if we put linux on the a500 and download virtual box then we can run windows 8 in virtualbox right
I think virtualbox uses x86 hardware, especially if you have the additional virtualization features to make virtualizing x86 possible. I don't think it runs or would even compile on non-x86 hardware.
I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it. I know it doesn't need the x86 extensions, but I think it still uses the similarity to make what it does in cases it doesn't much easier.
It's not an emulator as I understand it.
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if we put linux on the a500 and download virtual box then we can run windows 8 in virtualbox right
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You really do not understand what you're talking about, and even a simple Google search would've told you the answer.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtualbox
It clearly says there: "x86", whereas A500 is powered by ARM CPU. Virtualbox doesn't run on ARM, nor does Virtualbox support ARM guest OSes. Even if you magically managed to make Virtualbox run on ARM host OS it would run EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
Short answer: NO.
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You really do not understand what you're talking about, and even a simple Google search would've told you the answer.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=virtualbox
It clearly says there: "x86", whereas A500 is powered by ARM CPU. Virtualbox doesn't run on ARM, nor does Virtualbox support ARM guest OSes. Even if you magically managed to make Virtualbox run on ARM host OS it would run EXCRUCIATINGLY SLOW.
Short answer: NO.
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I tried to be gentler than you were lol
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I tried to be gentler than you were lol
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Well, I might have been a little too blunt. I just wanted him to understand that what he planned will never fly.
The ARM - version on W8 could potentially be made to run on the A500 if the devs can figure a way of booting it up, but even then the ARM - version will not be able to run x86 software, so it's still likely not what the OP was hoping for.
Now where was I... Oh, right, looking for more virtual teeth to punch in!!
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Well, I might have been a little too blunt. I just wanted him to understand that what he planned will never fly.
The ARM - version on W8 could potentially be made to run on the A500 if the devs can figure a way of booting it up, but even then the ARM - version will not be able to run x86 software, so it's still likely not what the OP was hoping for.
Now where was I... Oh, right, looking for more virtual teeth to punch in!!
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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Microsoft have already stated QUITE CLEARLY that Arm Win 8 will absolutely NOT run native x86 apps. It WILL, however, be able to run .NET apps, though they will probably have to be compiled under the .NET 4.5 framework first.
And I don't believe in softly softly either. Getting to the truth right away saves time and, quite frankly, if people's skin is so thin that they take offence at a terse reply, then they have no business being on the internet!
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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You are, confirmed here:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/09/16/1324243/microsoft-no-windows-8-arm-support-for-x86-apps
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Microsoft have already stated QUITE CLEARLY that Arm Win 8 will absolutely NOT run native x86 apps. It WILL, however, be able to run .NET apps, though they will probably have to be compiled under the .NET 4.5 framework first.
And I don't believe in softly softly either. Getting to the truth right away saves time and, quite frankly, if people's skin is so thin that they take offence at a terse reply, then they have no business being on the internet!
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Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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You have three shoulders!?!?!?
Another one of these.......
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Please Dont make me cry.I had 3rd shoulder surgery 3 hours ago.still numerous an
n in a foggy mind.
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Don't worry about comments by miserable ppl ER, that's what the "block user" function is for in your user CP. Then you only have to see their posts if someone else quotes them. He's been on my list pretty much since day one.
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software.
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I don't understand how can you come to the conclusion that Win8 could somehow run applications compiled for a completely different architechture based on just the fact that they're not installed the same way they're installed now.
You people really need to get a grip on reality.
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Don't worry about comments by miserable ppl ER, that's what the "block user" function is for in your user CP. Then you only have to see their posts if someone else quotes them. He's been on my list pretty much since day one.
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Typing with one hand
No biggie.but thanks.Surgery a 3rd ttime on my left shoulder. I so much wanna go back to work.if you have nothing nice to. Say say nothing.
As far as win 8 arm from a Microsoft conference I seen showing off windows 8.There will be app type.touch programs.or youncan intact run full blown cross platform programs.this came from. Ms.but was several months back.I seen a mess coming.Burnside not under estimate the abilities of ms. They get alot of crap yet we all have there software in one form or another.
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or youncan intact run full blown cross platform programs.
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Those cross-platform applications will need to be written in either pure .NET 4.5, or in HTML5/JS, ie. non-native code. And well, obviously, HTML5/JS applications will run on any platform, not just Win8.
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im runnin the dev preview of 8 on my pc and ive noticed when u install x86 or 64 software it goes to its usual places (prog files) but also creates a folder called apps. this makes me think well be able to run any software on ARM Windows 8 because of how it installs software. i may be full of **** though, i dunno.
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I'm also running windows 8 on my older computer.
It seems to be designed for tablets and pcs.
Your start screen is actually where the apps are.
If you use one of these and switch to another one you don't close the first one.
If you return to it it is open right where you left it just like a tablet.
With Regular programs like word you can close them.
It will take some getting used to.
Alternatively, do what I did.
Sell your A500 and buy a W500 on the cheap on ebay. I actually made a small profit!
Run Win8 on it.. works flawlessly and so much faster than Android in.. well, pretty much anything.
I'm typing this on a 22" widescreen at 1920x1080 in an RDP session.. something I couldn't do on Android.
Biggest problem with W500 is that it looks like it was designed by.. no wait... they didn't bother hiring any designers... some guy got some plastic casing and slapped a Windows 7 sticker on it.
Oh, and I haven't figured out how the alarm works... tablet goes to sleep and I have to wake it up and then the alarm goes off!! I'm sure it's meant to work the other way round.....
Well, have you tried that? (running Windows 8 on Acer A500 Tablet)
Give us feedback and results.
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Well, have you tried that? (running Windows 8 on Acer A500 Tablet)
Give us feedback and results.
My A500 Rocks!
Thor Transformer Revolver 3.5 Port v4.1
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Does nobody "really" get it?!?
The ARM version has not been released, and you cannot run the x86/x64 version on the A500!
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Does nobody "really" get it?!?
The ARM version has not been released, and you cannot run the x86/x64 version on the A500!
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I know that! (just kidding)
But if the OP is still persistent of doing that, he should done it.
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Pocket Fallout ENG 1.0
Requirements: any QVGA, VGA device (not working well on widescreen devices)
Overview: Long waited PocketPC clone of the famous Fallout game
More Infoocket F.A.L.L.O.U.T. - A unique FREE, platform role-playing game for mobile devices based on Windows Mobile 2003, WM5, WM 6.x, as well as desktop PCs based on the OS Win9x, WinXP, Vista, which allows the user to plunge into the boundless world postnuclear, limitless wasteland. The project is based on the immortal series of the game Fallout 1 and Fallout 2.
Code:
http://www.pocketfallout.net/
Download Instructions:
http://anonym.to/?http://www.ziddu.com/downloadlink/3340238/PocketFALLOUT_v.1.0_eng.zip
Mirrors:
http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/191286629/PocketFALLOUT_v.1.0_eng.zip
http://anonym.to/?http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CSTZPEZZ
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Here are some tips on the game:
Open config.cfg
change player_name={yourname} - the nick you want to use for the game
always_run={1} - to make it always run - moves a lot faster, i have played fallout 2 with always run it is a lot easyer and faster
the status things must be set to off because they eat aditional resources (you may try them before disable them):
show_fps={0}
memory_status={0}
battery_status={0}
Great! Download and testing now
I just got this but is it all in russian? Im gonna try it out in the morning and post back.
ok well I answered my own question there are two downloads one in russian and one in english
install instructions link does not work
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install instructions link does not work
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Yep, instructions link is dead. Downloading english now and will update tomorrow. Hope it works out good, loved fallout 4 on xbox 360! Way too short of a game though, wish it was as long as Oblivion. Oh well. Thanks!
45mb??
before You get overexcited let me clarify few things:
- it is not a port. it's fallout-like product (clone as devs would like to call it) without an option to play original f1, f2 files. it's got it's own story which takes place in Russia
- translation to english is HORRIBLE. I really hope that someone like hotforwords is going to help those guys to make it useful.
- it does work quite well, but gameplay is slightly different from original.
anyway... this may be interesting in the future, but all my hopes are with soon-to-be-released fpsece 0.1.
br
bro
Doesn't work on my Touch....
I can't select anything in the main menu.....
loved fallout 4 on xbox 360
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yeah, interesting..i had fallout 17 on timex watch, it is cool.
it's fallout-like product
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..f1/2 story can be made, more or less with that engine, tho.
translation to english is HORRIBLE.
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You may translate it for us ( mhmmm...).
soon-to-be-released fpsece 0.1
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soon means years
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tip: set battery_status={1} to 0 for better performance.
flaviopac said:
Doesn't work on my Touch....
I can't select anything in the main menu.....
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try wvgafix
the translation is pretty bad but its not bad enough to not play the game...works great on the kaiser
volcomnator999 said:
install instructions link does not work
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Yes they work just fine
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Yep, instructions link is dead.
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No it's not
deeznuts said:
loved fallout 4 on xbox 360!
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No you're not. You loved Fallout 3 on Xbox 360. - just messing with you i know it's just a typo
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1. ..f1/2 story can be made, more or less with that engine, tho.
2. You may translate it for us ( mhmmm...).
3. soon means years
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siemasz nothin...
1. f1/2 story can be made indeed, but converting all the files may take ages. whatever...
2. I won't translate it, as my native language is not russian, so that's why I have suggested that some proper translator should be used instead of some pc translator.
3. well... I would be careful saying many years, as this project is alive and near completion. some Russian hackers have stolen some alpha version of it, but schtruck and ldchen have decided to continue their work anyway. I would say that it's a matter of weeks to get it finished. please follow fpsece forum before saying something silly...
pozdrawiam
bro
Here are some tips on the game:
Open config.cfg
change player_name={yourname} - the nick you want to use for the game
always_run={1} - to make it always run - moves a lot faster, i have played fallout 2 with always run it is a lot easyer and faster
the status things must be set to off because they eat aditional resources (you may try them before disable them):
show_fps={0}
memory_status={0}
battery_status={0}
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siemasz nothin...
3. well... I would be careful saying many years, as this project is alive and near completion. some Russian hackers have stolen some alpha version of it, but schtruck and ldchen have decided to continue their work anyway. I would say that it's a matter of weeks to get it finished. please follow fpsece forum before saying something silly...
pozdrawiam
bro
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salut!
i know that.
i am on their forums since ...2005...i dont especially care about saying "something silly" there, you know, i can live without 0.10...i have atari st, amiga, atari xl, c64, snes, nes, gb, gba, cps1, cps2, sega, pc emulators for ppc, so i can handle..
i am just bored by waiting..
problem is, that nobody cares about stolen version, people just want to have something useful.
btw, look closely - you'll know WHO exactly stole thing(it took me 20 mins to know that) - just look on 4pda.ru forum.
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btw, bronx , are you author of pocketfallout?
if so, i must say it is impressive job!
but need to ask:
why game's crashing just after i kill something(ants, scorpions), ants - 30% chance, scorpions almost 100% chance.
i have redownloaded zip, still same problem.
i have plenty of memory free, xscale cpu, still crashing.
next thing: why you used such strange pathfinding method...it is SO annoying now..i've seen on russian subforum exact visualisation of the problem made by someone.
small idea: scrolling might be i.e. 10 px step instead of nightmarish fluid BUT slow method..
impatiently waiting for answer, or next versions,
best regards...
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try wvgafix
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I own a Touch.... ELF!
nothin said:
salut!
i know that.
i am on their forums since ...2005...i dont especially care about saying "something silly" there, you know, i can live without 0.10...i have atari st, amiga, atari xl, c64, snes, nes, gb, gba, cps1, cps2, sega, pc emulators for ppc, so i can handle..
i am just bored by waiting..
problem is, that nobody cares about stolen version, people just want to have something useful.
btw, look closely - you'll know WHO exactly stole thing(it took me 20 mins to know that) - just look on 4pda.ru forum.
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btw, bronx , are you author of pocketfallout?
if so, i must say it is impressive job!
but need to ask:
why game's crashing just after i kill something(ants, scorpions), ants - 30% chance, scorpions almost 100% chance.
i have redownloaded zip, still same problem.
i have plenty of memory free, xscale cpu, still crashing.
next thing: why you used such strange pathfinding method...it is SO annoying now..i've seen on russian subforum exact visualisation of the problem made by someone.
small idea: scrolling might be i.e. 10 px step instead of nightmarish fluid BUT slow method..
impatiently waiting for answer, or next versions,
best regards...
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hm... I am really confused now. where did You get it from that I am the author of PF?? no, I am not an author of it and I am not related with anyone involved in this project.
imho this game does have quite large potential indeed, but it is nothing really special at this stage.
regarding fpsece I don't really care about who was that hacker, the important thing is that project isn't dead. don't get me wrong, but I beileve that real psx emu is kind of an ultimate thing in gaming on pocket pc and while other emus are entertaining, I would swap ALL of them just for this one after it's complete.
jeszcze raz pozdrawiam i do poczytania to tu, to tam...
br
bro
p.s. sorry for the offtop guys
ok tried it out n so far here r my impression
i tried it out on my wizard and it worked the graphics were beatutiful n the opening sequence was so much like fallout the origional i had flashback but unfortunatly my wizard just aint strong enough to play it needs more power ah wel
but besides tht i tried it out on my PC and i found
one like someone said before the translation unfortunately leaves much to be desired
two n this is thw worst part on running through the trial building behind tht preast when i get to tht locked door i open it using the hack option but as soon as i step through it it hangs i tried it different ways but same results hopefully there would b some kind of fix for it
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I can't select anything in the main menu.....
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I have the same problem.
Simply amazing!!! Enjoy XDAers..
http://code.google.com/p/live-android/
if you want to use VirtualBox to run it: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Can i run hero on my PC? I got 4Gb ram thats waiting to test this.My Cpu is a P9800 i think 2.4GHZ, is that enough? Cant forget about the Nvidia 260GtX with enough power to play crysis maxed out
But you have to give props to Microsoft for their superb OS's(Win7/Vista) and some to dell for their great quality and prices...Well im sold here..
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Can i run hero on my PC? I got 4Gb ram thats waiting to test this.My Cpu is a P9800 i think 2.4GHZ, is that enough? Cant forget about the Nvidia 260GtX with enough power to play crysis maxed out
But you have to give props to Microsoft for their superb OS's(Win7/Vista) and some to dell for their great quality and prices...Well im sold here..
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There is absolutely nothing good about Windows Vista.
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There is absolutely nothing good about Windows Vista.
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+1. Window's Vista sucks, had to get rid of Vista all together and run Ubuntu 9.10. But this is a neat idea running android on your computer. Might have to partition my hard drive and test it out.
I loaded this as a livecd. Hmmm Either it don't work or don't do much. It loads the exact same thing as an emulator basically. My computer looked like a blown up version of my phone. The mouse didnt work. When I tried to move the mouse, the homescreen changed to a different one. The top even had a roaming symbol on it. Guess I don't see the point.
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+1. Window's Vista sucks, had to get rid of Vista all together and run Ubuntu 9.10. But this is a neat idea running android on your computer. Might have to partition my hard drive and test it out.
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When I can install Ubuntu on my home PC with the same or less amount of problems as Vista, then I might consider it.
With that said, I am a big fan of Mint. All of the love from Ubuntu, refined. And yes, Mint runs very well on my home PC.
Here's a link to another project called Android-x86, similar to the live android posted above
http://www.android-x86.org/
To install apps: http://code.google.com/p/live-android/wiki/howtoinstallapps
Using the Wiki is very useful as well in case you are running into any type of issues, mine is working fine good people : http://code.google.com/p/live-android/w/list
I would love to see WM ported to this device, it would be the next best thing to the HD2 if someone could.
Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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yea i swore by winmo until i got this, because essentially winmo had the same basics. multi-tasking, sandboxed apps, open development. its just that the engine for winmo was 8 years old, and it was not slick anymore.
as far as 720p video goes, who shoots 720p video with their phone and then broadcasts it to the world as HD, seriously who does that. i saw the video quality and its very decent.
video calling- yeah they could have done that.. but no, im not willing to sacrifice open development for video calling. if you absolutely must have it, get the sprint evo. thats like a million times better than i****.
This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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Very true... I switched from the TP2 to the Inc and really expected not to like the Android. Within a half hour, I was hooked and wondered why Windows Mobile is at least 10 years behind in technology.... This is my opinion of course but no matter how good WM7 is, I simply can not imagine going back.
Yep I just left the TP2 and was only worried about the lack of hard keybd but 3 days later, who cares about keyboard....DI works when WM would freeze or crash.
I still have a lot of apps that aren't available for android yet. Would be nice to have the added features like the hardware compass and more ram and the added speed.
I'm not saying that android is a bad platform, which it isn't and I know its advancement is moving along at full steam.
I just have a lot of stuff that I use for WM and isn't available for anything else yet except some of it is available for Crapple's IPhone and would like to keep it for now.
GPS Meter, GCzII, VidaOne Personal Diet and Fitness, Identadrug, Davis Drug Guide, Hamachi2, WMWifiRouter, WifiMonster, GPSWeatherRadar, Bing, and TrackMe.
Would be nice to see an WM Energy ROM for this thing.
Also, is there anything available yet that will auto install software and customize your device with your user information and settings yet for android like XDA_UC does?
like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?
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Not really, this device is better than the hd2 because the hd2 is running windows. Android blows winmo out of the water imo, and I was a hardcore winmo fanboy until recently.
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so was I for about 5-6 years until I got this thing then I was like windows who?
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This is so funny, 99% of people are switching to android running away from MS like the house is on fire, but someone actually wants MS ported to an andriod device. I guess the grass is always greener
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if they got WP7 ported to it then I would def try it for S&Gs, and because I could, I love not having an icrapple.
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like XDA_UC? No, not that I know of as of yet but I'm new to Android(just got rid of my TP2 recently). However, if you set up a gmail account now on your TP2 and know how to setup ActiveSync(instructions are on Gmail's website) all of your calendar & contacts auto-sync to the Incredible when you set it up. All of your apps stay with your gmail account on the marketplace so anything like XDA_UC on Android is relatively useless other than automatically setting up user settings. However, if Android is set-up like a Linux computer, you can simply update the OS version without losing your settings anyways... Trust me, I was in your shoes... It's easy to keep saying Windows is nice but aren't you sick of your phone freezing all the time?
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I haven't been having any problems with my phone freezing up since I unlocked my phone and got away from that pitiful stock rom and upgraded to a 6.5.3 rom, except when it gets really hot from being on in direct sunlight in my truck or something.
I'm not saying that android is bad, just saying it doesn't do what I want it to do at the moment.
lol. I wiped WinMo from my HTC Vogue in favor of Android cause even 6.5.3 is junk. Can't believe someone wants to regress on purpose. Microsoft's answer to finger friendly was to just make certain buttons bigger and make the X really big and ugly.
No way any dev is wasting their going backwards. This wouldn't be like a dev running Windows 3.1 on a Nokia or Apple device to show of their skills. It'd be like swapping a Mustang's engine with an Escort's.
Sorry if I sound rude...I don't mean to. It just sounds crazy to me.
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I agree with the above post. I owned every WM phone under the sun until the G1 came out. Since then I haven't looked back. I had the G1, mt3g, then switched to verizon for the Eris and now the Incredible. They all outperform any windows device I ever owned. I can't think of one thing on windows that I miss really. Use the incredible for about a week and you'll be hooked. There are plenty of apps in the market I'm sure you can find apps to do what you need.
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I know all of the versions of WM have a list of problems that have plagued users since long before I ever used my first WM device "HTC Apache" and I think its besides the point of this thread.
Why has android been ported to other devices "such as the before mentioned HTC Vogue" and all of the other devices that it has showed up on?
One word....... Choice.
People want the ability to choose what they do with their devices, run what they want to run on it and do what they want with it. If they didn't want that choice then everyone would have a Blackberry.
I'm not saying that WM is any better or worse than Android, Personally I use both "Via XDANDROID" on my Touch Pro 2 and I like android, but I still use WM because I have a lot of apps that I rely on that aren't available on android, so I want to have the choice to run WM or Android on it and I think there may be a few others that haven't switched away from WM completely yet because it has something that they use.
you have not experienced Android to it's potential if you are basing your opinion on running 'XDANDROID's' current work in progress... That was running Android off of an SD card and was STILL faster than WM. However, alot of things didn't work properly so your view is skewed. You mentioned people wanted 'variety' so they through Android on their phones.... Not exactly. Android is simply faster and manages memory better hence why people try to port it to WM to speed up their phones. If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???
anothen said:
If your only reason for not wanting to switch is because of a few apps, I'm sure you can find the apps on Android. The fact that you are really trying to make the point that you want to stick with WM bc of a few apps boggles my mind... Have you even looked in Android marketplace???
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I agree....If you search a little bit you'll find apps that will replace the ones you're missing from WM. I thought the same thing when I switched but I've found everything I needed and more.
Identadrug
I purchased this with a yearly subscription and I use it almost daily for work.
http://www.identadrug.com/%28S%28p21lfx45orka2x55gbhbvtad%29%29/pda.aspx?s=ID&cs=
Nothing mentioned about android...
Looked at Davis Drug Guide, and it now has Android.
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
http://www.vidaone.com/ Diet and fitness software that i bought and use daily has no current support for Android.
Hamachi 2 Client I use it daily for accessing our reports system at work and my network at home.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
TrackMe I see a couple of TrackMe apps on Android, but are any of them based off of this one that have a web gui and allow me to use my existing self-hosted server? Using my existing server setup isn't a requirement but it would help, but hosting my own server and having offline storage of data to sync later is a requirement. (more information requested on this one)
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
Bing: Seems that there is a version out there for android now, I use it mostly for business listings and movie times etc...
I rarely use it for navigation.
I have listed above the programs that I currently use the most and either can't or don't want to do without.
When an android version comes out of this software or something else that can replace it with the same features "then I will seriously consider switching.
I just really want a better device to run what I have on "since we are locked in with the limited selection of devices that our carriers offer us", at least until more companies adapt their software for android.
Maverick_TN said:
GCzII Geocaching app, nothing available in android marketplace even comes close to comparing to it at the moment.
WMWifiRouter No current android support "however Chainfire has mentioned that they are developing a version for android" and PDANet just doesn't compare doesn't support wifi and is much slower when using bluetooth and doesn't have the range as wifi. "My g/f and I often take our laptops and I leave my phone plugged up charging while in the cradle in my truck and leave wifirouter running and we both can surf with reasonable speed at the same time on each of our laptops.
GPSWeatherRadar Currently WM only, and I haven't found anything that is like this on android.
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-GeoBeagle has been out for awhile now and is open source
-Wireless Tether works pretty good but requires root
-Weather Channel or Weatherbug Elite not exactly the same but functions are there
Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
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Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Not to be rude, but sounds like you should have just purchased an HTC Imagio.
Very similar profile to our Inc's. Keep in mind that every single app you listed has been replicated in some way or form on android. Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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Imagio vs Rhodium_W......... Any real difference except for one being a slider and the other having a FM radio and a better camera? I was looking for something faster, has more ram, and a hardware compass. Since it doesn't look like VZW will get a CDMA HD2, I figured this had the most potential out of the current selection of offered devices.
I'm very content with what Android is capable of, it is afterall linux. Its the software selection that still needs a little work.
I've looked up Geobeagle. haven't tried it out yet though. Just heard that Tom from GCzII has been showing more interest in Android, perhaps he'll make a version for it.
Can you show me compariable versions of software for the other listed items?
LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Do some research, youll be pleasently suprised at androids capabilities.
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I agree with LegionTHEFecalExcretion....
Sounds like you want us to convince you that you made the right decision. I too came from WM and after a couple days of searching around I found all the apps I needed. To say that the software selection needs work is a little crazy if you ask me.
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
willrider said:
Finally got Ubuntu to run on this hench Note!!
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at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
makanimike said:
at the risk of this being a dumb question: how come you still have the android notification bar?
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Most likely running under vnc
yep!! chrooted and vnc'ed into it.
everything seems smooth... except when unmounting
May have to give this a try
I can upload my script if it helps.
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I can upload my script if it helps.
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There are several apps such as https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid which automate the process of setting it up. Might be worth checking out for anyone interested.
nicely done!
Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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I read about this a while back and can't remember exactly how it worked, but apparently it does run on the phone/tablet along side the Android operating system and you do indeed have to VNC into it.
Also, I heard back when people first started doing this that it wasn't a spectacular experience due to VNC controls on a touch screen being poor.
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Weird... I'm not quite sure how that would work - you'd be multitasking the OSes.. which is brutal.
Oh well, time to do a little digging.
We need a native port of Ubuntu because this will transform our tablet into a more productive product then tablets with Win8 .
An alternative would be "Ubuntu for Android", but again, is not available.
The VNC thing is lacking pressure sensitive controls, the protocol does not support this.
how to install?
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Ok... perhaps I'm being dense.. but the original post seems to be claiming he has Ubuntu running *ON* his Note. Which to me means 'I've overwritten Android and am using Ubuntu as the operating system on this tablet'. VNC should have NOTHING to do with it. (Which brings us back to 'why is there an Android menu bar at the bottom?)
If you're running VNC and just remoting to computer using Ubuntu, then it's not running on the tablet, you're just remoting in - which would work with Windows or MacOS just as well.
The other possibility, which also doesn't need VNC is if you got VirtualBox or some other emulator running and were running Ubuntu on that - which would be pretty cool, although not THAT spectacular.
So?
Which is it?
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the note runs a ARM image of ubuntu, using chroot and VNC into it (localhost or127.0.0.1).
it would be pretty pointless to show it running off a pc.
So based on my understanding, you installed ubuntu on your galaxy note 10.1 (which runs in parallel with the android OS) and the only way to access it is through VNC at the local port? Is my understanding correct?
If yes, does this run GIMP like other ARM linux devices?, cause this might make me want to buy a note 10.1 more (Still on the fence since I can only buy it on December). Could you also post the resource links/scripts so that other members with their notes can try? I'd also like to ask how is the performance over VNC? Does it lag a bit?
You can install GIMP and other apps that are not architecture dependent. However it is not for everyday use as it is rather slow. I haven't tried image editing yet. Vnc doesn't support pen pressure and all that.
I will upload the script once I clean it up a bit and plug a few holes
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how to install?
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Easiest way is this app, it has links to prebuilt ARM images and all that good stuff.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.linuxonandroid
Anyway, for people who are confused, all chroot does is essentially let you start up Ubuntu userspace stuff on top of the Android kernel, since it's just a Linux kernel anyway. The main benefit is to be able to run any ARM linux software, although graphical stuff is fairly useless because currently there isn't any complete port of X11 to Android so you have to use VNC to run graphical stuff which becomes generally pretty slow no matter the device. You can also SSH into the Ubuntu install which I find more useful for eg. running a web server development environment, or just to have git/ssh/other proper Linux utilities rather than having to use busybox stuff. Personally I think the most useful thing is if you're a vim/emacs user and have a bluetooth keyboard, you can get a lot of work done that way. My emacs-fu is weak so I haven't really used it that much to be honest.
So the performance with gui sucks as of now. Oh well I'll just wait for the official ubuntu OS to be available:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_for_Android
Based on initial data, these are the system requirements:
According to Canonical a phone needs the following requirements:[6]
Dual-core 1 GHz CPU
Video acceleration: shared kernel driver with associated X driver; OpenGL, ES/EGL
Storage: 2 GB for OS disk image
HDMI: video-out with secondary framebuffer device
USB host mode
512 MB RAM
Hope someone ports the official builds on the ubuntu phones and makes compatible drivers for the wacom and touchscreen.
Otherwise i might give it a try. Well, lol I could if I had a windows XP ISO Just wondered how it would perform. Is it worth trying or not worth the hassle? Would be cool if bochs/ qemu supported quad core emulation
Tozzy2 said:
Otherwise i might give it a try. Well, lol I could if I had a windows XP ISO Just wondered how it would perform. Is it worth trying or not worth the hassle? Would be cool if bochs/ qemu supported quad core emulation
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Too much hassle, it'll sh1t a brick with the ARM chip and it will only look at 1 core. It'll work but very sloooooooooow.
You'd have more fun trying to run Ubuntu.
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Too much hassle, it'll sh1t a brick with the ARM chip and it will only look at 1 core. It'll work but very sloooooooooow.
You'd have more fun trying to run Ubuntu.
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Agreed. Too much hassle for no reward.
And even (Ubuntu) is a slow mess on the Nexus 7. I don't honestly know why anyone wants to do this.. My main PC is a Unbuntu machine.. I run 12.10 w/ dual monitors, 8GB RAM and an ATI 6990. Love it.. Ubuntu is great.. For a PC... The problem with Ubuntu and any linux distro in general and why it sucks on a portable device is it is still entirely way too dependent on terminal commands to clean up its crappy package system. Installing packages is a simple click. One click, app installed along with 8,000 dependencies! Removing them is a click followed by dropping to terminal to purge and auto remove all the useless dependencies that were left behind. I love Ubuntu to death but for the love of god someone needs to get the balls to break away from the tired debian package system.
Apt is fine however more needs automating. You should get an option to purge and autoremove/autoclean from the GUI in an ideal world.
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Agreed. Too much hassle for no reward.
And even (Ubuntu) is a slow mess on the Nexus 7. I don't honestly know why anyone wants to do this.. My main PC is a Unbuntu machine.. I run 12.10 w/ dual monitors, 8GB RAM and an ATI 6990. Love it.. Ubuntu is great.. For a PC... The problem with Ubuntu and any linux distro in general and why it sucks on a portable device is it is still entirely way too dependent on terminal commands to clean up its crappy package system. Installing packages is a simple click. One click, app installed along with 8,000 dependencies! Removing them is a click followed by dropping to terminal to purge and auto remove all the useless dependencies that were left behind. I love Ubuntu to death but for the love of god someone needs to get the balls to break away from the tired debian package system.
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Say whaaat? Ubuntu is not a slow mess at all - you just need to get rid of Unity, and it's AMAZING. Chromium is actually faster than on Android!
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Apt is fine however more needs automating. You should get an option to purge and autoremove/autoclean from the GUI in an ideal world.
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first, you could just leave the dependencies there, doesn't really hurt anyone. second, try synaptic, which is a great gui for apt with purge and autoremove options.
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first, you could just leave the dependencies there, doesn't really hurt anyone. second, try synaptic, which is a great gui for apt with purge and autoremove options.
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True.. But some of us are OCD about trash lying around. :laugh:
I actually dropped Ubuntu since my post and went back to Mint.. 12.10 just entirely too buggy..
ok thanks guys. You're right, I think it would be a waste of time on just one 1.3Ghz core. Besides, desktop emulation never really would be an ideal environment on any device as it's too greedy on system resources. I have been interested about flashing real linux on this thing, but even that isn't really worth doing unless one just wants a bit of fun til the novelty wears off. The tiny fonts wouldn't be kind to the eyes and navigation would be painfully awkward. Ok, it's jelly bean all the way for me til the next update
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ok thanks guys. You're right, I think it would be a waste of time on just one 1.3Ghz core. Besides, desktop emulation never really would be an ideal environment on any device as it's too greedy on system resources. I have been interested about flashing real linux on this thing, but even that isn't really worth doing unless one just wants a bit of fun til the novelty wears off. The tiny fonts wouldn't be kind to the eyes and navigation would be painfully awkward. Ok, it's jelly bean all the way for me til the next update
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Debian itself would be ideal for the N7.. God how sweet would that be? Boot up the small debian ISO and build your own work environment on the N7 from a bare bones minimum base install.
THAT would be fun..