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[Q] App for booting from one andoid to another.

Is there any app which will help me to boot from one android to another without going to windows?
I have MCCM and Froyo. I want to know if i can boot to Froyo from MCCM without going to windows.
Thanks for your time.

Nope, not at the moment. Since android runs off the SDCard and windows resides on the flashable NAND memory windows always loads before it's shut off by Haret. When the DFT team releases the Magldr, then you might be able to do what you're asking for. Hope that answers your question.
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xhanay said:
Nope, not at the moment. Since android runs off the SDCard and windows resides on the flashable NAND memory windows always loads before it's shut off by Haret. When the DFT team releases the Magldr, then you might be able to do what you're asking for. Hope that answers your question.
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Thank you my friend.

Hi guys
I have the MDJ FroYo HD v.4.4 build on my HD2, a friend recommended i tried MiUi so i put it on to my sd card booted it up then went back to MDJ's build and received an error when i turn on WiFi and excessive battery drain, far more than normal! since deleting MiUi folder from sd card battery seems to have got better but still error on WiFi. is it even possible to have two types of android on your sd card? Or am i just unlucky?
Anyone else having this problem?
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tidygrant said:
Hi guys
I have the MDJ FroYo HD v.4.4 build on my HD2, a friend recommended i tried MiUi so i put it on to my sd card booted it up then went back to MDJ's build and received an error when i turn on WiFi and excessive battery drain, far more than normal! since deleting MiUi folder from sd card battery seems to have got better but still error on WiFi. is it even possible to have two types of android on your sd card? Or am i just unlucky?
Anyone else having this problem?
Thanks for your time
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I have 3 different android builds on my SD card without any problems, so I'm not sure what's wrong with yours.
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tidygrant said:
Hi guys
I have the MDJ FroYo HD v.4.4 build on my HD2, a friend recommended i tried MiUi so i put it on to my sd card booted it up then went back to MDJ's build and received an error when i turn on WiFi and excessive battery drain, far more than normal! since deleting MiUi folder from sd card battery seems to have got better but still error on WiFi. is it even possible to have two types of android on your sd card? Or am i just unlucky?
Anyone else having this problem?
Thanks for your time
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zarathustrax said:
I have 3 different android builds on my SD card without any problems, so I'm not sure what's wrong with yours.
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MIUI builds create another Android folder beside it's original file, that may have conflicted with your MDJ's

kawazaki said:
MIUI builds create another Android folder beside it's original file, that may have conflicted with your MDJ's
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Almost all android builds create other files on SD card. Normally they shouldn't conflict with each other but its possible your miui overwrote or corrupted something in your dhd build. Also possible for there to be little bits of programming still lingering around.
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Cheers guys. Appreciate the help

Nand and internal storage space

I love the new Nand builds of Android,I have finally settled on MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.0_NAND version which I am very happy with at the moment.My only problem I have,like many others,is storage space for apps.I think there is only about 48/50mb fre after a clean install.I think I was spoilt after coming from SD install where we had massive storage,I realise I dont need GB's of storage but i do need more as I have installed a few apps and I am down to about 4mb left.I am using app2sd as well.
Is there anyway I can create storage space on my European version?
Thanks

You should install apps2sd and install your apps to your sd card

you get it wrong tigermaster... WITH app2sd and moving apps to sd we got this prob
app2sd is still leaving data in your ram when you move something. and this little data is enough for being a prob when you dont have enough memory

I had the exact same problem. The only real soultion is to install a build that doesn't have Sense, like a Nexus build.
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johncmolyneux said:
I had the exact same problem. The only real soultion is to install a build that doesn't have Sense, like a Nexus build.
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ahhh is that the issue? I was going to say MDJ Gingerbread on mine and I currently have 807mb internal storage w/a healthy app list but no HTC Sense.

Gingerbread
i install nand ginger i have 745 mb left after install and few apps

You guys won't have the problem with TMOUS versions, so it doesn't apply.
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I think a NAND kitchen (is there such a thing?) would help a lot, and of course, barebone android would also help. Can anyone verify if this is possible? And what's the smallest android ROM out there?? I think it would help a lot of chefs could list how much free space is left.

+1 I am also looking for a bare bones Android ROM I can work from, hopefully a few fully working gingerNANDs will be around soon.

[Q] difference betwwen NAND and SD card android development.

hey...
iam using t-mobile HD2 :
ROM version-2.13.531.1
radio-2.10.50.26
protocol ver-15.39.50.07U
and i want to install android on my phone. i have been reading quite a few threads everyday but the more i read i guess the more confuse i get.
some say that u should use HSPL.. some are against it... some say that we should flash android from SD card , some are again against it..
WHAT I NEED:-
1)i want to put android in my phone. preferably 2.2 froyo as i think that 2.3 mite be heavy for HD2.
2) i dont want dual OS. that is i just want android on my phone and not android and windows 2gethr.
please guide me. which steps should i follow...??

Follow this guide step by step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380, you'll have android running on ur hd2 in no time.

azer0 said:
Follow this guide step by step http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11097380, you'll have android running on ur hd2 in no time.
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hey...
thanks for the link. i had a querry...
what is the difference between running android through SD card or through NAND.??
and which one is better.>??

can anyone tell me the difference between NAND and SD..??
iam currently running android from SD...

mundae said:
can anyone tell me the difference between NAND and SD..??
iam currently running android from SD...
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NAND means is short for NAND. memory/ NAND chip. This is what is called the flash memory of the HD2. It is also where the Windows Mobile OS is. So if you flash a NAND Android ROM you will wipe Windows Mobile, also your HD2 will boot into Android when you turn your HD2 on. You have to have MAGLDR or cLK to do this though.

Installing to NAND is faster and more stable, since the SD card might not have the read/write speeds to supply the OS. What is more, running Android from SD is booting up WinMO first and Android second, which is obviously slower.
I have a DesireHD ROM on my HD2, I have tried gingerbread builds too but without Sense it sucks imo. Hardware is more than enough, SetCPU just rocks (overclocking).
There is a nice and comprehensive guide on how to install the stuff, first HardSPL, then flash a new radio, then install MAGLDR, then flash an Android build (preferably rooted, I have had problems with rooting since z4root does not work).

T-Macgnolia said:
NAND means is short for NAND. memory/ NAND chip. This is what is called the flash memory of the HD2. It is also where the Windows Mobile OS is. So if you flash a NAND Android ROM you will wipe Windows Mobile, also your HD2 will boot into Android when you turn your HD2 on. You have to have MAGLDR or cLK to do this though.
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hey..
thanks.. iam currently using 2.3 from SD..
so if i follow the NAND method it will wash out windows completly...??
that is i'l only have one OS in my phone and that would be android.. right.??
are NAND methods successful..??
if yes then can u please link me to the BEST guide available to follow the NAND method because android from SD is unstable.. crashes a lott...
thanks again for the info.

mundae said:
hey..
thanks.. iam currently using 2.3 from SD..
so if i follow the NAND method it will wash out windows completly...??
that is i'l only have one OS in my phone and that would be android.. right.??
are NAND methods successful..??
if yes then can u please link me to the BEST guide available to follow the NAND method because android from SD is unstable.. crashes a lott...
thanks again for the info.
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-Yes. It will wipe your Winmo completely
-Yes. If you flash NANDROID, then you will only have Android.
-Some NANDROID ROM works, some dont. It really depends on your handset conditions and the rom itself. You might experience that you cant flash certain Nandroid Rom while others can, vice versa. But dont worry, there are many roms you can try out and see it if it is suitable for your needs
-Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905841
BTW, I use SD ANdroid American Android (AOSP), and it works perfect to me
Good luck

silverwind said:
-/showthread.php?t=905841[/url]
BTW, I use SD ANdroid American Android (AOSP), and it works perfect to me
Good luck
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hey..
thanks for the link... actually iam also using SD American Android at the moment...
it is working fine but it does crash now and then.. i usually have to shift applications to phone to make them work properly.. or else it crashes a lott...
so 1 final question...
do you advice to put NANDROID...?? i mean if American Android is working fine then should i go for nandroid or not..??
will it increase the performance and will the freezes decrease..??

im glad i switched to nandroid. it is a lot faster, stable and no freezes.

[Q] Possible to self-port the HD2 Android SD Builds for NAND?

I love the wonderfulness (as in the roms meant for the SD are way better than those for NAND, as I've observed) of the SD builds. But I want them in my phone as NAND, not on SD. SD versions always freezes on my phone, and are very slow compared to those on NAND. So... Is there any way for me to port them to NAND? I do have a little bit of experience cooking my own ROMS... And tweaking them to my liking...

Don't know if its possible, but I was having a few lags in my SD builds and I found that my problem was the SD card.. the performance of the SD should be the same as in nand, the only difference is that you should have a better battery life in nand.. you can test your SD card with a program called crystalmark , you need a card with good random read and write..
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yugoport said:
Don't know if its possible, but I was having a few lags in my SD builds and I found that my problem was the SD card.. the performance of the SD should be the same as in nand, the only difference is that you should have a better battery life in nand.. you can test your SD card with a program called crystalmark , you need a card with good random read and write..
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Hmm... Problem is... I kinda don't have the luxury of buying a faster SD card... Need all the money I can to fund my videography/photography hobby... But I do have the time to port the ROMs to NAND if I have the method...

Try packing the rom files into a CWM file instead of current file format, install it, flash a NAND kernel, like TyTungs then see what happens
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dlsniper said:
Try packing the rom files into a CWM file instead of current file format, install it, flash a NAND kernel, like TyTungs then see what happens
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Hmm.. Will try it the next few days. Currently using CyanogenMod 7 Stable from ROM Manager...

dlsniper said:
Try packing the rom files into a CWM file instead of current file format, install it, flash a NAND kernel, like TyTungs then see what happens
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bad advice, this will never work

Brings a tear to my eye...

greg17477 said:
bad advice, this will never work
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I think this was a joke? That's how I took it. That did sound like good advice to me

maff1989 said:
I think this was a joke? That's how I took it. That did sound like good advice to me
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Wasn't a joke, but if others say that this won't work they might be right.
Been always using roms from other but from the little I've seen so far it didn't seem wrong else I wouldn't have posted it
Regards.
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help please!

hi, i saw on clockwordmod the "install rom from sd card" option and i'm curious..if i download cm10 rom on my sd card, is it possible to install it via that cwm option? probably stupid question but i'm a noob and i would really like to have JB on my HD2 but i don't know what's the easy way to do it.. thank you all
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Of course it is, but you need a partition on your sd card. Also, newer roms come with the aroma installer and then, when you start the installation, aroma starts and you're asked if you want nand(probably tmous only) or data2ext(everything goes to partition) type. Then you select the second one(if you partitioned sd card) and it installs it itself. There's also the newest method called native sd. Search for tutorials and other because what I wrote isn't enough.
Just to mention, you can partition your sd with cwm, or mini tool partition wizard. With partitioning, you lose all the data that you have on sd.
Good luck!

thank you just one more question.. when i do sd par. which size on ext size should i put? i have 3 options (128,256 and 512 mb)?
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Read if the rom yr installing has any instructions regarding a preferred partition size. Other than that it's up to you, you can do some reading on here about it. I'd opt for 512. I currently use 1024. You won't break anything, jump in, pick one and enjoy getting to try the latest jellybean! Try Paranoid Android, you'll hate to be without the "hybrid mode" once you try it.

ComputerFight said:
Read if the rom yr installing has any instructions regarding a preferred partition size. Other than that it's up to you, you can do some reading on here about it. I'd opt for 512. I currently use 1024. You won't break anything, jump in, pick one and enjoy getting to try the latest jellybean! Try Paranoid Android, you'll hate to be without the "hybrid mode" once you try it.
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Sh*t, I haven't seen your post.. I've already installed NativeSD Jellybean, and I must sa..I'm dissapointed .. it has some twitches, and I don't bave jellybean camera
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allenzgb said:
Sh*t, I haven't seen your post.. I've already installed NativeSD Jellybean, and I must sa..I'm dissapointed .. it has some twitches, and I don't bave jellybean camera
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If you mean the JB 4.2 camera, then you should really read more carefully. The title and OP clearly state the ROM is a JB 4.1.2 ROM, there aren't any 4.2 ROMs available yet. Luckily for you, there's a link to my thread containing some of the 4.2 apps (both flashable zips and .apks) in my sig.

allenzgb said:
installed NativeSD Jellybean, and I must sa..I'm dissapointed .. it has some twitches, p
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nativesd is dependant on your sd card having a decent random write speed. if its slow, you get lags and hangs.