Well, I got my newly upgraded to 4G LTE Xoom back yesterday. I am extremely pleased with how quickly the process went and how well the Xoom runs after the upgrade. I never had a Verizon contract on my Xoom. I only used it on WiFi. I pulled the 4G LTE SIM card out of my Bionic and stuck it in my Xoom and fired it up, and it worked.
I really don't know what the implications are of doing this. I only left the card in the Xoom for about ten minutes, then put it back into my Bionic. I was thinking about going to the Verizon store and asking them about it, but I am sure that they will just tell me the same thing they told me before I got the upgrade...that there is no way it will work.
It seems that for people who were grandfathered into an unlimited data plan on their phone, this would allow them to move their unlimited plan to the Xoom.
On a side note, the phone still functions as a 3G smartphone with the 4G LTE SIM card removed. For those who live in a 3G market, pulling this card out should not make any difference because the LTE is disabled for now anyway.
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On a side note, the phone still functions as a 3G smartphone with the 4G LTE SIM card removed. For those who live in a 3G market, pulling this card out should not make any difference because the LTE is disabled for now anyway.
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Why pull out the sim? Are you going to get longer battery life with the sim out?
Will that make the XOOM only work on 4g, or will it enable 3g also even if the XOOM has never been activated?
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Will that make the XOOM only work on 4g, or will it enable 3g also even if the XOOM has never been activated?
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Only 4G...for the 3G to work, the Xoom has to be activated. Still pretty cool. I have the 4G hotspot on my phone, so it really is of no consequence to me. I just figured I would let you guys know that the 4G Xoom can get on the 4G network with the SIM out of a Bionic.
Has anyone tried putting an activated Xoom sim in an LTE phone to see if that works too?
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This is neat, and I have unlimited 4G hotspot on my Bionic, but I hope to heck Verizon doesn't decide to close this little hole, because it'd be a nice perk for those of us who fork over massive amounts for both 4G and hotspot, and are using the tablet with the hotspot anyhow, to be able to just put it right in the darn tablet.
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I just bouth my motorola xoom 3g 4g and i want to know if i can use my thunderbolts sim for my xoom i bouth my xoom from ebay????
I would doubt it, if that was all that was required I doubt the majority of us would be complaining about not having LTE Xooms.
I believe there's a chip or radio that needs to be installed on the device to allow it to utilize the LTE/4G signal.
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Well but if my xoom has activated the 4g. I can use my thunderbolts sim to have 4g on it???
Apparently this is right out of your Thunderbolt's manual
"The 4G SIM card provided to you by Verizon Wireless contains your phone number, service details, and phonebook/message memory. It enables you to make calls and access the Internet using a 4G LTE network. While you’re abroad, you could also connect to a CDMA network. The Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card is compatible with any Verizon Wireless 4G certified device. You can move the 4G SIM card from one device to another and your wireless service will work seamlessly as long as you have a compatible device and service plan. To see which devices are compatible with the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card, visit verizonwireless.com/certifieddevice."
So if you have a 4G enabled Xoom you should be good to go, although if you sent your Xoom back to Moto/Verizon I don't see why they wouldn't have given you the SIM anyways.
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So if you have a 4G enabled Xoom you should be good to go, although if you sent your Xoom back to Moto/Verizon I don't see why they wouldn't have given you the SIM anyways.
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Unlimited data on my xoom would be awesome...
I might even try to ditch the t-bolt if there were a way to make vzw calls on my xoom. I would of course have to keep the t-bolt line but I could ditch my data plan on my xoom.
I asked t mobile this question they said no as xoom requires a higher banding of data and doing so wood result in a huge bill
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I asked t mobile this question they said no as xoom requires a higher banding of data and doing so wood result in a huge bill
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I don't think that the Xoom enabled for LTE would even be able to use T-Mobiles HSPA network.
So if the xoom has no enable the 4g lte i can send it to motorola and they will be enable that or just verizon can?? To be upgrate need be active on verizon or no??
CARLITOZ18 said:
So if the xoom has no enable the 4g lte i can send it to motorola and they will be enable that or just verizon can?? To be upgrate need be active on verizon or no??
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Well it would have to be a Verizon Xoom, as those are the only Xooms that are connected to a cellular network in the US.
Any other Xoom in the US would be a WIFI only Xoom and not have the capability to utilize the Cellular signals.
Assuming the Xoom were already upgraded by Motorola with the 4G LTE radio then it would technically work with any VZW 4G sim card.
They have not quite yet launched the upgrade program for the general public.
The only issue is whether it would activate correctly as you are trying to activate a tablet device on a voice plan and not a broadband plan.
The main issue is 4G devices reactivate and register the MEID every time you power on a device.
It would technically be against VZW T&C's as well so that could result in an issue when they see a tablet activated on a voice plan.
But yes it does work... ;-)
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wesscoggin said:
Unlimited data on my xoom would be awesome...
I might even try to ditch the t-bolt if there were a way to make vzw calls on my xoom. I would of course have to keep the t-bolt line but I could ditch my data plan on my xoom.
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you can make calls using your xoom with grooveIP(search on market). it connects to your google number and makes calls over internet. so if you have unlim data, i dont see why you couldnt
EDIT: you can also receive calls too!
I have Motorola Xoom 4g (just sent it in for the upgrade) and a Thunderbolt (also 4g). I have an unlimited data plan with the phone number on my Thunderbolt.
Does anyone know if I can switch my unlimited data plan to the Xoom? Would I have to switch SIM or can I just call Verizon?
Nope you can't!
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Nope you can't!
Say it ain't so! Do you know why? and willing to explain it?
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Nope you can't!
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Are you sure (from experience?). I can pop my thunderbolt sim in my usb lte modem or mifi without any problems.
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Are you sure (from experience?). I can pop my thunderbolt sim in my usb lte modem or mifi without any problems.
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Really! Even though the modem is data only?
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Really! Even though the modem is data only?
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Yeah, not a problem. Even shows the new device in my online account. The LTE user guide specifically says that you can do this:
"You can move the 4G LTE SIM Card from one device to another and your wireless service will work seamlessly as long as you have a compatible device and service plan"
So far, my regular plan has been considered compatible for them...
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Yeah, not a problem. Even shows the new device in my online account. The LTE user guide specifically says that you can do this:
"You can move the 4G LTE SIM Card from one device to another and your wireless service will work seamlessly as long as you have a compatible device and service plan"
So far, my regular plan has been considered compatible for them...
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That would be AWESOME! I use my tablet for school and run to my 3GB limit every month. I could probably easily pull out 5GB if I used it how I wanted to. That unlimited plan is much needed.
Wait til they see you doing it! Then your hit with huge date charges for it. It may work but remember you got warned ahead of time.
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Wait til they see you doing it! Then your hit with huge date charges for it. It may work but remember you got warned ahead of time.
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Are you posting this from experience, or just something you think may happen? I've not heard from anyone that saw extra charges. As long as you don't go over you data bundle limit, you shouldn't see anything.
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Wait til they see you doing it! Then your hit with huge date charges for it. It may work but remember you got warned ahead of time.
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Thats the whole point of a Sim card is to be able to move it from device to device... Even their own documentation says that. But who knows with VZW. When I had T-mobile and At&t I used to swap Sims all the time.
All I'm saying is the sim is not just for data. They may not care. I would just be cautious because the xoom is a 3g/4g device. The 3g is not on an unlimited data. The sim should work no problem though. I wish they would offer an unlimited plan for the xoom.
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All I'm saying is the sim is not just for data. They may not care. I would just be cautious because the xoom is a 3g/4g device. The 3g is not on an unlimited data. The sim should work no problem though. I wish they would offer an unlimited plan for the xoom.
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OK, no offense here, but it really benefits everyone if you don't just make crap up. Your initial post simply said it would not work, and you had nothing to back it up with. Then you said they'd charge more, once again with nothing to back it up with. Unless you have experience in being billed for LTE data usage on a sim-swapped device, just ignore the question, or post "I'd like to know this too, because I don't actually know anything about it".
Thunderbolt sim moves to my UML290 to my Samsung LTE hotspot without a single problem, and as long as I don't bump past the 5GB, nothing in my plan entitles Verizon to any extra revenue from me. If I ever see any charges, I'll be sure to post about it.
Will 3g also work through the sim? This is without having any type of data plan on the XOOM.
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I was wrong it will work, but if you have a data plan on your xoom you risk the 3g switching on. If you have no data then your actually good, that is if you can get the xoom to activate with the sim. Turns out they added a second number to the xoom during the upgrade. And it links the sim, serial number, and imei together. Did I leave anything out this time?
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I was wrong it will work, but if you have a data plan on your xoom you risk the 3g switching on. If you have no data then your actually good, that is if you can get the xoom to activate with the sim. Turns out they added a second number to the xoom during the upgrade. And it links the sim, serial number, and imei together. Did I leave anything out this time?
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Uhhhh... Unlimited 4G includes unlimited 3G. If it didnt, people would be paying for a mostly useless data plan, as 4G coverage is very limited in most areas. And yes, I know this from experience.
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The 3G data chip doesn't use the SIM card though, it's activated separately through the phone. A Xoom without that 3G activation won't be able to use the 3G network even if you put an active 4G SIM card in it.
Also, there are people here saying the 4G SIM is more than just data on a phone. That is not true. Current Verizon devices use 3G for voice, and 4G for data.
Why do people not get that? I have unlimited on my TB too ya know! If I pull the sim I still have unlimited 3g, put the sim in my xoom I have 1gb 3g and unlimited 4g. Now unless mister know it all has figured out how to shut the cdma side of the xoom down, we can't do it without getting caught! Tell me you have plz! Yes my meds have made me moody! And yes I am arguing! But at the same time, I love a good argument. If I'm wrong I will admit it too!
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Actually if you pull the sim out of your Tbolt you cant do anything but make emergency calls
Damn!!! See I was wrong on that one.
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hammer4203,
Just to clarify some things to help your understanding...
I have the TB, Bionic, and Xoom.
When I first got the TB, I went from my Incredible to the TB by using the "activate phone" option on the Verizon My Account web site. It did ask for the SIM and IMEI of the TB, then I had to power the phone on and all was good. Verizon's web site saw my phone as the TB.
When I got the Bionic, activation was as easy as... power off both phones, take the SIM out of the TB, put it in the Bionic, and power the Bionic on. After that, VZW's web page automatically recognized my phone as the Bionic now (without my doing anything but moving the SIM). Switching back to the TB is just as easy... and I can switch between the 4G/LTE phones at will, just by powering off and moving the SIM.
The TB or the Bionic will NOT work for anything but emergency calls with the SIM removed. i.e. 1x, evdo, 3G, 4G do not work without SIM.
My Xoom just got back from its 4g update, and I haven't tried using the SIM from my 4G phones in the XOOM yet. But I'd be willing to guess that if the data plan is "compatible" between the phones and xoom, it will work just fine.
I bought my VZW Xoom day one without a data plan, and never got one, so I was expecting not to get a 4G SIM card when I got the 4G radio upgrade.
Am I just lucky or did everyone without a data plan get a 4G SIM with the 4G radio upgrade?
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No data plan and I got one, I'm pretty sure they are at least some will turn it on, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't tempted.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if VZW had MOTO put the SIM card in as a temptation.
My tbolt 4G SIM worked fine in my Xoom, so at least I know the new radio works.
Some people with Xoom data plans had a harder time getting their new SIM card to work, than I did using my tbolt SIM.
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Thanks for the reply. I was wondering if VZW had MOTO put the SIM card in as a temptation.
My tbolt 4G SIM worked fine in my Xoom, so at least I know the new radio works.
Some people with Xoom data plans had a harder time getting their new SIM card to work, than I did using my tbolt SIM.
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I seriously have to pose this question... So your TBOLT SIM card works in your 4G XOOM, correct?
So does that mean, that there may be a possible loop-hole around these lame XOOM data caps?
I don't own a 4G phone, but say someone happened to add a line to their plan with a extra TBOLT 4G (before the new limited data plans), then technically you could experience "unlimited" 4G data on your Motorola XOOM just by switching the SIM?
Someone is bound to catch onto this eventually... and then so will Verizon... but if it works now, then why not?
EDIT: Lmao, someone beat me to it (this was the first thread I read), then I saw this thread after my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288922
My bad.
All Xooms getting the 4G upgrade without the data plan will get a sim card so if you decide (wink wink, at least according to motorola and version) get the data they just need your SIM# do the activation.
My roommate's xoom doesn't have the data plan and he plans on using the wifi only for now so he didn't care about the radio breaking and wanted everything back how it was so there he goes for that.
Now, as for people having an hard time getting there sim card to work (those with data plans already), I didn't had any problems, I booted it up, after about 5 minutes of poking around and about to go into the bootloader to unlock it I get a message saying there's a sim card in there and asked if I wanted to activate it, and when I did I got my 4g data working with no problem.
Also, I don't see why you can't use your 4G phone's sim card in the xoom, they all act the same way in terms of activation and use. The whole point of the sim card is for you to easily change your phones without having to really go through yet another activation process and what not.
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I seriously have to pose this question... So your TBOLT SIM card works in your 4G XOOM, correct?
So does that mean, that there may be a possible loop-hole around these lame XOOM data caps?
I don't own a 4G phone, but say someone happened to add a line to their plan with a extra TBOLT 4G (before the new limited data plans), then technically you could experience "unlimited" 4G data on your Motorola XOOM just by switching the SIM?
Someone is bound to catch onto this eventually... and then so will Verizon... but if it works now, then why not?
EDIT: Lmao, someone beat me to it (this was the first thread I read), then I saw this thread after my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288922
My bad.
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You wouldn't be able to add a new line with a tbolt and have unlimited data because a new line would be subject to the tiered data. If you were to upgrade to a 4g phone on a line that had unlimited data already this works.
I have a tbolt on an unlimited plan and am using my sim in my xoom to stream netflix as I speak.
Gueeze, does Verizon even have a development team at all, or are they so cheap that they just let their consumers find all the exploits for them?
Maybe they laid them all off.
At any rate, once they are wise to this particular type of bandwidth "theft", is it a simple fix on their end, or do they have to further tighten policy, making their data plans even less attractive than they are now?
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Gueeze, does Verizon even have a development team at all, or are they so cheap that they just let their consumers find all the exploits for them?
Maybe they laid them all off.
At any rate, once they are wise to this particular type of bandwidth "theft", is it a simple fix on their end, or do they have to further tighten policy, making their data plans even less attractive than they are now?
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Actually according to Verizon this is acceptable use of our 4g sim cards.
http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/faqs/VZAccess/4g_sim_card.html?grp=1&faq=8
" Can I use my Verizon Wireless 4G SIM in more than one device?
Yes; the Verizon Wireless 4G SIM card contains all of your subscriber information, so the SIM card is portable and can be used in any Verizon Wireless-certified 4G device. All usage will be billed to the account associated with the 4G SIM card."
Great find.
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Dumb question but has anyone here been able to get their Wifi only xoom upgraded to 4g?
Theoretically its just the software, a sim and a modem card no?
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Dumb question but has anyone here been able to get their Wifi only xoom upgraded to 4g?
Theoretically its just the software, a sim and a modem card no?
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No, there are hardware and connections missing as well. Why not just get a a 4G MiFi--I have the Clear 4G Wimax--unlimited data and hotspot for up to 8 devices. Works great here in Boston (lots of 4G towers). There's also the Verizon 4G LTE and something from Xfinity.
i traded in my launch day 3g xoom for the wifi version when sprint picked it up. did want a verizon bill when im with sprint. so picked up the novatel mifi 4g hotspot. works just great as mentioned above.
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No, there are hardware and connections missing as well. Why not just get a a 4G MiFi--I have the Clear 4G Wimax--unlimited data and hotspot for up to 8 devices. Works great here in Boston (lots of 4G towers). There's also the Verizon 4G LTE and something from Xfinity.
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Dumb question but has anyone here been able to get their Wifi only xoom upgraded to 4g?
Theoretically its just the software, a sim and a modem card no?
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i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
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i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
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so what did you have to do,,,, I dont yet have an lte/sim card for the unactivated Droid Charge I have, I think that this the hold up for following through with an activation,,, but I have been too happy with my pageplus ics fascinate
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i use the Motorola bionic 4g lte with pageplus and have the new plan as of today with 2gb, and you can use can use 4g phones it takes a little work, but only get 3g and thats ok
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was it a 4g with clean esn?
My Fassy is on pageplus standard plan and working well...
I have been pushing people towards prepaid for like 2 years now. Page Plus is great.
We currently have an Incredible, an Incredible 2, and a Fascinate on Page Plus all running ICS ROMs. Also, we have a Proclaim on StraightTalk. Hoping for Root on the Proclaim soon
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I have been pushing people towards prepaid for like 2 years now. Page Plus is great.
We currently have an Incredible, an Incredible 2, and a Fascinate on Page Plus all running ICS ROMs. Also, we have a Proclaim on StraightTalk. Hoping for Root on the Proclaim soon
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I ended up here because I was looking at the $80 Verizon Prepaid Wireless smartphone plan but they only let you use that one Illusion phone.
Looking at the specs on those phones you have... So basically all three get 3g and voice off Verizon right? Of course under StraightTalk or Page Plus service brand.
Do you happen to know if I could bring in a Verizon capable newer higher end phone such as a GS3 and put them on your two carriers? I don't care if I lose 4g.
Any help is appreciated.
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