Stock GB update did not turn S=ON - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Previously, when I flashed the Stock GB update by putting the PD15IMG.zip on the root of the SD card etc. the phone would return to Stock GB with S=ON
I later downgraded to re-root and turn S=OFF, but I am now giving my phone to another user and wanted to restore to stock. Since it is so easy to run the GB update and have it automatically turn S=ON, I figured I'd do it that way.
However, for some reason, when I ran the update from PD15IMG.zip it did not turn S back on.
So now I'm stuck with an unrooted, stock GB phone and S=OFF.
I can of course go through the whole downgrade again, and reverse gfree (yes I kept the file to revert back) and then re-update to Stock GB, but I am wondering why in the world it did not just turn S=ON like it did before?

Did it remove the eng bootloader?

$pitacular1 said:
...but I am wondering why in the world it did not just turn S=ON like it did before?
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because when you ./gfree completely removes the security flags. Where as the root.sh just turns them off. By reverting the ./gfree method you are replacing them.

DistrictDigital said:
Did it remove the eng bootloader?
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Should've, since the update reflashes everything.
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neidlinger said:
because when you ./gfree completely removes the security flags. Where as the root.sh just turns them off. By reverting the ./gfree method you are replacing them.
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Then why did it work twice on two different phones? I always use gfree to get S=OFF when I permaroot, and twice previously restored the phones to stock & S=ON by flashing the "official" GB update.
Used the same file, same techniques.. different results.
I'm actually wondering if someone isn't playing around with their ROMs.. or apps.. and rewriting system files for questionable reasons.
I'm fairly consistent with what I do on my phone(s), and I did notice some interesting things after rooting, turning S=OFF and trying two different GB ROMs on my latest MT4G
I think I'm going to piece apart these two ROMs and look for anything that shouldn't be there. Which means, I'm going to be busy figuring all of that out. But I've been meaning to get into Android at a deeper level anyway, so I guess here we go!

DistrictDigital said:
Did it remove the eng bootloader?
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yes it did....

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How to COMPLETELY unroot EVO to send back to Sprint

How do I COMPLETELY unroot EVO to send back to Sprint
Like s-off s-on plz help
If you rooted using Unrevoked 3.21 there is a thread listed in Android Development explaining the process as well as the needed links to download the needed zip files to turn S-On and the zip file to restore back to Stock Froyo 2.2
SouthernEvo said:
If you rooted using Unrevoked 3.21 there is a thread listed in Android Development explaining the process as well as the needed links to download the needed zip files to turn S-On and the zip file to restore back to Stock Froyo 2.2
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Tbd but I used toast.method to root that used a lot of adb
mccurt29 said:
Tbd but I used toast.method to root that used a lot of adb
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Ok but there are still methods in the forum for unrooting just like how you rooted. I would just do a search for them and choose which one you feel is the easiest for you to understand. Also if you are getting another EVO unrevoked 3.21 is as many in here have said easy peasy for rooting.
Good luck
playya said:
Ok but there are still methods in the forum for unrooting just like how you rooted. I would just do a search for them and choose which one you feel is the easiest for you to understand. Also if you are getting another EVO unrevoked 3.21 is as many in here have said easy peasy for rooting.
Good luck
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Thanks!......
You need to run the RUU.exe found in the Dev section. It will do the trick.
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novanosis85 said:
You need to run the RUU.exe found in the Dev section. It will do the trick.
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Precisely. It can be found here:
*OFFICIAL* RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15. 00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_rel.
One thing to check first: do you have S-OFF? This would be the case if you ever ran Unrevoked Forever or Unrevoked 3.21. If so, you'll need to flash the Unrevoked Forever S-ON tool from recovery before running the RUU.
Noxious Ninja said:
Precisely. It can be found here:
*OFFICIAL* RUU_SuperSonic_S_Sprint_WWE_3.29.651.5_Radio_2.15. 00.09.01_NV_1.77_CNV_rel.
One thing to check first: do you have S-OFF? This would be the case if you ever ran Unrevoked Forever or Unrevoked 3.21. If so, you'll need to flash the Unrevoked Forever S-ON tool from recovery before running the RUU.
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Thx guys I never used unrevok just toast methods but how do u check the A-on thing & should it be on or off
Also this 1 guy on this forum said he used the ruu & had s-on/off but Sprint still found out he rooted so should I wipe that ex--- >#366# stuff too?
mccurt29 said:
Thx guys I never used unrevok just toast methods but how do u check the A-on thing & should it be on or off
Also this 1 guy on this forum said he used the ruu & had s-on/off but Sprint still found out he rooted so should I wipe that ex--- >#366# stuff too?
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Reboot into the bootloader (turn phone off, then hold power+volume down until it comes on). Then look at the end of the first line.
If it says SHIP S-ON, you're good.
If it says SHIP S-OFF, you need to run the Unrevoked tool.
If it says ENG S-OFF (which should be the case if you used Toast's method), it is indeterminate.
However, if you never used Unrevoked at all, you shouldn't have to worry about it. You can check after you run the RUU, which will reset it to the SHIP bootloader.
I believe the 3.29 RUU resets everything, including the PRI. Toast's method downgraded the PRI, and it was difficult to get it back before the current update, so this used to be a sure-fire way of telling whether you had rooted. Unless you had a bad Wimax flash and broke your 4G, I *think* you should be OK. But I don't know for sure.
Noxious Ninja said:
Reboot into the bootloader (turn phone off, then hold power+volume down until it comes on). Then look at the end of the first line.
If it says SHIP S-ON, you're good.
If it says SHIP S-OFF, you need to run the Unrevoked tool.
If it says ENG S-OFF (which should be the case if you used Toast's method), it is indeterminate.
However, if you never used Unrevoked at all, you shouldn't have to worry about it. You can check after you run the RUU, which will reset it to the SHIP bootloader.
I believe the 3.29 RUU resets everything, including the PRI. Toast's method downgraded the PRI, and it was difficult to get it back before the current update, so this used to be a sure-fire way of telling whether you had rooted. Unless you had a bad Wimax flash and broke your 4G, I *think* you should be OK. But I don't know for sure.
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thanx that did the trick now to the sprint store tomorrow wish me luck
If your still having trouble then try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141&highlight=unroot
I just unrooted mine last night and it only took me 5 mins, just flash the unrevoked and then do the update on the PC36IMG and thats it.

Perma-rooted G2 a while back, do I need to Root it with Gfree??

Ok I got my G2 when it first came out. Used the old rage method to get S-OFF and perma root. Now i'm reading people say that they have "real" S-OFF and real permaroot. Do I have to do the "gfree" method now or is my phone good as it is?
I understand that with gfree you can unlock your SIM and you can switch between S-OFF and S-ON.. I'd like to have those functions. How should I go about it? Do I do a factory reset to go back to stock and unroot and then use gfree method or is there a simpler way to do it?
Here's what I have right now:
Stock rom, I NEVER installed any OTA's.
I have Baconbits.
My baseband is: 12.22.60.09bU_26.02.01.15_M2
Kernel: 2.6.32.21-cyanogenmod [email protected]#1
Build #: 1.19.531.1 CL255798 release-keys
Thanks for all the help.
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
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Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
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PatrickHuey said:
I'm in the same boat as the OP. How do i go about just running gfree?
sent from my V I S I O N.
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See the Wiki for details. Assuming you are running a kernel where gfree works (again, see the Wiki on this), you just need a root shell on your phone, copy gfree to your phone (e.g. via adb push), then run gfree with the appropriate options, e.g. "./gfree -f".
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elracing21 said:
Well I'm rooted with the old method as well but because I I cant flash cwm 3.x with the gree method. You need the eng hboot so ill stick with the old method until clockwork makes it work with the gfree method.
Sent from my gSpot2
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Using gfree does not get rid of the engineering hboot (or modify your existing hboot in anyway), so it's safe to do. And even if this was not the case, you can still flash the CWM3 recovery without the engineering hboot, only you'll have to use a different method than fastboot.
dhkr234 said:
Since you have root and a stock rom installed, just run gfree -- that is ALL you need to do. The advantage, aside from unlocking the radio, is that with the proper s-off, there is some new security for the radio... for unbricking and for being able to withstand accidental OTA updates. A true radio s-off can take an OTA update containing BOTH an SPL and a Radio, and yet s-off remains.
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thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
thank you
konoplya said:
thanks for responding. so this will work even though i dont have a stock kernel?
also, as far as OTA's go, you mean that if after i run gfree i will be able to apply the OTA without it unrooting my phone?
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Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
steviewevie said:
Not sure about Baconbits, check the Wiki for the list of kernels that are known not to work with gfree.
If you apply the OTA after unlocking with gfree, you will still lose root but you won't lose the S-OFF and other stuff from gfree.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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Not just gfree on its own, but you will need to go through the steps of getting temp root then perm root, which does use gfree as part of it. It's all in the Wiki.
konoplya said:
ok, i see. so if i loose root would i just have to run gfree again after I install OTA to gain root back?
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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gfree does NOT root your phone. It UNLOCKS RADIO SECURITY -- permanently. You only run it ONCE, you NEVER have to run it again... EVER.
With UNLOCKED RADIO SECURITY, gaining root is TRIVIAL.
What gets root is RAGE or PSNEUTER.
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Yeah but gfree is often used as part of the rooting process, so I can see why people associate gfree with rooting.
gfree might be run more than once on a phone as part of the process to lock in root, i.e. to defeat the NAND write protection. Even though it's only needed once to unlock the radio etc, you might run it other times if you need to root a stock ROM and updates to that ROM.
gfree can be used to unlock radio security, but it has other options too. Sorry but I think your reply might confuse more people than it helps.
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Help me please! I tried to find my answer, but i'm not sure.
Can be possible use the update.zip without any modification? Or i need change the hboot?
Thank you!
Janaboy
I'm perm rooted! but I lost the ota update cause I was simi-brick how can I get the OTA update? do I have to to a factory reset?
You should get the OTA right away after restarting the phone, I know I did after going back to stock on just Saturday of this week. The first time I connected to the network it said an update was available and it was the OTA.
that hasnt happen and it need to hurry up!! lol
So do a Factory reset?
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
aok680 said:
hiya guys, im kinda in the same boat. Just got the g2 with build 1.22.531.8 and perma rooted it with visionary/rage method. I want to get supercid, sim unlock with gfree. can someone post or direct me to instructions on how to do so? thanks for helping a noob.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unlock_the_Phone.2C_Set_SuperCID.2C_and_Turn_Radio_S-OFF

S-ON and S-OFF

Today I accidently turned it on (the thing in the bootloader) and now I can't turn it off no matter what so I can do a revert to stock .img, I used the PDI15.img or w.e that would revert back to stock forgetting that I had the newest radio and now I can't revert to stock or turn S-OFF. Please help
Current Configurations:
GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT - 0.86.0000
MICORP - 0429
RADIO - 26.09.04.26_M
eMMC - BOOT
More Info:
When I use a PDIMG or w/e file it errors out as being old
Can you still boot? Like into your rom? If so just try rooting using visionary and using a root explorer to push the gfree files to data/local/ then just follow the normal rooting procedure
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Nicgraner said:
Can you still boot? Like into your rom? If so just try rooting using visionary and using a root explorer to push the gfree files to data/local/ then just follow the normal rooting procedure
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Yeah I can still boot into my rom, bootloader, and recovery and okay will try that
EDIT: Okay I did, I tried turning S-OFF but it says something about eMMC power cycle failed
XxKOLOHExX said:
Yeah I can still boot into my rom, bootloader, and recovery and okay will try that
EDIT: Okay I did, I tried turning S-OFF but it says something about eMMC power cycle failed
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dude! I noticed this also this morning. I am rooted(using setcpu and root explorer just fine) but in hboot it says s=on. I was also wanting to flash the stock .img and start fresh. thought I was the only one having this problem. tried everything you did and got the same results.
What ROM are you on? AFAIK, gfree, requires the stock kernel to do what it does. How on earth did you turn S-ON? That sort of thing shouldn't just happen out of nowhere.
How is the progress on fixing your phone?
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What ROM are you on? AFAIK, gfree, requires the stock kernel to do what it does. How on earth did you turn S-ON? That sort of thing shouldn't just happen out of nowhere.
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currently on Evil D mTGB v1.0, Faux 0.0.7 CFS lv leak kernel. everything works fine, no FC's or anything. just having the same issues as XxKOLOHExX. I really have no idea how it turned on by itself, I dont remember doing anything out of the ordinary
I was trying to get back to stock from the rom i was on. (MIUI) and when I used the stock .img though the bootloader it went all good till it rebooted, then it said failed because the file was old and now I am stuck with s-on and I don't know how to turn it off
How did you get to the stock bootloader? Did you have eng bootloader at one point? What meth of root did you use? Alot of info missing.
Now download the stock radio.img and push it via adb or just download the PD15IMG.zip (radio only not rom included). Once this is done you can revert back to stock rom/radio using standard PD15IMG.zip (radio+rom). Now depending on the type of root you used it would depend if you still have radio flag on/off even if your reverted back to stock bootloader.
PS: You can get PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) from master radio thread and PD15IMG.zip (stock radio/rom) by doing search.
PermROOT said:
How did you get to the stock bootloader? Did you have eng bootloader at one point? What meth of root did you use? Alot of info missing.
Now download the stock radio.img and push it via adb or just download the PD15IMG.zip (radio only not rom included). Once this is done you can revert back to stock rom/radio using standard PD15IMG.zip (radio+rom). Now depending on the type of root you used it would depend if you still have radio flag on/off even if your reverted back to stock bootloader.
PS: You can get PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) from master radio thread and PD15IMG.zip (stock radio/rom) by doing search.
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It flashed the bootloader when I flashed the PD15IMG.zip, it just stop when I did the whole procedure. Nope never flashed an Engineer Bootloader. I used theunlockr.com sites method
I tried that, it uziped then tried to flash the radio then just went back to the original menu for the bootloader
If you used the VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT) meth then you already had engineering hboot (0.85.2007) pushed though terminal on "/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Now you did something in between is what I would like to know.
As you flashed new radio (26.09.04.26_M) which I am clear. But what I like to know is how did you end up with default hboot (0.86.0000)? If you had S=OFF you didn't lose it via flashing new radio. Which PD15IMG.zip did you install? Now when you say PD15IMG.zip what do you mean? It can be anything as its default mt4g system based image. Stock PD15IMG.zip = (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M). Did you install leaked PD15IMG.zip from Panache? or GB2.3.3S?
Are you not 1 of the Royal dev's? who try to take over Silence's IG if I recall. I am just assuming here but this is why you do "NOT" dump system image via hboot. What you should have done was do complete total system wipe (format /data; /system) and then flash new edify based CWMR flashable rom.
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If you used the VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT) meth then you already had engineering hboot (0.85.2007) pushed though terminal on "/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Now you did something in between is what I would like to know.
As you flashed new radio (26.09.04.26_M) which I am clear. But what I like to know is how did you end up with default hboot (0.86.0000)? If you had S=OFF you didn't lose it via flashing new radio. Which PD15IMG.zip did you install? Now when you say PD15IMG.zip what do you mean? It can be anything as its default mt4g system based image. Stock PD15IMG.zip = (Sense 2.2.1 Rom/Radio 26.03.02.26_M). Did you install leaked PD15IMG.zip from Panache? or GB2.3.3S?
Are you not 1 of the Royal dev's? who try to take over Silence's IG if I recall. I am just assuming here but this is why you do "NOT" dump system image via hboot. What you should have done was do complete total system wipe (format /data; /system) and then flash new edify based CWMR flashable rom.
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Yeah I know that, I Was trying to go back to stock everything using the unrooting method(PD15IMG.zip). Using this file I was able to get through the first step and it rebooted, then it went back to bootloader and now it won't take the PD15IMG.zip saying that it is an older file. Yes I am one of the devs, That's why before posting I tried everything I could think of, gfree, old unrooting methods, etc. I didn't use a dump lol I'm not that noobish haha
Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.
PermROOT said:
Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.
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Thank you so much for the help
PermROOT said:
Thats where you got owned as the PD15IMG.zip (stock rom/radio) just reverted back to hboot (0.86.0000) from eng hboot (0.85.2007). While you attempted to go further you couldn't do to security turning on (S=ON). Now this normally wouldn't be problem but since you had newer radio (26.09.04.26_M) it wouldn't replace it with old.
All you had to do was follow few simple meths which you should have learned it over the years. Go back same way you came by first reverting back to original radio image and then after doing complete system wipe you should have reverted back to original factory based via stock pd15img.
Ill post back with solution soon let me think this out. I don't want to brick your phone trying to manually push the radio.img nor the eng_hboot.img. As if you try to push radio now would fail on write and give you hard brick. Since S=ON and if you try to push eng_hboot.img who knows what will happen as no R/W access on mmcblk could could also fail thus giving bad flash which can also brick the device. Ill see what happens and post back at... you folks just made more extra work for me.
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lol sorry for the extra work, just dont wanna have the chance of bricking my phone but like XxKOLOHExX I wanted to revert back to stock from mTGB using the stock PD15IMG_Glacier_TMOUS_1.17.531.2_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155771_signed. everything he described is happening to me also, step by step. I rooted with the visionary+ and permroot method(unlockr). I did download and flash the 26.08.04.30 radio. heres what I see in hboot
GLACIER PVT SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.86.0000
MICROP-0429
RADIO-26.08.04.30_M3
eMMC-boot
Sep 27 2010, 11:12:59
so what youre saying is that we should try flashing the stock radio first, wipe the whole phone(including sdcard?), then flash the stock PD15IMG? Ill give it a shot real quick, thanks
*edit* hboot wont even let me flash the stock radio, itll say checking but wont actually let me update it
Well clarknick27 the problem here is that root.sh to gain PermROOT via VISIONary+ just push the 0.85.2007 eng hboot and giving temporary S=OFF, the true security flag as we know it is controlled in the radio. So when you try to revert back using stock PD15IMG (rom/radio) it reverted back to the stock 0.86.0000 hboot thus turning on the security flag on.
What you all should have done is reverted back same way you installed it. Which would have been first use PD15IMG.zip (stock radio) and then use stock PD15IMG.zip (radio/rom). I still need some sleep lol I just wokeup after sleeping 2hours.
The MT4G I tested on I rooted it via VISIONary+ and then flashed GB Leak rom not the PD15IMG.zip (leak radio/rom) which contained the 0.89.0005 hboot. So after flashing stock radio PD15IMG.zip (radio 26.03.02.26_M) I was able to flash stock PD15IMG.zip (rom/radio) without problem. Which is same as I suspected even after S=ON due to same version radio no problem. If I had newer radio after that point it would be locked out. Let me go to sleep and wakeup and ill see what happens from there. As I have clean MT4G ill have to reroot it first.
BTW XxKOLOHExX and clarknick27 just in case my account gets disabled. Do the following and report it here and ill see from there.
1) Which working rom you currently have installed on the device?
I know trying to reroot using gfree may give you similar result as my test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066966 < not important but unable to root on newer rom.
2) What happens when you try to reroot it using VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT)?
Did you try it? If so what is the end result? so post back. Ill check and go from there.
PermROOT said:
BTW XxKOLOHExX and clarknick27 just in case my account gets disabled. Do the following and report it here and ill see from there.
1) Which working rom you currently have installed on the device?
I know trying to reroot using gfree may give you similar result as my test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1066966 < not important but unable to root on newer rom.
2) What happens when you try to reroot it using VISIONary+ (TempROOT) and root.sh (PermROOT)?
Did you try it? If so what is the end result? so post back. Ill check and go from there.
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1) currently running Evil D's mTGB v1.0 rom with Faux's 0.0.7 CFS LV leak kernel. tried rooting with visionary and terminal first, no success. I then tried out the gfree method, and got "Attempting to power cycle eMMC...failed. Module failed to load: No such file or directory."
2) I installed Visionary using Astro file manager, then run Visionary. I click on "temproot now" and it starts, but then the screen goes black and doesnt do anything. I have let it sit on the black screen for well over 15mins before with no luck. I can click on "attempt to permroot" and it will ask for permissions and reboot and everything. my s=on but I still have root access and 0.86.000 bootloader. this is what I see using terminal before rebooting to see if s=off
Did you do the Radio S=OFF using gfree? If so that would explain why you still have root as security is disabled on the device totally. If thats the case then just push the eng bootloader manually via adb or though terminal and reboot. For now XxKOLOHExX is locked lets see what I find ill post back for him.
PermROOT said:
Did you do the Radio S=OFF using gfree? If so that would explain why you still have root as security is disabled on the device totally. If thats the case then just push the eng bootloader manually via adb or though terminal and reboot. For now XxKOLOHExX is locked lets see what I find ill post back for him.
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thanks for taking the time to help out, Ill give it a shot
*edit* just tried pushing the eng bootloader through adb and it didnt stick or flash, rebooted into hboot and it still says 0.86.0000, s=on, 26.08.04.30_M3 radio

S-off stuck?

followed some of the guildlines on here about unrooting phone , however it seems no matter what i do S-off will not become S-on, tried the guide to unrooting the automated way, also the Flashing the stock rom way, and the 2.3.4 GB update still stuck with S-off any help would be appreciated
Read saranhai's instructions in this recent thread. Pretty straight-forward and bulletproof.
TeeJay3800 said:
Read saranhai's instructions in this recent thread. Pretty straight-forward and bulletproof.
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haha thanks TeeJay3800
yea, like i said in the other thread, just follow those instructions and you should be able to get s-on again.
If you have Radio S-OFF, then flashing a stock ROM from RUU or PD15IMG.zip will *not* give you S-ON again. There is already a whole thread about how to get back to S-ON.
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If you have Radio S-OFF, then flashing a stock ROM from RUU or PD15IMG.zip will *not* give you S-ON again. There is already a whole thread about how to get back to S-ON.
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Actually it depends on how you turned s-off. IF you use the root.sh version flashing the PD15IMG will turn "s" back on. If you use ./gfree, flashing the PD15IMG will not turn the "s" back on.
I know, I've done it both ways.
neidlinger said:
Actually it depends on how you turned s-off. IF you use the root.sh version flashing the PD15IMG will turn "s" back on. If you use ./gfree, flashing the PD15IMG will not turn the "s" back on.
I know, I've done it both ways.
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Thank you for the clarification. My understanding is that root.sh does not confer Radio S-OFF but rather fakes it via the ENG HBOOT. Is this a correct assessment?
Ergo if you have true Radio S-OFF (via gfree), then PD15IMG will maintain that S-OFF.
My understanding was that most devs are recommending gfree over root.sh to make things easier to users down the line and reduce the chances of perm-brick. It just means a bit more manual labour.
cmstlist said:
Thank you for the clarification. My understanding is that root.sh does not confer Radio S-OFF but rather fakes it via the ENG HBOOT. Is this a correct assessment?
Ergo if you have true Radio S-OFF (via gfree), then PD15IMG will maintain that S-OFF.
My understanding was that most devs are recommending gfree over root.sh to make things easier to users down the line and reduce the chances of perm-brick. It just means a bit more manual labour.
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Basically yes. The root.sh is a faux s-off. It works like s-off but not really turning it off. The ./gfree IIRC removes the flags completely. So said person down the road will not have problems.
However with us having two different eMMC chips. The root.sh will turn off the flags for the good eMMC chips, and will not do anything if you have a bad eMMC chip set. While the ./gfree completely removes them. So if you have a good chip or a problematic chip ./gfree will root both.
Now with that being said it's extremely easy for a bad eMMC chipped phone to become bricked. That is why we are seeing so many "Failed-PU" threads popping up. The Partition Update isn't being handled correctly via the eMMC chip, and bricking the device.
all in all use root.sh to root your phone, if that doesn't work use ./gfree with EXTREME caution.
I got a bad eMMC on my Mobilicity Panache, but I decided to take the gamble anyway. So I cautiously went with gfree. Apparently 80% of the "bad" chips will never fail, so... Rolling the dice here.
Anyway to the OP, there's your answer: it depends on how you rooted it.
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I got a bad eMMC on my Mobilicity Panache, but I decided to take the gamble anyway. So I cautiously went with gfree. Apparently 80% of the "bad" chips will never fail, so... Rolling the dice here.
Anyway to the OP, there's your answer: it depends on how you rooted it.
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Hmm guess my old phone was one of the unlucky 20%...
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[Q] gfree on cm7.

I have my phone rooted,with root.sh. An I was thinking since I don't have full s-off,can I run gfree on cm7.1. Or will I need to go back to a 2.2.1 stock rom(rooted) an run gfree. Figured I'd ask before I do something stupid.
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Any one got any ideas
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
Nandroid backup.
RUU back to old 2.2.1 and follow gfree guide for Radio S-OFF, SIM unlock, root, Clockwork etc.
Nandroid restore.
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Nandroid backup.
RUU back to old 2.2.1 and follow gfree guide for Radio S-OFF, SIM unlock, root, Clockwork etc.
Nandroid restore.
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So I would have to re-root then, thought so, thanks
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
Mr.Highway said:
So I would have to re-root then, thought so, thanks
From my fist to your face, enjoy.
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Right, well even if you flash to a pre-rooted version of original 2.2.1, you still need to also change the bootloader (and possibly radio? I don't know) to the matching version as well. And if you only had root.sh S-OFF until now, then installing these things will screw up what you already had.
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Right, well even if you flash to a pre-rooted version of original 2.2.1, you still need to also change the bootloader (and possibly radio? I don't know) to the matching version as well. And if you only had root.sh S-OFF until now, then installing these things will screw up what you already had.
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only reason why i rooted with that method is cause i didnt have access to a computer. i might just return my phone back to completely stock (fireware,radio...). then re root it with gfree an restore my cm7.1. thats gonna have to wait till after work today though

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