i've been using my hd2 a long time now,still like it. A problem id like to solve is,when i switch wifi on i manually have to switch off data connection otherwise although the wifi icon is in the display,the phone is using the data connection.
is there a setting which does this? and switches back on once wifi is off?
you'd think it would do this automatically
Sounds strange, mine always does it the correct way around.
Have you tried a resert on the phone?
you could always switch off the data connection but that is far from elegant
Are you still on win mo or have you flashed a custom rom yet?
I am running Coredroid 1.7 currently
I'm still using Windows 6.5 didn't want to switch to Android or something incase it screwed my phone up. i've done various resets since having the phone,hard soft,did upgrade to htc ROM on their site.
by the way the only way you can tell it is or isn't using the wifi is if my modem is flashing etc as its being used
my work around is just to switch off the data connection when using WiFi but its not ideal
Settings menu all settings connection connections manage connections( I think, working from memory)
Should find a screen with two dropdowns to select which connection is used for auto and non auto connections. Usually the auto one defaults to the mobile data, but set them both to "the internet" and they should use whichever is available.
As I said, working from memory, so wording may not be correct.
i've found the two drop downs,ive dabbled with them before. the option which seems to mean internet is "my ISP" but when i select that there's then other settings which it isn't clear what to update.
I'm not sure that's the answer. i reckon a lot of people have this problem but think the wifi is slow where in fact its using data connection.
must be another solution?
hmm, its been a while since i used winmo, and i also know different providers call their connections by slightly different thibngs when the initial setup happens, but thats essentially where its set.
However, a much better option would be use the toggles in cookies hometab (or a standalone toggle) and use that to toggle data on only when needed, then when its off everything will default to wifi.
My workaround is i use data controller to switch the data connection off then switch wifi on. The data connection comes back on automatically when there is no wifi and the phone needs to update via internet.
If only I new the setting to avoid this workaround....
Touch tools has an option to make the phone use Wifi first, I don't know if it works well because I don't use my data connection, and never will. Anyway, it's called Wifi on demand or something like that..
stock or custom rom?
it was a rom from the htc website
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This seems like I've got something setup wrong. When I am in my office, my phone works great and it connects using the WiFi here. The problem comes what I leave the office and go someplace that doesn't have WiFi. If I want to connect to the internet for example, I have to go to settings->connections->connections->advanced->select networks-> and then change from "My work Network" to verizon wireless. Of course, when I get back to work (or anywhere with a wifi connection) I have to remember to change the phone back to "My work Network".
Is there a way to automate this?
As a second question, some apps seem to always use the data connection even if the phone is on a wifi connection already. Is there a way to change this behaviour as well?
Anybody? Seems like something everyone could use.
I am not sure how you have your device set up or which rom you are using, but my device does not behave in this manner.
My device is almost exactly opposite. It is always connected to data network unless I force it to use wifi. I have not messed with any settings besides setting up my wifi connection. Interesting.
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I am not sure how you have your device set up or which rom you are using, but my device does not behave in this manner.
My device is almost exactly opposite. It is always connected to data network unless I force it to use wifi. I have not messed with any settings besides setting up my wifi connection. Interesting.
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I'm using DCD's ROM. And your issue sounds exactly like mine. It stays on data until I force it onto WiFi and then it will stay on WiFi until I force it on data. Kind of a pain if you ask me.
1st Question - Go to Start -> Settings -> Connections -> WiFi -> Menu -> Advanced and select your "Turn Off WiFi opition if not connected in __"
2nd Question - Idk, but I want that too, so that when I turn on my WiFi, my data connection turns off, and when I turn my WiFi off, my data turns back on, but I haven't found anything for that yet.
Hi,
I did search the whole forum for answers but in vain. Whenever I access weather tab and update the info, it updates using 3G/HSDPA.
But, what I want is to update using wifi at home. Is there an option to make it use wifi instead of 3G/HSDPA?
Pls lemme know coz it wud help me save a few penny
TIA
SK
Well I did the following.
1) As I don't want any applications (in background or by request) to update via any Phone Network I deleted the internet setting.
Now I can connect via USB or Wifi and then download, both work.
If I do it when I am not connected then I get an error message (as I have no internet connection setup).
So this works for me but also means I have to remake a internet connection if and when I want to download of phone network.
I have no flat rate data plan so its my only choice, maybe others have a better idea.
really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
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really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
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Which is correct as far as I can see.
The issue here seems to be he does not want to download via gprs and I have yet to find an option that allows you to turn it off.
The choices are Download automatically
Download weather when roaming
What is missing is that stops you downloading via GPRS but allows you to download via WIFI and when connected.
Problem
cx2k5 said:
really strange, mine uses wifi and if there is no wifi, it relies on gprs.
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Thanks 2 all for ur reply
Actually the problem is:
I have router at home and my touch hd connects to wifi to update mails, etc.. But when I switch to weather and update, it somehow doesnt identify the wifi connection. Instead uses 3G for updating...is it happening only in my mobile?
And I guess nodata might just work...lemme chk that out ....Thanks a ton
Mine too used to use what it wanted, hspda as first choice. So i deleted the 3g configuration. From what i have read, it is a WM problem: no way to set 3G as secondary choice
bbonzz said:
Mine too used to use what it wanted, hspda as first choice. So i deleted the 3g configuration. From what i have read, it is a WM problem: no way to set 3G as secondary choice
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oh i c...pls tell me how u deleted the 3g config and then did that take wifi for updating after doing so???
sriramkrishnan06 said:
oh i c...pls tell me how u deleted the 3g config and then did that take wifi for updating after doing so???
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start->settings->connections->connections
here you see (don't know how exactely in english, since i have italian)
internet (???)
work
under internet, "modify"
enter there, and delete your 3G account.
Now back in connections, go advanced->select (net???) [the first button over composition rules]
Here select "work" for everything.
Now, without 3G, the phone connects to internet only if you have an active wifi, otherways doesn't connect.
Wouldnt it just be easier to use the HD tweak utility to disable internet access via 3G/GPRS/HSDPA? - just a thought guys, instead of deleting settings which may be required at a later time (i.e. when no WIFI is available)
My weather updates fine via WIFI,
My emails (using a hotmail account) keep trying to update via 3G though - I can't get it to do it via WIFI unless I use Windows Live to login then update emails
Would, but as you see there are problems (and i suspect hd tweak kills also mms's, since excludes all data connections). Instead, deleting the account, is easier. I can always reinstall it with the connection wizard.
try this: disable or delete your gprs connection, enable wifi and try to download weather data. if successful, then re-enable your gprs connection and see if it still prefers to use gprs or wifi at first place.
Use modaco NoData to make sure the 3g connection is never used.
Done
Thanx a ton for ur help...I used Nodata and my work was done...sweet and simple...
Thanx
I have a similar problem, just wanted to open a topic about it
Unfortunate, weather is not updating any more, no Wifi, no 3G.
I do not mind it using 3G, but it's not updatingf, nothing works.
I am not even sure how to delete the default 3g connections.
i will try .. i hope i will not have to hard reset the phone again
Ummm... u bought £500 phone and yet can't afford a 50kb 3G/GPRS bandwidth per month?!
Quite intriguing
@zoomee
To make email use WIFI and 3G as a fallback, in email account settings change connection to "The Internet" (it's probably set to your 3G Access point e.g. "T-mobile internet")
Maybe your settings are wrong. Does QuickGPS work? If it doesn't, then check your settings. With some access points of some operators, you can only browse internet pages but not use other apps requiring internet access.
@sriramkrishnan06: no problem
I am affording a 3g Connection and Bandwidth (if that was pointed at me).
I can not get any more weather data (
I deleted as explained here some of the previous set connections to my 3g provider and also rebuild one, and still nothind
throguth Wifi it seems not to work, but through 3g, not any more
it was working before, i had to hard reset it and now it does not work any more
I think it was pointed to sriramkrishnan06.
Anyway, have you checked whether QuickGPS works or not?
The Quick GPRS works form me, Weather still does not work
I am little upset since i know i am missing something small. I am not THE thech savvy guy, but i know my whay arroud computers, (i am a web developer) still, somehow i am not able to make the damn weather work, even tried one of the "hacks" witht e weather database editoer, to load the default server, it is still not working for me.
If anyone has an idea .. please ..
If Quick GPS works then I have no idea. Are you sure you didn't mess up anything using that tool?
In any case, hard resets almost always work. If you don't want to, you could do a full backup with Resco Backup or similar, hard reset, test the weather, then restore the backup.
Reflashed my Jade from UK Orange to JADEMAN rom recently...
I don't think this is a ROm related problem (unless you know otherwise !) so I have posted in general part of forum.
Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
I am sure to be missing something but I can't spot what the problem is...
Any help appreciated.....
Phil
Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.
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Can anyone tell me how to force the phone to use Wifi to connect to the internet.
It connects via GPRS fine but i want to disable the GPRS DATA for travels abroad so I don't run up a huge data bill. I can stop the data with "NoData" app, but if I now try to connect to internet with Opera or Internet explorer if fails..
Is there something I am missing, to tell it either to connect via wifi before using GPRS data or to only connect via wifi. Do I need to create a connection ?
The create new connection page doesn't list using WiFi, bluetooth is the only "WIRELESS" type connection that appears to be offered.
Also when the wireless AP list is shown and I try to connect to an AP showing available that I have previously setup with WEP key etc, it fails to connect.
Any help appreciated.....
Phil
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MvBoe said:
Normally Windows Mobile connects via WiFi first, if available, and only when not present it uses GPRS. That means that you do not need to disable GPRS if an WiFi-connection is established.
I have no personal experiences with "NoData". Perhaps someone else can help.
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AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.
I have had a bad experience that even if all setups are ok Wi-Fi conn thru Ap fails.
Corrected such a way;
Under 'Wireless /Lan' settings
Power mode should be brought to 'best performance'
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AFAIK the moment you invoke any app that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc) That's how it works on my set. Unless you invoke Wi-Fi connection first, then data connection is ignored.
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That's what I meant: You have to activate WiFi by yourself to prevent jade using GPRS (etc.). Your description is more precise, I did not make it clear enough. Thanks for correction.
Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w
with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.
faria said:
with this app you can disable or enable data connections as you please.
there is another app here in the xda that will disable data when roming automatically, but i don't remember the name.
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Hi faria
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
Janeway
janeway said:
Unfortunately I find it better to go into connection manager, select airplane mode, then enable wifi. Then do any surfing, live messenger etc. Then once finished go back into connection manager, re-enable phone.
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The only disadvantage is here is that, you'll miss calls when there are incoming calls because your phone is inactive (while PDA is). You can just disable data connection (CommManager - Data Connection - off) and leave wi-fi connected.
Like others, I'm on Orange, wifi no longer stays the internet source even if it is connected. I have it on all the time, but if I use the internet, I have to go through the above procedure or it costs me credit through Orange.
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Just wondering.. how you identify which connection is being used, wi-fi or 3G/GPRS when both are connected.
What if you disconnect data connection (3G/GPRS) without activating the airplane mode, can you surf using wi-fi connection.
One possible reason - set connected to the AP via wi-fi but AP is not connected to internet, thus set seeks 3G as another route to internet.
Hi azahidi, thanks for taking time to reply to me . Your points as follows:
Yes, missing calls is the disadvantage, but I use my pda more for data and hardly any calls, so not so important for me, but obviously we be much better if that were possible as I do sometimes forget to swich back. If I disable the data connection, it automatically re-initializes itself as soon as ANY data is being transmitted - even with just wifi active - except when it is in airplane mode. This is a new thing for me with the Jade, didn't have that problem before with my previous HTC phone.
There is an icon for the 3G - when its in use it shows it - it goes from being a large G in a square to a smaller one with signal bars.
Wifi is definitely connected, I surf online with it all the time.
Its like 3G has priority over wifi - there should be a way to change that.
Hope the above makes sense.
Janeway
I'ven been using 'Nodata' succesfull the last past months, it does it's job well, but i'm not on Orange as you are, that might be the difference.
Just to be sure i've also changed my settings:
start > settings > connections > connections > advanced > select network > My work network (twice).
and
start > settings > connections >advanced network > uncheck HSDPA and in SMS choose 'GSM'
(all is translated from Dutch, hope i used the right words)
Thanks Nirak.
One of my settings was wrong - I should have known that from last time, but my brain's elsewhere at the moment!
Must have upset it when I flashed
Cheers for now.
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Hi and thanks for replies so far...
I have just done a hard reset to make sure I haven't loaded anything that may mess up the wifi connection... Even when wifi is on and I am connected to a wifi access point OK it still uses gprs/3g not wifi..
Back to the "drawing board" I think...
Any more ideas please...
Phil-w
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Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ?
I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. I can't try if it works because I only use the phone on 2G.
Joe
jfranek said:
Phil, can't you simply switch the "Data Connection" on/off switch to 'off' ? I have it in the Comm Manager right at the bottom. The Wi-Fi and Phone could be left 'on'. Joe
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That's how it should work actually. Either one, Wi-Fi or 3g/GPRS. But what phil is saying is that it also activates data connection (3G/GPRS) even when wi-fi is connected.
On my set, and in my network (not Orange but standard GSM).. this is how it works :
The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
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(...) The moment I invoke any application that requires internet connection (weather update, activesync, opera, etc) Jade invokes data connection first (3G, GPRS, etc). Unless if I invoke Wi-Fi connection on first, then data connection is ignored, it will stay off.
So what I normally do is, whenever I want to use internet, I connect using wi-fi then browse the internet. If there is no available AP, then I turn off wi-fi and continue browsing , which is then connected using 3G/GPRS/EDGE?HSDPA
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This is the way it normally works and should work under WindowsMobile. The Orange-ROM seems to be "manipulated" by the provider (?) not to work in this desirable way. All (or some?) Orange-ROM-Handsets seem to activate the data connection (3G/GPRS) every time ignoring the established Wi-Fi-connection. This rises the providers business volume.
It would appear to be correct about orange having had the method of connection changed.
I have just found and installed a different RADIO.ROM to my Orange Touch 3G and now it appears to connect as required.
Still not 100pc happy but will post my observations later with the rom numbers if it helps anyone else out..
Phil-w
Look on the HTC JADE reflashing on this site
Hi All,
There is no way around the Orange apps to enable WiFi, but I successfully reflashed the Roms in my Orange touch 3g yesterday.
Have a look here for the details on what to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514406
Follow the instructions carefully, and I chose to install the Stock HTC ROM 1.40.721.2 from the ROM post.
Wifi is then free....
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Well I appear to have got around the Orange Unique problem.
I upgraded the Rom on my Orange UK Touch 3G to the Jademan SuperRom V3. That got rid of the Unique side of things but with no improvement with Wifi connectivity.
The connectivity problem with wifi still caused problems, the internet connection would NOT use wifi even if I disabled the GPRS / 3G data connection with "NoData" It just returned a message saying it had failed to connect.
I decided to find a new radio rom image which I managed to on this Jade forum. I flashed the new rom and tested the same connections again. This time the wifi connected via Wifi first and without any problem... It would appear that flashing the Jademan rom didn't update the radio as well, I needed to update the radio as well.
The clue may be in the radio rom version number,
Original orange 0.29.30.U23
New Radio rom 0.41.30.12
A assume that the U in the orange rom refers to "Unique", which now I have replaced it, it appears to have cured the wifi problem and it is working just as any other Non-Orange Jade / Touch 3G does....
I have not noticed any problems with any other radio related issues since the upgrade, GPS, 3G/GPRS etc all seem to be fine.
I do find that the phone does struggle to connect with some Dlink AP's though... It may be a problem with the Dlink more than the phone but I still need to do more tests on that.
May be that will help a few other people out there...
Phil-w
Hi Phil,
I had exactly the same problem!
Started with an unlocked HTC Touch 3G with Orange customised ROM and then replaced it with the SuperROM. WiFi was unusable so (having read your post) I re-flashed with the standard ROM released from HTC and then re-flashed the SuperROM. This gave me the same Radio ROM that you show above however the WiFi problems seemed to be no better.
While I liked the idea of having the SuperROM I have gone back to the latest standard HTC ROM and all seems to be well.
John
Hi John,
My wifi now seems fine except not liking Dlink AP's for some reason.
I don't even need to stop gprs data with NoData etc, if there is a wifi connection available that I have setup previously it will use that rather than GPRS..
I appear to have "de-Oranged" it !!!
What probs do you still have on your Touch 3G ??
Phil
Hey all,
I'm on my 3rd htc device and I should have asked this question ages ago!
With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?
I would also be interested because coming from a symbian phone I really dont like that the phone does not ask me which access point I want to use and that gprs connection is the primary one to use on win mo phone. Nokia is better for me from this point of view, you have to choose which access point to use and there is no way you surf on the net thinking you are on wifi while in reality you are using gprs.
As a former Symbian user, I must agree. 1 point for Symbian, and inexcusably lame for Windows Mobile. Let's hope that this is something that can be worked out in an update to 6.5.x while we wait....and wait.... and wait for WP7.
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With things like weather updates and emails is it possible to have them automatically update and download when I'm using WiFi without it trying to open a gprs connection at all other times?
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No, there's no way to force wifi. If wifi is connected it will use it, but if it hits the time where it's set to autoupdate, and no wifi is available, it will connect to gprs.
but... if you are in a WiFI area, but without data service, you are SOL, because it won't use the WiFi for the status updates, email, etc.
Pretty dumb, really.
use bsb tweak to disable all mobile data connections or use nodata program... then it wont be able to try to connect while its not on wifi... but u wont be able to use data connections either unless u enable them again
Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.
is there a way to auto-download once wifi or data connection is detected? my carrier charges me bigtime for every connection access and not by the minute oe data use.. so I just want everything to update automatically in 1 access without manually doing so for each..
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Of course it does use wifi if it's connected and no other connection is present... I'm doing that every day!
When I arrive home I turn on wifi, disconnect data if it was connected, and I can do all I want, it will use wifi and not try to connect data.
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If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
If I reverse the process.... enable my data connection and disable WiFI.... choose Weather tab, and Update Now.... it works!
Why should such an integral part of the Homescreen UI be utterly and completely dependent on a data connection?
That's something I do not understand.
its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me
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its working fine over wifi if i turn off data connection for me
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You follow those steps, and it will update?
Any idea why it never has for me?
I've used
1.48 WWE (Stock)
1.66 WWE (Stock)
Dutty's HG v.08
Dutty's HG v.09
and it has never worked for me one time in this way.
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If disable my data connection, and enable WiFI, and then choose the Weather tab and Update Now... nothing happens. It tries... it fails. Always has on every ROM I've used.
Does it not do this for you, for example?
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No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?
that's sometimes a problem of synchronization of your wifi router and your device (e.g. dhcp or timeout reconnect of your wifi router)
try this:
switch on router and then wifi on your device.
then start quickgps and try to update.if it fails, then try again quickgps.
if it works on second time then it's because of this synchronization...but update weather should work now by wifi.
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No, if I do that it works perfectly.
I'd say you have a connectivity problem with your Wifi.. does it work to browse then net in Opera? Wouldn't you use a proxy by any chance?
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Opera and every other connection works. I think it has something to do with my location. It could be that my ISP or my service provider is part of the problem.
Oh one thing I forgot:
In wifi options, advanced, network cards, network cards tab, make sure it's set that your network card connects to the Internet, not Work.
That could be it.
I am using the stock 1.66 ROM and my wifi won't autoconnect to a network that I have used before, I have to go into the connection manager and manually select the network. Is there a program that I can use that will autoconnect to the best network, providing I have used it before?
Thanks
Sure mate. Use WeFi - http://www.wefi.com/download/wm/
Not to sure why you suggested wefi. it does not work on the HD2 screen resolution (and also need the outdates Net 2.0)
Thats very interesting what you say, because it working for me:
See attachments.
If this not satisfied you try registry mod. This mod causing, that if phone need data connection, then firstly try to connect with WiFi and if you are not in known WiFi range it use GSM. Similar but without interface like WeFi.