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Hey everybody, before you start bashing about me using the search butten... I did, I was just unsuccessful. The thing is, I've used so many different types of roms and most of them work fine but always there seems to be a problem. What I'm trying to say is. Are there still recently updated Sense roms witch are not Sense 3.0 because I hate unstable roms, I've had so much trouble before. I'm looking for a as fast as possible rom with Sense 2.1 and one that keeps my phone alive longer than 5 hours. Right now I can't even find Sense 2.1 roms without all the flashy sense 3.0 skins and stuff. I did find some old stuff but like I was saying, I don't really like unstable stuff since my phone is killing me with the battery drain.
Does anyone have any suggestions for a recent sense 2.1 rom witch is fast, stable and good for the battery.
Thanks
No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard
Hey,
just try
[13.Apr.11][RAM HD] imilka's RAM Desire HD v2.0 [Des HD][A2SD][K:Raf1.9OC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954369&highlight=imilka
I've used it since 13 Apr. and with the GPS-Fix it was absolut perfect. Wich means no Bugs or something.
Batterydrain was ok. 3mA in Standby with Wifi on.
Uptime with normal usage 24 Hours.
Hope it helps!
Yeah but many FC on games...
Played a lot. Don't get some FC at all
Richy99 said:
sense 3 can be buggy but i prefere the look of sense over a CM7 or any stock gingerbread as they look ugly compared to sense and the keyboard on gingerbread is godawful compared to a sense keyboard
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I actually think CM7 looks brilliant, i use smart keyboard pro dont really bother with the gingerbread keyboard.
[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort
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[21 APR][RAM HD] imilka's Glacier Sense v4.0 [MT4G][A2SD][K:raf1.9OC] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148
the best stable and fully working android rom for the hd2
thanks imilka for his great effort
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Thanks to all the Dev's who made the HD2 to this incredible phone!
jonny68 said:
Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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This ^
Hyperdroid and Typhoon are both EXCELLENT roms. I am running Hyperdroid right now. Battery drain is minimal.
It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?
Nope, Typhoon and Hyperdroid are great and faster, as stated in the post above yours...
you should try the boyppc shiftpda i have been using his Roms from the begining and never had any problems they just work good battery life but you need to manage it well but its a shame he has stoped usig the DAF install for his latest Roms but give them a go see how you like them
Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?
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Any recommended stable and smooth SD ROM?
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why don't you try the SuperRam froyo 1.5? it's veeeryy stable.; but the only thing i don't like, is that there is no stock battery % for the battery.. and i don't want to use widgets as they drain your battery!
i think that the only sense gingerbread rom that will be ok for hd2 will the one that finally htc is going to release for htc desire and i hope that someone of our devs will port it.personally after testing of allmost all sense roms i see that the only one that works with the smallest lags is the roms that are based in desire`s sense like first nand rom by dft or the one from bauner.the other sense roms were made for mobiles with better hardware from hd2 like better cpu and more ram and i think it is very difficult to fit in hd2.
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Sense 3.0 is wayyy too buggy on the HD2 and in reality little or no progress has been made over the last few months as the issues have not really been resolved so im at a loss as to why someone would want to flash it on their phone, give me a solid stable build anyday (like Hyperdroid CM7) i don't miss sense in the slightest and i really cant see why people are so preoccupied with it!
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You are very wrong. There has been ALLOT of progress over last few months as far as 2.1+3.0 or just 3.0.
Check out the rom in my sig, its very stable and fast, Infact its much more stable and faster then the standard DHD sense roms that have allot of lag and the need to reboot various times and have to wait till system settles etc. The one in my sig has no lag and works virtually straight away.
The only bugs really are camcorder (which is nearly fixed + you can use non-HTC in mean time) and minor gfx bugs that are hardly noticeable and the added features well make up for it.
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It seems like the majority of the HD2 ROMs are Sense ROMs. Are there any good non-Sense ROMs, even stock Android ROMs for the HD2, or does everything pretty much include Sense?
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Well im not sure if you have been looking with your eyes closed or what because there is MANY non-sense roms available.
If you want a AOSP stock rom then you should get the NexusHD2 roms, either froyo or gingerbread, They are very fast, very stable and as close to stock as you will get.
DannyBiker said:
No there is nothing. The sad truth of hd2 chefs since two months : all about updates. Stability and fixes ? They don't care about. Thank u for tytung and charansingh...
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Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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KrewsialNL said:
Sadly, i have to agree with this.. I dont see a point in releasing half finished ROMS and then updates that don't really fix things...
Sense (non 3) roms are less and less available, but thankfully we have guys like tytung and charansing havibg roms ou there that work for 100%
Dont get me wrong, i respect and appreciate the efforts, but i dont see the use of 20 releases where all of them have the same flaws and nobody can fix that until we have the desire source for GB.
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What you and all the other newbies here don't seem to understand or grasp is that this site is called xda-developers and this forum is for developments. Things dont always just "work" they develop. What doesn't work now will work later, that's just how it is. Even the most stable roms like NexusHD2 etc didnt work properly in beginning.
The point of these releases that have bugs is so that people can test, leave feedback etc and so dev can work on developing the build.
If you dont enjoy trying new builds, tweaking roms or generally playing with them you can stick to NexusHD2 but for the people like myself who do enjoy the whole process we have a choice.
I am currently running NilsP Business Sense 2.1/3.0 and i was wondering what performence hit i'd take if i plunged straight to 3.5? I used early 3.0 ROMS and they were painfully slow.. I was wondering if they were the same now.
My 3.0 rom is fast. Just doesn't sound like there's a whole lot more to a 3.5 than a 3.0 so I couldn't tell you my experiance as far as speed with 3.5.
Nils Business gingersense 3.0 v2.1
Sorry, but ALL Sense 3.x ROMs drag sorry ass on this device. There's no way to get around it. The software is just too muscular for the device. You end up with a crazy amount of vm being used, and since NAND memory is some pretty slow stuff, the lag becomes something best measured in full seconds.
^^ what he said.
and anyone who claims their 3.0/3.5 roms run "super fast" and "lag free" must never have run a stock incredible lol because the stock inc is how this phone is supposed to run (sense 1.0)...sense 3 is waaaaaaay too laggy. the one thing that always pissed me off is the notification dropdown menu lag. sometimes it would take up to 5 seconds for mine to drop down, even when i was just idling doing nothing. very annoying.
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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smtom said:
The 3.5`s are pretty, but sloooooww comparably. Even with nothing added application wise, and overclocked, they lag. No reflection on the (any) developer, it's literally bunches more software for the device to attempt to utilize, when it's built for less.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
I thought Joel's Sense 3.0 ROM on this was crazy fast. Then I used a 3.0 ROM on my inc2. Big difference. At the stock clock speed my phone still has no lag on my current 3.5 ROM.
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Well, I will point the finger a little at the devs. As usual, it seems like the push is only for the latest and greatest, neglecting the upkeep of decent older ROMs with older Sense versions. In the past that hasn't been a real problem, but with the advent of Sense 3.0, finding regularly updated 2.1 and older ROMs is hard. At some point they NEED to realize that this device isn't a dInc2, Tbolt, or EVO 3D and cut the crap with Sense 3.x+. Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 elements really is about as far as it should go.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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Love it!
But what's this about we don't upkeep our older Roms? I try to keep at least my Hybrid Speed update. I've had six Roms publicly ported and released. Hybrid Speed was my second Rom. In fact Hybrid was the most recently updated, even updated after my Desired Inc Rom. People are still using Hybrid Speed and still leave nice comments and send nice PM's about how they like it, so I guess I'm doing something right there. Thanks to everyone who showed support for me and my Roms as well!
I think a major part of rom development is with these updates and everything, we can work on them and fix them up until there almost flawless. Once we have done that, the development for that Rom is pretty much done. Depending on how far the developer wants to take his rom. Well mods and everything else. Most of the time what mods are in my Roms when I release them is actually how I use them and how I have my own set up. I like to leave everything else up to those people who just use the Roms.
One thing I've noticed. All the older Androider's tend to find a Rom/Dev they really like and they stick with it. At this point in the game they KNOW what they want in a Rom and what to expect from Roms currently on the board. All the new guys like to flash everything under the sun. Just proves that just because [insert name here] releases Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile doesn't mean its the best choice for everybody. Its just that though, another choice.
Until then everybody should just continue using what they like and keep reporting bugs and always try to leave feedback and comments about what they like/hate about the Roms they use.
Man, I hope nobody thinks I actually have or am trying to make a point here. I'm just thinking out loud as usual.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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I'm fairly dev-agnostic when it comes to ROMs these days. I'll check yours out. I seldom see the device for long periods of time but I've been flashing as many as I can looking for a good balance. I appreciate your input.
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Thanks.
Hope my nose doesn't turn to brown here, but I gotta say I always look forward to your comments and incite on things. Its always something good. I'm nervous that your gonna try my Rom even, lol. But for real I hope you like it. And as always, I look forward to your 'real' input on it.
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Tzatlacael said:
Well, I'm running on a 3.5 Sense Rom from SD card.
There was a huge eating of memory, until I installed AutoKiller which allows you to edit the limits of ram and on an aggressive profile, the Rom is now very well usable.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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Why would you run 3.5 from the SD? That's gotta be really slow. I'd probably run something like OMGB or CM from SD but leave 3.5 on the system.
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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I run it from the SD because I'm still figuring out how to install on NAND and I'm also unable to sync with my PC :S
So for now I'm at SD and its my daily ROM. Besides the DATA image is 1GB size and with that ran tweak, its very stable.
although I'd prefer it on NAND...
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Are you using Conap's Boot Manager?
I this k many of the left over issues present in these roms aren't necessarily the dev abandoning it, but rather they can't fix it, either because it would take too much time or they don't know how/can't figure it out. MMS over Wifi is a big one on the 2.1/3.0 hybrids. I've seen many devs try to fix it but they just can't.
Like Stang said, once a rom reaches Nearly Flawless state, which is everything is fixed minus the persistent issues across all similar based roms, its development is completed. These people don't get paid to sit for hours to make every little thing work on our phone.
I think this fact causes frustration among users, that life isn't kittens and rainbows and we can't have the latest and greatest working like a champ on our aging hardware. Its not the devs fault guys.
Choose CM7 or a sense 1.0 rom if you want stability and speed. Anything else will always have little issues that frustrate you.
As for me, I like to use one of these newer roms until I get frustrated by these little issues, then go back to CM7/1.0, then once I'm bored with that I go back to a newer sense rom... Rinse and repeat
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ok, so I'm running a 3.0 sense rom in the Nils rom I have. There is no lag between home sections. (I don't have the 3d tilt accelerometer feature on of course) and as for the pull down, I will agree, sometimes it does lag, but I hardly ever use the pull down anyway, and my case doesn't make it easy to pull down anyway. I usually go through the menu button/notifications to have the pull down come down. Other than that...what lag is this you speak of? I also don't run a live wallpaper very much in order to help out the battery life a little as well. So maybe thats where some lag people are speaking of is being caused?
Maybe its just me, but I'm not experiancing heavy lag with my 3.0 rom and I am even running the latest kernel. I will agree however, if you want the fastest most optimized rom for a dinc, then get a stock rom of course. But the 3.0 rom I'm running is running smooth.
I'm Running Nil's Sense 3.5, and I love it!!
(if you have tried other Roms, make sure you follow his whole wipe guide in his Sense 3.5 post 1)
I love the speed of this rom! If you are happy with 3.0, stick with it, but I love the way the email looks and works in 3.5 (it's a little snappier, and allows for more customization)
While his 3.0 was pretty fast, I find 3.5 to be just that much faster.
Plus, gets even faster if you use Tiny's Kernel!
but when you compare either 3.0 or 3.5 against 1.0... 1.0 just sucks!
wildstang83 said:
[insert name here] released Super Rom V.infinity which just so happens to be blend between iOS, Android, WM, webOS, whatever they call BB os, lol, and then finally BREW mobile.
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I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
PonsAsinorem said:
I searched everywhere and couldn't find it. Link, please?
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Sure its right here, lol--->
I'm using Nils 3.5, and while there is some lag here and there, its a good, stable, and fairly snappy ROM. I also have V6 Supercharger (way aggressive) and the GingerTiny kernel, and that helps.
Maybe I'm just not expecting as much...I knew it would be slower than stock, but I feel its worth it for the enhancements.
But, to each his (or her!) own.
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Hey guys if you dont know me I was a rom dev for the xperia but moved on to the DZ. HAven't yet made a rom for the DZ, yet.
But I have been flashing non-stop since i got this phone. Its just I can't decide what I should stick to, and what will match my needs.
So im a highschool student, calendars reminders are big for me and staying organized. I play basketball and watch it too so video and stuff is needed.
But Im also a dj/producer and i need the best sound. I also like to play games ocassionaly as well.
I really love Sense 3.0 but I cant handle the laggyness even with swap enabled, is there anything else that can be done? I was on virtuous 2.00 (sense 2.1) for 2 weeks it was stable and all, but the battery was pretty drainable fast. BlissBeatMod is promising if some of it can get less laggy. And we'll have to see what Virtuous Tretanique (Affinity) will go.
Aosp is nice and fast but I dont really get the nice looks and features that miui have to offer.
Miui is really nice im running BulletProof right now. But i still dont feel like its the "one". and the quality of music isnt as great on sense even with equalizer options on.
PLEASE TELL ME ANY SUGGESTIONS, ALL WILL BE APPRECIATED
i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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i personally have ILWT CM7... fast yet battery efficient... plus, there's alot of themes you can add to it so it can be visually good too
btw, i saw your work man! you are LEGEND!! i encourage you to make a ROM for us!
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Thanks a lot, once I decide what kind I will produce I will start.
Ok Im running ILWT. It is amazing. I put a theme on. Very fast. But still some reason it just seems "boring". And the sms app on aosp/cm7 isnt as sexy.
yea i know exactly where youre coming from, I always want a newer prettier ROM... I wish someone would release one that just didnt look like it was android almost, and not like iphone, or anything, something with an original GUI.. yes i realize that's a lot to ask btw and not something I would be able to do myself but I think it'd be cool and get a lot of support! In the mean time the one I've found to be the freshest for me is MIUI because of how the themes affect like everything and really the launcher is what catches my eye, im kinda excited for the ROU launcher
i used to use cm7 and miui before. cm7 is lightweight rom, smooth and has excellent battery life. but it is lack of killer feature such as in its sms functionality, the smart dialer and etc. of course you can always download apps from market for that functions but it takes forever to load those apps on startup.
so i moved to miui, which i am currently running with bulletproof miui rom. it is rich with functionality, ridiculously-convenient-built in-features and interfaces, but consume more battery compared to cm7 unless you made certain tweak on its OC/UC. but its interface lacks of originality because it is obviously a mimic of iOS. but so far i m happy using miui.
i want to try sense based rom, but from what i learned, sense based is laggy. i miss sense interface though. look clean.
OK, if you think cm7 is boring (and I agree) I suggest you give MexDroid a spin. It was my DD for quite some time. The only reason it's not anymore is because I found Bulletproof MIUI. but I'm sure you've already tried MIUI. if not. Tun4f1sh's Bulletproof is the ONLY one I recommend.
More options would be most welcome I'm sure. I'm trying to figure out how to port roms from hd forums at the moment. The collective's absolution looks pretty sweet.
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If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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If you use bootmanager (market app) you can install sense / miui and cyanogen at the same time... Only thing you have to do is seeting up the phonerom as sense (miui and cyanogen based mods run very smooth booting from sdcard)
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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Ya know what... forget what I said above, if this MixDroid thing happens I'll be happier than a /b/ troll.
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Neat, I like that idea. Kinda like having a nand backup without the pain of restoring everytime you want to switch.
I also champion Bulletproof, tun4 and tsubus seem to make sure this Rom stays a top contender. There is also talk of miXdroid Mod which is a miui meXdroid, looking forward to seeing how that one turns out
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MIUI is great, iv been runing Bulletproof, it's definitely unique miui whit its virtuos oc controller witch cough my eye. But now i got ICS fever on me, not for the isc gui but some of the features. I stumbled on Galnet MIUI whit ics framework. runing fine, tried it for couple days, and the batterylife seems fine, maybe. Ill stick to this since it seems to work, and hope for updates whit possibly some new ics features.(its still same MIUI ui and functionality)
after we get somewhat working ICS, i will try that a little, and propably get back to MIUI.
I'm on Bulletproof MIUI at the moment but since the iPhone-esque UI makes my eyes hurt I installed LPP and some icon pack (can't remember the name). That way I still have the looks of Android but can combine with the impressive speed and flow of the Bulletproof MIUI ROM.
CM 7.1 for me lacks a little bit of polish visually (can't wait for CM9!) compared to Sense based ROMs and IMO MIUI offers that. I like Sense but any Sense based ROM I've tried has started to get laggy on me after a while.
Bulletproof MIUI for the win...I also like good old Cyanogen too, but for a nice mix of speed AND looks MIUI is tops for me
Love the look of Sense, but too slow and laggy
Check my thread, i got a bunch of videos of roms and see which one you like the best
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19002986#post19002986
in this few days, i have been testing 3 sense 3.5 rom, beatmode, affinity and rcmix.
for someone who has a very sensitive sense like me, i cant stand to wait for the phone to response due to insufficient memory in sense 3.5.
its time to go back to miui bulletproof.
I have tried many of them. CM and MIUI is cool, I just miss too many features from sense. Sense 3.0 is either laggy or will get laggy after a while. So, I always go back to my Virtuous Sense 2.0.0 NAND backup.
But: question here: why is this draining the battery soooo badly? Apart from this, this could be THE perfect ROM.
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Sense is smooth and polished, but every custom Sense ROM that I have ever flashed is a battery hog, even the Sense 2.1 + 3.0 hybrids.
So my current favorite is G-lite 1.05 - it's like stock + overclocking + better than stock battery life (due to deep sleep)
I like sense and am currently running Virtuous Afinity but I can see me switching to an ASOP build of ICS when it's stable enough
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I have tried muiu, mexdroid, htc clay, g-lite, sense 2.0, unity sense and the affinity sense. I keep finding myself going back to the most stable, configurable and updated ROM ILWT CM7 (268).
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Curious to know what you like most about ILWT, especially compared with mexdroid and miui?
Has anyone seen this ? http://gizmodo.com/5889560/htc-sense-ui-was-bloated-and-cluttered
I take this as a big, Big, BIG chance towards a fully functioning, and most importantly - SMOOTH Sense One V port for our precious Desire Z which we all love.
What do you think? Do you expect awesomistic difference in performance compared to Sense 3.5 or do you think the difference will be minor, if at all?
I for one am very optimistic regarding this!
Huh that's interesting, good post!
yeah, i saw this before coming here, was going to post the same thing, lol. I agree with OP, i think this should make for a very nice and smooth port!! Looking forward to it
So, we should have a smooth one s port right? Since its debloated and runs with hardware acceleration, it should be smoother then sense 3.5
I think probably anything could be smoother and more usable than Sense 3.* on our devices xD. Sure, the UI transitions and animations and scrolling might be smooth, but no matter which Sense ROM you choose, there will always be a great deficit in app performance in comparison to AOSP, CM or MIUI ROMs.
Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*
As HTC said, Sense 4.0 is more about „personalizing” the devices, not about removing everything AOSP and redrawing it Sense-style.
I love HTC's new simple market strategy. From hardware to software. It really does justice to their motto - „Quietly Brilliant”!
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Either way though, i'm still hoping that we can get a smooth One V port *fingers crossed*
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here too
Sense 4.0 on DZ
I really doubt Sense 4.0 will run smoothly on our DZ. Even when i used many sense 3.5 roms on my DZ it starts lagging after some amount of time. Used SDcard swap, supercharger and all the tweaks but was never satisfied with the performance. But as per reviews HTC has really toned down Sense with ICS so lets hope for the best.
Well, I believe theoretically it is possible and I hope soon HTC will prove us again that it is possible even practically.
cant wait
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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It looks pretty. For some
dhkr234 said:
What would be nice is if they would nix all remnants of that sense crap. It doesn't add anything, it was 100% pure pain in the ass. Death by fire is what sense deserves, and everyone who promoted it, worked on it, or was in any way involved in the decision making regarding it, should be included.
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Don't be so harsh. I for one get why some of you love AOSP, but seriously, until ICS, AOSP sucked UI-wise. Although 4.0 solved many of the look problems, Sense still adds some cool functionality such as the configurable shortcut lockscreen, a cool music player, and the overall HTC feel that I personally love way more than AOSP or Miui or any other interface.
And believe me, I have tried practically each and every single ROM that I could get my hands onto, and I found myself going back to Sense, in any of it's incarnations ( 2.1, 3.0, 3.5) each and every time.
True, Sense 3.x feels bloated, but HTC said that they are basically going back to v2 with Sense 4.0, so I am looking forward to the new interface.
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Don't be so harsh.
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Seriously. With custom ROMs, you can get what you want, whether it be Sense, AOSP, or something else. And plenty of people like Sense. No need to get your panties all in a tangle, if you don't.
Hello my fellow flashing friends!
Is it me or is ICS a bit overrated ? I tried several ICS roms, and apart from the buggy (video)camera still I admit it's not bad, in fact yes, it's quite good and very smooth. But can anyone give me one good reason why a good ICS rom would be BETTER than a good GB ROM ?
Except for being able to "say" that you are running the latest android version, and a few other transition effects in ICS (ok I know there's a bit more to it but you know what I mean) I don't see what would make ICS the better choice over GB.
So far GB can do everything what ICS can do afaik, in the end probably even better (especially for us DHD users). So tell me your motivations why you would run an ICS rom and not a GB one ?
There are many excellent GB roms such as ARHD, CoreDroid, Runnymede, MIUI roms, CM7, etc that in the end imo outclass the ICS ones a bit still..
The only reason I can think of I'd flash an ICS rom for some while is to have something "different" again, but in the end I seem to get back to the good ol' GB everytime..
So tell me your motivations why you'd go for ICS rom or why for GB rom!
Lol, ICS hasn't even come officially to the DHD so you can't compare official GB and ported ICS, GB is going to be extinct once ICS comes offcially
ARHD for example, is official GB and that's way more smoother and performance/batterywise. So GB for now, ICS when it comes offcially
ICS roms are fully functional on DHD already apart of videocamera ofcourse.. But ok even if we take i.e. a Galaxy Nexus then, what's better about it than the DHD with a smooth GB rom ?
It's just something I am trying to figure out.
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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Right now using the CM9 rom ported by jcmaddox, with blackened ice theme + htc keyboard + working camera and videocamera (but this one lags a bit in 720p), feels pretty nice. But I'm a Sense addict so from the moment a Sense 4.0 rom is available with working camera I will go for that one probably.
ICS = new, nuff said.
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ICS = new, nuff said.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
if you just have to flash a rom as of today... gingerbread big time!
However, many ics innovations (and honeycomb) are developers side. ics brought many new cool features for developing much better applications. And if it's true that iOS fortune is its apps quality and variety, then android is moving in the right direction, giving developers a much better, and appealing environment to work in. So in a not too far future you'll need ics as minimum requirement to run the most cool applications on your android. And they are gonna kick ass, making of your phone an awesome device. till that day you can always stick with gingerbread . do not forget that gingerbread took over froyo as most used android operating system only in december (2011) so most of apps have been developed with that in mind so far. (backward compatibility etc...)
cheers!
personally, since switching to pics from GB, I couldn't imagine running another GB from as my daily. While ICS might not do anything particularly better than GB on the DHD or Inspire, it certainly seems to do all of the things nicer. Simple little features like folders and recent apps windows may not seem that important if you haven't used them, but once you get used to the interface, ICS aosp experience blows GB's out of the water in my opinion. Now if we're talking sense or some other manufacturer overlay it may not be the same, but as far as stock goes I LOVE ics
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
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I think you're probably right about the stock browser. It isn't quite as responsive as the GB one, but it seems to add some nice functionality. The main shortcoming for me though (and I say this quietly) is the camera, or lack thereof. Will get fixed in due course.
Overall, ICS is actually better than I expected.
Maxy
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I was an avid user of ARHD before I switched to IceColdSandwich, now I can't turn back. ICS is smoother, faster and has essentially doubled my battery usage from barely a day to two full days.
I tried the One X ports but they have a terrible battery life and lack AOKP's features. ATM I couldn't be happier with ICS.
ICS is great but then there are a few limitation when you try to get ICS on our phone. ICS is fast, smooth and even better with battery but then a GB ROM would probably give you more functional phone.
Basically depends upon whether you can live without those few features. I f you can ICS should be the way to go. There's a slight catch though DHD isnt really the latest of all devices, so devs would concentrate on the development of ROMs for the new devices. (Lord and Twisted both have moved out DHD ICS development scene but there are still a few great devs working), so regular updates would come less often.
and GB is mature and stable (with almost no updates required).
Yeah the stability is a big issue for me as well, my GPS was working perfectly til I switched over to Ice Cold Sandwich on my DHD.
Although I was able to fix it using a patch, I find GB roms have less problems in the internal side of things...
No doubt ICS feels nicer to have on your phone though
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Google Chrome support, folders, smoother, optimized, easier to use. Nuff said
Not to forget HID Support with BT and with Sense
I find that ICS has more to offer feature wise, however I am new to this and haven't had the chance to test many GB ROMs.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
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gimme one reason to choose GB over ICS when sense 4 is fully ported to DHD...
Ics has a lot of new features and is worth it. But i don't see why you made this thread if your shooting down peoples opinions on the matter
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