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HTC screwed up my refund, suggestions?

Hi all. So I bought my Nexus One near the end of June, but shortly after that, I decided to return the phone to get a refund as it's defective. I called them and they sent me a shipping label, but at that time I was not in town so I wasn't able to ship the phone back with the first shipping label. Then I called them, they sent me another one and this time I sent it back( bought another used one afterward).
It has been more than 1 month since I sent my phone back to HTC. But I still haven't received any refund, nor have they contacted me. So I've been calling them for more than 2 weeks, inquiring this issue and it has been escalated 3 times already to their escalation department. The representatives told me they were still waiting for the respond from them. But so far I still haven't got any respond from them after the 2 weeks.
Since it has been too long to a ridiculous level, I'm thinking to contact my bank to initiate a chargeback. Any suggestions, guys?

Charge back isn't a bad idea. My experience with the escalation department is that they are slow and always require at least 2 additional calls.
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hbkmog said:
Hi all. So I bought my Nexus One near the end of June, but shortly after that, I decided to return the phone to get a refund as it's defective. I called them and they sent me a shipping label, but at that time I was not in town so I wasn't able to ship the phone back with the first shipping label. Then I called them, they sent me another one and this time I sent it back( bought another used one afterward).
It has been more than 1 month since I sent my phone back to HTC. But I still haven't received any refund, nor have they contacted me. So I've been calling them for more than 2 weeks, inquiring this issue and it has been escalated 3 times already to their escalation department. The representatives told me they were still waiting for the respond from them. But so far I still haven't got any respond from them after the 2 weeks.
Since it has been too long to a ridiculous level, I'm thinking to contact my bank to initiate a chargeback. Any suggestions, guys?
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HTC's customer service is nice, but their warehouse is horrible.
Next time you call them, ask to speak to a supervisor directly. Make sure you let him/her contact you frequently about your issue, and make sure you write down his/her name for future reference.

Yeah, I have been contacting them for more than 2 weeks. Actually it's the 3rd time they report to the escalation center. I'm very unhappy with their lousy effeciency. Reps are nice and kind, but there's nothing they can do. And they don't have a number or email so that I can't contact the repair/refund/warehouse directly.
So far since I returned my phone in mid July, I still haven't got my $600 back.

Keeps calling, keeps escalating, keep bugging them if you can wait. If you can't wait, need the money or have just had enough initiate a chargeback and forget about it.

Ugh, good luck. As a CSR with a completely different company that works with electronics, it always seems as warehouses are as slow as molasses. I agree with kam187. Do what you need to do man.

Chargeback. This is why it exists.

Okay. I will call them tomorrow for the last time. If they still can't get things right. I will start the chargeback process. I've never done it before, so hopefully it will go smoothly.

[Horror Story] How HTC is so incompetent and ridiculous. Show your support!

Hello everyone, this is my horror story that began on June the 30th of 2010 and is still ongoing.
All for a swap of my defective HTC Nexus One phone.
I request that you please show your support as the only way we can ensure something like this doesnt happen again is to band together.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=120012004718856&v=wall
Here is the story:
I had arranged for my nexus one which had started to accumulate dust underneath its screen to be replaced by HTC. When I received the replacement, the unit had a faulty screen, power button and the battery cover would not fit properly. As a result, I filed a complaint online and received a call back from an agent who advised my that a replacement can be set up for the DEFECTIVE REPLACEMENT UNIT that I had received.
I told her that I would like to go ahead with that, but I'm currently busy and need the device and I would appreciate it if she could call me back on the 25th of August to set up a replacement. She agreed and scheduled me for a call back.
I ended up not needing my device for as long as I had anticipated and called in myself on the 14th of August to set up the replacement myself and had it arranged. I shipped the defective unit and according to the details from FedEX the unit was received on the 24th of August at the repair facility. The previous agent did STILL give me a call back on the 25th of August. She confirmed with me that she saw on the notes for my case that I had called in and had the replacement set up, and if I was satisfied. I told her yes, I have sent in the defective unit and am just waiting for my new unit to come back to me. This was on the 25th of August.
Two weeks later, I called in to HTC and inquired about the status of my phone as I had received no notification or my new device. I was advised that for some reason, my previous ticket was CLOSED AND DISCARDED. ***WITHOUT A REPLACEMENT UNIT BEING SENT BACK TO ME***
Since that date, I have been calling HTC almost EVERY SINGLE DAY, speaking to supervisors after supervisors, who have ALL promised me call backs but have NEVER called me back (for the exception of ONE SINGLE PATHETIC PHONE CALL, to advise me that Britney, a supervisor at the call center, had NO information for me).
I have since called in almost every day, and EVERY SINGLE DAY I have been promised a call back from a manager, or Upper management, but HTC has failed to deliver EVERY single time.
I have been lied to by agent after agent, and supervisor after supervisor, and what is even more sad is that I still have NO INFORMATION about the status of my device after an astounding MONTH AND A HALF.
I have spoken to agents by the following names at the call center:
Chardene
Chantelle
Christopher
Daniella
and 3 others whose name I cannot remember
Supervisors by the following names:
Nicole
Daniella
Pamela
and two others whose names I cannot recall at this time.
EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE AGENTS HAS PROMISED ME CALL BACKS EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE CALLED. AND I HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED MORE THAN ONE CALL BACK (FROM BRITNEY, who is supposedly working on my case, who did not even speak to me, but left me a message on a phone number that I specifically asked *on at least 5 occassions* to not call me at).
HTC has absoloutely dissappointed me.
The following are my case numbers that were created by HTC that are relevant to this issue:
10CAC37***124 - This is a repair ticket which was created WITHOUT MY CONSENT, and I was advised by Chantelle, that the reason this was created was due to the fact that a unit cannot be in HTC's posession unless there is a ticket created. They told me not to worry about it
10CAD3****0107 - this ticket number is the replacement that was setup for my DEFECTIVE REPLACEMENT DEVICE and WAS DISCARDED WITHOUT A NEW DEVICE BEING SENT BACK TO ME
10CAD2****0073 - this ticket number was created for the defective unit which had dust underneath its screen, and was to be replaced originally with a WORKING unit.
The serial number for my device that was sent in is: HT03TP9**153
The serial number for the defective replacement device which was sent back is: HT03TP9**136
HTC promises to its customers that once a defective device has been received, a new replacement device will be shipped out the NEXT business day. Clearly, these are all lies. Not only have HTC displayed incompetency in helping out a PAYING customer, but they have LIED on many occasions to their customer.
I even called the corporate head office and left a message on the voice machine about this issue, but did not receive a call back. Hopefully, this will now get sorted out.
The original defective device was set up to be replaced on the 30th of June, 2010 and it is now September 2010 and we are still nowhere.
(Sept 20th) last time i spoke to them was on Monday, I was supposed to get a call back from upper management of the call centre on that day, but of course, that was another lie. So i called in myself and asked to speak to someone.
ended up speaking to a supervisor who claimed that she promises first hand that someone WILL call me back by the end of the day today (monday), and what do you know. today is wednesday and still no information, no call backs and im sure ill be on the phone with them again shortly to figure out whats going on now
UPDATE #1: On the 22nd of September I called in again and spoke to a supervisor first, then I was told im being transferred to a manager. When I was transferred, it was another supervisor, who said management isnt available.
End of the conversation resulted in the promise of a call back after Ms. Simpson would speak to her MANAGER, Krishana, and would call me TODAY before the end of her shift at 10 PM EST. BEfore i hung up, I told her i would gladly wait for management on hold all day and she told me that something like that is not possible. She PROMISED me that she would call me back, 100% for sure and let me know what happened.
And well, no call back, nothing at all.
UPDATE #2: September 23rd, I got an email from Google's android team and was advised that they followed up with HTC for me and if i do not hear back in 72 hours that I should call them.
This was after I submitted a complaint to google's online systems.
the saga continues.
Update #3 from September 23rd: I called in at 10:00 PM at night and asked to speak to Daniella Simpson (the supervisor who had promised to call me back) right away.
After speaking to an agent first, when I was transferred to her, she said shes sorry for not calling me back, but she got busy. She said that she had a lot of things to do, and that she was going to call me back today and how I was the first name on her list of things to do. *YEA RIGHT* Its 10 PM and she was thinking of giving me a call back now?
She told me that she emailed her superior Mr. Harris about the whole case, and he emailed the repair center. She said I should hear back today from them for sure.
That was it. I told her about how Google had contacted me and she basically said that she will forward the concerns to Mr. Harris.
and on we go
update sept 25th: so after not hearing back on Friday or today, i decided to call in and figure out if anything new had happened.
when i called i spoke to an agent named Gary, he said no supervisors are available and no managers either. Just out of curiosity i aksed him to check the notes for my account, and he goes, they were updated today last.
they read "device shipped" and had a tracking number. So no one called me back, no info from anyone, no tracking numbers before i had called in, and i don't know what they are shipping back.
talk about irresponsible. we'll i guess ill find out in a few days what happened and ill keep you all updated
follow the facebook group for up to the minute updates and information. I will keep you all updated

hmm i think this is the case where you need your IMEI & S/N number and go to the police ...

Credit card issuer...

Damn, that is horrible service. I'd take them to court if I were you, sounds like you've gathered more than enough evidence to do so.

****ers. Tell them that you refuse to hang up without an answer. Tell them that the next phone call is to the CC company and the police.
Can't wait to hear how this unfolds...

im on the phone with them as we speak. and im speaking to another supervisor.
she tells me that we have no info, and promises me again that someone will call me back as soon as possible.
i advise her that no one has called me back until now, why should i believe you now? she says because she is a different person *BULL*****
so now ive asked to speak to a call center manager and am now on hold waiting to speak to them.
just to advise you guys that in the past, ive also been put on hold to speak to management but everytime they come back after 10-15 minutes and say "oh im sorry, but he/she isnt available, and will call you back" but i dont get anything.
this time shes actually tranferring me, lets see what happens.
i will keep you posted.

mixxy said:
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she tells me that we have no info, and promises me again that someone will call me back as soon as possible...
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With the IMEI they know exactly what happend with your phone ..

I just Googled this and it seems like a common problem with the Nexus One customer support. Look here, someone else had a very similar thing happen and one of the replies said "Another one of these. Seems a huge number of phones are going missing."

Post it on one of there tweeter pages

ok, so i just got off the phone with them.
the supervisor did NOT transfer me to management, but to a higher supervisor; one i had spoken to before (on Friday, the 17th of Sept). She told me upper management would have called me back on Monday, but of course they didnt, and then when i called back on monday another supervisor told me upper management would call me back.
okay, on to today. so i spoke to daniella simpson a higher level supervisor who said that NO ONE from upper management was available to speak to me and that no updates were received. After complaining for about one hour and going over with her about details after details, she basically told me she'd call me back today.
when i told her ill gladly wait on hold all day, she said she cant do that because she is the only supervisor on duty.
will keep u guys posted.
if you can, please show your support by joining the facebook group or relaying the story to anywhere you can. I'm hoping to get media attention to finally get this handled because nothing else is working.
and i know i can file a dispute with my cc company, but that would take even longer.

no bueno You will reach a point where you have to assess if the time you are spending is worth not just buying a new phone and washing your hands of the entire situation. I know it's the principal and such but everyone's time is worth a certain amount to them...I hope you find recourse before your reach the end of your limit dealing with this.
Sounds like you are going the distance though...best of luck!!

sorry you got shuffled.
the energy spent on this endeavor would be much better tossed at anything else. do a charge back on your cc and move on.
(shrug)

I bricked one of my Nexus Ones after one click rooting. I tried to flash a theme as a ROM...oops. Since I have two Nexus Ones I just decided to send it in to HTC and see what happens rather than get frustrated fixing it myself. I shipped it off and it was back in my hand in six days working great.
Sorry you are having such a difficult time...makes me feel lucky. I have to say I was very happy with HTC service tho. They even emailed me an overnight prepaid shipping label and my Nexus One was shipped off an hour after I called them.

deprecate said:
no bueno You will reach a point where you have to assess if the time you are spending is worth not just buying a new phone and washing your hands of the entire situation. I know it's the principal and such but everyone's time is worth a certain amount to them...I hope you find recourse before your reach the end of your limit dealing with this.
Sounds like you are going the distance though...best of luck!!
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i already purchased a samsung galaxy s, and yes ur right it is the principle
had i been working fulltime right now i would not have put this much time into this, but i guess graduating from uni and applying to jobs for a few weeks has its benefits during the down time.
i said the same thing to the high level supervisor, and said had i had a full time job, what would the outcome of this case be?
mind u i paid 676 dollars for this device shipped to my door, and being a student, that kind of money is not easy to come by

If it were me, I would keep calling back. Hang up, and call right back. Just keep pissing them off the same way they're pissing you off.

rickytenzer said:
If it were me, I would keep calling back. Hang up, and call right back. Just keep pissing them off the same way they're pissing you off.
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haha well i cant sink to that level because it gets me nowhere, and it'll be more time consuming on my part than theirs who just have to answer the calls.
im going to try to issue a charge back with my credit card company soon. lets c. i told them id wait until friday

I'm still waiting for my replacement. I did my cc "authorization" sat morning.... no email sent for shipping (did get a return label email though). I finally called today, and the lady said she would "email" the warehouse for shipping.... lol.

why not check up on the tracking number to see where your phone is, if the phone is signed and recieved its not your problem what so ever, call up htc, give them the tracking number and tell them to do something about it.
my experience with htc is very good, im quite surprised that they pull this kinda of bs on you.
gl with that

This is happening to me as we speak... mmrrraaa **** HTC right?

vvaffles said:
why not check up on the tracking number to see where your phone is, if the phone is signed and recieved its not your problem what so ever, call up htc, give them the tracking number and tell them to do something about it.
my experience with htc is very good, im quite surprised that they pull this kinda of bs on you.
gl with that
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Mine has never been that great. W/ my Kaiser, HTC wouldn't he'll because it wasn't a US tilt. With my xperia x1a, went back and forth between Sony and HTC(fixed problem myself). Judging by emails, i'm guessing that ht c's websites work is based somewhere out of the united states. My emails have such weird syntax that it reminds me of the commercial that says : this is Peggy!

Sony X10 Customer Service nightmare

I wanted to share with people my worst customer service experience ever.
I recently bought an x10 off of someone online and the in-call speaker (ear piece) started acting inconsistent. It would get quiet frequently and was very hard to hear. And yes, I’m aware there is an issue with the level of sound these things produce.
Since I bought it off of someone I couldn’t return it through the service provider. I called Sony Ericsson (SE) and they told me that the repair should be covered under my warranty. So, they gave me an RMA number and an address of the service centre in Newmarket, Ontario to send it to. The place was Flextronics – Canada.
I was told that I would have the phone back within 10 business days, and that someone would contact me if there was any issues.
After 2 weeks, I called SE several times to get an update and received the rudest reps ever. They all gave me this attitude as if i was bothering them.. One rep said it was coming, while the other told me Flextronics had sent me an email with a quote.
A little upset, I asked why because I thought it was covered under warranty. She didn’t know, so gave me the number to Flextronics.
So, I started calling Flextronics to see what was up. Every time I dialled the extension for SE service department, it would ring twice, beep, and then hang up. So, I started calling other departments in the company and the they just transferred me right back, and I would get disconnected again. Then, I dialled 0 and got the operator, who was almost as rude as the SE reps, and told me to call SE for any updates. I told her I was sick of this back and forth, and can I please talk to someone. So she forwarded me to a supervisor. I left a message, and waited a few days and received no call or email back.
Frustrated, I called SE back and told them my situation. The rep this time was nice, and said he would make note and look into it for me and someone would contact me within 24 hrs.
I waited a two more days, and nothing.
I called Flextronics again, and went through the exact same process. And then nothing.
Called SE back again, this time they told me they can’t do anything until I reply to Flextronics’ quote they sent me. I told them I haven’t received anything from them and have been desperately trying to get a hold of someone there. This rep then said he will escalate it to a supervisor.
Again, a few days passed and nothing.
I called SE back and demanded to speak to a supervisor. The rep was being very rude and tried to avoid the situation. She finally caved and put me on hold for at least 5 minutes. I spoke to a supervisor who was just as rude as her reps and took another 5 min looking into my file, and asked me the same verifying questions again. She told me that the policy states the repair is not covered under warranty because of physical damage.
I told her that this was ridiculous bc the phone was in near mint condition. The only physical damage was that there was a tiny crack in the very bottom left corner of the screen that isn’t even close to the call speaker. And when I say the crack is small, I mean small. It was more like a deep scratch.
Anyway, after trying to defend that the crack had nothing to do with why I brought my phone in for repair, she told me it was up to the repair centre. I said, fine. At this point I just want my phone back. She said she will relay the message.
Waited some more, and then nothing.
I repeated this process for 2 more weeks.
The reps kept telling me that the situation would be taken care of and that the case was escalated. Some reps even told me that the escalations were never processed properly. Arrgghh...
After almost reaching the 5 week mark, I left a desperate message with Flextronics and SE practically begging for my phone back.
There is an obvious discrepancy between the communication between SE and Flextronics.
Finally, after 5 weeks someone actually called me from Flextronics!!!
He explained to me why I had to pay for the repairs. Even though he agreed with me, he said that due to the relationship with SE they can’t fix the speaker unless they fix everything! Including cosmetic stuff!
F’n ridiculous.
He asked if I wanted to try and call SE and dispute this with him. LOL. I was like no way, just give me my phone back.
He said they’ll ship it today and i will receive it tmrw. Let’s see what happens....
Because of this nightmare of the poor quality of the device itself, I will never ever buy another SE smartphone again!!!

i have to say thats a nightmare. i am so sorry that happened to u. i hope this doesnt happen to u again. thanks for the warning about se though. thats people i dont want to deal with. i hope u have better experiences with smartphones.
Sent from XDA Premium from my X10a rooted running 2.3.2 gingerbread rom from rdannar

Here in Austria the SE-CCAs (sitting in Germany) are very nice and competent.
The only thing is, when you bring something in for repair, they always just flash the firmware first and send it back to you so you have to bring it in again, however the snd attempt always worked.
And CC in the US are by principle a nightmare and rude. In the best case they are nice but dont get what you want, because they just hang to their conversation script and dont listen.
On the other side I dont want to know what BS they have to listen to every day.

Quote Sony Erisson"Make it believe"...This's the way of SE treating their customer and provide the poor quality of the products,slow update of firmware and iresponsibility after-sales service.My X10 had been sent to the service centre for changing the motherboard which caused the reboot loop more than 1 month ago but i don't have any news whether it's getting the job done or not.My phone's still under the warranty and i think the warranty would be gone after i take back.Somemore,the xperia arc's coming out soon but i consider Samsung Galaxy S2 which's more powerful with dual core processor.I won't drop into the trap of Sony Erisson anymore...

Update: Failed to deliver once again. Phone has still not been returned as promised by Flextronics. Arrrgghhhh

That sucks for you OP, I would raise hell if I were you, you gotta treat them the same way they treat you to get **** done.
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OP, if I was you, I'd punch those idiots in the face
So, the argument that says "only 10% of SE consumers, you guys, complain against SE 'cause lack of Android upgrades but the 90% of ppl don't care and love SE" dies here. Im pretty sure that 90% of people wouldn't 'love' SE thanks to things like this, no matter if they want Android 2.2/2.3 or not.
I repeat one-more-time: SE, NEEDS to WORK in the human part.

Oh.. I know all about Flexitronics/SE issue. My Phone stopped charging and I sent it into repairs. I too got the runaround and had to be calling in contantly to get any type of headway.
I was informed I would get callbacks, which I never got. Hell they even said I would get a gift for all my trouble - nothing.
My advice is to get someone from Flex and DON'T HANG UP. Refuse to disconnect the call until you talk to a supervisor. Be Polite and never swear - just tell them to put you on hold until a supervisor can speak to you. This will destroy the Rep's Call time stats and they shouldn't be able to just hang-up on you as you have not done anything to warrant such an action.
Good Luck!
Here is my situation with them:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8396874&postcount=48
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8574507&postcount=53
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8593403&postcount=55
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8611836&postcount=59

Yeah dude sorry to hear about that situation, I hope whatever company you buy from next has better service than that.
You didn't mention it on your post, But did they tell you that they have a FLAT FEE OF $185 FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGE? yep, no matter how small that scretch is they'll probably shove that down your throat.
I had my run in with SE Service, luckily for me I had a tad better outcome.
Check out my situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12075634#post12075634

Thepuffytaco said:
Oh.. I know all about Flexitronics/SE issue. My Phone stopped charging and I sent it into repairs. I too got the runaround and had to be calling in contantly to get any type of headway.
I was informed I would get callbacks, which I never got....]
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Yeah, they are the worst.
Update: On Friday, March 11, a rep from Flextronics called me, same guy who I spoke to previously. He actually said "I recognized your voice so I don't need to speak to you."
Before he said goodbye I demanded to know where my phone was bc he promised I'd have it on Thur, March 10.
His reply was, oh well, if you don't receive it by Monday, call us back. WTF?
Any way, I finally got my phone back UNFIXED.
Long story short:
- Sony Ericsson and Flextronics' customer service sucks
- almost 7 weeks without my X10a, only to get it back UNFIXED

darkgoth678 said:
Yeah dude sorry to hear about that situation, I hope whatever company you buy from next has better service than that.
You didn't mention it on your post, But did they tell you that they have a FLAT FEE OF $185 FOR PHYSICAL DAMAGE? yep, no matter how small that scretch is they'll probably shove that down your throat.
I had my run in with SE Service, luckily for me I had a tad better outcome.
Check out my situation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12075634#post12075634
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They quoted me $108 to fix the screen, so a lot cheaper than $185. But, I refused out of frustration and principle. I bet even if they had fixed the screen and speaker, I'd still have speaker problems.
Good job on your self-repair btw. I would be too nervous to take any tools to my phones. Bad experience in the past. lol

Looks like SE approved service centers are the same, no matter the country. I sent mine 2 times already because of issues related to the USB connector in the phone (not charging and not having stable USB connection via cable). Got it back 2 times fixed partially, now it charges but the connections still is worthless.
So my sympathy goes to you

Dont Buy a Sony Erisson! 35 weeks in repair only to be returned unfixed
I had the same issue Tase.
Im still very annoyed. Im reporting them to the better business bureau as their service is beyond a joke.
I got two X10s. One for my gf and one for me. Her USB port died after a few months so it went back for repair and they swapped it for a reconditioned model.
Mine died after about 9 months went back and got swapped for a reconditioned model which i wasn't really thrilled about. Weeks later my reconditioned model failed. The phone started just turning itself off and dropping calls until finally it wouldn't even come back on.
I work in my home office and my phone is either in my pocket or on my desk so nothing has ever happened to it plus i had it in the plastic protective bumper case as well.
I sent this phone back in April! I waited for a few weeks and kept getting the run around so in the end i said forget it and went and changed phone providers and got a Samsung Galaxy SG2. I didnt want to pay Rogers $50 to use some old piece of crap when i had paid for a Smart phone.
Anyway i still continued to contact them trying to get an idea when it was coming back. I got told the same as you. "Its been escalated" etc.
Another time the guy said he had no idea why it was taking so long and didnt have any idea where the phone was or what was happening. He promised me a call which i never received. I didnt experience any rudeness but every time i waited on hold for ages and was occasionally cut off whilst on hold.
I finally got the phone back this week unfixed! That's what? About 35 WEEKS?!!!!!!
Absolutely ridiculous! How does it take 35 weeks to do that?
Their excuse is that the USB port is broken and they have said this is physical damage and its not covered.
They must have baboons running the place!
I did not break it, the usb is just crap because they cheaped out and is a known problem with the phone. That wasnt the issue anyways. It wont turn on! I can put a fully charged battery in it and it still does not turn on!
The repair centre are a joke. I should have known better. We had two C510a's before this and when they both broke at exactly the same time (due to needing a system update!) and were both sent back mine was sent back unrepaired stating liquid damage when the thing has never been anywhere near liquid. I fixed it myself in 2mins using the proper update software not the pre bundled crap the phone comes with.

I don't know but they works fine in my country. Bring it and they will replace mainboard or even a phone for you such as can't charge... . However, I think the reason is the Flextronic. Also, you should check the phone before buy it from another guy. There must be something wrong so he sells it. And you have to check carefully.

They are pretty renowned for their poor customer service. Check the arc forum to see what I'm talking about

I had similar experiences with Samsung. It can take ages before you get your phone back. Besides, the people in the service centers have no idea what they are talking about.
Just an example. Here they quote that the Galaxy Nexus is a Google device and when you have questions you should contact.......MICROSOFT.......
Microsoft would be the owner of the OS and responsible for firmware updates

maddes1402 said:
I had similar experiences with Samsung. It can take ages before you get your phone back. Besides, the people in the service centers have no idea what they are talking about.
Just an example. Here they quote that the Galaxy Nexus is a Google device and when you have questions you should contact.......MICROSOFT.......
Microsoft would be the owner of the OS and responsible for firmware updates
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TROLLOLOLOL.
Or maybe cat got its tongue (or something like that)?

I have had 0 issues with flextronics, but I am often in Newmarket and I just drop in and ask them the progress .. they are not able to hang up if you are standing right there. Was this a x10a or the x10i?

Darth Glacious said:
Looks like SE approved service centers are the same, no matter the country. I sent mine 2 times already because of issues related to the USB connector in the phone (not charging and not having stable USB connection via cable). Got it back 2 times fixed partially, now it charges but the connections still is worthless.
So my sympathy goes to you
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Ah ah ah, not so fast. I have gotten my x10 replaced free of charge not once, but twice for motherboard related problems in the US. I was under warranty and they respected that. After sending number one in for repair they told me that they would rather replace the device as opposed to reparing the damaged one. They sent me a brand new x10. This lasted about a month before it too began to experience random massive overheating, reboots and eventual failure to charge, boot or respond to any input whatsoever. Say what you want, but I have two x10s and a fully charged battery from the one that never had to be replaced didn't work in the damaged phone either. Anyway I called se up again. Of course I was still under warranty, so they replaced it again. This time I got a device that performs admirably, taking the highest overclocks I can throw at it with custom kernels.
This experience has not impressed me with the general build quality of the x10, but it showed me that at least some reps from se are interested in customer satisfaction.
Then again, maybe they outsourced to some of willy wonka's oompa loompa's!
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Companies almost never hold up their side of the warranty sadly =(. I actually find apple to be one of the better places for customer service . Anyhow i usually just contact Better business bureau if they don't do what they say they'll do. They sort things out for you . One of my friends said just threatening to use BBB works too lol.

Atrix Repair Runaround

Alright guys, I thought I'd share my my experience with Motorola's repair department. The reasons I sent my phone in were because the screen had some areas that had backlight bleeding and the MicroSD card reader didn't work.
When I first called, I was told by AT&T and Motorola customer representatives that once the phone was received by them, it would be shipped back out in two business days. Alright I happily agreed to that and opened an RMA because I needed my phone back as soon as possible. So it was opened and I sent my phone in.
The device was then received on the 4th.
I called in on the 7th to ask if it was shipped, and they said it would actually take 15 business days to ship! I was like what?! I was told two days by the other two representatives. I was then told to call back on a weekday as the repair department was closed.
I called again on the tenth to see the status of the repair and they said it should be shipped 5-7 business days from when the device was received. But I still couldn't talk to the repair department because I had called after they had closed.
I called in the next day, and they said that it would be shipped on the twelth, which was the day after.
I then called in on the 12th to make sure it was shipped, the representative said that the device should have shipped but the online repair status just hadn't updated yet and it should be updated by tonight.
I check today to see if the status has been updated, and guess what, no change, all it says is device received. So I call to make sure the device has shipped. Now I talk to a representative that says that it will actually be shipped on the 16th and he has no idea why the other three representatives said it would be shipped on the 12th. I ask to speak to a supervisor and I get transferred. I asked her why I've been given tons of different (and seemingly wrong) information by different representatives and what is really happening. I tell them that this is getting ridiculous and I have had to reschedule two train tickets and I've lost over $90 dollars because of false information I have received. The supervisor literally is speechless, all she says is please call back Monday.
What I'm wondering is that has anyone else had this kind of experience with Motorola? Or is it just bad luck on my end. And if this continues, is there anything I can do.

Wow that sounds pretty bad. How come you didn't just take the phone in to an AT&T store? My previous Atrix had a dead spot on the touchscreen so I took it back to the AT&T store. They looked at it and called an AT&T repair center so I can pick up a new Atrix that very same day. Sorry to hear about your situation, hope it gets sorted soon.
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I forgot to mention I actually did go to an AT&T store. They were the ones that suggested calling AT&T and Motorola and the first ones to say that it would be shipped out two days after it was received. I had the option of going to an AT&T repair center but the closest one was an hour away so I decided to do it by sending it in.

I know AT&T used to offer warranty swaps by overnight shipment, which ususally meant getting an advanced exchange in one or two days. This was on HTC TP2s and similar phones but I think they still offer the same service if you complain about going to an exchange center.

I had the same problem with AT&T when I was on the Inspire...I pitched a big enough fit and had the retention people upgrade me to the Atrix. Best thing I can tell ya to do from my own experience would be to call the main customer care number and raise hell about the time and money you have lost...Have them.credit your account for the service and such ...it's not much but it does help a little bit.
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Bob Simons said:
I know AT&T used to offer warranty swaps by overnight shipment, which ususally meant getting an advanced exchange in one or two days. This was on HTC TP2s and similar phones but I think they still offer the same service if you complain about going to an exchange center.
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Oh dam, I wish I had known about that earlier.
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I had the same problem with AT&T when I was on the Inspire...I pitched a big enough fit and had the retention people upgrade me to the Atrix. Best thing I can tell ya to do from my own experience would be to call the main customer care number and raise hell about the time and money you have lost...Have them.credit your account for the service and such ...it's not much but it does help a little bit.
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Hm... I'm gonna give that a try, thanks.

I've had devices swapped out, and all I did was call the main AT& T tech support number. This was on several Captivates and once on my wife's Inspire, although we found out after the Inspire didn't need it (unknown sources update problems).
In all cases I was offered an overnight shipping option at a small fee. I opted out, and in all cases my replacement was here within 3 days. Swap info, send old one back, done.
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I'm really sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. I actually had a similar problem with my phone regarding the screen burn image and went to the device support center. They were out of stock for a replacement Atrix but the associate placed an order for an overnight shipment. I was in possession of two phones at one time and had to agree to ship the defective one out within 14 days before facing a charge of $399. Anyway, I really appreciated the fact that I was never without a phone and the phone came in the next day and I shipped out my defective unit the day after.
They probably need to retrain the customer support reps to know the proper course of action for certain situations such as out of stock or too far of a location so that you are offered overnight shipping of a replacement.
One more question for the OP: were you expecting to get your same unit back? You said it was sent in for repair service so I'm wondering why you agreed to that instead of just swapping it out since you are still covered under the 1 year warranty.

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I'm really sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. I actually had a similar problem with my phone regarding the screen burn image and went to the device support center. They were out of stock for a replacement Atrix but the associate placed an order for an overnight shipment. I was in possession of two phones at one time and had to agree to ship the defective one out within 14 days before facing a charge of $399. Anyway, I really appreciated the fact that I was never without a phone and the phone came in the next day and I shipped out my defective unit the day after.
They probably need to retrain the customer support reps to know the proper course of action for certain situations such as out of stock or too far of a location so that you are offered overnight shipping of a replacement.
One more question for the OP: were you expecting to get your same unit back? You said it was sent in for repair service so I'm wondering why you agreed to that instead of just swapping it out since you are still covered under the 1 year warranty.
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Sending it in for repair was my only option. They told me if I went to the place an hour away I would have to drop my unit off and pick it up two days later.
EDIT: So I thought that it would be easier to just send it in instead of having to drive that far.

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Sending it in for repair was my only option. They told me if I went to the place an hour away I would have to drop my unit off and pick it up two days later.
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Wow. So even at the physical place that was an hour away, they couldn't just swap it out? That is so strange. We are talking about an official AT&T Device Support Center, right?

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Wow. So even at the physical place that was an hour away, they couldn't just swap it out? That is so strange. We are talking about an official AT&T Device Support Center, right?
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Yep, at least thats what the guy at the store told me.

So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.

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So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.
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That was actually something I was thinking about doing. Also I did go to the BBB site but Motorola wasn't on the list, should I put it down with AT&T?
EDIT: Oh and nothing to assist me, AT&T and Motorola said I should be able to get a temporary phone while this repair was going on but I was completely denied.

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So what are they currently doing to assist you? Are you just forced to be without a phone? I would seriously place a complaint with the BBB and with AT&T customer service. Not sure if it will help much but just to document the case at least.
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Alright I just called AT&T and they actually gave me a 65 dollar credit, which is half of my bill. THANK YOU very much for that bit of advice. Also They also said that I should call back tomorrow when the warranty center is open and they should be able to help escalate this issue further. As for the BBB complaint, if AT&T helps me out even further then I'll let it go but otherwise I'll file a complaint.

I sent my atrix to motorola also for repair got it back in 3 days unrepaired so i called them and said the water mark is still white she when on to say it could be caused by humidity i freaked and said so all the atrixs that are in texas right now are going to be void because texas has had triple digit reading for well over a month she was dumb founded and said let me escalate this higher sent me an overnight label and they have now had it for 9 days so who knows if it gets fixed this time they have the worst rating in customer service and repair...This will be my last Motorola phone

Sorry for your bad luck. Generally moto makes good hardware. All companies have lemons. What is sad is moto falls under the list of companies with general bad repair service. The only company i know of that has pretty good service overall is htc, but that might change since they're going to be more strict on warranty because of bootloaders.
I voided my warranty.

Well I got my phone back, just a heads up, like I said in the OP, they said it would be shipped on the 16th, however when I called in then, they said it would not be shipped that week at all because they had NO atrix's at all, new or refurb, and they were waiting on parts. I then filed a complaint with the BBB and informed motorola of the complaint. Guess what within an hour I got a second call saying the phone had shipped (this was at 8PM) and tomorrow morning a new phone was sitting on my doorstep. So if you guys are having major issues like me, just file a complaint with the BBB and motorola should comply.

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Well I got my phone back, just a heads up, like I said in the OP, they said it would be shipped on the 16th, however when I called in then, they said it would not be shipped that week at all because they had NO atrix's at all, new or refurb, and they were waiting on parts. I then filed a complaint with the BBB and informed motorola of the complaint. Guess what within an hour I got a second call saying the phone had shipped (this was at 8PM) and tomorrow morning a new phone was sitting on my doorstep. So if you guys are having major issues like me, just file a complaint with the BBB and motorola should comply.
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Ok thanks for the heads up if nothing happens by tomarrow thats just what i will do

Well... I just found another issue.... No computer is able to recognize the phone. I've tried three different computers and I've tried installing the proper drivers and still, all I get is the "USB Device Not Recognized" error on all three. Time to call them back...

probably is driver. reboot phone and computer.

Verizon rant...

This is sort of a long story. Sorry, I just had to put this in writing to get it off my chest, I am beyond frustrated with Verizon...
I bought a Galaxy 10.1 4G LTE from Verizon Wireless online back in July. I got and love the crap out of it. It is awesome. Then I got the dreaded newton rings, and read through the epic thread here on XDA and decided to get it fixed or replaced. I walked into a Verizon store (which are becoming more common that McDonald's around me) and told them my problem and asked for a replacement. This was 9/22/2011. He said since I ordered online they have to order the replacement online and I would have it in two business days. Great. I would rather have the thing right now, but I can deal with that.
Two days later, I get an empty brown cardboard box. I call Verizon 'customer care center' and they say to wait another day or two to get the new tab and put my old tab back in the box and ship it back. They at Verizon never want their customers without a device, so make sure to wait until you get the new one, then you have 10 days to return the old one. Okay.
Two days later, still no tab. I call Verizon again. Their system says the tab is on back order, and as soon as they get one in stock they will ship it out. Okay. Another week later, I call back, same response. Another week later I call back, same response. WTF? How can a product be on back order for that long if you are still selling them in the store?
Finally (11/4/2011) I called and wasn't going to buy their back ordered story, and the lady was pretty helpful. She kept me on the line and conferenced in someone from the technical center. This lady said in a condescending tone that I had the return box, why didn't I return it to them. They can't process a new tab until they get the old one. They have 700 of them in stock, I just need to send them my damaged one and they will ship out a replacement or repair it in 1 to 2 business days. She was kind of rude, like why did I wait this long. Whatever. I boxed up my tab and shipped it off to them on 11/7/2011. FedEx tracking confirms they receive it on 11/9/2011. Nice. Maybe by the end of the week I'll have my new tab.
Nothing. I call again on 11/16/2011. Customer care rep says hmm, they are showing back ordered. I said I've heard that one before, call tech support. She calls tech support. The lady at tech says that she sees they received my old tab, but there is no note or pending shipment for the new one. She will put that order in right away and overnight a new tab to me, so I will have it on 11/17. Good, finally I might get my tab by the end of this week.
Today, 11/18/2011. I get an empty cardboard box with instructions on how to ship my tab to them for repair. I call customer care. Hmm, system says they are back ordered. Call tech support. Tech support guy says, nope there are plenty of them in stock. He sees that the order was placed on 11/16, but has no idea why they haven't sent me a new tab yet. He is going to initiate an investigation, which could take a few days. He does send me his e-mail info and contact info for his supervisor, so now at least I have someone to call direct at tech support.
Almost two months since I first initiated the repair order, two weeks without my tab, and Verizon has no clue what is going on. Great. Maybe next week...
I should have bought the WiFi version.

May I suggest finding a better Vzw store to deal with. I work with the largest indirect VZW dealer and have helped 2 put 3 people swap there's with no issues. I really hate to hear the run around you are dealing with. I would be livid. Hope this is resolved soon for ya.
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Get in touch with me
I work as a consultant at Verizon Wireless, I forwarded your post to my boss, I will do my best to help you. Send me a private note and I'll be in touch.
Jim

Thanks for the replies and the help. The guy handling the investigation called on Friday night and said that his records showed that the replacement was shipped and delivered to my office. Since I was at home, I couldn't confirm that, but suspected it was the empty cardboard box I got. I checked this morning, and it was. The tech did send me his e-mail and his supervisors direct number, so I left a message with the supervisor and will keep trying to get this resolved! Everyone I talk to seems like they want to help, but nobody is quite sure how to get things done. They have different policies for the tablets than their phones, and nobody seems to know how to handle the tablets.

DMMCD -
Email sent to the parties involved, along with their boss. Hope it does something....
Jim

Thanks for helping, Jim. Yesterday there was a lot of back and forth e-mails between people within Verizon, which Jim was kind enough to keep me updated on. I did get a voice mail on my work phone from a tech support supervisor last night around 6:15 pm, but I just got the message this morning. I left him a message with the information he requested (tracking number for sending my old tab back, which I gave to two different tech support reps previously). Hopefully today brings resolution. It would be nice to have my tab for Thanksgiving holiday.

I would file a complaint through your State Attorney Generals website in regards to all of this. Then VZW's Consumer Government Affairs department will research the matter and are required to respond to your complaint and to the Attorney General.
Put a little heat on them. Get as many eyes on this as possible. That's absolutely ridiculous. Unfortunately, as with most companies, the CSR's are limited to notes and what's on an account. They can tell you things all day long and try to help you but they're limited to what's in front of them.
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For Pennsylvania the State Atty General Consumer Complaints can be found here:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/complaints.aspx?id=451#
Here is the form you can submit the complaint with online:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/complaintforms/bcp_form.aspx
Again it's all just a suggestion, you're not penalized for doing it, it's your right as a consumer. You're not suing them, you're not taking them to court or anything. You're just making a formal complaint that they have to recognize and address, then they have to identify steps they took to resolve your situation to the Attorney General.

Hopefully it won't come to that, but we'll see...
I thought things would happen today, but so far this morning I have left two messages with a tech support supervisor, along with a message for a different supervisor yesterday, and e-mailed the original tech support rep with no replies at all. The only info I had that things were happening at all were from the e-mail traffic that Jim (tommydorsey) was kind enough to forward on to me.
I don't like being left in the dark. I would like a call from somebody, even if it is to say that no progress has been made. Why can't I just walk into a Verizon Wireless store and have them hand me a new tab? That would have ended this insanity two months ago, and I would be a very happy customer.

I ordered mine online and got an in-store replacement for the Newton's ring issue. And used the opportunity to upgrade it to the 32GB model. Their are allot of Verizon "Premium Retailers' that have are pretty poor in my experience. I stay away from them and only do business a with Verizon owned store. Those experiences have all been excellent.

The store I went to is a large Verizon owned retailer. It seems like a lot depends on the particular sales rep that you have the fortune of speaking with.
I did finally get a call back from the tech service rep. He said the warehouse claims they sent the Tab to me last week. We checked the tracking number, and I confirmed that what they thought was a Tab was actually an empty cardboard 'recovery' box with that tracking number on it. I offered to take a picture. So he is in communication with the warehouse to see why they sent a recovery box rather than a tablet. The saga continues.

Okay, I got a call from the tech supervisor around 5:45 pm who said "headquarters" shipped out a tab and I should get it tomorrow. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that it is not another empty cardboard box...

dmmcd - I hope this works today. Fingers crossed.

Yey, I finally got something. Of course the name on the label was Don and I am Dan, so it was given to the wrong person in my company and I had to track it down. But I got a "new" tab.
Which bugs me a little, it is a "certified like-new replacement". I really hope I don't have any problems with it. I guess at this point I am happy to have anything. I also lost my screen protector when I sent my original tab back to them.
The screen is different than my original one, and has the SAMSUNG logo on the bottom of the screen. I hope it stays free of the newton rings.
A tech support supervisor texted me to make sure I got it. Still not really blown away by this customer service. It took over two months to get to this point, and the last 2 1/2 weeks I was without a tablet. The last week seemed like intense negotiations just to get anything out of them at all. Too much confusion within the company. I still think they should have honored my exchange at the physical store and avoided all this mess.