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Samsung Galaxy S II shows its raw power,Flash in browser performance test

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Naturally, being the replacement for the well-known Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, the Galaxy S II has to fit the very large shoes of its predecessor. And judging by the initial impressions from quickly playing around with the device – it does pretty well. The user interface is ridiculously snappy and the phone, despite its mammoth size, feels alive and light.
And just to give you a taste of what kind of performance we are talking about, we’ve prepared a short video of the Galaxy S II playing a 720p HD YouTube video straight within the stock Android browser.
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GSMARENA

Wow so smooth and fast!!
Also a screen rotation animation!
Nice video thanks
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Brumble said:
Wow so smooth and fast!!
Also a screen rotation animation!
Nice video thanks
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Yes,that's what i said,its damn smooth & fast

Yep stikingly fast un comparison to SGS and even new SE ARC.CAnt wait for may/june release
Can wait to see full review

Yup super smooth
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Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.

Toss3 said:
Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.
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Then how do you play them ?

It comes with a pre installed flash player. Which i suppose, like the atrix's own, is optimized specifically for the galaxy s.
I have a captivate right now, and it's running 2.2, and whilst it can play 720p youtube videos, they are choppy, so not much use. More than likely however, it will be able to play it more smoothly when a T&t rolls out the gingerbread update for it. If they ever plan to. =.=

No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash videos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout playing it straight within the browser. I just asked him to figure out if he really know this trick or not
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touness69 said:
No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash vidéos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout play it straight within the browser. I just asked him to know if he really know this trick or not
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What UA String do you use?

touness69 said:
No you don't understand there is a trick to play 720p flash videos butterly smooth (even Underclocked at 800Mhz btw) on a Galaxy S running froyo or up, he was not talking bout playing it straight within the browser. I just asked him to figure out if he really know this trick or not
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There's no trick they play fine without setting anything up.

Is that kinetic bounce back at 0:34??

another smooth internet browsing for SGS2, even beat nexus s & other dual core phone, this make me more excited to get this phone!!

Lovin It... Thanks

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There's no trick they play fine without setting anything up.
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Oh yeah ? So you can play a 720p vid butterly smooth straight from the défault browser on a galaxy S ?
Come on there is stuter with a 480p vid even with flash 10.2
another smooth internet browsing for SGS2, even beat nexus s & other dual core phone, this make me more excited to get this phone!!
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OMGGG I want that now , that's ridiculously smoothhh

Toss3 said:
Most people don't know it, but 720p youtube videos play fine on my SGS with 2.3.3 as long as I don't use the flash player from the market. The SGS II is going to be on another level I'm sure, but 720p flash files are already conquered.
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It largely depends on the bit rate of the video. I could make a video that has a resolution of 480X272 that even the SGS II could not play. Bit rate is...not everything, but most things, with video.
Also, it sounds more like you're viewing the HTML 5 version of it than the Flash version, but IDK.

I was going to wait for the G2x. IDK now. Is this coming to t-mobile?

touness69 said:
Oh yeah ? So you can play a 720p vid butterly smooth straight from the défault browser on a galaxy S ?
Come on there is stuter with a 480p vid even with flash 10.2
OMGGG I want that now , that's ridiculously smoothhh
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Simply put - yes. Not using the flash version from the market. Both HD videos from gametrailers and 720p videos from gsmarena play fine.
EDIT: It's actually running the 10.1 version of the flash player

@ tou
There is stutter for 480p videos. But It is only present at the start, due to the loading and I guess the cpu getting ready. After the start, it plays like any other flash video.

Yes the G2X is for TMobile although the specs of the SGS II surpass any device announced to date.

Adobe Flash no longer developed for mobile platforms

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/ex...lash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226
I don't know what this means for the future but one main advantage Android 2.2 & higher always had over IOS was full Adobe Flash player. Videos, games & more. Listening to the radio I always hear "you can listen to our station online by downloading our app from Itunes"...Or I can just use Android 2.2 or higher, go right to their website and stream it to my phone just as I would on my PC, no app needed.
Hopefully this means more sites will adopt HTML5 and Adobe Flash will go the way of Realplayer.

Oh well....flash never ran good on android phones. I have seen most gingerbread phones with dual core processors still struggling with heavy flash loaded web pages (galaxy S2 seems the only exception). My question is does android support HTML5, which seems to be the future?

guess Jobs was right. stupid dead bastard and his legion of super fans. ifanboys never gonna let anyone live this one down, ****

The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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rakeshchn said:
Oh well....flash never ran good on android phones. I have seen most gingerbread phones with dual core processors still struggling with heavy flash loaded web pages (galaxy S2 seems the only exception). My question is does android support HTML5, which seems to be the future?
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I agree it isn't PERFECT, but with the recent release of Flash 11 for Android I was hoping future Android phones would improve so that Flash ran as smoothly as on my PC. It was nice showing all the fangirls how I could listen to streaming radio stations and watch videos and sports highlights exactly as they appear on a PC. Meanwhile they are scratching their heads wondering how come all they ever get is mobile websites on their jesus phone. Guess they need an app for that.
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The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.

Phrack said:
If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.
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I'm not talking about ads. I'm talking about streaming videos, and it does work. I don't know about games, I think it will be hard playing flash based games on a mobile phone.
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iynfynity said:
The stock browser is the problem, well at least in my experience.
When I need to use flash I just use the opera mobile which is the smoothest browser for Android.
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+1 to that, but instead of OPERA, i prefer miui's stock browser or Dolphin HD.
Phrack said:
I agree it isn't PERFECT, but with the recent release of Flash 11 for Android I was hoping future Android phones would improve so that Flash ran as smoothly as on my PC. It was nice showing all the fangirls how I could listen to streaming radio stations and watch videos and sports highlights exactly as they appear on a PC. Meanwhile they are scratching their heads wondering how come all they ever get is mobile websites on their jesus phone. Guess they need an app for that.
If by Flash you mean ads, yes, Flash ads work beautifully in Opera Mobile 11. Any other Flash content (videos, games, streaming) doesn't work in Opera. Stock browser in Froyo handles full Flash content the fastest.
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Ads? what the hell? I block all the ads that I can, i haven't seen a single ad in about a year on my phone/computer.
Using MIUI browser/Dolphin, and as for the fact, opera, flash videos work without lag, perfectly. maybe its you doing something differently? Also for me, flash hasn't been dependent on which firmware i'm on, i've used 2.1,2.2, and currently on 2.3 and it's always been smooth.

xriderx66 said:
Also for me, flash hasn't been dependent on which firmware i'm on, i've used 2.1,2.2, and currently on 2.3 and it's always been smooth.
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guess Jobs was right. stupid dead bastard and his legion of super fans. ifanboys never gonna let anyone live this one down, ****
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No he wasn't IMO. Considering Flash was somewhat doomed anyway (not just on mobile devices), I blame Adobe for not having the balls to break backwards compatibility (i.e. (throwing a hail mary pass) with earlier flash versions. Had they done this and then turned on HW Acceleration by default in recent versions (instead of leaving it for developers to do - if they even knew it was available / posssible) Flash would likely performed much better across the board. The sites broken by the backward compatibility changes would either wither and die (good riddance) or be fixed thus improvement the state of Flash for all involved. At least, that's how I think it could have gone. Instead it would seem Flash will slip into further irrelevance (I don't expect it to die any time soon) due to Adobe's cowardice.

Flash has always been terrible on mobiles. Flash Lite was perfect. Full Flash is a travesty. Its novelty wore.off very fast for me. I'm just pissed that now I have to deal with no flash instead of gimped flash.
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apple iphone sucks and they ruin everything as always smdh, i rather have it but guess thats one less thing i can say my phone doesn't had
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Truthfully I don't think it's THAT big a deal. You can still access Web content with Android 2.2 or higher that Iphone users can't (I can go to FOX.COM and watch Family Guy, sorry Iphone, you can't do that). Adobe has stated that they will be focusing on games and Adobe AIR. Maybe more and more websites will stop using flash for streaming and use HTML5 instead eliminating the need for flash altogther.
As others have stated Flash for mobes is a resource hog and therefore it's not something I use extensively on my phone. I find myself browsing mobile versions of websites 90% of the time because they load much, much faster. I just like having the OPTION of switching from mobile to full desktop version because sometimes mobile websites are missing content that's available on desktop versions.
I also like not having to depend on proxy browsers such as Bolt or Skyfire which were unreliable when I had my Windows Mobile phone.
I guess the questions are:
1. Will future version of Android stop including Adobe Flash Player?
2. Will websites eventually start switching over to HTML5 and dump Flash? I think this is the likely scenario but it'll probably take years.
N8ter said:
Flash has always been terrible on mobiles. Flash Lite was perfect. Full Flash is a travesty. Its novelty wore.off very fast for me. I'm just pissed that now I have to deal with no flash instead of gimped flash.
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Flash lite is perfect...if you love viewing ads, that's all it's good for. You won't get videos or games to work. I had flash lite on Windows Mobile 6 and Android 2.1 so I know.

That was an old version of flash lite. It gets updated to support later versions of flash video. I could view a ron of videos on my vibrant before the Froyo update. Not only does flash hog resources and battery, it also destroys browser performance.
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Chrome browser for android.....beta release ...Now

www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/02/chrome-android/
Update: NO flash will be made for Chrome browser ...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249829/no_flash_for_chrome_on_android_adobe_says.html
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Requires 4.0 to work.. could someone try it using cm9.. I still on miui.
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dang - about time!
downloading now

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Requires 4.0 to work.. could someone try it using cm9.. I still on miui.
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Works VERY WELL! I have lived by miren browser... this blows miren out of the water... very snappy to load pages! My new favorite browser! Now they just need to make it work on something other than ics and it'll be the only browser I need!
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I agree, its pretty snappy and it feels like it should have been there all along.
I like it very much.

I just downloaded it and I really like it so far. The tab system is really smooth and good looking and there are a bunch of nice optimizations (like the magnification bubble that pops up when clicking on small links, like page numbers on a thread). The desktop bookmarks is SUPER laggy though, it takes a good 15-20 seconds for it to load and let you click on something.

Been using this on my PC's for years and I love it on my phone. Fastest browser yet! I just hope they come out with a dark version. Previously I used the dark dolphin mini and blacked out miren, chrome is soooo bright!
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Working very well on CM9
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I always wondered why the google OS was missing the chrome browser.

does not support flash

s89281b said:
does not support flash
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So what. Flash is a dead technology and if you really need to use it don't install the old browser.
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brooksyx said:
So what. Flash is a dead technology and if you really need to use it don't install the old browser.
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Sites like this would like to have a word with you.

Blad3 said:
Sites like this would like to have a word with you.
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Its only a beta, I'm sure more features will be implemented. Leave a review on the market to include flash just please don't give it a negative rating, its a great browser.
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it isn't allowing me to install running cm9 a1

Blad3 said:
Sites like this would like to have a word with you.
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How often do people go to Kongregate on their phones through the browser to play games? There's enough apps with similar games, and you will still have the stock browser with flash if you really need it. I find that I barely use it in the browser. The Chrome browser is really well put together and will only get better!

HTML5 is just about ready to bust out; youtube has a whole branch for it. I am thinking really soon HTML5 will get the big push. (in that non-computer geeks will know it exists)

i agree flash is out dated but alot of sites still use it. thought it deserve a mention for people like me that dont want to have multiple apps for one purpose cluttering their phones. chrome beta is a great browser but until flash is completly gone it wont work for me. just my prefrence.

Running this on CM9-alpha1 and loving it! Tab management is the best I have seen to date, very clean. Also, syncing bookmarks and history is a huge plus. I type "f" in the address bar and it auto-suggests straight to the Epic 4G Android Dev page on XDA, just like it does on my laptop and desktop.

brooksyx said:
So what. Flash is a dead technology and if you really need to use it don't install the old browser.
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Irrelevant. It is a browser's job to show me web pages. If there's an old page with useless flash content, it is the responsibility of the browser to render it.
Regardless, I downloaded this earlier and wonder why it hasn't been part of Android all along, or why it wasn't just an update to the stock browser. Google now has two very similar mobile browsers for Android.

Bad flash performance since ICS, look here!

Since ICS update to Transformer 720p flash is completely unwatchable on my Asus Transformer.
After googling a bit I found a bug report in Adobes public bug db with a confirmed problem, GPU acceleration is not enabled.
https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=bug&id=3099866
However, Adobe isn't planning on fixing it because of lack of time.
Please register on the bug tracker and press vote, if enough votes come in the issue might be prioritized.

I voted...

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I do not have these problems. Updated Flash once I went to ICS. However, I am using the latest Revolver ROM, so that might make a difference

Flash is dead, long live htlm5

I don't have problem with 720 flash youtube videos.... Stock ICS

I already voted.
Have been experiencing problems on every variant of the stock browser (ICS+, Dolphin and vanilla stock) despite doing a complete wipe prior to updating.
FWITW, Opera updated their client and flash plays nicely on 720p.
Don't know how Opera can make this work and stock doesn't....
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asder00 said:
I don't have problem with 720 flash youtube videos.... Stock ICS
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Please be more specific. Are you using stock browser, Dolphin or what? Also, is your user agent set to desktop?

Those YouTube videos may not even be flash. It may be defaulting to html5

funmerlin said:
Those YouTube videos may not even be flash. It may be defaulting to html5
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Yeah, I opted out of the HTML test a while ago.

turtlelord said:
I already voted.
Have been experiencing problems on every variant of the stock browser (ICS+, Dolphin and vanilla stock) despite doing a complete wipe prior to updating.
FWITW, Opera updated their client and flash plays nicely on 720p.
Don't know how Opera can make this work and stock doesn't....
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if thats the case sounds like the problem is now with flash

xbs said:
Flash is dead, long live htlm5
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HTML5 is not a solution yet. Flash is critical for things like twitch.tv. Nothing bugs me more than apologetics trying to dismiss the lack of Flash because "HTML5 is the future", this is the same thing Apple users have done for years while Android users have mocked them.
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I also have problems, but only when I try full screen mode. Otherwise it works fine.
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Gary13579 said:
HTML5 is not a solution yet. Flash is critical for things like twitch.tv. Nothing bugs me more than apologetics trying to dismiss the lack of Flash because "HTML5 is the future", this is the same thing Apple users have done for years while Android users have mocked them.
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Couldn't agree more! I use my tf for a bit of stream browsing on twitch.tv and it bugs me as hell that while everything was fine and dandy under HC it is now crap.
I can confirm that windowed mode works after dolphin's upgrade yesterday but fullscren is still not there. It's like it opens on a "ghost" window somewhere and you can't focus on it to bring it to the front.
Finally can others please try opera to see if this resolves the issues? (Their latest changelog speaks specifically about adding flash functionality for 4.x devices)

Nexus 7 Netflix Opinions?

Hey everybody, I'm new to the Nexus 7 forums (coming from HTC Amaze/Samsung Infuse forums) and I was wondering how Netflix plays on this device.
I ordered one yesterday, but I'm curious as to whether or not it will be a decent experience. I currently have a Galaxy Tab 7 and the netflix app is HORRENDOUS. I mean, it takes about 5 minutes to load a tv show, and my Amaze connects (via the same wifi) within seconds. I'm just wondering how the speed is of the netflix app. I'm also curious about the video playback quality. Is it decent?
I can't wait to get my Nexus 7 and contribute more to this forum!

shiftylock said:
Hey everybody, I'm new to the Nexus 7 forums (coming from HTC Amaze/Samsung Infuse forums) and I was wondering how Netflix plays on this device.
I ordered one yesterday, but I'm curious as to whether or not it will be a decent experience. I currently have a Galaxy Tab 7 and the netflix app is HORRENDOUS. I mean, it takes about 5 minutes to load a tv show, and my Amaze connects (via the same wifi) within seconds. I'm just wondering how the speed is of the netflix app. I'm also curious about the video playback quality. Is it decent?
I can't wait to get my Nexus 7 and contribute more to this forum!
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I have a fast internet connection to my N7 and Netflix is outstanding. YMMV

Netflix runs fast on mine, you sure it's not your Internet connection?
As soon as I click a video, it takes no longer than a second to load.
As for quality, here you go:
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Devils rejects:
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Works great on mine. I think I remember seeing an option in my account (not app) for streaming quality with 3 choices, I chose highest quality. Not sure how much of a difference it makes.

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Works great on mine. I think I remember seeing an option in my account (not app) for streaming quality with 3 choices, I chose highest quality. Not sure how much of a difference it makes.
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Yes, that's correct.
The setting you speak off is on your account via the netflix website, people should make sure about this setting.
I don't think you can receive HD streams unless on the highest setting.
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Netflix is working well on N7. Quality is good. The initial load is as fast as desktop, but it sometimes pauses to buffer. Could be my router for all I know though.

Works very well on mine. No startup delay and quality is excellent.
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Works great on mine! Quality is very nice, very crisp. Only issue I had was a few jitters during the first few minutes of playback on a Firefly ep and then it settled down and was smooth as butter for the remainder of the episode.

shiftylock said:
Hey everybody, I'm new to the Nexus 7 forums (coming from HTC Amaze/Samsung Infuse forums) and I was wondering how Netflix plays on this device.
I ordered one yesterday, but I'm curious as to whether or not it will be a decent experience. I currently have a Galaxy Tab 7 and the netflix app is HORRENDOUS. I mean, it takes about 5 minutes to load a tv show, and my Amaze connects (via the same wifi) within seconds. I'm just wondering how the speed is of the netflix app. I'm also curious about the video playback quality. Is it decent?
I can't wait to get my Nexus 7 and contribute more to this forum!
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Works excellent. In fact on other tablets (galaxy 10.1)Netflix scrolling is sometimes laggy not so with N7
Videos look awesome
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Netflix on N7 - FTW!

Quality is good, application is terrible. Sometimes it doesn't register to play unless you exit the app, scrolling is choppy unless you activate hardware acceleration for 2d rendering, browse menu randomly pops up when using search.
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redmonke255 said:
Quality is good, application is terrible. Sometimes it doesn't register to play unless you exit the app, scrolling is choppy unless you activate hardware acceleration for 2d rendering, browse menu randomly pops up when using search.
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Would you think that's app specific or because of their new(ish) UI, which I personally can't stand.

Mike Fitz said:
Works great on mine. I think I remember seeing an option in my account (not app) for streaming quality with 3 choices, I chose highest quality. Not sure how much of a difference it makes.
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Thanks foe the heads up! Even without setting this Netflix has been excellent on my N7.
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I've been running into this problem where it doesn't register play when i click the movie after search, but i think its a netflix bug. Other than that it plays great!

Thank you for the great responses. It's good to hear that I won't have any more Netflix woes And in response to the question about my internet connection: My phone loads netflix shows within seconds on the same wifi network as the Galaxy Tab, which takes a century to load, then when it does load a menu pops up saying "netflix is not responding" which delays video playback even further. Honestly I'm at the point where I think the Gtab is garbage and this is the upgrade I need. Thanks again!

Netflix works great for me on my N7, iPad, iPhone, XBox 360, Blu Ray player and iMac.

Same here. I think my Gtab is just cursed lol. Like when I had it on stock I couldn't even get it to load the app. It would just time out. Now with the cubed3 rom I'm able to get it ghetto-rigged enough to work. It's nice to know I will actually have a netflix-ready device!

Hexdecimal said:
Would you think that's app specific or because of their new(ish) UI, which I personally can't stand.
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Yea, hopefully an update will smooth it out.
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Question mine doesn't show netflix in full screen is there a setting I'm missing?

Netflix is laggy on my Nexus 7. I have tried using a faster connection at work to stream, and it still lags. More like the screen freezes for a couple of seconds, but the sound is smooth. I have tried it after today's Netflix app update, and still having problems.