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[Q] 3.14 ROM Update and WiFi Tethering: Deliberate Sabotage by T-Mobile??

I've been looking at the T-Mobile official support forum on their website, and seeing quite a few people with problems running WiFi (or not being able to get it going again) and WiFi tethering after updating to the new 3.14 ROM.
Is it a coincidence that T-Mobile is announcing a new Tethering Plan just after this update? Or did T-Mobile deliberately "kill" WiFi tethering to force users to buy the new Tethering plan?

Asquared said:
I've been looking at the T-Mobile official support forum on their website, and seeing quite a few people with problems running WiFi (or not being able to get it going again) and WiFi tethering after updating to the new 3.14 ROM.
Is it a coincidence that T-Mobile is announcing a new Tethering Plan just after this update? Or did T-Mobile deliberately "kill" WiFi tethering to force users to buy the new Tethering plan?
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Wifi tether was never on the HD2 to begin with, so nobody will know if it was a coincidence or not.

Indeed, WiFi tethering is something that has to be added by the end user, so it was never officially sanctioned by T-Mobile to begin with...but as far as intentionally screwing it up, I do not think T-Mobile would do such a thing. I mean comeon, they aren't Apple afterall. I personally chalk it up to a poor WiFi driver stack provided in the new ROM. Installing a new radio MAY help, but it's unlikely.

Here's my theory:
It seems to me that the 3.14 ROM has a feature to turn off or put your data connection in standby mode, (same deal with the wifi), when the device is idle... Which makes sense. It also turns off your data connection if you are connected to wifi. Still makes sense. SO if you are using your phone as a wifi router, that means you are probably on your other device and not on your HD2 and it's idle, so it shuts it down.
Most likely it was implemented to save battery life as well as save wasted network data.
You can't really call it sabotage when this device didn't come with a wifi router program in the first place. Not even an oversight by the developers. Although I admittedly did feel a little cheated when I realized that the US HD2 didn't come with the wifi hot spot. It was one of the features that was highlighted by HTC's marketing team for the HD2. It was also one of the main reasons that I wanted the phone, besides the fact that the screen was huge and it looked awesome. Of course once I started nerding out on it I quickly found that I could just install a cab.
If my theory is correct, maybe someone will come up with a work around. If not, then those of you who depend on the wifi tethering and want a stock ROM, should install Shehrams stock 2.13 ROM with the 2.10 touch drivers. It's pretty much flawless with the exception of a few minor known 2.13 issues. There aren't many. The biggest one for me was the touch sensitivity, which this ROM fixes. With the 2.10 touch drivers 2.13 is pretty great.
Obviously you do need to have HSPL to flash the ROM, but you can always go back to stock by flashing a stock ROM from a microSD card.

I just got around to testing this and i've been connected to my HD2 Wifi Router for over an hour on the web and it hasn't disconnected once... Which program are you using? Also my Wifi signal is great.

ditto on the wrong program, tom codon still works for me.

mr8820 said:
ditto on the wrong program, tom codon still works for me.
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Yep. Tom Codon for pres.

I really don't see the need for wi-fi tethering. What is its advantage over Bluetooth or USB tethering?

me said:
I really don't see the need for wi-fi tethering. What is its advantage over Bluetooth or USB tethering?
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BT is sssssssssslllllllloooooooowwwww compared to wifi tethering and USB tethering
the main advantage over USB tethering is no cable required. The disadvantage is sucking the life right out of your phone's battery

anhyeuemmaimai said:
BT is sssssssssslllllllloooooooowwwww compared to wifi tethering and USB tethering
the main advantage over USB tethering is no cable required. The disadvantage is sucking the life right out of your phone's battery
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Has anyone compared WiFi VS USB tether speeds? I would think USB would be faster.

Air card is it possible

let me first start off by telling you that in no way shape or form am I skilled enough to be a developer nor am I asking the deleloper with the skill to take this on. I have searched a few forum and I really can't find any info about this subject.
I have a siearra wireless card USB598 the service is provided by Sprint, Does anyone know if it would be possible to make this work on the gtab? Or is it even possible to make it work in an android system?
When I plug the card in it powers up and seems to be doing what the card does but like you could guess it does nothing else. I didn't expect it to do anything else but I didn't think it would even power on.

I am not a developer either, but off the top of my head (devs feel free to correct me):
You would need drivers for the AirCard (no idea, but maybe the Linux drivers [if they are made for the card might work])
You would also need some sort of software to have the AirCard connect to the mobile network and to have the GTab use the Aircard as a means of communication
Dan

Velcro a mifi onto the back. : -)
Sent from my GTablet-TnT-Lite using Tapatalk

I have an air-card, as well. It's on my list of to do's but it will be tricky at best.
I had a sierra air-card a few years back, and got it to work with Ubuntu using some ppp commands. I figure that would be the most likely route in Android, since it has some *nix similarities, but I haven't gotten very far.
If you look at "dmesg", your card might be loading up. But the problem is actually getting old modems commands to it to get it running. I think.

ultimind said:
Velcro a mifi onto the back. : -)
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YES! Sprint Overdrive 4G! WooHoo!

It'd be a lot easier to try one of the 3G/4G-to-local wireless "boxes" available through many wireless providers (I use MyWi on my jailbroken iPhone 3GS though I'm looking into clear.com's service on the go). That way not only your GTablet, but your laptop and other devices can connect to the same connection and even your friends.

The air card is provided by my employer so I'm kind of stuck with it and getting into a myfi device isn't an option.
It's not really a huge issue I can always tether to my phone, It would just be nice to pop in the card and be up and running. The card also has gps built into it and I could see some use in that too.
I think drivers are going to be the biggest issue the MFG only supports MS and MAC, but there are some threads out on the web were people have gotten them to work in ubuntu. Beyond the driver issue there still needs to be some type of dialing software. On a windows box you can use a simple dialing software and dial a #77 and it will connect.
One other thing that this card has the ability to do is NDIS where the card becomes a network card and as soon as it's inserted into a pc it connects automatically but I'm almost 100% sure that it is still software based.
Thanks for the feed back.

greyspacealien said:
The air card is provided by my employer so I'm kind of stuck with it and getting into a myfi device isn't an option.
It's not really a huge issue I can always tether to my phone, It would just be nice to pop in the card and be up and running. The card also has gps built into it and I could see some use in that too.
I think drivers are going to be the biggest issue the MFG only supports MS and MAC, but there are some threads out on the web were people have gotten them to work in ubuntu. Beyond the driver issue there still needs to be some type of dialing software. On a windows box you can use a simple dialing software and dial a #77 and it will connect.
One other thing that this card has the ability to do is NDIS where the card becomes a network card and as soon as it's inserted into a pc it connects automatically but I'm almost 100% sure that it is still software based.
Thanks for the feed back.
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For the ZT-180 tablets we got a number of these going as they looked like serial modem interfaces using ppp via the USB (might need to turn off/disable) any builtin diskstore... there sometimes required a build.prop edit to set the tty correct... I'd normally say look over on Slatedroid at our zt180 section as there were a few threads for different 3G dongles but mostly similar instructions... except slatedroid's been bottom up the last 30 or so hours... the zt-180 thread here is HUGE but I suspect you could find most of the same info scattered throughtout there also as maybe a starting point...

Novatel Ovation U727
The Ovation U727 supports Linux in addition to Windows & MAC. Data sheet indicates it has built in GPS-A in addition to 3G. Anyone tried one of these? I might get a used one & give it a try.

[Q] Tab 4 7.0 forgets wifi

After an hour on the device it simply forgets it's connected. Even if I'm watching a movie it will stop aND say no connection. I've returned it once so I think it is software vs hardware. Anyone else?
Goofy

I had a 7.0 for a week and not one had problems
Sent from my HTC One_M8

Yeah mine does that also, not my fave, but I just turn the wifi off and then back on again. Sometimes it only stays on the wifi for 10 minutes! Hope there is a fix at some point.
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Seems like a Samsung issue....
Looks like all along the Galaxy lineup there are wifi issues.
I tried everything, preventing wifi from sleeping, using wifi fixer, nothing seems to work.
Sometimes my wifi will stay connected, the upload will work, but I get no download.
Rebooting wifi on quick toggle seems to only do the trick.

Have you all updated the software?
Sent from my HTC One_M8

smknutson said:
Have you all updated the software?
Sent from my HTC One_M8
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Yep, I updated to the latest software the moment I received the tab

Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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smknutson said:
Hmm, have you tried with more than one WiFi connection?
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Yep, seems to do it more often with a 5Ghz connection than 2.4 though.
None of my other 5Ghz devices (3 iPhones and an iPad) drop wifi.
Signal is on clearest channel available.
Pretty much isolated everything outside of this tablet.
I'm pretty techy with my home networking, so I'm at a loss with this one.

Yes, it has been updated and yes it has occurred on my home wifi, my work wifi, my doctor's office wifi, and unfortunately the hospital's wifi. All with the same outcome! My S5 doesn't do it nor did my S4 running Kit Kat.

So, still no fixes for this! As a previous poster now it is getting where if I'm playing a game it will drop after 10 minutes! I have power save off everything. While hitting the WIFI on off button works it is highly annoying! I want my WIFI all the time not when my tablet thinks I should!
Goofy

Think I have a solution http://tinyurl.com/nfbgxds
Hope 5th is will help out so far so good for me!

I just got this tab 4 7 inch last week and I am having the same problem with connections showing connected but not having any data transfer. The steps in the above link did not help for me.
I have updated to the latest firmware posted on sammobile, both the Canada version and the nook (BNN) version. Neither have made a difference.
I have found another thread in thisnforrum for this same problem, and there wasn't any solution there either.
I did find wha I think might be solution but haven't proofed it yet. in the build prop there was two "ro.carrier" lines. I think there is only supposed to be one, so I commented out one.
Original Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.

Same issue here. Sometimes I have to cycle the WiFi every webpage!
Both of the above solutions didn't work for me, unfortunately.
Edit: Okay, I may have found the issue, at least for me. Turns out, the tablet was auto-assigning the same IP as my RasPi. After setting a static IP, everything looks okay from here. Hope this helps!

Changing to static IP did nothing, I was having to reset wifi on the tab every time I turned on the screen.
I even had wifi fixer constantly running.
Finally updated to NJ3 and everything is working properly.
Looks like it's a FW issue.

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mrmazak said:
Example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
ro.carrier=unknown
Changed example:
ro.carrier=wifi only
#ro.carrier=unknown
If anybody can confirm this makes a difference or not please post results
EDIT::
After two weeks without problem anymore it appears the fix was the static IP address not the build prop change.
I found threads going back to at least 2007 about Samsung devices having trouble with dhcp and all the solutions being manually assign a static IP to the device.
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It should be one line:
ro.carrier=wifi-only
Script can be added however by attacting to the rom on the correct line parameters and scripting for digital on board configuration (no smart card) QMAL gsm, gprs, 3g, 4g, even lte or 5g, or 6g, no sim card required researve slot for world phone, or dual networking. The problem is each phone has to be separately programmed so cell companiesnhave walked away from needing higher qualified employees by switching to smart cards. Cost way less and employes way less people and note, your phone didnt cost you a penny less. I been doing cell phone tweaking since the motorolla brick was cool. Currently I used Samsung Galaxy Note 8010 64-bit 32 gig converted to XAC (its the industry's mobile payment recieveing device you see at bars, its made from the model previous mentioned)[to-wit-it says on their site not to tell anyone about]-or else- build then added Debian, Jessie. Then switched the imei to XAC, installed the telephony.manager.is_network_roaming=true along with the prpper scripting for the support and am hooked up to Sask-Tell. Once I got it connected and registered so it had a sign in address with the system i swutched the imei to all 000000000000's now they dont even send me a bill. But it works. The guy at the phone company couldnt even tell me where i was calling him from and he said my phone was disconnected while I was on the phone with him from the disconnected number. lmfao have a good day.

[Q] 4G wont connect to internet while wifi is connected to non internet device.

Hi,
My 3dr solo drone uses my edge+ for displaying flight info and google maps for the area i am flying in, well at least it should have, and it works brilliantly on all other brands like moto, nexus, nvidia tablet etc..
The problem seems to exist on a all samsung galaxy device, tested it on my Tab S as well, and have gotten the same answer from other users with other galaxy devices.
Even if the wifi is connected to a non internet device the phone should be able to connect to internet through the 4g at the same time, but that doesn't happen, cant be an android thing since it works on most other brands, even work on my Windows pc
If there isn't any fix for it, would it be possible to work around this in the done app running on the phone ? i know the developer so if that's the case it could be implemented in the app.
/Spawn

Spawn32 said:
Hi,
My 3dr solo drone uses my edge+ for displaying flight info and google maps for the area i am flying in, well at least it should have, and it works brilliantly on all other brands like moto, nexus, nvidia tablet etc..
The problem seems to exist on a all samsung galaxy device, tested it on my Tab S as well, and have gotten the same answer from other users with other galaxy devices.
Even if the wifi is connected to a non internet device the phone should be able to connect to internet through the 4g at the same time, but that doesn't happen, cant be an android thing since it works on most other brands, even work on my Windows pc
If there isn't any fix for it, would it be possible to work around this in the done app running on the phone ? i know the developer so if that's the case it could be implemented in the app.
/Spawn
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I have the same problem when connecting my S6 edge plus with my Nikon D5500.
But I don't think there is a solution for this.

Does Android 11 OB2 fix WiFi Issues, 2nd SIM, and can you root it and use GPay...?

Title pretty much covers it.....I have had it with the WiFi issues on the OP8 Pro and was going to go back to the OP7 Pro.
....but people are saying that they are all fixed in Android 11 beta on the OnePlus forums...is this true? And what about Dual SIM which I also need on occasion?
If I move to A11 OB2, can I root and get GPay working?
Is it stable enough to be a daily driver?
Many thanks in advance...
MW

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Title pretty much covers it.....I have had it with the WiFi issues on the OP8 Pro and was going to go back to the OP7 Pro.
....but people are saying that they are all fixed in Android 11 beta on the OnePlus forums...is this true? And what about Dual SIM which I also need on occasion?
If I move to A11 OB2, can I root and get GPay working?
Is it stable enough to be a daily driver?
Many thanks in advance...
MW
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You can root OB2 device, and the OB2 seems usable and also stable enough for daily usage.

I recently acquired a oneplus 8 pro purchased directly from oneplus.com. I have model IN2025. It is the 12gig ram 256 gig storage version. I also have a samsung active watch 2 which I again have had no problems with my oneplus 7 pro. When I initially acquired it, I tried using it with the android 10 non beta firmware. I had multitude of issues up to and including:
1. high difficulty (to not at all) connecting to either my 2.4ghz wifi network OR my 5ghz network. It would state connecting however stall at obtaining IP address. No other devices have issues connecting to either networks including my older oneplus 7 pro.
2. if it would finally connect, while it may state that the 5ghz is connected at 300mbps or the 2.4ghz connected at 144mbps, with random speed tests I would not experience anywheres near those speeds (my ISP dishes out 200mbps). at most I would get 30mbps on my downstream....again if it even worked.
3. both the 2.4ghz and 5ghz networks would often disconnect and never reconnect if and when they did successfully reconnect
I installed the open beta 1 and then did OTA to open beta 2. This has helped quite a bit HOWEVER I've experienced the following issues:
1. while I have no longer received the locking up on obtaining ip address, even if it states I'm connected to my wifi (either the 2.4 or 5ghz) the network is still extremely slow
2. sometimes the device while connected to either wifi network will appear to not send any information aka stall which potentially makes using google messages over wifi unreliable as well aka text msgs show up late etc
In both pre and after beta installation 5g has been significantly slower than 4g cellular data(though I can't say much to that as more than likely the 4g in my area has towers closer near by). Also while on 4g or 5g cellular connections I have though not as frequently experienced data stalls.
Things that have helped resolve some of my issues:
1. this I believe is the largest potential bandage: make sure use device mac address NOT RANDOM is selected. After having done that my connecting to the internet appears to be better (even if it still stalls out)
2. while I've not tried it alot as I use bluetooth alot (with the watch I have and my car and wireless headsets)I've read that turning off bluetooth can help both wifi and cellular data issues
I am currently in the process with oneplus of returning the 8 pro for a new 8 pro as I have not owned/had the phone for greater than 15 days. If that does not resolve the issue, I too may go back to a oneplus 7 pro...or perhaps the 'dark side' and go the samsung route.
Just sharing my experience so far!

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Just sharing my experience so far!
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Excessiveidling,
This is exactly the type of info I was looking for. So it sounds like it is better, but still bizzare WiFi issues that no other phone on the market has. My situation is...
I have to leave bluetooth on because of watch and hearing aids
I need to rely on WiFI calling on occasion and need it to be 100% reliable.
I need working WiFi at home because I use my phone for some applications that connect via my home network, so having WiFi work "most but not all" of the time is a deal breaker.
So at this point I think I am going to switch back.
I've been a loyal OP fan for quite a while (4 phones now), this has been really disappointing. I even bought a new router because someone said WPA3 would help...but it didn't.
MW

While I can not say anything to the validity of the following statement...I have heard in other forums that the samsung devices with the same qualcomm chipset had wifi/cellular issues (especially with 5g).....that was only ONE forum post however unlike the multitudes of forum posts I've seen regarding the oneplus.
If I were to guess, only based upon my limited modding experiences with previous android phones, an updated modem/chipset software COULD resolve these issues...further more a different/modified kernel as well. Doing that would probably void any warranty though and for spending 800+ on a phone, you shouldn't have to modify in order for it to work just as well if not better than an older phone.
I'll let ya know how the exchange goes. I'm willing to give them another shot 1. because of my excellent experience with the 7 pro and 2. because I've seen so many posts, reviews, etc stating the oneplus 8 pro is THE PHONE to have overall.
Thanks,
E|

I read the same thing re - chipset, and agree that is a possibility. The other is a horrible RF design for the BT / WiFi antenna because they crammed in the wireless charging.
But I don't see any of this getting fixed anytime soon. I wonder if the OP8 (non pro) has similar issues -- I didn't check.
Let me know how your new phone works out - an RF HW update or a new batch of chips could change things.