[Q] Can I root without custom kernel - Galaxy S I9000 General

Hi I have an I9000 and I have upgraded the OS to 2.3.5 using the stock firmware from samfirmwares.com I think it is using Odin. The question I have and I have googled it and searched and read this and many other forums is can I root my I9000 without flashing CWM and a customer kernal?
On my 10.1 tab I just have a zip file I drop in root and reboot to the recovery menu and update it and it's done. I want the same for my I9000 (just for Titanium backup and SU) and I want to stay on the stock rom.
Thanks
Brian

Nop that isn't possible!
Only way to root 2.3.5 is flashing a custom kernel.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Yes,you can...
Brian-UK said:
Hi I have an I9000 and I have upgraded the OS to 2.3.5 using the stock firmware from samfirmwares.com I think it is using Odin. The question I have and I have googled it and searched and read this and many other forums is can I root my I9000 without flashing CWM and a customer kernal?
On my 10.1 tab I just have a zip file I drop in root and reboot to the recovery menu and update it and it's done. I want the same for my I9000 (just for Titanium backup and SU) and I want to stay on the stock rom.
Thanks
Brian
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It is not a single-click process but two.
First of all use CF(the least complicated kernel) that applies to JVS to obtain root(from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108 ) and then flash the stock kernel(from perkas stash-- http://perka.zapto.org ).The result would be your phone has root and only the stock kernel.
Best wishes.

Thanks thats what I wanted I'll do that then. Why do you flash twice though? why CF then perka?
Thanks for your help
Brian

Brian-UK said:
Thanks thats what I wanted I'll do that then. Why do you flash twice though? why CF then perka?
Thanks for your help
Brian
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Twice because----
1)the CF would root your phone
and since you don't want anything other than the native/original kernel,
2)flash the kernel as suggested.
You could as well not go for the second flash but simply remove the minor tweaks and reboot for them to be removed.
No big deal/difference really.

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KJ2 Rooting (which method?)

Hi Peeps
I see there is no CFroot for this yet, can it be rooted safely with any other methods?
I have done the super one click before but also couldn't find an insecure kernel
for this also?
Thanks
You could flash hardcore's speedmod kernel with kj2 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498
Already rooted and ready to go. Its what I'm currently using.
Root with cfroot for, say,ki8, then flash stock kernel back with cwm app or any of the other kernel flashing apps for root users (since root is really files in /system, root stays, but you do lose the cwm recovery when flashing stock kernel back).
Of course there are probably not many actual kernel changes between the different 2.3.5 offerings, so you could keep running the ki8 kernel on the kj1/2 rom with no noticeable impact.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
there is a new root method out there (zergRush) which seems to be independent from what version you are running and be fast and easy.
it wont come with a recovery though and has not been tested on many SGS2 until now
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321538
most of you dont understand, for root you have to look the number that is phone not PDA.
thus the newest KJ2 is using XXKI4 Phone thus requires cfroot of XXKI4.
its always like that and its always what users didnt get.
plus doesnt matter what cfroot you use if at the end you want to flash stock kernel, or some other kernel, only if you want to stay, than try to find exact match for just in case thing, otherwise doesnt matter.
atifsh said:
most of you dont understand, for root you have to look the number that is phone not PDA.
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Bu11sh1t. You are total wrong!!!
i have rooted using speedmod on kj1 firmware.
however, the cwm app is not available on phone, thought the recovery portion is available if i do volup+power+select.
can anyone share the cwm.apk from cf-root?
Odia said:
Bu11sh1t. You are total wrong!!!
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before burping all this go and research pls, as I have and though I might me wrong, its not all bull sh1t
atifsh said:
go and research pls
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I make kernels to be able to make root on the devices, I would hope I understand what version is what and which it matches.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101671
Im running XWKJ1 with the KI8 CF-Root, no problems noticed.

::Help needed::

hey every1,
details of the note m using nw :
Kernel - 3.0.15-N7000DDLP8-CL551076
[email protected]#3
SMP PREEMPT Sat May 12 16:05:17 KST 2012
Build - IML74K.DDLP8
Now what i want to noe is hw to root this device and install a custom rom...
i want to try ouy the King droid 3.0 rom.......
i went thru quite a fu topics regarding dis but got confused (am a noob )
Thanx...
Haha, Im also in the same boat
Had my Note for about 5 hours now and still using stock !!!! I dont understand the different methods, One says use ODIN, the other says avoid ODIN. One says flash in stock recovery, One says downgrade to lower GB then upgrade...
Totally different than the SGS1 / HTC forums
azzledazzle said:
Haha, Im also in the same boat
Had my Note for about 5 hours now and still using stock !!!! I dont understand the different methods, One says use ODIN, the other says avoid ODIN. One says flash in stock recovery, One says downgrade to lower GB then upgrade...
Totally different than the SGS1 / HTC forums
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wt to do??hw to go about it???? :?
Search the forum? Then you will answers...
/CK
Café King said:
Search the forum? Then you will answers...
/CK
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i did search and got confused...tats why ......
Simple, Downgrade to a older GB using PC odinthe rom must be one of the 'root able' roms found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
Then once you have downgraded use this method to gain root and cwm http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1329360 (scroll to the bottom of the op)
Thanks man, But on another thread (CleaNote ROM) it says this:
Flash STOCK ICS with PC odin
boot the rom
reboot to dowload mode
flash CF kernel
reboot rom
copy CleaNote ROM zip to phone
reboot to CWM
install zip
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Do i have to do that ^^ Or can i just root my current stock GB ROM + Add CWM, Then flash Abyss Kernel, Then flash the ROM of my choice ?
Its these conflicting posts what puzzle me lol.
azzledazzle said:
Thanks man, But on another thread (CleaNote ROM) it says this:
Do i have to do that ^^ Or can i just root my current stock GB ROM + Add CWM, Then flash Abyss Kernel, Then flash the ROM of my choice ?
Its these conflicting posts what puzzle me lol.
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If you are looking to flash a rom that has step by step instructions on how to install it then follow those, as some roms require different instructions.
But if you want to gain root and CWM and are not sure on what rom you want first what I have said is the easiest way to go
Well that was just what i read on one of the posts, In the OP it just says flash from CWM, Providing you have a safe kernel and root.
My current ROM is LC1 which is one of the unrootable ROMs, and my DLoad for ICS is almost complete !
I think i will just flash ICS then a safe kernel, Then the CleaNote ROM. Im just so scared about the brickbug lol. I will wipe before i update, As GB is safe right ?
azzledazzle said:
Well that was just what i read on one of the posts, In the OP it just says flash from CWM, Providing you have a safe kernel and root.
My current ROM is LC1 which is one of the unrootable ROMs, and my DLoad for ICS is almost complete !
I think i will just flash ICS then a safe kernel, Then the CleaNote ROM. Im just so scared about the brickbug lol. I will wipe before i update, As GB is safe right ?
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GB is safe yes.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium
ICS flashed fine
Got root and CWM, Just installed Abyss kernel. Now doing a nandroid, Then Im gonna flash CleaNote,
Will avoid the wipe option even tho it says its safe in this kernel, Just not ready to take the risk yet.
Thanks for the advice, Been debating whether to take the plunge all day.
EDIT: spoke to soon, Now Im stuck on Splash screen, Dunno why, The nandroid was successful, But i cannot boot back into recovery now.
Looks like I'll have to flash the ICS again.
Abyss kernel is for gb not for ics. When cleanote said a safe kernel it is speedmod k3-3 or franco r3,r4,r5& r6. They use abyss kernel in wiping data in ics recovery just to be safe and the right step are 1. Flash the abyss kernel 4.2( after that do not wipe or flash your custom rom yet, very important to remember it will superbreak your phone), 2. Go to advanced and find reboot to recovery and click it and do the wiping their, its safe 3. and then you can flash the custom rom. In the case of cleanote theirs no need use abyss if you already flash speedmod or franco kernel in your ics before flashing the cleanote rom because cleanote 1.02 will automatically wipe your data.
Thanks man !! I'll get the hang of this one day
Im on rooted stock ICS now, With CF Kernel, So I just need to flash speedmod kernel( I loved their kernels & ROMs on the SGS1) reboot recovery, Then install CleaNote ?
I almost got it right lol
After flashing speedmod k3-3 click REBOOT SYSTEM NOW(get out of the recovery first) then check in the setting if you really have the speedmod kernel in your system running to be sure and enter recovery again and flash the cleanote rom, thats it.

Change CF-root S3 6.4 to cf-auto_root

Hi, I have an Samsung Galaxy S3 updated to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and rooted with cf-root 6.4 and I would like I have readed that chainfire think that is "better" cf-auto-root so now I would like way mobile odin pro change cf-root to cf-auto-root if this is possible.
Can you help me? I don´t have post for post in the chainfire post and I don´t know if with mobile odin I can put cf-auto-root and how I can do.
Regards
Back up your data using Titanium Backup or any other backup tools.
Then flash stock JB firmware, root it using cf-auto root.
Restore data.
astrall said:
Back up your data using Titanium Backup or any other backup tools.
Then flash stock JB firmware, root it using cf-auto root.
Restore data.
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Ok, but one question, why don´t work flash cf-auto-root directly?
regards
jjaviercs said:
Ok, but one question, why don´t work flash cf-auto-root directly?
regards
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You need to ask Chainfire he developed it .
jje
JJEgan said:
You need to ask Chainfire he developed it .
jje
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Ok, thanks
Lolz just leave the **** alone. You are already on firmware you want to be and you're rooted....? Leave it alone. No point going through all that work for nothing.
**** delete custom, that is reflash custom recovery with regular one and you got yourself auto root lol. Then when you get to the point that you'll need custom recovery, do it all over again.
Highly suggest you go read again what auto root is and does without blindly thinking it's better and automatically thinking you gotta redo it. You don't!
Sent from my GT-I9300
Loving c.f.-auto_root. for now till I decide to flash again hahaha
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What's the problems with 6.4 usage on jellybean?
At moment I am having major problems I first thought as nothing, but basically I am seeing increased battery drainage since I updated. I also am having some "wifi suffocation" - Wifi media would just cut and you need to disable and enable wifi to get it working again. I updated a rooted phone via kies and rooted it with 6.4 so I am trying to know if these problems are just my old settings being incompatible, CF root 6.4 and/or BusyBox or just a general NEE Jellybean error...
Thanks to all for your answers. For now I don´t will change until new firmware
regards
Sumea said:
What's the problems with 6.4 usage on jellybean?
At moment I am having major problems I first thought as nothing, but basically I am seeing increased battery drainage since I updated. I also am having some "wifi suffocation" - Wifi media would just cut and you need to disable and enable wifi to get it working again. I updated a rooted phone via kies and rooted it with 6.4 so I am trying to know if these problems are just my old settings being incompatible, CF root 6.4 and/or BusyBox or just a general NEE Jellybean error...
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No problem whatsoever with cf root. Chainfire simply decided not to make and use custom recovery anymore. So he took it out. Which is his right anyways.
Your counter will still increase with auto root as with original for initial flashing via Odin. After which you can perpetually flash with 'mobile odin', preserving root. Which is probably what he wants and it makes sense for those of us that own it.
Those that want custom recovery for flashing zips will have to flash it separately. Which unless flashing with mobile odin will make the counter show 2 (auto root + recovery) instead of one with original cf root.
For those that care about warranty and Chainfire already hinted he might stop playing cat and mouse with samsung and samsung changes something so that current triangle away stops working...
Testing JKay alpha on GT-I9300
Idan73 said:
No problem whatsoever with cf root. Chainfire simply decided not to make and use custom recovery anymore. So he took it out. Which is his right anyways.
Your counter will still increase with auto root as with original for initial flashing via Odin. After which you can perpetually flash with 'mobile odin', preserving root. Which is probably what he wants and it makes sense for those of us that own it.
Those that want custom recovery for flashing zips will have to flash it separately. Which unless flashing with mobile odin will make the counter show 2 (auto root + recovery) instead of one with original cf root.
For those that care about warranty and Chainfire already hinted he might stop playing cat and mouse with samsung and samsung changes something so that current triangle away stops working...
Testing JKay alpha on GT-I9300
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Sounds good really - and seems like it at least is not CF root that is causing my problems, something is what is making me go through complete wipe and firmware reinstall probably from sammobile source. I hope I get it fixed and it is not something in the firmware itself because the Jellybean IS nice.
jjaviercs said:
Hi, I have an Samsung Galaxy S3 updated to Jelly Bean 4.1.1 and rooted with cf-root 6.4 and I would like I have readed that chainfire think that is "better" cf-auto-root so now I would like way mobile odin pro change cf-root to cf-auto-root if this is possible.
Can you help me? I don´t have post for post in the chainfire post and I don´t know if with mobile odin I can put cf-auto-root and how I can do.
Regards
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i flash directly the cf-auto root from my custom JB by using mobile odin and revert back to cwm due to the fonts too small.

[Q] Questions on installing CWM

Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
georgesmh said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2454079
Use this to install CWM through Odin it is better.
When u flash the new ROM and after wiping, the root using towelroot will be gone but probably the rom u'll be flashing will already be rooted or u can root easily with CF auto root.
I recommend TWRP over CWM, especially for a new flasher
Cheers!
Sent from my SM-N900 using Tapatalk
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Thank you!
SKELLUP said:
Hi all, im a noobie with samsung devices and this whole Odin thing so decided to ask here before messing up things.
So, i want to install a custom rom. I rooted my device with towelroot just a while ago, so now i only need a CWM recovery.Can i just download the latest CWM .tar file for note 3 and flash it through Odin? Will the fact that i rooted using towelroot have any impact on this? Also, will towelroot stick when flashing the CWM recovery, or flashing a new rom?
Can Rom Manager be used to install CWM, as i understand that it is a supported device. Is it a worse way than going through Odin?
My plan is to make a backup with CWM and then probably flash X-Note rom if all goes how i planned it.
Sorry if these questions are answered somewhere, couldn't find with browsing and searching for a good while.
Im on N9005 and 4.4.2
Thanks for all help!
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Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone
verny94 said:
Towelroot doesn´t trip Knox but don´t forget that custom ROM or recovery trip know to 0x1.
Don´t use any ROM managers etc. It make a lot of problems with phone
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Yeah i am aware of that, btw does it matter if im using Odin v. 1.85? Does it have to be 3.x or so?
Edit: Sry the Odin i have is Odin3 v.1.85

[Q] I just want to be sure

Hey Guys,
I'm quite new on the forums, so forgive me if I ask questions that have already been answered a lot. Yes, I've read loads about 'how to root the Samsung Galaxy S4', but I just want your guys confirmation about my ideas.
1. I know for a long time now that you can use the CF-auto root to root your S4. But I'm wondering if it still works after such an amount of updates. Currently my phone's build number is I9505XXUGNG8
2. After my phone is rooted, I would like to have CWM as my costum recovery. I know that a really easy way is to install the ROM manager app from the playstore and from there, flash the CWM recovery. Again I was wondering if it still works that easily for the S4
3. After my phone is rooted and has CWM, I think I don't receive any OTA updates anymore right? (even when I just stay on the official TouchWizz rom)
If I don't get these updates anymore then what is a good way to get the newest Android TouchWizz versions? Can I just use the official TouchWizz roms from Sammobile that will come out in the future?
Already thanks to everybody who comments on this thread!
I hope that I can teach other people also something new.
Anyone?
Dark Blitz said:
Hey Guys,
I'm quite new on the forums, so forgive me if I ask questions that have already been answered a lot. Yes, I've read loads about 'how to root the Samsung Galaxy S4', but I just want your guys confirmation about my ideas.
1. I know for a long time now that you can use the CF-auto root to root your S4. But I'm wondering if it still works after such an amount of updates. Currently my phone's build number is I9505XXUGNG8
2. After my phone is rooted, I would like to have CWM as my costum recovery. I know that a really easy way is to install the ROM manager app from the playstore and from there, flash the CWM recovery. Again I was wondering if it still works that easily for the S4
3. After my phone is rooted and has CWM, I think I don't receive any OTA updates anymore right? (even when I just stay on the official TouchWizz rom)
If I don't get these updates anymore then what is a good way to get the newest Android TouchWizz versions? Can I just use the official TouchWizz roms from Sammobile that will come out in the future?
Already thanks to everybody who comments on this thread!
I hope that I can teach other people also something new.
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1. Yes
2. I'm not sure. I always flash first non stock recovery with Odin.
3. Yes, You don't get official updates anymore. If You use latest rom from Sammobile You will loose root. Instead You can use prerooted stock roms easy to find on S4 forum. Or alternatively use any of custom TW based roms. Imo Omega rom is closest to stock.
tomtro74 said:
1. Yes
2. I'm not sure. I always flash first non stock recovery with Odin.
3. Yes, You don't get official updates anymore. If You use latest rom from Sammobile You will loose root. Instead You can use prerooted stock roms easy to find on S4 forum. Or alternatively use any of custom TW based roms. Imo Omega rom is closest to stock.
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If all you want to do it install a custom recovery and root the stock rom, you might consider just flashing Clockwork Mod Recovery in ODIN. Then using ClockworkMod to root the phone directly from recovery. It's 1 less ODIN step and it gets you to the same place.
Skipjacks said:
If all you want to do it install a custom recovery and root the stock rom, you might consider just flashing Clockwork Mod Recovery in ODIN. Then using ClockworkMod to root the phone directly from recovery. It's 1 less ODIN step and it gets you to the same place.
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Thanks for your reply! That is exactly what I want to do.
Just to be sure, should I do it this way?
1. Download CWM_6.0.4.7_Non-Touch_GT-I9505.tar
2. Flash the CWM_6.0.4.7_Non-Touch_GT-I9505.tar file with Odin v3.07
3. Download UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip
4. Boot into CWM recovery and flash the UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip from the external SD-card (Because I would place it on the external SD-card)
Then I should be rooted right?
Dark Blitz said:
Thanks for your reply! That is exactly what I want to do.
Just to be sure, should I do it this way?
1. Download CWM_6.0.4.7_Non-Touch_GT-I9505.tar
2. Flash the CWM_6.0.4.7_Non-Touch_GT-I9505.tar file with Odin v3.07
3. Download UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip
4. Boot into CWM recovery and flash the UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip from the external SD-card (Because I would place it on the external SD-card)
Then I should be rooted right?
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Yes.
And you can replace the version of CWM you mentioned with any other recovery that makes you happy, as long as it's a .tar install file for ODIN.
Why the non touch version?
Skipjacks said:
Yes.
And you can replace the version of CWM you mentioned with any other recovery that makes you happy, as long as it's a .tar install file for ODIN.
Why the non touch version?
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Thanks A LOT!!!
I prefer the non touch version, because I'm then just a little bit more confident that I don't misclick because of touch (although that probably won't happen) and I think that the volume keys are therfore just a little bit more accurate to navigate with,
Also, if I have CWM installed and rooted my phone, can I then just install ROM manager to keep my CWM recovery up to date or do I have to flash a new one to get an updated version?

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