frequency (you don't need that when in bed really..), LED notifications
No juice defender, or taskiller, or extended battery- just using setCPU with "onDemand" governor

That's about where mine is, too. I'm used to my SBC setup though, where I'd be at 85% by the end of the day.

You should not be losing that much battery over night. I generally only lose 2-3%. Have you checked your battery usage? Post a screen shot of it.
It looks like this
http://smartphoneblogging.com/wp-co...ngerbread_battery_consumption_app_graphic.png
You can see when your phone is awake vs screen off. And if you click on the apps in the list, it will tell you how long that app kept the phone awake,

So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.

gfullwr70 said:
So when can we expect a custom kernel. i use set cpu with ondemand also no juice defender or app killers here either.
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Probably at the end of the month. :/
If watching paint dry is your thing, you can look back here
http://developer.htc.com/

my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps

gfullwr70 said:
my phone signal and wifi are lit up all way across i can see my phone wakes in tiny increments and then sleeps
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So something is waking up your device then. You don't have the wake lock issue. Do you use google latitude? That is a huge battery hog

yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.

gfullwr70 said:
yes i do use latitude all my sync like facebook and weather are set to 1 hour but have always been and never had this problem before.
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Try it w/o latitude on. I only drop 1-2 maybe 3% through the night once i turned those off. I have my facebook contacts set to sync once a day (don't really need more than that unless you add friends a lot or they update their picture frequently)
Weather I have set to 3 hours, but there is an option to update on device wake..so that isn't an issue either.
Give it a try and see if it helps.
Also if you haven't calibrated your battery, charge your phone to 100%, boot to recovery and wipe battery stats, drain battery til phone shuts off and then charge phone back to 100%. I can usually get about 24 hours of moderate use out of my phone.

ok will try those. i did battery wipe just yesterday

just click the link in my signature for some really good battery tips

OK guys so nothing I done helped my battery life while sleeping so I wiped wiped and wiped again and reflashed twice set everything back up and now my phone sleeps again. These roms can be funny like that sometimes I guess. Any thoughts on that?
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Roms, especially ones that are ports, can be weird like that sometimes. If a couple of wipes and a re-flash did the trick then I'd say that's great.
If not, then it's just bad luck I guess. Hopefully the kernel source will come out in the next few weeks and we'll be able to get kernels that can squeeze out better battery life.

Terrible atrix battery

I've unlocked and am running Ken's Alien ROM and so far I really like this. Im an international user on orange uk, so I use faux123's kernel for Oc and ram fix. But there is one caveat. I have really rubbish battery life. I did all the stuff (charge to 100% from 0% wipe stats, calibrate). The fact is, I left it on, for ten hours. The display was on for about 2. No usage. When I returned the battery was 30%, with phone idle consuming 30%. Newer radio needed? What can I do? My baseband is N_01.95.00R .
I've heard good things about the newest AT&T radio for battery. How can I flash this to an international ATRIX?
Help appreciated

Edit : phone idle consumed 40% :O

I have the exact same issue. Unfortunately, all that I can say is that changing neither kernel, radio or rom did fix this issue. I had some improvements when I followed this topic and flashed back my stock kernel (with no OC), but still very far from what I would consider a decent battery lifetime (10h with 3g + email and twitter sync and screen off)
Some users have tried and it worked well from them. I'm on the team that didn't work ): But you could give it a shot

Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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_Dennis_ said:
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
OP stated he tried calibration without success... I too am having subpar battery performance - interested to see what others have done to achieve better battery performance besides the previously mentioned methods.
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_Dennis_ said:
Calibrate your battery. Charge to 100% wipe battery stats. Then discharge to shut off. Then charge to 100% again.
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I've done all that stuff, but it doesn't help IMHO. (at least it didn't do anything for me)
Only 2 real fixes that have worked for me are these:
1. Freeze unnecessarily apps with Titanium Backup (use "System panel" from the Market to find out what keeps constantly running/popping up in the background that you don't need)
AND
2. Turn off Automatic Sync, and get in the habit of doing that stuff manually all at once.
@2. I use to sync in the worst signal areas, and that drained the **** out of my battery. Sync/get your updates manually in strong signal areas whenever possible...

New radio from the fruitcakes thread and the latest faux123 kernel seemed to kill that bug.
I sold my atrix to my less then nerdy friend and I just fixed that bug for him yesterday. Same deal tho...
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I noticed from X2 battery (I think) every minute or two the phone constantly checks for either cell or data signal. I can let my iphone 4 sit on the counter all day and it might use 1-2% but my atrix drops 5% in an hour without touching it. No calibration or battery fix will help. Even CM7 uses it fairly quickly. Im running Alien 4 with max battery saver and gps and auto sync disabled...it should last for a full day with heavy usage.

Alien 4 w/theme, faux123 kernel, everything at stock settings for this rom, nothing frozen, and I am sitting at 1 day and 13 hours with 28% left, mostly idle, but an hour long call and bit of game playing.
If you are getting something on the order of just a few hours then your phone or battery must be bad. I am doing nothing to extend the battery life other then using the default settings.

The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.

Phoneguy589 said:
The phone should get 2 days sitting on the counter..LOL Of all the phones I've had and iPhones I've jailbroken, there is definately something wrong with the Motorola or Android software running on this phone. I've never had to worry about calibrating or battery fixes. This is just my honest opinion. I've had 2 ROMs in all the ones I've flashed that had good battery life and I think it was a coincedence that maybe something didn't load right or got deleted by accident.
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Most iphone users need to charge at LEAST once a day. A lot of them charge more than once. I can sometimes get 2 days usage from my Atrix, with heavy texting, some calls, and some games - which is pretty damn good.
Maybe your battery is the issue. not all Atrix are created equal and not all batteries function the same

When you go into settings>running apps, does your free and used ram add up to over 800? Mine used to and now it doesn't. It adds up to like 750....I always thought it would add up to mid to upper 800's. It also could be the battery but I was pointing out that I have left my wife's Iphone 4 and my atrix on the counter all day (neither one got used) and my atrix was down in the 70% range and her phone was at 96%. I'm just thinking something is running or consuming the battery. I've used fastboot to do all wipes and still seem to be having an issue.... I also flash ROMs every few days so maybe the battery calibration doesn't have time to really calibrate. I'll pick a combo I like and keeep it for a few days and see if I notice a better battery life.

How long has it been since you've flashed a ROM? It usually takes a few days for it to settle back in and provide decent battery life (at least from my experience). My phone right now has been on for a little over 7 hours and is at about 55% with Display using up 60% of the battery (3hrs on). This is with the Alien v4 and Faux's latest kernel. The first few days after flashing a ROM my phone would usually only last about 7 hours.

i get 2-3 days on stand by. and about 6-8 hours of straight use. 3-5 if i'm using mobile broadband.
1: keep gps and data off (background data is almost irrelevant.)
2: use green power
3: use a task manager to close applications that you are not using. (be sure you can add "ignore" exceptions otherwise get a different manager. anyone who says not to use a task manager is a ****ing punk hipster ***** fag who's irreparable damage to the geeks good name will not go unpunished)
4: do the "wipe battery stats" bit after every flash (100% charge, wipe stats, full discharge)
5: is to install a custom kernel and use SetCPU to underclock to 312 while the screen is off..
most importantly: use your head. if you stream 1080p using mobile broadband for 2 hours your battery is dead.

I flash ROMs every few days but I call BS on the whole "Battery Calibration" thing. If my battery is showing 4200mv...it's full. It will die faster the more processes the phone does so my point it....whether I flash a rom every day it shouldn't matter, if the phone (After I set up and install whetever apps) gets unplugged, something drains the battery. Maybe the infra red sensor is always on, or a process is always starting and ending, who knows but the battery cannot be calibrated, the phone might need to be calibrated to read the correct voltage but batteries don't hold memory unlike the old NiCD rechargables from years ago.

When you flash a rom the battery stats get messed up. Based on what I know the way the battery drains depends on previous battery usage data hence the reason why it last longer after a few days of use after a rom is flashed. It needs to build up new data to correctly report battery use. Maybe I'm wrong but my experience supports this.
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I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)

After you charge your phone and take it off the charger, reboot it.
It seems that a process kills the phones battery after you take it off the charger. You have to reboot after taking it off. It works wonders. Currently on 16 hours of use @ 45% battery on alien rom with stock kernel.
Cheers.

lilhaiti said:
I am running Alien v4 with the stock kernel and I am getting well over a day with pretty heavy usage (phone calls, texts, emails, FB, twitter, XDA, Games). My setup:
Battery Mode= Maximum Battery Savings
Auto Brightness off, usually on 30%
Unused blur apps frozen
Reinstalled performancemanager.apk (blur task manager), set to kill unnecessary apps after 2 minutes of inactivity
No overclock, I don't see the need to overclock outside of high benchmark scores. Without overclock I still play every game smoothly without any hickups or slow downs. The phone still feels super fast without it.
I turn off all unused services (gps, bluetooth, wifi)
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I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.

Phoneguy589 said:
I use the same battery settings recently. I turn off GPS and Sync unless I'm using navigation. Which blur apps do you freeze? I just noticed (read on the Alien thread) On the unlock screen, hold the home button and it unlocks. I wonder if something like in pocket detection keeps the IR eye on all the time.
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I have frozen:
All of the authenticators
Weather
Tasks,
Home,(I use launcher pro)
Music (I use Poweramp)
Toggle Widgets,
News,
GingerBlur,
Gallery, (I use QuicPic)

[Q] Randomly bad battery drain

About a month ago, I was running RoyalGinger 3.0 with bluetooth, GPS, and background data disabled, and I was only using my home wifi to get online. My phone would pretty much hold a 100% charge for 5-8 hours if I left the screen off. I was pretty amazed at my battery life. Then I decided I wanted to try a different rom, so I backed up in CWM and did that. When I returned to RoyalGinger, my phone wasn't holding the 100% charge for as long anymore and hasn't done it since then (yes, I did re-calibrate the battery, like twice at least).
Recently though, my phone has been having horrible battery life under the same conditions. The only difference is that now I use LauncherPro instead of the stock launcher. I'll charge to 100% + 15 minutes or so, and with the screen off, the phone divebombs to about 95% within an hour and a half. If I actually use the phone, it will lose 30% in 2 hours. I have no idea what the problem could be since I don't have any data-syncing apps in the background and I'm really just texting people.
Any ideas?

The consumption doesn't sound like anything out of normal. A difference in signal quality (radio or WiFi) or using radio for data instead of WiFi can cause that.
In any case, just check the apps that use your battery, and see that you don't have any process getting CPU stuck on 100% (you can see CPU load in System Panel Lite, for example).

Download the apps below.....this will help you out.....
Use the app SetCPU for Root Users
It allows control of certain aspects of the Linux cpu freq driver, allowing for overclocking, underclocking, or tweaking speeds and settings. Download it here.
Use the app Battery Booster
Battery Booster is a powerful battery boosting tool and power management application specially designed for Android devices. Download it here.
Always remember to remove the charger immediately when the battery level reach 100% for longer battery life.

Battery Drainage

I've been using the Aria for 2 years now, and just 2 days ago I ran into an unexpected battery drainage problem.
1. When I am speaking during a call and not holding the phone close to my ear, the proximity sensor is not always triggered which causes the screen to stay on. While the screen is on, the battery drains 1% every minute (or every 30s). When I turn the screen off, the drainage is fine.
2. When I receive text messages (voicemails from my landline trigger a text message on my Aria), the battery drainage is very bad (1% per minute or 30s).
I never use data networks (turned off), background data and autosync are both turned off, gps is always off, wifi is always off, screen brightness is always custom at the 3rd lowest brightness setting. Basically, I try to conserve battery life and only use the phone for talking.
When I looked at battery usage, it was mostly due to Android System, Voice Calls, and Cell Standby.
I'm running the very old Liberty Froyo Rom (the version released like 2 years ago) and the default CM7 kernel. Also, I upgraded to the newest radio to fix this problem, but it didn't seem to make a difference. I don't think these things should be causing the problems since it only occurred 2 days ago while these things have been constant.
Any ideas what is going on or what I can do to make my phone last longer? Talking on the phone for 30 min from full charge takes my phone down to 25%...

honestly at this point my battery meter is completely wonky. the percents mean nothing now. i still get roughly the same battery life but it'll burn through large chunks of percentage in minutes but sit at a single percent for hours or active use.
i'd say try a new battery

If you've got clockworkmod installed, boot into recovery and wipe battery stats. If you're still experiencing this, try a different rom. I've been using CyanogenMod 7 for a long time with no issues.
If this fails, it's probably your battery. It might just be pooped out. If you get a new one always buy and OEM battery! Don't get anything off-brand.

really? its about the battery? not the OS itself?

after 2 years of use it's safe to assume that it's the battery and no necessarily the rom.

2 years with the same battery? old battery i say and is usually the life expectancy with it. i say you get a new battery. or try charging your battery all the way full. wipe the battery stats. then let your phone die, then completely recharge it all the way up again. that worked for me.

Battery life with ANY Android phone is hit and miss, but the Aria is notoriously terrible with it. However, there are several "tweaks" you could do to help it (note: I said help, not fix.). Beyond the basic system setting adjustments, I have found the "Die Hard Battery Calibrator" script by zeppelinrox to be helpful. Look for his V6 SuperCharger thread here on XDA to find it (as well as other useful scripts). Of course, the usual caveats apply: S-OFF, root, magic powers, etc.