New or old market - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I will be getting a nook color this week and was wondering whether it was better to freeze the old market or get the new one with doing problems
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More clarification, I will be installing CM7, and from all of the market issues that I hear, and then having to change the DPI of the nook color so that the market would work and would only work when you delete market data. My questions was to the people for opinions, is it worth it to let the market update to the new version, or should I use Titanium Backup to freeze the old market so it doesn't update

I would vote to use the new market. The DPI is now set to 160 by default in the latest CM7 nightlies, and I only had to delete my market data once, the first time I used it after the change. Now, it's reading and updating all of my apps properly!
I was using the frozen updater and old market trick for a while, but it wouldn't ever show me the apps that needed updating. If I used a program like AppBrain, it would try to bring up the market links, but they wouldn't load. I could manually search for the apps that needed updating, and then update them that way, but that was a PITA!
Ever since the switch to 160, things have been running smoothly, and it works so much better!

bass0324 said:
More clarification, I will be installing CM7, and from all of the market issues that I hear, and then having to change the DPI of the nook color so that the market would work and would only work when you delete market data. My questions was to the people for opinions, is it worth it to let the market update to the new version, or should I use Titanium Backup to freeze the old market so it doesn't update
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There appears to have been a google-server-side fix that occurred a week (or 2) ago, and the market issue seems to have largely been solved. That said, the market IS enforcing device awareness now, and there's still a couple things to keep in mind: 1) full market only appears to be fully supported at "standard" dpi settings, which for now is 160 (for tablet offerings) and 240 (for phones), so all non-standard dpi's will show a restricted market, and 2) some apps have device dependencies (which you can blame on the devs, not the market) and will probably never show up for us from now on.
ETA: and as far as 1.3 goes, there may be something else in the B&N build.prop (or an associated file) that the market is picking up in its device awareness checks. Oh, and since 1.3 is still Froyo, that may be part of the problem.

I would say new market. Even if you flash the RC CM7.1 just change the LCD density to 160 using an app and you'll have all the apps.

Go with the new Market, at least 3.1.5.
There is no point to use the old version.

Thanks, I appreciate your input
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New Market

I don't see much in forums on new market. Any one running the new market on 1.2 with 4.6.16? Which version are you running. Any issues? Thx
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I'm using the old version of it, was 1.2.6 or something like that, can't remember.
I don't know how to update (or auto-update) but since the old one doesn't give me any problem, I won't bother install new one.
mine auto updated last night.
Mine auto updated last night, and it caught me by surprise. It took me a second to realize what had happened. I can't say I'm a big fan of it so far, but maybe it will grow on me.
New market didn't work for me, I installed the apk over the old market and some things weren't available, like google earth, so I uninstalled the update and everythings back and available.
Not sure if anyone else is having problems with the new version
Mine just auto updated, I like it although it does seem a little cluttered. maybe that is becuase it is not for a screen this big?
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New market didn't work for me, I installed the apk over the old market and some things weren't available, like google earth, so I uninstalled the update and everythings back and available.
Not sure if anyone else is having problems with the new version
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Im not sure thats as much a "problem." it looks like google is blocking apps going forward on devices they don't deam the app compatible on.
john10101 said:
Im not sure thats as much a "problem." it looks like google is blocking apps going forward on devices they don't deam the app compatible on.
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Issue I have with the new market is blocking of apps other then google. Example being Net Swiss Tool which is an excellent network PD tool. Also textwarrior. Neither of these can be installed with the new market but can be with the old. Found this out when I was doing a emmc dual boot config using CM nightly and was reinstalling things. No I had not done a backup. With the new market I could not install these two apps. I got the old market app out of the gapps zip file and installed. Could then install the apps that I could not with the new market.
neither of these apps make use of anything like GPS so am not sure why the new market will not let you install.
At least I was able to install the old market. The apps both run fine by the way.
--bill
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Im not sure thats as much a "problem." it looks like google is blocking apps going forward on devices they don't deam the app compatible on.
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That's funny too in that the apps that weren't available in the new market work great after having gotten them from the old market. Especially when you consider a couple apps I picked up in the new market don't fill the screen on my nook, aren't compatible!
productofusa said:
That's funny too in that the apps that weren't available in the new market work great after having gotten them from the old market. Especially when you consider a couple apps I picked up in the new market don't fill the screen on my nook, aren't compatible!
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I think that has more to do with when you originally downloaded them, not what version of the market you are using. Google made the market "device aware" about a month ago.
I'm not particularly impressed with the new market -- I liked the previous version better.
I've also noticed that the new market doesn't let me install some apps like the old market did. For example - the FBReader app - it reports as not being compatible in the new market, but the old market it does show as compatible. Not sure why. I know I have my build.prop set to "htc" so the Netflix works -- but that doesn't explain why some apps are showing incompatible in the new app versus the old.
I found quite a few like that, actually. So much so, I uninstalled the market update and went back to the old green market.
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I think that has more to do with when you originally downloaded them, not what version of the market you are using. Google made the market "device aware" about a month ago.
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Not true -- I tried downloading FBReader for the first time yesterday. New Market wouldn't let me - so I uninstalled the new market, and the old market let me just fine. I saw this behavior across a few apps in the new market - so nixed its update and went back to the old, green market.
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I think that has more to do with when you originally downloaded them, not what version of the market you are using. Google made the market "device aware" about a month ago.
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I agree with wifflepig, as I've had my nc for only two weeks. (god I love this thing!!)
That suggests that the new market app itself is device aware and the old one was not, or not completely. Going directly to the market website while logged in on your PC will show the FB app as not compatible. The website won't let you set it up for a download either. I have a pending request with Google for more info but so far no answer. The first response was to contact the developer for the FB app, so I wrote them back and told them I used FB as an example. Clearly they did not really read my original email and I could see in the response that their filters picked up key words to formulate the response. I suspect "Brian" was a bot....

New Market 3.x.x irritating me to no end.

So I have noticed something about the new market that is really discouraging me from customizing my phone. I found the method of changing my lcd density to see more info on my screen at one time. I found the right setting so that all of mt apps work and do not force close. I set it to 182 and its gorgeous.
However.... the market tells me that almost every app is incompatible with my device. Let's take the example of Gun Bros. I installed it the day I got my phone and had it ever since. It works perfectly well at 182. When the released the latest update that added grenades I had to update and the market tells me "f... you, you can't have this" well not in those words but you get the idea.
Thinking that perhaps the update really did make it incompatible I gave up on the game untill I noticed almost every app said the same thing. In the process of diagnosing this issue I uninstalled all market updates. Same issue persisted. Data still reflected a different device even on the web market. I reset my phone to stock, resigned in to google,accepted market terms, Installed new market, and what do you know I could update my apps.
This is when I changed my lcd density. The very next time I opened the market it made me accept the terms again told me my apps were incompatible again. Yet every app I open with the most recent updates all run just fine.
Now I guess I spend an unknown amount of time either finding a way around this or restoring the old market just to update my apps.
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You could also easily change the screen density back to stock in the build.prop, reboot, update your apps, then set the density back and reboot again.
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[Q] New Market and FC

Hello!
New Market on motorola Xoom Wi-fi every time I want to upgrade giving me FC. I don't know how to fix it. Tried to delete upgrade install on the Application but it is upgrading by itself. Tried to clear the cash, clear data.
Nothing helps.
Please, who know how to fix this problem? Looks like new Market doesn't work on Honeycomb.
Guys, help me, please? I really need your advice?
Thank you!
What market version do you have?
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If you have Documents to Go installed, remove it. It has a problem with the manifest and Dataviz needs to update it, you can use the version from their website in the interim.
Or grab today's free Amazon Apps, Quick Office and Quick Office HD.
Tried everything. Market. 3.1.6, market 3.3.1.1 or something like that, all of them giving me fc.
Guys, please, I need a solution. Can somebody give some advice, please? Or maybe somebody have old mafket app flashable trough cwm? Because google doing nothing for honeycomb.
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The problem is almost certainly related to an installed app, if you don't have Documents to Go installed, started removing apps one at a time until the market begins working properly and report back when you identify the offending app.
I had a thread for the same thing a page or so back.
documents to go didnt seem to cause me much grief (but i removed it anyway), but i did have a problem with Enhanced Email FCing the market (which i also ended up removing on the xoom, working fine on the desire).
noticed my market updated itself to 3.3.1.1 (or similar) the other night too - same problems as the last version.
just waiting for ICS update now and will see if that fixes stuff - I imagine it will and/or devs will update their apps to ICS
Do you have apps that you side loaded that the market reported as not compatible? I get the market FC any time one of my side loaded apps tries to update.
I found that it was a certain alternative market that caused me to "loose" all of my apps... I thought that it was the new market and even went back to the moray 2.2.1 to have the old market.
I figured out it was that other market because I uninstalled it and bingo, I had my apps...
I was pretty stupid and used titanium backup to "force" the market links and ended up with one heck of a messed up android market.... Now I am working through that..
Uninstalled the app called "Download all files" and sims like everything working for now.
Thank you very much!
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actually i think i had getjar on there... that's missing from the supermarché now - I wonder if that was the issue
i was also guessing that by the time ICS hits the xoom - and all the devs update their apps for that most of this issue should go away
FWIW, I had the exact same problem I uninstalled Enhanced Email and the problem went away. Too bad, I really like Enhanced Email!
ebamit said:
FWIW, I had the exact same problem I uninstalled Enhanced Email and the problem went away. Too bad, I really like Enhanced Email!
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I'm sure it'll be fixed soon . Dev is good at updates
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Android Market Error Message - "Your Device Is Not Compatible"

I've been struggling with this issue today, and just found the "solution" so I wanted to post it here in case anyone else has this problem.
Cause:
No Apps in the Market were updating, including stock Google Apps (including Google Maps!)
Every App - Including Ones that were installed on my phone would get a "your device is not compatible" error message.
Solution:
Change the Density size back to stock 240. Clear the data of the Android Market, and then everything should be running again.
Final Comments:
This was driving me nuts because I've had my density size at 260 since day one with my Atrix, and now this has become an issue "when it was never an issue before". Anywhoo... I updated all my apps, and then changed my Density back to 260 because I hate small icons/fonts.
Like I said this is a new issue that's never happened to me before, and possibly other Atrix owners may have the same issue, so hopefully this writeup may help somebody else out...
I think I remember encountering this issue before and got frustrated and just started everything over. Ill keep this in mind for future reference though, thanks!
Running MIUI Alpha
THX!
It's been driving me nuts trying to figure out why that message was appearing.
rjohnstone said:
THX!
It's been driving me nuts trying to figure out why that message was appearing.
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NP... Believe me I've tried EVERY solution that I could think of over the past 2 weeks on and off. When I finally figured it out and got things working, I dropped everything that I had going on and wrote that up.
Knowing that it helped at least one person made it all worth while...
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A similar issue happened to me. A month ago i bought SimCity Deluxe, then i change my Rom and the Android Market said to me that this game was not compatible with my phone. The problem is that now it is not compatible with every Rom I flash, stock also.
density should be @240 not 260
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sambaeallegria said:
A similar issue happened to me. A month ago i bought SimCity Deluxe, then i change my Rom and the Android Market said to me that this game was not compatible with my phone. The problem is that now it is not compatible with every Rom I flash, stock also.
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having this issue with Block Breaker 3. just wondering if anyone knows how to alter build.prop for Atrix 4G to work around this annoying issue.
EDIT: solved.
edit build.prop (I used Rom Toolbox Pro), change the following (and ONLY the following):
ro.product.model=Nexus S
ro.product.brand=Samsung
however. once I got my game(s) working, I realized WHY my device isn't compatible: the display size (resolution) is too big. d'oh!
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density should be @240 not 260
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While 240 is a standard density, the Atrix screen is actually 275ppi. The moar you know.
thank you for the solution, i run into this exact issue time to time when i switch to a different ROM. I had this recently on the new Neutrino ROM with Instagram, but if i logged into google play through the web on pc, i could install Instagram with no issues. Only on the phone in the google play store it would tell me my device isn't compatible but it would still install if i did it through the google play website.
This is actually an issue that HP Touchpad users have been trying to figure out. Basically, the Android Market only likes specific DPIs to make things easier on app developers. So if its not 120, 160, 240 or 320 things break. IMO its stupid since good coding practices should allow an app to cleanly scale, but Google apparently feels otherwise.
It is possible to patch the market to work on other densities, but I've had no luck finding a patched version of the most current market.
I had hoped this was my problem, but alas didn't work. This worked for Navigon update, but for google maps it says my device isn't compatible, which of course it is. It actually doesn't even see that I've got Maps installed anymore.
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I had hoped this was my problem, but alas didn't work. This worked for Navigon update, but for google maps it says my device isn't compatible, which of course it is. It actually doesn't even see that I've got Maps installed anymore.
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I had that issue happen to me when I updated to 3.5.15. What I ended having to do was first uninstall all market updates. Then I replace vending.apk in the system/app directory with an older version and set the permissions to rwer--r-- (normally it would be rw-r--r--, but it wouldn't work for me). After that reboot the phone. Then go back to the vending.apk you placed in the system/app directory and change the permissions back to the way they were before you changed them. Next you should be able to launch the market and it should update to the play store after a few minutes. All my google apps were recognized again.
Fix
1. Go into Settings, Apps, All
2. Find Google Play - Clear Data
3. Find Google Services Framework - Clear Data
Should be OK now
If not, Install Market Enabler, redo above - then fake USA market once and should be OK.

Google Locked Me Out of the Market!

Today, around 5:00pm CST, I found that I could no longer update or find many of my installed apps. This has happened several times in the past, usually after installing a new custom ROM. I am currently on Simple Streak 1.2 with PerfUpdate.
I tried all of the "tricks" I know to get it to work. Cleared the cache and data in the Market app. I use v2.3.6 of the Market, so I installed the latest v3.4.4. All installed apps showed up but nearly all of the PAID apps said "not compatible". I also changed the fingerprint in build.prop. NOTHING WORKED!
I called Google Market Help tonight and after 20 minutes of clearing data and cache in Market app, Un-mounting and re-mounting sd card, and explaining to the tech that I have never been able to send apps from the Market to my Streak when logged into the Market on my PC, the tech put me on hold for 2-3 minutes. When he returned, he asked if my device was rooted and if it had a non-stock ROM. I answered yes to both. He then told me that Google has locked me out of my PAID apps because I have violated the Market policy by rooting and modifying the ROM in my device. He went on to say that "ROM developers put malicious code in their ROMs" and for that reason I was locked out of my PAID apps. He told me that I would be able to access my paid apps if I re-install the stock ROM and do not re-root the device.
I pointed out that there are numerous apps sold in the Market that are specifically for rooted devices or for rooting devices. He said this is true as Google does not limit the content of the apps. Only the access to the Market following purchase of those apps. I told him if I wanted a locked down device that I would have purchased an iPhone.
I have not changed my ROM since the day Simple Streak v1.2 was released. He said they finally caught up with me today. I guess I am a Rooted Android Criminal!!!
Since speaking with him, I have discovered many of my purchased apps are "no longer compatible or not found" as are a few of the free apps, primarily any free app dealing with rooting the device such as Root Explorer, Lookout Security, and Handcent SMS. Paid apps include Kaiten Mail, 3g Watchdog Pro, Visual Voicemail Plus.
I tried restoring a Nandroid backup from yesterday before the problem started but it didn't help.
I'm wondering if I just install the DSC Gingerbread Rom instead of the "Original Stock ROM", would the Market work? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I also asked if installing apps from Amazon would cause this problem. He said "it shouldn't." He didn't say "NO." Could this be Google tightening up things to increase Market sales and shut out Amazon? Just speculating.
I am also curious if anyone else is having this difficulty. Either with a Streak 5 or any other Android device. Seems Big Bother is Watching!!!
kraz
OMG.
Looks like new piracy wave is coming soon with such policy changes.
Time to reread Market agreement.
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2.1 and 2.2 clearly states they can do it.
Use black markets and be black ninja
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OMG.
Looks like new piracy wave is coming soon with such policy changes.
Time to reread Market agreement.
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2.1 and 2.2 clearly states they can do it.
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I don't dispute that. The problem seems to be that they ARE doing that. I wonder what % of Android devices are rooted and what % have a custom ROM?
If I can't use the Market, I will have to get the updates and new apps somewhere else. The developers are the ones that will take the financial hit for this policy. That's too bad. The weird part is that I am locked out of my PAID apps, not very many of the free ones. That doesn't make any sense. I'm being punished for supporting the developers?!!!
kraz
If I remember correctly LA for devs states that Google can freely remove/limit access for published apps.
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Have you only one Android device to check whether device or full account is locked?
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Anyway, i'd feel absolutely clean using pirated, but previously paid for apps.
But just to get more paranoid - more and more people use Google services. For business too. Time to rethink "let's move it to cloud" strategy and move data you really need access everytime and everywhere to own file/mail solutions?
According to the tech, my device is locked out until I re-install the "Original Stock ROM from the Manufacturer". He said I would then get full access again and I will be able to update the ROM to "any newer Stock ROMs released by the original manufacturer."
Personally, I'm not convinced it isn't because of the few Amazon apps I have installed.
kraz
@_n0p_
Would changing the fingerprint in build prop to something new, open the Market? If so, would you PM me the fingerprint line from the DSC ROM? Thank you!
kraz
It would be a major pain, but you could make a nandroid backup of your current setup, then install a stock rom (preferably 407, since you wouldn't need to change baseband), set it up minimally (basically just go through the initial setup with your google account), and make a nandroid of it. Verify that market works in the stock rom, then switch via nandroid restore. My guess would be that Google is only randomly spot checking and you could go possibly months before being "kicked" again. When that happens, make another nandroid backup (to be current), then restore the stock nandroid backup, check the market, and restore back. The downside is about 20 minutes of your time each time you get kicked. I searched the internet for similar cases to yours and thankfully couldn't find much. Almost all results were related to renting movies and had nothing to do with apps.
I'm running DSC and here is the fingerprint:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/sojua/crespo:2.3.6/GRK39C/178324:user/release-keys
I was trying to figure out why would google care what rom we have installed, rooted or not. I guess they don't like that we can remove advertising on the free software. diane
Thanks to _n0p_ and lordmorphous for the DSC fingerprint.
Unfortunately, it didn't work. However, more of my paid apps are accessible today. I have no idea why that would change. The remaining apps that I have already paid for will have to get updated through a black market site. I have already paid for them so I don't feel guilty about updating that way. Also, I have contacted several of the devs and they are willing to send me the updates directly as I have helped them beta test in the past.
Thanks to all for your suggestions and help!
kraz
The same thing happened to me... then i switched to power_rom evergreen and things was back to normal...
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My streak is coming with 2.2 (will arrive on Tuesday) Are there other DELL updates ??
shEEEsh said:
My streak is coming with 2.2 (will arrive on Tuesday) Are there other DELL updates ??
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There's the Korean Olleh 2.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20509757#post20509757
On topic, what Google are doing is shocking. I have not rooted since adb does all I want to do, but I think that locking people out of their paid apps is a horrible move.
Are you running any custom DPI? I am guessing that may more to do with this.
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Are you running any custom DPI? I am guessing that may more to do with this.
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Yes, for the past 14 months! But that has nothing to do with this problem. As I said in my OP, Google Market Help tech said in a phone conversation that I have been locked out of my paid apps because my device is rooted and has a custom ROM. The Market worked perfectly until 5pm yesterday. Nothing on my device changed to create this problem. The tech said Google wants to tighten things up as they are convinced that rooted and custom ROM'd devices are the source of the viruses in the Market. He said, "Developers of custom ROMs intentionally put malicious code in their ROMs."
This problem isn't the same problem we had when we were first using DJ Steve's ROMs in 2010. That was due to fingerprint and screen density issues.
kraz
I found a fix!!!
This app LCD Density Modder Pro (must be the PRO version) $2.99 in The Market fixed my problem, and that of every poster so far in that thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428830
Well worth the money!!! TAKE THAT GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kraz
I ran into the "app not compatible" issue after playing around with build.prop and some wifi settings. I did some searching and it appears all you usually need to do is clear the data and cache of "Google Services Framework".
Go to settings)applications)manage applications)all)google services framework,
clear both,
go back to market and give it a few seconds to a minute to populate your apps and try to update.
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krazman325 said:
This app LCD Density Modder Pro (must be the PRO version) $2.99 in The Market fixed my problem, and that of every poster so far in that thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428830
Well worth the money!!! TAKE THAT GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kraz
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If that worked, do you have a non-standard dpi?
If you did then it's (likely) simply a combination of:
1) Service rep spouting FUD
2) The way the market works now
The pro version (seems) to only include a link to a modified version of the market with dpi checking dummied out.
My preferred dpi is 200. HOWEVER, I changed my dpi with Blade Buddy to standard 160 and it still didn't work. Using LCD Density Modder with 160 made ALL my installed apps visible AND, more importantly, compatible to upgrade to my Streak. My Streak remains at 200dpi when I leave the Market and return to Home Screen and other apps.
Trust me, this is no placebo! It really works. Some of my apps have been unable to upgrade to the next release since I first used DJ Steves StreakDroid 1.46 custom Froyo 12/2010!!!
As for service rep spouting FUD....I prefer to call it spouting BS!
kraz
Telal said:
I ran into the "app not compatible" issue after playing around with build.prop and some wifi settings. I did some searching and it appears all you usually need to do is clear the data and cache of "Google Services Framework".
Go to settings)applications)manage applications)all)google services framework,
clear both,
go back to market and give it a few seconds to a minute to populate your apps and try to update.
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Saw that and did that. All it did was make EVERY one of my free apps disappear from the My Apps Market list. And the paid apps ALL became incompatible. I was better off before I tried this technique.
LCD Density Modder Pro fixed it perfectly in less than 5 minutes from the time I tapped "BUY".
kraz
Switching DPIs doesnt make it instantly detected by the market app, if you just do nothing and wait it can take days to be detected.
Clearing the market cache makes it faster, but even that isnt always instant.

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