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I've been installing Froyo Roms coutesy of FusionRom and Froydvillain makers for a while now on my Hero. It's now time for an upgrade...
I know that Android 3.0 is coming "soon" and will supposedly be released this year - maybe with next couple of months but info is very thin on the ground.
Wondering if anyone knows if Android 3.0 devices will be released this year or is it just the Software that will be released and announced?
I'm holding out upgrading my phone and waiting for Android 3.0 but the most compelling option out at the moment is the Samsung Galaxy S. Anyone think Android 3.0 will be available on the Galaxy S or is it worth waiting until later this year to see what new hotness gets released?
I know there's not much info out there about Android 3.0 but I'm essentially asking if it's worth waiting or not?
Could be waiting for 4 months or more, can you handle that? Having said that Google are well known for just up and releasing stuff without much build up so it could be sooner than expected... personally I don't think it will be til early 2011 for 3.0 phones to be released.
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Could be waiting for 4 months or more, can you handle that? Having said that Google are well known for just up and releasing stuff without much build up so it could be sooner than expected... personally I don't think it will be til early 2011 for 3.0 phones to be released.
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Really? Early 2011? Damn.... I was convinced that 3.0 would be out *with* phones by the end of this year?! I can't really handle 4 months or more because my Hero is so damn slow and unstable. I love and appreciate the custom ROMs for it from the good folks at XDA but I need mo speed!
Thanks for the reply.... Only question now is finding out if the Galaxy S will get the custom ROM love that my Hero got or if I should wait for a HTC of similar (or better) spec.... I think I'm going to go for the Galaxy S because I could be waiting forever otherwise and my phone is basically a pain in the ass. I'll have a look at what's going on in the Galaxy S dev forum....
Bear in mind anything on this subject is speculation. I don't have any insider knowledge, its just my guesstimate.
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Bear in mind anything on this subject is speculation. I don't have any insider knowledge, its just my guesstimate.
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I appreciate that. Thing is.... What happens with Android releases usually? What's the pattern? Did 2.0 come out as software after an announcement and then a good while later the phones trickeld out? How long between the announcement and the release of SDK/dev tools etc and the the actual availablitlity of phones? I know very little is know about 3.0 - but does anyone know if it's confirmed that the *software* will be revealed/released by the end of this year or something else?
Is there a better place to ask this?
Cheers
I have heard speculation Android 3 will be for the tablets.
So if you want it, hold off on buying anything. Remember, dont buy because of what they promise. HTC promised 2.0 and 2.1 for AGES before releasing it. Custom ROMs were possible as there were leaks, but without leaks, you're essentially stuffed.
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I have heard speculation Android 3 will be for the tablets.
So if you want it, hold off on buying anything. Remember, dont buy because of what they promise. HTC promised 2.0 and 2.1 for AGES before releasing it. Custom ROMs were possible as there were leaks, but without leaks, you're essentially stuffed.
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I never knew that leaks make custom Roms possible...There are already custom Roms on XDA for the Galaxy S as far as I can tell. Forgive my ignorance but is it the case that Custom ROMs can only be developed from leaked official ROMs (for drivers etc)? Or can custom ROMs be developed simply from android sources? i.e. Because the Galaxy S is one of only a few android handsets from Samsung am I right in thinking that it's therefore much more difficult to, say, port Froyo to the Samsung Galaxy S unless there is an official version out there somewhere from Samgung themselves?
I LOVED messing about with new ROMs on my Hero and am currently rocking ForydVillain which is great - but the cracks in the Hero are starting to show - it's slow. In terms of ROM development - are HTC devices much more likely to get custom ROMs than Samsung phones? I don't know of any upcoming HTC handsets that rival the Samsung Galaxy S......yet!
It's such a pain because there are so many variables with Android, Handsets etc.... :-s
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I never knew that leaks make custom Roms possible...There are already custom Roms on XDA for the Galaxy S as far as I can tell. Forgive my ignorance but is it the case that Custom ROMs can only be developed from leaked official ROMs (for drivers etc)? Or can custom ROMs be developed simply from android sources? i.e. Because the Galaxy S is one of only a few android handsets from Samsung am I right in thinking that it's therefore much more difficult to, say, port Froyo to the Samsung Galaxy S unless there is an official version out there somewhere from Samgung themselves?
I LOVED messing about with new ROMs on my Hero and am currently rocking ForydVillain which is great - but the cracks in the Hero are starting to show - it's slow. In terms of ROM development - are HTC devices much more likely to get custom ROMs than Samsung phones? I don't know of any upcoming HTC handsets that rival the Samsung Galaxy S......yet!
It's such a pain because there are so many variables with Android, Handsets etc.... :-s
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Hold on, you've got confused here, as I wasn't pretty clear about what I was saying. You don't need a leak to make a ROM, but a leak lets you do it before official release. What I'm saying is that there's no guarantee that HTC or samsung or motorola or whoever will release Android 3 in any expedient time. HTC took forever to bring us 2.1, and the only way we managed to get it running BEFORE official release (which was June), was to use custom ROMs based on a leak.
Without that leak, we would likely have been much further back in making ROMs, and might not have managed till the release.
You can dev from a final release just fine, but leaks are needed to do so before the ROM release.
As for building from sources, you can do so, if there's a vendor overlay available. This is how FroydVillain is built.
XDA specialised in HTC devices since 2002/2003, but is now introducing stuff like Samsung devices. I don't know how many "real" devs are on the Samsung, but I think you'll have less custom ROMs, at least initially, until a development community builds up.
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Hold on, you've got confused here, as I wasn't pretty clear about what I was saying. You don't need a leak to make a ROM, but a leak lets you do it before official release. What I'm saying is that there's no guarantee that HTC or samsung or motorola or whoever will release Android 3 in any expedient time. HTC took forever to bring us 2.1, and the only way we managed to get it running BEFORE official release (which was June), was to use custom ROMs based on a leak.
Without that leak, we would likely have been much further back in making ROMs, and might not have managed till the release.
You can dev from a final release just fine, but leaks are needed to do so before the ROM release.
As for building from sources, you can do so, if there's a vendor overlay available. This is how FroydVillain is built.
XDA specialised in HTC devices since 2002/2003, but is now introducing stuff like Samsung devices. I don't know how many "real" devs are on the Samsung, but I think you'll have less custom ROMs, at least initially, until a development community builds up.
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Thanks for all the info - appreciate the detail and effort and maybe I need to get out more but I find it all fascinating
By the way - Somehow I've been thinking all day - utterly convinced - that 2011 is a whole year (12 months) from now instead of just a few months from now. I even called Orange to find out when I could cancel my contract. These years are flying by.... Maybe I'm getting old... Consequently - maybe I'll hold out a few more months for 3.0...
FroydVillain is as good as it gets on the Hero at the mo and it can only get better(!)
While the T959 is a well built phone with great specs, I felt like it was incomplete until 2.2 ROMs came out in November. Then, when 2.3 and the Nexus S were announced, that feeling returned.. now with Cyanogenmod7 working so well, I am in love with my Vibrant once again.
Even without any further version updates (2.4, 3.0 if possible) the phone has been improved dramatically by the work of Team Whiskey, Supercurio, Eugene, and the Cyanogenmod Team.
What keeps the Vibrant apart from all the HTC and Motorola phones when it comes to Cyanogenmod - is it a driver issue? Is it because of the Hummingbird processor?
Now that CM7 is finally working well on the Vibrant, does this mean that future Cyanogenmod versions will work on the Vibrant? Have they finally "cracked the shell" so to speak?
I am curious also as to what makes CyanogenMod different to work on for our phones vs the other ones you named.
CM is actually worse for Motorola devices as they have a locked bootloader...
On the other hand, HTC is very good about releasing source for their devices when compared to Samsung, who rarely releases source code if at all (driver source). Plus, CM started on HTCs, and with every device using similar Qualcomm hardware, i can imagine it is easier to port to newer Qualcomm-equipped HTC devices. That said, it appears that HTC is beginning to implement software to prevent rooting on newer phones like the G2, so we may see more people moving towards the more open Samsung devices.
Finally, this is explained to me. Thanks!
Why do drivers need to be recompiled for each version of Android? Do they need to be recompiled for similar releases such as 2.0 and 2.1 or 2.3 and 2.4?
I'm not exactly an expert when it comes to the Linux architecture, so take the following with a grain of salt.
Anyways, I believe it has to do with the kernel, which should contain the device drivers. Now, kernels must indeed be recompiled for every android system update; this is why a 2.1 or 2.2 kernel will not work with the newer 2.3.x roms. The problem for us is that once Samsung stops releasing kernels/roms for the SGS series, devs will no longer have a base to build off of. Hopefully devs can make use of updates/drivers from the Nexus S to keep the SGS series up to date with CM.
qtilt ......... nicely explained
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qtilt ......... nicely explained
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I agree!
The main difference between CM/MIUI and the rest of the roms you see here on XDA is that CM/MIUI are built directly off of a Vanilla Froyo/Gingerbread. No extra flavorings or seasonings such as TouchWiz, HTC Sense, MotoBlur, Droid UI, etc. The use of, or misuse of, causes phones to run slower and do more work (unnecessarily) while it computes extra calculations of the UI. [EDIT]When developers BASE a rom off of a leak or pre-existing firmware it does not make it Vanilla just by removing TWiz or Sense or the rest of bloatware. Vanilla is generally the most simple a firmware can be, with no added extra-pazzaz[/EDIT]
There hasn't been a solid update to MIUI for our phone in a month, but CM has nightly builds and HOPEFULLY it has "cracked the shell," so to speak. Even if Samsung STOPS upgrading our firmware (which has already happened IMO), CyanogenMod makes their own code and develops independently without the use of previous stockpiles of code...which is why it's difficult at first to come up with their own driver source (because Samsung refuses to release ALL the sources needed). Hopefully our Vibrant is covered for the next 2.4 or 3.0 (3.1) update.
Samsung needs to continue to make money. They wouldn't if they let each phone update to the newest andros os. Not just samsung, any hardware company.
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Samsung needs to continue to make money. They wouldn't if they let each phone update to the newest android os. Not just Samsung, any hardware company.
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I disagree with this because, If Samsung released the code and people updated their phones as they liked and put different operating systems, roms as they liked. customer satisfaction would skyrocket. People would be more likely to buy new phones only from Samsung because they wanted the newest available hardware, read this as faster more flexible with more options.
but alas Samsung as with most of the manufacturers suffer from penny wise and dollar stupid syndrome and they end up being fairly low on the customer satisfaction scale another words they suck
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I disagree with this because, If Samsung released the code and people updated their phones as they liked and put different operating systems, roms as they liked. customer satisfaction would skyrocket. People would be more likely to buy new phones only from Samsung because they wanted the newest available hardware, read this as faster more flexible with more options.
but alas Samsung as with most of the manufacturers suffer from penny wise and dollar stupid syndrome and they end up being fairly low on the customer satisfaction scale another words they suck
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As a hardware company customer satisfaction is one thing and making them buy more of their products is another. If your 4,5-years old phone can still upgrade to the newest OS why would you buy a new one? So there is a balance for them to keep, their want to make their customer happy with their product but not too happy so their stay with old product forever.
That's very much why samsung was hesitated about 2.3 upgrade for the galaxy line.
The future of the device has more to do with whether or not the developers stick with the device. With the SGS being an international phone there is a better chance of this happening, and samsung has started getting better with releasing their source. As mentioned earlier HTC is making devices harder to root, for example the HTC desire CDMA with 2.2 is impossible to root and the G2 was an annoyance.
Also samsung has released multiple phones that are very close to the Vibrant such as the Nexus S and the Vibrant 4g. The Nexus S will be updated for awhile and source will be released for it, so its something though not much. The Vibrant 4g will also hopefully be updated and that will hopefully be an easy port. Also 2.4 is very similar to 2.3 so that will hopefully be an easy update for the developers.
Basically as long as we have the awesome devs that we have and we dont flame everyone that the devs get tired of working with the phone then we will have a device that will be updated and beautiful.
I want a stock style gingerbread, and I hope a touchwiz themed CM7 coming out.
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I want a stock style gingerbread, and I hope a touchwiz themed CM7 coming out.
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I believe Krylon is working on Stock, as for a Twiz themed CM7 I ask why?
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I believe Krylon is working on Stock, as for a Twiz themed CM7 I ask why?
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Ha, this is whats to come. CM7 hasn't arrived yet and now they want it with twiz. The ridding of twiz is part of what makes it great.
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Ha, this is whats to come. CM7 hasn't arrived yet and now they want it with twiz. The ridding of twiz is part of what makes it great.
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+1 agree 100%
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The future of the device has more to do with whether or not the developers stick with the device. With the SGS being an international phone there is a better chance of this happening, and samsung has started getting better with releasing their source.
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Basically as long as we have the awesome devs that we have and we dont flame everyone that the devs get tired of working with the phone then we will have a device that will be updated and beautiful.
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Amen. Well stated.
It's been bothering me that a lot of people don't think the atrix is going to get an official ice cream sandwich update.
I decided to make this thread to consolidate any discussion or questions about the future update.
The android carrier alliance promises that any device will be updated to the newest version of android for 18 months after its release (if its hardware allows it).
Three points to make:
1) Since ICS is being released in oct/nov, the 18 months portion of the agreement becomes null and void. The atrix is within the timeframe.
2) The nexus S is getting ICS, and since the hardware in the atrix is superior (dual core processor, battery, etc), the atrix can receive the ICS update.
3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
All these signs point me to believe that the atrix is for sure getting ICS. What're your thoughts?
Cheers
Also I think the Atrix Dev Team will be handing their CM7 build over to Cyanogenmod for nightlis and it will be an official CM device. And if that happens, when Cyanogenmod makes CM8 with ICS we'll get it the I'd guess.
4 Words...
Who gives a crap.
Didn't they announce that after the release of the Atrix ? Or does that not matter?
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I think my thread was cooler.
I voided my warranty.
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3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
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I think that while Google's purchase/buyout seems like it may benefit Android users. I also feel that it will not give any benefits until long after the Atrix has passed it's sell by date. Mergers and acquisitions take time to complete. Systems have to be integrated on a large scale, and corporate policies realized in the acquired business. I think Google's initial focus will be on patents, and secondary long term focus will then be Android, and how they can take the lions share of the marketplace with smart devices (not just phones). Give it 2 years at least in my opinion before we see a big swing.
This is almost the exact same thing I said over in the Motorola Forums (or maybe I said it here, I can't remember). It seems people expect things to change immediately but probably don't realize it's not even a done deal yet as of this posting. There still needs to be an investigation and approvals and all that. Like you said, it could be a couple years before any changes (within Motorola's camp anyways) becomes noticeable.
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I think that while Google's purchase/buyout seems like it may benefit Android users. I also feel that it will not give any benefits until long after the Atrix has passed it's sell by date. Mergers and acquisitions take time to complete. Systems have to be integrated on a large scale, and corporate policies realized in the acquired business. I think Google's initial focus will be on patents, and secondary long term focus will then be Android, and how they can take the lions share of the marketplace with smart devices (not just phones). Give it 2 years at least in my opinion before we see a big swing.
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Also, it seems people forget that Motoblur exists on Motorola devices. Unless they actually convert the Blur service into a full on application platform I don't see an "Official" ICS build coming to the Atrix until at least 6 months after Google releases the code for it. Our best bet lies within the great devs we have here in the community. Which reminds me, everyone, stop complaining about updates!
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This is almost the exact same thing I said over in the Motorola Forums (or maybe I said it here, I can't remember). It seems people expect things to change immediately but probably don't realize it's not even a done deal yet as of this posting. There still needs to be an investigation and approvals and all that. Like you said, it could be a couple years before any changes (within Motorola's camp anyways) becomes noticeable.
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Here's the thing, yes Google will have a flava of it sitting around that XDA can port over.
The real question is what's the ETA with the carriers?
For instance my Motorola Milestone didn't have "Froyo" ready until the end of March this year, and it was a half-assed effort put together by Telus. Then shortly after, they discontinued the phone.
I agree that XDA users will have a port of ICS through CM7, but for OTA who knows when that will be?...
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Magnetox said:
It's been bothering me that a lot of people don't think the atrix is going to get an official ice cream sandwich update.
I decided to make this thread to consolidate any discussion or questions about the future update.
The android carrier alliance promises that any device will be updated to the newest version of android for 18 months after its release (if its hardware allows it).
Three points to make:
1) Since ICS is being released in oct/nov, the 18 months portion of the agreement becomes null and void. The atrix is within the timeframe.
2) The nexus S is getting ICS, and since the hardware in the atrix is superior (dual core processor, battery, etc), the atrix can receive the ICS update.
3) With google's acquisition of MM the likeliness of the atrix receiving ICS has gone up substantially, whether or not it remains as a seperate branch under google's ownership. It also increases the chances of us getting a stock (or very close to stock) ICS build.
All these signs point me to believe that the atrix is for sure getting ICS. What're your thoughts?
Cheers
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Your first point is completely wrong. They guaranteed updates to the phone, but never specifically to the "latest version" of android released. IE you will get security/bug fix updates, but not necessarily updates to the base OS. Secondly, this only applies to phones released AFTER the agreement. Also, google is merely urging NOT requiring them. So basically, all this agreement leads to is that future devices will have a minimum of an 18 month support cycle, nothing more.
Right after we get GB, people start asking for ICS...
This even shows more proof that we, as human, will never be satisfied with what we got.
which can be both good and bad..
tian105 said:
Right after we get GB, people start asking for ICS...
This even shows more proof that we, as human, will never be satisfied with what we got.
which can be both good and bad..
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There are no humans here, only Androids and Androids are selfish.
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I read this...sounds like we are going to be seeing it next month...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41975/android-ice-cream-sandwich-release-date
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Mac11700 said:
I read this...sounds like we are going to be seeing it next month...
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41975/android-ice-cream-sandwich-release-date
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my bday is next month lol and this would make a great gift comming from googrola
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my bday is next month lol and this would make a great gift comming from googrola
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I saw this on my b-day yesterday...
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Theres people asking moto on there facebook page if the atrix 2 will get ics. I also told then the og atrix people want continued support for the og atrix. Heres what they said. Like · Comment · 3 hours ago
Motorola We'll be releasing devices for ICS 6 weeks after Google releases the final version of it. What do you like most about your ATRIX 2 so far? Have you tried the universal lapdock?
Motorola We'll be releasing devices for ICS 6 weeks after Google releases the final version of it
So pretty much same answer too both they have no plans to issue ics updates.just new devices with ics
Unlocked bootloader + Cyanogenmod = continued support. Many of us got this phone because it screamed future proof, and its got more than enough power for ICS. Even if not through Motorola, the Atrix will get Android 4.0.
Maybe no ICS. Maybe yes ICS. Why the f start a new thread?!
Moto knows what there going too do. They have known for awhile why so cell phone companys feel that we do not. Have. The right too know these things. Better communication would be a much happier consumer.
The Atrix is still in GREAT SHAPE!
I've said it before and I'll say it again, people are STILL BRAGGING about their Nexus 1s. How old is that phone?
We have an unlocked bootloader, which will guarantee us some version of ICS (official or not who cares)
IMO the problem started when the Atrix 2 came out. (Which is not even a true Atrix successor)
If the Atrix 2 never gets released, none of these topics would be popping up.
Everything is fine, and there is a TON of life left of the Atrix...
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I hate these stupid threads.
Moto has to give the atrix ICS.
Android handset agreement
Thread reported. You already have another thread about ICS.
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I hate these stupid threads.
Moto has to give the atrix ICS.
Android handset agreement
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+1 to that.
The only way you'll see ICS is dev support like CM9 IMHO.
There are plenty of threads discussing Ice Cream Sandwich for the Motorola Atrix. Please continue to use those threads. Thanks guys!
From Motorola's official blog
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You’re not alone. Good thing we’ve got a page for that. You can get the latest software upgrade news on our refreshed page.
You may be wondering why all devices aren’t being upgraded to Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich). Here’s the deal. We work very closely with Google and cell phone carriers for every software update. And, obviously we want the new release to improve our devices. If we determine that can’t be done—well then, we’re not able to upgrade that particular device.
Happy upgrading!
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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You didn't bought a lapdock recently at iandroid ?
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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me too I won't install motorola's buggy update I like cm9
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It will be Jelly Bean by the time they release ICS.
Just motobabling to excuse their poor post-sale support.
Only sthing stopping me from using CM8 as a daily, is the camera issues. Video FC is still an issue i hear.
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Hey man, 10x for the info.
Just one thing to Motorola: who gives a flying fu#$ what your crappy developers do with ICS??? Just release the stin%^g code and drivers for the Atrix and the great devs here will do so much better then whatever you could dream!
Anyhow I (and I guess that a lot of other users) am not going to install Moto's update, and will wait for the official CM9, and the only thing I'm waiting is the driver for the camcorder and a better kernel source.
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Well the deal for them is that XDA Developpers is actually some kind of post-sale support for most of their products... And yes, they could release the drivers so the developpers can make better ROMs, I'm currently waiting for an update to install a custom Blur ICS ROM that could support my Lapdock, I'm not as angry as you but I only own the phone since 2 months, and it saved me from Windows Mobile's nightmare, also I'm waiting for a TRUE GPU driver for ICS (Some 2D apps just don't work). I totally agree with you Motorola sucks on this point.
They should admit they're not able to develop as much as jokersax
Me too. I wont updating when they release the official update. I prefer to wait for CM9.
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Lol, but there still will be hundreds of newbs who will update to it and get wonders crappy service and bricks...
That's a good thing.. as long as they come here and tell us about it lol
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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If any other company said that, it would be valid. But lets ignore Motorola's track record for a second. Why the hell arent the Droid 3 and Droid X2 on that list? They're both effectively the same phone as the Atrix but with 512mb of ram. Even the cut ram should be enough to run considering the Nexus S and One V run it pretty well.
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Probably the same reason the the Bravo is only 2.2.1 and the Defy is 2.2.2 and Defy+ is 2.3.6. Oh and they both have 512mb of ram, same processor, and the biggest difference between the three is the camera module. Should I mention that the Droid2, DroidX, Cliq2, Milestone2, Bravo, Defy, and Defy+ are all almost the same phones with different camera modules, different radios, minor differences, and some happen to have a hw keyboard? They can all boot each others custom roms with some tweaking.
Its so we'll buy newer, better phones with updated systems.
And it is enough ram. My Bravo runs CM9 pretty damn smooth with almost no issues other than some flash problems. Damn locked bootloaders.
I'm putting the blame on MotoBlur. If the Nexus S can handle ICS, then the Atrix most certainly can...
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development. Release the drivers and fire the entire software team or move them to Android development.
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Wait really.. That being true, ill go on the assumption that it is without googling it because I've no reason to doubt you, you're totally right. Unless google sees potential in this blur thing, and since they have their own social network they probably don't. But isn't the whole point of blur social integration? What's googles solution to that or do they feel its a non issue?
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The Google-Motorola merger is supposed to finalized in the coming days. There is no reason for Google to continue MotoBlur development.
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Blur will go away now Microsoft has reamed Motorola in court over it. Might take some time, but I don't see Google/Moto paying Microsoft anything in the long term to keep using it in the US.
Aww, but I liked the social parts of Blur! I also hated everything else about it. Don't suggest any third-party widgets, though.
this is a joke, even my htc tattoo is running on ics which has only 256 mb ram and 512 mb rom