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[Q] still not sure about my xoom

im debating on taking my xoom back.im about 50/50 on it right now. i think that the 10 inch is just to big to be as usefull as my rooted honeycombed color nook for what i need. my question is, if i take it back to verizon do i have to pay the contract termination fee if it is within the 14 day period?

You wouldnt pay an ETF. However, i think there is a $70 restocking fee. I would keep the Xoom tho, its going to get so much better..There is no such thing as too big

I would call to make sure, but I was told when I bought mine, it would be a $70 restocking fee if returned within 14 days. Even the subsidized/contract one.

forsaken82 said:
i think that the 10 inch is just to big to be as usefull as my rooted honeycombed color nook for what i need.
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I have the NC on HC too but it is too buggy still. Once I held the Xoom in my hands (at the local Costco, not my own ) I realized what a huge difference in performance can be seen with the right hardware! But I'm with you - not sure how I'll handle both, the NC and the Xoom.

I am debating returning mine as well. I understand Best Buy is not charging any restocking fee, so that is encouraging. The hardware and software are both buggy, at least on mine. Given the premium for the device, it is not worth all the bugs, particularly the hardware ones.
I am leaning towards returning for an iPad 2, if it released tomorrow. I really prefer Android over iOS, especially the widgets, but unless the price comes down, the iPad may be the way to go.

im still pretty much bug free. i do like the device, but just not sure if i would prefer to wait for a 7 inch one

PearlMikeJam said:
I am leaning towards returning for an iPad 2, if it released tomorrow.
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You mean it's announced tomorrow, not released, right?

funnycreature said:
You mean it's announced tomorrow, not released, right?
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There are rumors floating around the net saying that Apple's big card up their sleeve is that they will actually release the IPad 2 directly after announcing it. Which, if you think about it, would have the ability to effectively kill the Xoom for a lot of people. I for one, hope that I can withstand the IPad 2 and wait for the WiFi only Xoom. It would have been smart for Motorola to release the wifi before the IPad 2, I guess we'll see.

What is the point of all of these types of posts exactly? Nobody cares if you're returning or thinking of returning your Xoom.
Questions about ETF's, return periods, and restocking fees are little more than spam on these boards.

schnoz said:
There are rumors floating around the net saying that Apple's big card up their sleeve is that they will actually release the IPad 2 directly after announcing it. Which, if you think about it, would have the ability to effectively kill the Xoom for a lot of people. I for one, hope that I can withstand the IPad 2 and wait for the WiFi only Xoom. It would have been smart for Motorola to release the wifi before the IPad 2, I guess we'll see.
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I read that too. They've stopped shipments of the old iPad and we all know what that means. I read on one website where they are predicting that the low end wifi model will only be $399. Hope it's true... I might pick one up for my fiance at that price and hopefully it will force some of these other manufacturers to bring down the prices.

Guess I'm the opposite of OP I want a bigger tablet to replace my laptop.
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jm9843 said:
What is the point of all of these types of posts exactly? Nobody cares if you're returning or thinking of returning your Xoom.
Questions about ETF's, return periods, and restocking fees are little more than spam on these boards.
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The point of asking is to get a answer, now what the point of being a ****?

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The point of asking is to get a answer, now what the point of being a ****?
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You want an answer? Call Verizon.

just get an ipad2 or even a first gen ipad its still faster than the xoom

mywingtophone said:
just get an ipad2 or even a first gen ipad its still faster than the xoom
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Back it up with claims if you're not just trolling. Video playback does not determine 'speed'.
I've found my Xoom to be a lot more responsive than any iPad I've used.

Bauxite said:
Back it up with claims if you're not just trolling. Video playback does not determine 'speed'.
I've found my Xoom to be a lot more responsive than any iPad I've used.
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Yea, the Xoom is a hell of a lot faster than an iPad. I own an iPad and for browsing its annoyingly slow even compared to my Epic4g. He is obviously trolling. Video playback is a big issue though.

muyoso said:
Video playback is a big issue though.
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*For some people. I couldn't care less about High profile video.

Refurbished Wifi Xooms 399$

Todays daily woot deal is the xoom wifi tablet for 399$, good deal!
http://www.woot.com/

I'm actually here because of today's woot... I had thought about picking one up shortly after they came out but decided against it for the price and my own lack of funds/need for it.
Now I've actually got a little money to spare but wondering if one of the other few competitors might be better so I'm trying to see what's best in terms of root, kernals, roms etc... Thinking I might end up picking one up at this rate.

I was looking at the same thing. Does anyone here have experience with the refurb items coming out of Motorolla? Are they generally in like new condition?

I am struggling with this one too...
I picked up a Xoom at Costco for $500 a few weeks ago, and could return it and pick up one off Woot for $100 cheaper. Only thing lacking is the fact that I lose the silicone case that comes with the Costco retail package.
Tempted to pull the trigger!

Does it still get the 4g upgrade?

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Does it still get the 4g upgrade?
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No - this is the WiFi only model. Not the 3g.

I purchased a refurb Xoom direct from Motorola at the end of May and I've had no issues with it all. I have a friend that also purchased a refurb Xoom direct from Moto. Both came in retail packaging with charger, cable and OEM screen protector as well as stock warranty. Didn't think I could go wrong.

Well, I think I am going to eat the $100 bucks and keep the Costco 90 day return policy in my back pocket in case some other fantastic tablet comes along to temp me away from my Xoom. I have until 9/19 for my return... ;-)

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No - this is the WiFi only model. Not the 3g.
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Yeah I just realized that when looking at the woot site lol. I'm an idiot.

I spent about the same on a used WIFI model only a few months ago. I think this is a great price for the xoom. keep in mind that this is the google flagship, therefore updates come ASAP whereas other tablets have to wait for their respective companies to give the go-ahead.

i paid 570 for mine at launch and I dont regret it. So, yeah, go for it.

I have been wanting to get one since launch, and woot's deal of the day convinced me to finally pull the trigger on it. Can't wait to start messing with it when it arrives!

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I purchased a refurb Xoom direct from Motorola at the end of May and I've had no issues with it all. I have a friend that also purchased a refurb Xoom direct from Moto. Both came in retail packaging with charger, cable and OEM screen protector as well as stock warranty. Didn't think I could go wrong.
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I doubt they have that many refurb, chance are that you will get new unit!
they are probably checking if lowering the price help them sell, in canada they just lowered the price to 499 like in the US at costco for the wifi and at this price point it's a great device! I lub mine!

I was too tempted and ended up ordering one last night as well. Just quickly browsing, it seemed like there are some good devs working on this and some good kernals/roms.
Definitely looking forward to playing with it! As much as I hate waiting around for it, I'll at least have time to research and prepare my plans of what to do to it.

P00r said:
I doubt they have that many refurb, chance are that you will get new unit!
they are probably checking if lowering the price help them sell, in canada they just lowered the price to 499 like in the US at costco for the wifi and at this price point it's a great device! I lub mine!
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Interesting that today Moto site shows no refurbished xooms available.

The same deal showed up again yesterday during the woot-off. I wasn't refreshing frequently so I don't really know how many they had left to sell, but I know they didn't sell out during the day of the deal.

First Kal El is Asus Transformer 2

Just saw this article and figured you guys would be interested!
http://www.fudzilla.com/mobiles/item/23737-first-kal-el-is-asus-transformer-2

I hope the dock works both ways, because I'll definitely be getting one (instead of *maybe*).

just picked up my TF 3 weeks ago. ill keep it till then, craigslist sale the week before maybe.

munsterrr said:
just picked up my TF 3 weeks ago. ill keep it till then, craigslist sale the week before maybe.
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for a second there it sounded like you picked up your TF 3, weeks ago before returning back to 2011 from 2012, so you can use it longer before the world blows up.

Thats what the hispanic guy said at the back of the truck. Seemed Legit

As I just brought mine last week. What should I do?

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As I just brought mine last week. What should I do?
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Nothing.
The device you have does what you bought it for I assume, so why worry?

Bought mine 4 weeks ago... and it is almost outdated? Damn! Can't keep up with this!

TF 2 could be buggy as **** so hang on to the one that works well. That's my rational behind keeping the one that i just bought a few days. That and I sell things on craigslist often.

Hopefully the new TF wont be as poorly produced as the original one.

Yeah, god forbid a mass produced piece of technology produced over seas have any flaws just like every other piece of technological hardware out currently. We Americans want what we pay for gosh darnit!

Nice. Just another reason for me to not go get akeyboard dock. If it doesn't work with the TF 2, I'll be pissed.
It's been said earlier that it will be the same price as the OG Transformer. Hopefully that $399 price tag stays true. I think that if it is true, Asus should have a trade-in program, we give them our TF1, they give us the TF2. Am I right or what?

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Nice. Just another reason for me to not go get akeyboard dock. If it doesn't work with the TF 2, I'll be pissed.
It's been said earlier that it will be the same price as the OG Transformer. Hopefully that $399 price tag stays true. I think that if it is true, Asus should have a trade-in program, we give them our TF1, they give us the TF2. Am I right or what?
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Maybe in a dream world. That would be beneficial for us, but no one else. It would raise the price for everyone else since they don't make much cash off it any way.
I was just going to gift my TF when the TF2 comes out.
The keyboard not working would be sad because they said it should continue to work with the TF line. However I bought the TF because I wanted it. If they replace everything, well, that's how this works isn't it? I will probably just whine until I can afford to buy a whole new set up and give the old one to my sister.

I'm pretty happy with my current TF. I'll let the TF2 come out and bugs be worked out before I hop on that train.

Will definitely wait to purchase another tablet. The TF is my very first tablet so its been a learning experience. This forum has also taught me plenty.
Not sure if Asus is my next buy, but whatever i choose, i will do so only if it has great video playback, netflix, great Quality ASsurance, etc.
Plus, i wont be first time adopter again..
Ill practice some patience next time.lol

Pretty happy with the TF, probably won't upgrade until Fall of 2012-2013. By then the TF3 will be out haha

Don't worry, and don't hurry!
There is a reason that all current android pads are based on the Nvidia chipset, Google made honeycomb on the Xoom as reference platform.
This will be different next year.. This time Texas Instruments will be google's partner. The first tablets will come Q1\Q2 2012...
Ok, Tegra3 will outperform the Tegra2 by far ...
but the advantages of a TI tablet will probably be way better than that , think of features and compatibility with upcoming android version(s)
This is why Nvidia is rushing with the tegra3 platform! They want to be first...
It's not smart , considering all the stores have tons of tegra2 devices in stock, they won't be sellable for a decent price within a few months. (tegra3 devices will be sold for the same price as current tegra2 devices)
Anyways, some serious price-wars next year... i will wait for the TI vs Nvidia rivalry next year
Let them fight first, we will win the battle (cheap hardware! )
http://tabletroms.com/index.php/2011/08/05/google-and-texas-instruments-partners-for-ics/

Asus said the dock would work with future version somewhere. i cant remember where exactly but it was a question when someone asked them when they first released it

One thing is certain..
dont buy HP touchpad.. (well..actually as a media only device at cheap price....hmmmm)
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/HP-to-end-mobile-products-may-apf-707823588.html?x=0

Post Christmas Eee Pad sale

Hi XDA,
I'm currently staying in Manhattan for another 3 weeks before returning back to New Zealand and wondering if any stores could be expected to repeat the Black Friday (or was it Cyber Monday?) sale price ($299?) for the Eee Pad? Or any tablet for that matter? Is this the done this time of year or have I missed out?
Cheers

January time there will be some for sure, with the release of the Prime.

I picked mine up from Futureshop for $299 on Black Friday.... Looked around today hoping it might be the same price for one for my wife, but nothing... Prime is still listed as pre-order here (Canada) (vs 'sold out') so it looks like they have no reason to drop the price until the Prime comes out. The salesman actually told me to wait... considering they are usually pushy and commission-driven I'll take that as a sign. Either way $299 seems to be the 'target' price for now...
Will post if I see anything...
Happy hunting!

Bestbuy normal price is now $299
Sent from my HTC Mecha

Still $399 at bb.ca.... go figure...

Bought in Italy 2 weeks ago for 199€ (few pieces, 1k in all Italian stores) and now I'm waiting for an offer to get the docking (i hope to see it around 80/90€)

That's USD$260, a very good deal!

I bought one from bestbuy today for 399.99
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Cloudsnightmare said:
I bought one from bestbuy today for 399.99
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Dude, why?

He is a rich kid out to destroy us. HE IS THE 1%!

I bought one from bestbuy today for 399.99 ]
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at least they have a good return policy... if it goes on sale in the next little while you can always get the difference... I actually bought two iconias and the transformer at the same time as they were constantly running out of stock. I test drove them all and keep kept checking for sales but because of GPS issues with the iconias I kept the transformer instead (though I did like the build and connectivity of the Acer better. aside from the better screen I also find the transformer to be slightly smoother as well.)
Now running revolver and blades3....
Whatever... enjoy your new transformer!

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at least they have a good return policy... if it goes on sale in the next little while you can always get the difference... I actually bought two iconias and the transformer at the same time as they were constantly running out of stock. I test drove them all and keep kept checking for sales but because of GPS issues with the iconias I kept the transformer instead (though I did like the build and connectivity of the Acer better. aside from the better screen I also find the transformer to be slightly smoother as well.)
Now running revolver and blades3....
Whatever... enjoy your new transformer!
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Dude this is a no no in my book as well. Don't abuse their return policy man. No one wants someone else's throw away.

i also buy mine for 399

Great! I will check this out today instore since the online price is still $399. Maybe other tablets will also be discounted...
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Cloudsnightmare said:
I bought one from bestbuy today for 399.99
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I paid $349. They wanted $399 but I had them price match the Comp USA price on line.
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taptotap said:
at least they have a good return policy... if it goes on sale in the next little while you can always get the difference... I actually bought two iconias and the transformer at the same time as they were constantly running out of stock. I test drove them all and keep kept checking for sales but because of GPS issues with the iconias I kept the transformer instead (though I did like the build and connectivity of the Acer better. aside from the better screen I also find the transformer to be slightly smoother as well.)
Now running revolver and blades3....
Whatever... enjoy your new transformer!
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This is why this forum is full of posts by people who bought a TF from a major retailer only to find that it had been modded or otherwise played with and now doesn't work properly. You would be the first to flaming the store that sold you a second hand item.

Rumbleweed said:
This is why this forum is full of posts by people who bought a TF from a major retailer only to find that it had been modded or otherwise played with and now doesn't work properly. You would be the first to flaming the store that sold you a second hand item.
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Dude this is a no no in my book as well. Don't abuse their return policy man. No one wants someone else's throw away.
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The only thing i did was install GPS test (a main concern for me) compare screens and build quality, and smoothness... made my choice, then factory reset, and return...
I`m kinda new to all this stuff but I'm sure thatsnot a big deal? I also did a factory reset before i brought it back....

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The only thing i did was install GPS test (a main concern for me) compare screens and build quality, and smoothness... made my choice, then factory reset, and return...
I`m kinda new to all this stuff but I'm sure thatsnot a big deal? I also did a factory reset before i brought it back....
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If your new at this stuff, then do your homework here before you buy. Might save you some headaches as well as factory reset may not clear all personal data.

dudes, that's withing policy that they have written. he did nothing wrong moral, legal, or mischievous. I ts true, due homework always when buying anything that costs so much.. Unfortunately alot of stores don't have real or working display models. on the other hand, and it's always a person ora group that ruins it for the rest of us. just a opinion. happy holidays to you and your families

Rumbleweed said:
This is why this forum is full of posts by people who bought a TF from a major retailer only to find that it had been modded or otherwise played with and now doesn't work properly. You would be the first to flaming the store that sold you a second hand item.
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What's the law about selling a used item as new in the US? Just curious...
Aren't the returns supposed to be returned back to the manufacturer to get refurbished and sold as such?

Just ordered my wife one of these for Xmas. SCREAMING good deals on Newegg/Tiger

She wants an "ipad" but by that she means a tablet. I can NOT justify spending $500 on a 16GB ipad or $400 on a 16GB Nexus 10 for that matter. The Infinity is really the only high end one that I would jump on but that is way overkill for what she is doing (pics, vids, music, web browsing, kindle). So I started looking for "budget" tablets and it was down to this or the Xoom. Xoom is $259-$270 manufacturer refurbished but we all know the TF101 blows it out of the water and Newegg/Tiger are selling them for $229 refurbished right meow. I trust Newegg and they have an amazing RMA policy AND they have extended returns all the way through January 1st no questions asked and free shipping. Kind of hard to beat.
Newegg deal $229 free shipping
Very excited to be getting this. She is not crazy big into rooting or ROM'ing but I'll be on here looking around so if she has any complaints that can be addressed by a ROM or something (like cleanROM on the Infinity) it'll be GTG.
Any advice for me before I wrap it up and leave it under the tree for her to wonder wth it is? Obviously going to test it as it is a Refurb so I have time to send it back and get a new one if its bad but is there like... MUST have mods to do to it or should it work fine for her out of the box stock ICS? Again, she is not an Android nerd like I am and only cares that it works and is fast for what she is doing. She wont' be doing any gaming minus light stuff to shut up our 4 year old in the car lol.
Thanks XDA

Any reason why you aren't considering the nexus 7 for her?

Size and expandable memory. Like I said she is going to be using it for pics, videos, books and browsing. Size matters to my wife. Lol

why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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I've had a TF101 from day 1 and just got a Nexus 7 to replace it. The TF101 has been good to me but wanted something faster, that could playback high profile encodes, easier to hold and under 400 bucks. I strongly considered the Nexus 10 but 16GB isn't cutting it anymore and I'm not paying 100 for another 16 gigs. I prefer non-metal construction so I love the nexus devices. The metal corners of the TF101 cut into your skin after a few mins. The no SD card was a big deal to me too but then I learned you can mount external storage if you just get a USB OTG adapter. For movies and music, not apps. I will miss the back camera most of all for video chatting, showing people things and my 1 year old doesn't exactly sit still. You will enjoy the TF101. If you want another used one let me know

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why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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Would love to see where. I can always return the tf101 to newegg no questions asked and have time to get a tf300.

scottyd035ntknow said:
Would love to see where. I can always return the tf101 to newegg no questions asked and have time to get a tf300.
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Here's one on bestbuy. Its 280 with free shipping
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...er_Sale_Tablets_and_EReaders_100929&cp=1&lp=3
They are also offering a 25$ cashback saving on this but thats only for today
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Global-...er/pcmcat288300050007.c?id=pcmcat288300050007
Haven't ordered it. Just saw it somewhere and thought I'd post it.

sdfghi said:
why are you not considering tf300? it's Tegra 3 and you can get a brand new one for around $270. There were a couple of deals in the last week for that amount and i'm sure there will be more of these...
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I agree here, return te TF101, while it is still a good tab, don't get me wrong, but getting her the 300 would actually be A LOT better in the long run. Less issues, JB out of the box, and only minimal mods to make it work fluidly. If she is a heavy texter, then I would suggest preinstalling a few apps like Tablet Talk (by one of our DEV'S here.) and maybe a few others that you think she might want to have on it.
But definately return the TF101 and get the 300. You're only a few bucks more into it, and in the long run it will be further supported. ASUS has already stated that they will provide KLP for the TF300 and up, where as the rest of us will be stopped at JB (for official ROM'S).

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I agree here, return te TF101, while it is still a good tab, don't get me wrong, but getting her the 300 would actually be A LOT better in the long run. Less issues, JB out of the box, and only minimal mods to make it work fluidly. If she is a heavy texter, then I would suggest preinstalling a few apps like Tablet Talk (by one of our DEV'S here.) and maybe a few others that you think she might want to have on it.
But definately return the TF101 and get the 300. You're only a few bucks more into it, and in the long run it will be further supported. ASUS has already stated that they will provide KLP for the TF300 and up, where as the rest of us will be stopped at JB (for official ROM'S).
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Oh yeah I had no idea the TF300 was available NEW for that price. And the nice thing about getting it at BB is I can get a 1 or 2 yr warranty on it. I think I could have with Newegg too but I like being able to take things to the store and talk to a person, even if it is the geeksquad...
Going to order the TF300 now and I'll RMA the 101 to Newegg when it comes in probably tomorrow.
Edit: Just ordered, picking up in store, $299 after tax, the TF101 REFURB was $246 after tax so an extra $53 for a MUCH better tablet. And factor in the $25 gift card and that makes it $274. I can use the $25 to get a present for my brother in law or something so with the gift card only $29 more to go to a new TF300 from refurbished TF101. You guys rock and THANK YOU SDFGHI for those links. Heck I almost bought two but I don't see myself using a tablet really that much. I think the screen on my smartphone is big enough and if not I got a lapdock for it for $50 last month that turns it into an 11" Android netbook. If I do get one for me I'll probably be a selfish ass and get the Infinity for me lol.

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Oh yeah I had no idea the TF300 was available NEW for that price. And the nice thing about getting it at BB is I can get a 1 or 2 yr warranty on it. I think I could have with Newegg too but I like being able to take things to the store and talk to a person, even if it is the geeksquad...
Going to order the TF300 now and I'll RMA the 101 to Newegg when it comes in probably tomorrow.
Edit: Just ordered, picking up in store, $299 after tax, the TF101 REFURB was $246 after tax so an extra $53 for a MUCH better tablet. And factor in the $25 gift card and that makes it $274. I can use the $25 to get a present for my brother in law or something so with the gift card only $29 more to go to a new TF300 from refurbished TF101. You guys rock and THANK YOU SDFGHI for those links. Heck I almost bought two but I don't see myself using a tablet really that much. I think the screen on my smartphone is big enough and if not I got a lapdock for it for $50 last month that turns it into an 11" Android netbook. If I do get one for me I'll probably be a selfish ass and get the Infinity for me lol.
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You are quite welcome from my end. At least we can see that you thought it through clearly and decided that a LITTLE more for NEW was better then a little less for refurbished. Correct buying it at BB you can get the extended warranty, get the ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE ALSO. Found that out with my wife's DSLR, strap holder broke, letting the camera fall from her neck and hit the iced over concrete. It looked like that scene from Terminator 2 when the liquid metal terminator got froze then shot and exploded.
Sadly (not really) they no longer made or had available the same camera I had initially bought my wife, so they had to *sigh* upgrade her to the next one up. Now if I buy something from them I make sure to get the max extended warranty and the accidental damage coverage.
Also as a side note, just root it before she even opens it. Set it up for side loading and all all ready.

I might root it... I dunno its all nice in the shrinkwrap right now and I'd like her to open something brand new. Then again I'd probably be better off checking it... And damn I completely spaced my own advice on getting the protection plan. Probably should gander on back and pick it up for the tablet. Either way she's going to flip **** because she says she doesn't really want anything for xmas but I KNOW she is dying for a tablet.