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HD2 Widcomm bluetooth stack and AUDI's hands-free pairing

Hello everybody!
I been always having difficulties pairing HTC devices with my AUDI A6 (2005) hand-free using bluetooth (HTC Diamond, HD, and now HD2). The phones will pair but neither contacts or recent calls would appear in my car's display (MMI)
I used to solve the problem using a software extension for the bluetooth stack called JETWARE MOBILE, but HD2 uses WIDCOMM's bluetooth stack instead of Microsoft's one, and JETWARE software won't support it.
I've found a thread about pairing with a volvo hands-free where have been found a solution (changing WIDCOMM registry key "SupportedFeatures" and others)
Anyway it appears to be a volvo's specific solution so it doesn't work for my AUDI (I still can't get any contacts, recent calls, etc. transfered to my car using those)
Does anybody have an idea?
Thanks in advance

Sounds like Audi does not support the handsfree profile HD2 uses. What about using sap (sim access)?
The best way would be to ask your Audi Partner about a solution.
I bet they have an own SAP bluetooth device as i read that Audi uses Handsfree on default and SAP as an option for more money.
It is always a matter of the cars software and not of the HD or HD2.
I own the Mercedes CLC 2008 and i need to buy an extra utility (SAP bluetooth dongle SLR design) for more than 300 €.
Didnt do it till today but i got a new job and def. will buy it when i get the first money.
With SAP it will definately work - also confiremd by several forums i found via google.
BTW: The brother of my wife has a new Volvo V50 and he cant pair his Nokia phone with the cars system but my old HD as my new HD2 too can pair without any problem. I can shuffle through my contacts where he got the same issue as u - but with his nokia phone.

I'm not sure if you've updated the MMI software in your Audi. I had a older software version in my 05 A6 there are 2 disks that will get you to the latest version. I have flawless phone access now. It's like a ROM upgrade for the car.
You can read more about it at www.audiworld.com and check the C6 forum.

rsacipher said:
I'm not sure if you've updated the MMI software in your Audi. I had a older software version in my 05 A6 there are 2 disks that will get you to the latest version. I have flawless phone access now. It's like a ROM upgrade for the car.
You can read more about it at www.audiworld.com and check the C6 forum.
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I don't really think I've got any MMI updates. I don't even know what version I've got...
I'll ask my dealer to find out.
Thanks

pitaXDA said:
I don't really think I've got any MMI updates. I don't even know what version I've got...
I'll ask my dealer to find out.
Thanks
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I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?

I forgot to mention if you fry the MMI it is about $2,000 to fix. I was able to get the lastest software installed in about 2 hours.

rsacipher said:
I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?
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I'm from Spain, little far away from US...
When I took my car to its last service (55.000 miles) they told me they were supposed to apply a software update (I was in a hurry so I told them to came back later... 8 months ago...).
May be that update will also apply to the MMI?
Anyway I'll take the picture and show you the SW version.
Thanks

pitaXDA said:
I'm from Spain, little far away from US...
When I took my car to its last service (55.000 miles) they told me they were supposed to apply a software update (I was in a hurry so I told them to came back later... 8 months ago...).
May be that update will also apply to the MMI?
Anyway I'll take the picture and show you the SW version.
Thanks
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It's hard to say what they wanted to update, it could have been the ECU or MMI. I found that since I had an early model 05 my software was really out of date. Once I updated it the phonebook and connection worked so much better.

Audi usually supply the latest firmware as part of the navigation disk updates (they auto update when you first put them in).. this is the case for the older RNS-E's and probably the case for MMI too..

rsacipher said:
I doubt your dealer will fix it for you unless you are still in warranty and you are having an issue with it.
My dealer didn't want to touch it because like one of these phones if you mess up the upgrade you can brick it.
If you want to take a picture of the SW version and post it or send it to me I can tell you what you have.
Are you in the US?
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Hello again
Here I'm posting the pictures of my MMI. It's my first time uploading images so I hope it works.
Thanks again

khughes said:
Audi usually supply the latest firmware as part of the navigation disk updates (they auto update when you first put them in).. this is the case for the older RNS-E's and probably the case for MMI too..
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May be... but I don't have navigation in my MMI. I actually have the MMI Plus but the navigation module was too much for the value (Tomtom gives me the same except MMI integration for less than 1/10 of the price)
Thanks anyway

dameon12 said:
I own the Mercedes CLC 2008 and i need to buy an extra utility (SAP bluetooth dongle SLR design) for more than 300 €.
With SAP it will definately work - also confiremd by several forums i found via google.
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apologies to OP, this is slightly off topic...
Hi Dameon12,
I think this works only with the V3 SAP Mercedes module, and this works only with the newer MB audio units.
I have a 2006 Mercedes with Comand and the V2 SAP module, but no success as yet pairing with the HD2 - but I'm open to suggestions!
Thanks,
Eddie

pitaXDA said:
Hello again
Here I'm posting the pictures of my MMI. It's my first time uploading images so I hope it works.
Thanks again
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Hello rsacipher
Could you please tell me if those pictures were what you ask me to take?
If I get out the software version to search for I might give it a try...
Thanks

[Q] Trouble connecting bluetooth acessories

Hi,
I go into bluetooth and search for my devices on my Omnia 7 but it seems to be stuck on Searching when I try and search for my MW600. Anyone experienced anything similar?

So far I have tried it with a couple of different headphones from SE and Plantronics but still no joy...

Jag har precis samma problem som dig med samma headset plus att min hörlursingång verkar glappa

Exactly the same problem, bluetooth worked for about a month but the quality was terrible. As time went by it got harder to pair with the car and now it just sits there searching...

I have the same issue, struggling with a lot of Bluetooth problems at the moment. I also have a MW600!
I can get it to pair with the MW600 if I turn WiFi off. After pairing it seems to work fine with WiFi back on.
With various power cycles, entering and leaving flight mode etc. I can get it to see some devices. Can't get it to pair with my car kit though no matter what I do, and that's the only thing I really want to pair it with.
It seems to be a common issue with Samsung Omnia 7s and Focuses. There is a blog post that google finds where a guy took his phone back and swapped it for another one, which then worked with all the devices his original didn't. One of the commentors then declared that upgrading the firmware to JK1 also sorted the issue. I promptly did this, voiding any chance I had of taking the device back to get a new one. It didn't work, so I'm stuck. The commentor has since come back and said it didn't fix the issue. Thanks for that .

I have an MW600 and I use it with no problems at all. Works perfectly. I have it paired with both my Samsung Omnia 7 and my old Sony Ericsson W610i.
The first pairing took me a while (some pairing codes blah blah), but after that, it's been really smooth. Just switch on bluetooth and the MW600 and they are automatically connected.
Of course, the song name etc does not show up on MW600's display -- I think that's restricted to Sony phone (my old W610i does that perfectly!).
Hope this helps.

I believe based on other peoples experiences there is a Bluetooth hardware problem with early examples of the Omnia 7. You probably have a later one where everything is fixed.
Oh and the reason the MW600's display doesn't show any info is because WP7 only supports version 1.0 of the AVRCP profile, so track info is not transmitted. I've used the MW600 with my old HTC Diamond and Touch Pro2 and got the track info to display. I'm hoping the profile will be updated by Microsoft at some point.
Supported profiles: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2449475

Well, I jsut got a new 16 GB version last week and I have bluetooth problems as well. even after Nodo they still exist. I have a Parrot Minislim kit and my phone will find it and try to connect. I enter the PIN and hit "done" . It then tries to connect but doesnt. AM bringing it to a service centre tomorrow and will see what they do there.

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17-apg said:
Well, I jsut got a new 16 GB version last week and I have bluetooth problems as well. even after Nodo they still exist. I have a Parrot Minislim kit and my phone will find it and try to connect. I enter the PIN and hit "done" . It then tries to connect but doesnt. AM bringing it to a service centre tomorrow and will see what they do there.
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Well, I brought it to the Carphone Warehouse who are the service agents for Samsung and guess what , they cannot send it back for repair because they have no "PLU" in their system for this model citing that they do not offer it in their catalogue. They have told me this 2 weeks after I left in in with them. Now, I have got to get it back from them and send to Samsung myself. Like others here I must have an early model because it is doing the same things, sometimes connecting to my Parrot MiniSlim kit and sometimes not. I bought a 16GB version from Germany because I wanted an unbranded and unlocked version with this amount of memory.

[Q] Problems with bluetooth

Hi,
I'm havig a very strange problem with my Omnia 7: the bluetooth headsets transmit only noises and/or a "robotic" voice during a call. People on the other side simple can't understand a word a say, although I hear them perfectly. I already tried three different headsets (two bluetooth 2.0 and one older) and the problem is always the same.
Also I noticed that the phone does not find any bluetooth devices if it has wi-fi turned on!
Is anyone experiencing the same problems? Any thoughts on this subject would be very much appreciated. Thanks
Ricardo

I dont know for your problem but I am facing bluetooth issue too...
I am not able to connect it to my car kit (Parot) ... I never had any problem with my preivous phones (HTC HD2, Desire, ...)

I am having exactly the same problem - and have upgraded to official Mango version.. Buetooth Audio is just not working at all. Did you guys ever solve this?

alexd83 said:
I dont know for your problem but I am facing bluetooth issue too...
I am not able to connect it to my car kit (Parot) ... I never had any problem with my preivous phones (HTC HD2, Desire, ...)
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I had same problem with mine , it wouldnt connect to my Parrot minislim car kit. It was sent abck to Samsubg in UK and they replaced the board and now all works fine. I knew the replaced the board because when i git it back it had only 8GB memory; had to send it back a second time to get it changed to 16GB version. So, get on to Samsung and have that board changed!!

Mango update has broken my bluetooth
Thought I'd add my woes to this thread.
On t-mobile uk, omnia 7.
Got bored waiting for official mango so unbranded the phone and updated. All worked fine.
However bluetooth now wont connect to my car! BMW. (will find other peoples bluetooth phones etc.) This was working fine before the update.
Is the bluetooth a product of the firmware revision which is now 2424.11.8.5
or something else?
Is there going to be samsung specific stuff come out? and how does one get it?
Or whould i go back to t-mobile build (anyone know where to get this?) and wait for official update??!
Cheers
Rob

roblpm said:
Thought I'd add my woes to this thread.
On t-mobile uk, omnia 7.
Got bored waiting for official mango so unbranded the phone and updated. All worked fine.
However bluetooth now wont connect to my car! BMW. (will find other peoples bluetooth phones etc.) This was working fine before the update.
Is the bluetooth a product of the firmware revision which is now 2424.11.8.5
or something else?
Is there going to be samsung specific stuff come out? and how does one get it?
Or whould i go back to t-mobile build (anyone know where to get this?) and wait for official update??!
Cheers
Rob
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as i posted in the other thread, just me being a numpty. dleting phone from car and readding was what was needed!!

[Q] Do you have Bluetooth headset problems?

Hi there,
I have had very few issues with my headsets on WM 6.x devices before.
With my Quantum, I bought a new Motorola Oasis headset and RMA'd it for a new one due to this issue (which hasn't been fixed):
If I am not within 2 feet of the phone, my voice audio quality is terrible.
I can hear just fine. Outgoing voice is terrible.
It can be in my pocket, on a table, whatever. The connection is terrible once it gets out of my shirt pocket.
I have turned WiFi off, data connections off, etc.
Is the bluetooth radio in this phone weak?
I was thinking of removing the metal back and seeing if that helps.
Thanks,
TTFN
Gregg

OK, so this problem is still pretty infuriating.
Does ANYONE have a recommendation about a BT headset that would work acceptably when the phone is in my pocket?
I mean, it disconnects if I put it diagonally across my body.
Maybe my phone is bad? Both the new and old headset seem to perform similarly.
I'm currently looking at the Blueant T1 which appears to have a slightly longer range in some reviews.

I can't speak for headsets, cuz I haven't tried any yet, for any length of time, but I can tell you the Quantum works fine with my Garmin BT-enabled unit in the van -- no matter if the phone is in my pocket or on the console between the seats.

FYI, I'm not the only one with the problem with poor bluetooth performance.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...formance/c4379403-464d-45a2-8750-e80ca8dc4d4e
It's still a mystery.
My car doesn't appear to fix the problem. I figured I had the ultimate BT headset now!

drtolson said:
I can't speak for headsets, cuz I haven't tried any yet, for any length of time, but I can tell you the Quantum works fine with my Garmin BT-enabled unit in the van -- no matter if the phone is in my pocket or on the console between the seats.
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I have no problem with Bluetooth range in my Santa Fe, BUT, while I can receive incoming calls without issue, I can only make outgoing calls on the LG Quantum if the screen is unlocked (ie, on the live tiles screen or deeper). That seems like a flaw to me. My old LG Voyager worked while it was in my pocket for both incoming and outgoing calls from this vehicle.
I've tried what settings I think could have an impact, but the "take the phone out of my pocket and unlock before making a hands free call" problem remains.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks from a noob!

SOLVED?
Just FYI...
I sent my phone back to LG for repair after proving to their tech that it was a problem, and being unable to prove to AT&T it was a problem.
LG returned my same phone to me with the note saying they "Updated The Software".
Prior to sending it, I updated it to 7392 (because that triggers a backup in Zune). Mine was one of the very first LG Quantum phones produced.
The phone came back with 7390 on it and apparently different Radio ROMS.
I tried the phone out after getting it back and the Bluetooth issue is indeed much better. I think they updated the radio ROMs. Unfortunately I don't know exactly what they were when I shipped the phone off.
Here's the new version info (I ran the update to get back to 7392):
Phone LG Quantum (LG-C900) on AT&T.
OS Version 7.0.7392.0
Firmware revision 1.1.3.11
Hardware revision 1.1.0.0
Radio software 1.1.3.11
Radio hardware version 0.3.5.0
Bootloader version 1.5.1.0
Chip SOC Version 0.30.2.0
If I see it right, the Radio ROM version is much different.
The bad part...
The phone will not restore my Zune backup. So I think there is definitely a version mismatch somewhere.
TTFN
Gregg

i have been using my few weeks old (to me) used quantum in my car with minor issues.using the stock rom, volume was VERY low. restoring to an image here then upgrading via zune seems to have worked wonders in my car (alpine iva-w505 with kce-400bt bluetooth module)
then updating my car's bt firmware made it even better.

Could you post the radio / rom versions on your phone after that update (like I did)?
I'm curious where yours is now vs. where LG put mine after the service.
I wonder if I can upgrade my Subaru's BT stack? Hmm...

Os very 7.0.7392.0
Firmware rev 1.1.3.11
Hardware rev 1.1.0.0
Radio rev 1.1.3.11
Radio hardware 0.3.5.0
Bootloader 1.5.1.0
Chip soc 0.30.2.0
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk

I think the radio ROM version was the issue on my phone then...
If I had done what you did, I wouldn't have had to send it away for service!
My radio ROM was older. I still can't get too far away from the phone before sounding like a Cylon, but it is way way better than it ever was.
And Mango makes the Bluetooth work so much harder that it would have been supremely frustrating to have it not working right!
Thanks for the ROM version post!

[Q] Trouble connecting Stereo Bluetooth Headphone & Omnia7

Dear community,
Having read, that the Sony Ericson Bluetooth Headphone (MW600) works with a Samsung Omnia7, I finally bought one.
But: When I try to connect/interlink these to devices nothing happens. My beloved Omnia7 only stays in "searching mode", finding no other Bluethooth sources.
I know that in august last year, it found at least my older Cellphone (but couldnt connect), but now it doesn't detect anything.
What can I do?
OS: Mango 7.10 (7740)
Diagnosis:
PDA I8700XXKI4
Phone: KI1
CSC: KI4
Bluetooth S/W: 0.0.1
Bluetooth H/W: 0.0.1
Bluetooth Mac: 7847 (and so on)

try updating to 8107 and check again

Hey Blaster,
thanks for the reply. I updated today (TMobile-Germany just offered Update to 8107 this morning). But unfotunately nothing happened. I'm going to contact the TMobile Customer-Service. Maybe it is a hardware issue.
Edit: Just found out ... I'm not the only one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293248&page=2

rednex2 said:
Edit: Just found out ... I'm not the only one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293248&page=2
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Yes there is a big problem with bluetooth in omnia 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441902
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7/c0e880dc-91c8-4a31-b5b9-96185707e0e1?page=3

Hey rustemka,
so, looks like nobody knows if the problem is related to the hard- or to the software...
This topic may be closed, as I will join the other threads!
Thanks to all!

rednex2 said:
Hey Blaster,
thanks for the reply. I updated today (TMobile-Germany just offered Update to 8107 this morning). But unfotunately nothing happened. I'm going to contact the TMobile Customer-Service. Maybe it is a hardware issue.
Edit: Just found out ... I'm not the only one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293248&page=2
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what happens to bluetooth is not really clear, my phone was T-mob de too but (fortunately) mine works and pairs with my headphones, the only problem i have is, when playing a video i hear the sound through back speaker, and still remains with 8107 update

@ DJ: I've read in other forums (not sure, it might even be the answer.microsoft-forum) that this is a general WP7-issue.
I'd glad, if only I could listen to music via BT.

I don't think it's hardware failure... rather incompatability.
My 1st Omnia worked perfectly until Mango. After I updated it my data connection stopped working right as did my Bluetooth. It was the same on 7720 and 7740.
My replacement Omnia on 7740 works fine... It seems odd that hardware would fail exactly at the time I updated it. My sisters Omnia (also purchased at the same time) also had the same problems after the Mango update.
I suspect Samsung changed components (as with the rev 1.4 focus) but didn't announce it and these variations are causing problems with the firmware.
This is just my opinion however.

Turn the wifi off, that worked for me and Nokia BH-111.
It was stuck in "searching..". After i turned the wifi off, it found he headset instantly. problem is, now i can't use bluetootha dn wifi at the same time, ff/rewind doe not work and playback is a bit patchy. i believe i've read it's a hardware related problem and i will try to score a replacement.

turning WiFi off, didn't work for my Omnia7.
I even bought a Samsung HS3000 BT-Headphone, for the samsung-customer service guaranteed compatibilty, but nothing changed. Bluetooth ist still "searching".
Going to replace it as well.

me too
this seems to be a big problem with the omnia 7, as both myself and someone i work with have the same problem. supposedly (not sure of the authenticity of this one, so please take with a pinch of salt) the omnia 7 was designed to only speak to other omnia 7's for some reason, as if samsung thought bluetooth file sharing was gonna be possible with wp7. seems vaguely (only vaguely) plausible, but just thought i would add my tuppence.

same
i have motorola s9 bluetooth stereo headset, and worked since nokia n95, throught varius wm (htc samsung sony ericcson) phones, and android too... now with omnia 7 was not working well, but when i disabled wifi started to work again... i don't now why, and i've not tried bluetooth and wifi at the same time with other devices (i use bluetooth only on car and when i go running)... is it normal?

No, normally WiFi shouldn't interfere with BT as far as I know- but this seems to be common with the Omnia7.
@chrisrobinson: The Samsung support guaranteed, that Omnia7s work with their HS3000. Accordingly the Omnia7 should speak with other devices than other Omnia7s. But mine doesn't.

rednex2 said:
No, normally WiFi shouldn't interfere with BT as far as I know- but this seems to be common with the Omnia7.
@chrisrobinson: The Samsung support guaranteed, that Omnia7s work with their HS3000. Accordingly the Omnia7 should speak with other devices than other Omnia7s. But mine doesn't.
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Mine was slightly different. It only worked when WiFi was turned ON. It didn't work if WiFi was OFF.

something happend a few days ago. Since than, the "alphabetic character-tiles" on the screen with the list of all the installed apps appear like "border in theme-colour, background in beackgroundcolour, character in theme-colour". . . and:
even my bluetooth started working again (only if wifi off, ... of course).
It now finds my MW600 Stereo Headset. And connection is established.
BUT: I can't listen to music. I can read the title of the mp3 on the headsets display, turn volume loud on both devices, but no sound at all. hmm

I've given up on my BH-111.
The headset works fine with my laptop and nokia 5230 and nokia n97, but not omnia. Too bad, would have been nice for running and such.