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Sprint Data usage counter wayyy off!

I've downloaded 2 gigs of http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html last week and it still says
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I'm assuming Sprint doesn't care because its unlimited data but I do for e-peen ocd stroking!!! grgrrrrr

Let's just hope the delay is not because you were roaming at the time!
Sprint Data Roaming 2,568,128,852
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crakerjaks said:
I've downloaded 2 gigs of http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html last week and it still says
I'm assuming Sprint doesn't care because its unlimited data but I do for e-peen ocd stroking!!! grgrrrrr
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It doesn't show 4g data...

holob said:
It doesn't show 4g data...
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well ****.

nukedukem said:
Let's just hope the delay is not because you were roaming at the time!
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Wait, I can believe that data usage, has that happened to you or someone?

jigglywiggly said:
Wait, I can believe that data usage, has that happened to you or someone?
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That would be pretty impressive, seeing that $152,461 makes no sense in a denomination of US currency.

rutter9 said:
That would be pretty impressive, seeing that $152,461 makes no sense in a denomination of US currency.
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are you just being nit-picky over the lack of .00 or do you really not understand how much money that is?

We've been over this before...there is no cap on ROAMING DATA with the evo. As far as it goes on their website, it's usually way under or way over.

jigglywiggly said:
Wait, I can believe that data usage, has that happened to you or someone?
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When I was an accountant in Belgium, the new CEO brought his iPhone over from the states and put it on our Proximus business account. Let's just say that the use of 1 iPhone for less than a month doubled our phone bill for an account that had 70+ phones on it.

Hrshycro said:
We've been over this before...there is no cap on ROAMING DATA with the evo. As far as it goes on their website, it's usually way under or way over.
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Where did you get this information? I was under the impression that there is a 300MB/month limit on roaming data before they charge you. A Sprint rep posted the details in their forums.
Unlimited 3G and 4G
300MB roaming data limit without extra charge.

nukedukem said:
Where did you get this information? I was under the impression that there is a 300MB/month limit on roaming data before they charge you. A Sprint rep posted the details in their forums.
Unlimited 3G and 4G
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That's for data cards.

nukedukem said:
Where did you get this information? I was under the impression that there is a 300MB/month limit on roaming data before they charge you. A Sprint rep posted the details in their forums.
Unlimited 3G and 4G
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It was in some thread last week that was fairly long. I thought we'd come down to the conclusion that only 3g laptop cards had the cap; phones don't on 3g.

Hrshycro said:
It was in some thread last week that was fairly long. I thought we'd come down to the conclusion that only 3g laptop cards had the cap; phones don't on 3g.
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Has anyone used more than 300MB roaming? Here is the post I was referring to. This Sprint employee says that EVO data is capped at 300MB roaming.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/33866

Hrshycro said:
It was in some thread last week that was fairly long. I thought we'd come down to the conclusion that only 3g laptop cards had the cap; phones don't on 3g.
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I REALLY didn't want to get pulled into this discussion again, but I don't want to see forum members get screwed either. I've been going back and forth quoting the EVO-specific TOS with kris54241 on exactly this subject over here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755458
The 300mb roaming cap does come into play for the Evo, and Sprint has recently made it a priority to begin cracking down on those users (weather those 300mb roaming were a majority of usage or not). Some people have begun to see warnings in their bills.

nukedukem said:
Where did you get this information? I was under the impression that there is a 300MB/month limit on roaming data before they charge you. A Sprint rep posted the details in their forums.
Unlimited 3G and 4G
300MB roaming data limit without extra charge.
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I don't believe they charge for over 300MB, but they do warn you. In the TOS & contract you signed in the beginning it says if a certain percent (can't remember) of your minutes are roaming or if more than 300MB data is roaming they have the right to terminate your service.

The actual terms of service for phones states that a "majority of your minutes or data usage may not occur off the Sprint network."
That means that technically, you could talk for 61 minutes - 30 on Sprint, 31 Roaming - and Sprint can term the service.
Also, you can download 3kb of data (yes, 3kb), 1kb on Sprint, 2kb Roaming - and Sprint can terminate your service.
Now, chances are you wouldn't even get looked at until you hit a GB or more of anything or a ton of minutes, but the way it's written, it's a simple majority... Pretty cool huh?

zcarman said:
The actual terms of service for phones states that a "majority of your minutes or data usage may not occur off the Sprint network."
That means that technically, you could talk for 61 minutes - 30 on Sprint, 31 Roaming - and Sprint can term the service.
Also, you can download 3kb of data (yes, 3kb), 1kb on Sprint, 2kb Roaming - and Sprint can terminate your service.
Now, chances are you wouldn't even get looked at until you hit a GB or more of anything or a ton of minutes, but the way it's written, it's a simple majority... Pretty cool huh?
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This is incorrect. It no longer matters weather a majority of usage is in-network. Check out my link above for details.

T-Mobile 500mb Data Cap...

I feel real sorry for our brothers and sisters over in the UK who will be getting their data capped at 500mb. See the article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jan/12/t-mobile-data-cap-smartphone
Can you imagine the negative slap-back to T-Moble if they did something like that here in the Ol' USA? I mean, I couldn't wade though all the negative energy it is now when T-Moble limited the 'unlimited' data plan to 5gb. Imagine it being only 500mb.. Geez!
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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It sucks for them, but all the carriers seem to be doing this. And Engadget got the official word that the cap is only for new contracts, so existing users won't be capped.

i would burn through 500mb in the first week

I could use that in like 2 days. Already doing 8gb a month and that's just using Pandora radio and streaming video, web and YouTube. I would cancel my service if they did that here.
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this applies to only new and upgrading customers
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darkside79 said:
I could use that in like 2 days. Already doing 8gb a month and that's just using Pandora radio and streaming video, web and YouTube. I would cancel my service if they did that here.
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Thats some serious data usage. If there was a 5th mobil carrier that offered a true unlimited data plan here is the USA, I wonder how many of us would pay the penalty of contact disconnect and switch over?
I wish there WAS a US based mobile carrier that offeres a true unlimited data plan!

lawalty said:
Thats some serious data usage. If there was a 5th mobil carrier that offered a true unlimited data plan here is the USA, I wonder how many of us would pay the penalty of contact disconnect and switch over?
I wish there WAS a US based mobile carrier that offeres a true unlimited data plan!
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sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching

zephiK said:
this applies to only new and upgrading customers
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Yep, but they'll get them when they renew!

Here in Texas, Time Warner is offerening a wireless plan for laptop and mobile users that is 250mbs a month.
Give me a break!
After you use up 250mbs, then they charge you (i believe - going off memory) .10 cents for every 1mb after.. WTF!
Isn't wimax something like clearwire?

Phromik said:
It sucks for them, but all the carriers seem to be doing this. And Engadget got the official word that the cap is only for new contracts, so existing users won't be capped.
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They will be capped when they renew their contracts.
When you renew you contract they will just give you a different contract to agree too, and the new data plan will be part of it.
They aren't "grandfathering" anyone in. They just aren't breeching their CURRENT contracts.

lawalty said:
Here in Texas, Time Warner is offerening a wireless plan for laptop and mobile users that is 250mbs a month.
Give me a break!
After you use up 250mbs, then they charge you (i believe - going off memory) .10 cents for every 1mb after.. WTF!
Isn't wimax something like clearwire?
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Yes WiMax is clearwire.
The coverage is so bad that I routinely forget WiMax exists.

lolcopter said:
sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching
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Isn't wimax wireless internet like clearwire?
Never mind, got your answer.

lawalty said:
I feel real sorry for our brothers and sisters over in the UK who will be getting their data capped at 500mb. See the article here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/jan/12/t-mobile-data-cap-smartphone
Can you imagine the negative slap-back to T-Moble if they did something like that here in the Ol' USA? I mean, I couldn't wade though all the negative energy it is now when T-Moble limited the 'unlimited' data plan to 5gb. Imagine it being only 500mb.. Geez!
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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there is no cap to the current tmobile 5gb. full speed within 5gb and slower after that. No cap.

lawalty said:
I don't listen to any streaming music, nor do I watch any streaming videos, movies, or shows except for a little YouTube now and then. I don't do any major downloads except for a ROM now and then. I still hover around 890mds to 1200mbs per month. 500mbs would kill me!
How about you guys?
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Someone watches alot of porn

I read the article about the 500MB data cap today and was totally freaking out, because I generally use about 2GB worth of data every month. I called T-Mobile and the rep said they had a 5 GB cap and after that your bandwidth will be throttled (which is what I thought the plan was). The T-Mobile rep told me that 500MB is insane and they would never put their cap that low, as you would eat it up in a few days.
Wow even T-Mobile USA agrees 500MB a month is not enough for a smartphone. How is T-Mobile USA affiliated with T-Mobile UK?
I told the rep that if they ever did something like that I would no longer be a T-Mobile customer... She acknowledged and told me T-Mobile would never do anything like that.
After my call with T-Mobile I decided I'd hop on XDA to see if anyone else saw the article about the 500MB cap, and found this thread. Now I wish I would have recorded the call in case T-Mobile ever does reduce their cap like this.
Hoping to get the new dual core Optimus when it arrives in April... If they do this to T-Mobile USA customers after I renew I am going to have a cow...

lolcopter said:
i would burn through 500mb in the first week
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Lmao that's like two days for me. I wouldn't know what to do with myself.
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To clarify for you guys about WiMax.
Wimax is a technology much like LTE. Wimax is an extension to WiFi. Clearwire uses Wimax as their technology of choice to provide internet access/Data to their customers. Anyone who wants to can buy a Tower and mount a Wimax antenna on it and use it, just like we use wireless as Wimax has access to a none license frequencies as well as frequencies you need to license to use.

Looks like I won't be picking up anymore prepaid t mobile sim cards when I go to london.
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Louer Adun said:
Hoping to get the new dual core Optimus when it arrives in April... If they do this to T-Mobile USA customers after I renew I am going to have a cow...
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FYI only 2.3 (gingerbread) and above supports dual core procs. Im looking forward to the new LG dual core phone but i then found out Froyo comes with it. Crap! Same thing with the Dell tablet from t-mobile coming out next month. Again, Crap!
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lolcopter said:
sprint offers truly unlimited wimax... for now
and i'm not on contract with t-mobile... so if sprint ever gets any decent phones and decides to drop that BS $10/month surcharge for 4g i would consider switching
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Sprint just changed their policy on data usage. Now everyone who signs up a new contract or renews existing contract has to pay the premium $10 per month that they were initially charging for 4G data

Tmobile throttling

The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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This is nothing new, my friend.

No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(

duboi97 said:
No look at my bill cycle date and the date in the notification bar and time
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Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.

Shaul305 said:
aside from the screwup on TMo's end for not starting off the billing cycle the day of (in your case), I find it ironic the message beneath your data usage. Today they sent me a txt with the same msg, put it like this it took me 5 min to download the 3.5mb file that is tweetdeck. shame. all that tethering internet crap caught up to me this month :'(
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Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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Alkaloid said:
Ah, I see. I think Tmobile's hours of operation are on pacific time here in the states. Another hour and forty-five minutes and you should be good.
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I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.

duboi97 said:
Same here I wish there was no cap why is there tethering with a cap, illogical, tmo= fail but still cheaper than att
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To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap

Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.

N8ter said:
I believe they can (not saying they will) throttle you for the month following as well, if they feel you (and others like you) are impacting the quality of service for others.
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Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.

d0es removing the cap procedure with providing different APN still works ? if yessss screw you tmo ;P hope u wont catch me doin it tho pp

anthonys2r said:
To be fair, T-Mobile isnt charging for tethering (from what I know) and it still has unlimited access whereas other companies charge you more for going over or simply has a hard cap
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Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.

aneftp said:
Just to add to this post.
Tmobile changed their "unlimited" to a soft cap at 5GB last fall.
But people like me on the old grandfathered 19.99 BIS plan (yes my BIS works perfectly with my Samsung Vibrant). Aren't grandfathered plans like mine; isn't the soft cap on old users like me at 10GB? instead of 5GB.
I never even reach 1GB on a a good month even with tethering on the Vibrant. But I don't tether that much.
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I totally agree. I first used to get a text saying I hit the 10gb limit then it changed to 5gb. I'm on the g1 plan. Tethering is also not the only culprit. I download mixtapes (for promotional use only) to the phone. I stream. Some of the newer games have some big files to download. Why use wifi I paid for unlimited no quotes web.

reuthermonkey said:
Please do not spread further misinformation on this.
Only Verizon has stated they'll do this. T-Mobile never once said that they would do that. They never have done that.
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Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
eltormo said:
Is not actually unlimited,because when they throttle you pages hardly ever load,the phone is good just for making call and sending text,other than that is completely worthless.
They actually throttle you so hard to 56KB because it is actually the best workaround to actually stop you from using your data,without actually and completely stopping your connection,and they can still claim that it still is unlimited.
Now they are advertising here the Vibrant 4G,with bells and whistles as a 4G phone capable of blazing fast 21MB connection on their 4G HSPA+ network all in very big letters.
And when you read the incredibly small and almost unreadable letters it say HSPA+ 4G no available in Puerto Rico..
And some how their adds are not misleading.
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Deja vu.

LoL. I went into the myaccount app and tried to set an alert for data. It said due to the fact I have an unlimited data plan I can't use this feature. So the app thinks just like me.

duboi97 said:
The picture explains itself ....shame on tmobile lol
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They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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Actually tmobile does state it in the fine print if you look at it.
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Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?

Br1cK'd said:
They did that to me once. Throttled me less than 24 hours until my cycle renewed. Like less than a day matters, apparently it does to them though. Tmo FTW!
Edited, when throttled, it was my experience that turning on edge only data was much faster than the throttled 3g. It seems they don't throttle the edge side, just the 3g data.
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How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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duboi97 said:
How do you get to edge I knew how to in my cliq and mytouch slide but not this phone.
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Settings - wireless and networks - mobile network - network mode.
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Where in the fine print does it say that they're going to cap you for your *next* billing cycle as well?
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My mistake, misread the post you quoted lol.

Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

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DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ

Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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jamieg71 said:
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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US Carries and compatible plans for Galaxy note

Hi Guys, this is my first post.
I am relocating to N.Y. from Europe for work and i am bringing my Galaxy Note with me of course.
I was not aware of the situation in U.S. with phone carriers and I am only beginning to grasp the things you have to suffer.
Could you please recommend me a plan. I have already contacted sprint and they refused to accept my cell phone. I am currently thinking of getting boost mobile unlimited but i can't find out if my phone is fully compatible with their service.
I have no credit history in U.S.. I would like at least 200' 100sms and a few GBs of data. Some minutes for calling landlines in Europe would also be great.
I would realy appreciate your help, feeling kind of lost in the open sea.
Thanks in advance (if the list is complete it could be a nice sticky)
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Your Note will only give you 3G on AT&T or AT&T MVNOs. You will only get Edge at best on TMo, and your phone won't work at all on Verizon or Sprint!
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http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/individual-cell-phone-plans.jsp
Get the 450 min package
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/plans/data-plans.jsp
Get the 2gb package. And unlimited messaging.
The phone works great on AT&T with some pretty good speeds.

As foxmeister said ur only option to use full data is with ATT.
The best thing here is to get a prepaid 50 $ unlimited plan. It comes with unlimited everything. Including data.
However if u have a smart phone then u need another data plan. However ATT is never going to know u have a smartphone since the imei of european phones is not their list.
Many people here are using non smartphone data plan with note with no issues.
However if u want a contract, then again get an iphone 4gs with att and sell the phone and use ur phone with that plan.
Since u dont have a credit history here, ATT will ask u to put in a 1000$ deposit, which they will refund u at the end of the 1st year.

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However if u have a smart phone then u need another data plan. However ATT is never going to know u have a smartphone since the imei of european phones is not their list.
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I thought I saw in another thread some people complaining about having been found out. Was that about U.S. IMEIs or European ones?
When I go to the AT&T shop must I carry my phone with me to show it before they give me the unlimited plan?

Just don't expect much with AT&T in NY, they kinda suck. Lots of dead zones and dropped calls. I have an unlimited data plan with them but on Friday they told me that since I'm in the top 5% of data users they're going to slow down my connection.

amv13 said:
Just don't expect much with AT&T in NY, they kinda suck. Lots of dead zones and dropped calls. I have an unlimited data plan with them but on Friday they told me that since I'm in the top 5% of data users they're going to slow down my connection.
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how much data?

evoloution said:
I thought I saw in another thread some people complaining about having been found out. Was that about U.S. IMEIs or European ones?
When I go to the AT&T shop must I carry my phone with me to show it before they give me the unlimited plan?
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I am sure they will catch you if u use too much data.. may be like over 10gb every month.
U dont have to carry the phone with u.
Good thing about prepaid is that u can always stop using it without loosing much money.
I would consider prepaid as a temporary measure before u understand the coverage and stuff like that..
I think walmart has a plan .. again 50$ unlimited with no carrier specifcation.
This was discussed somewhere in Gnote forum too..

drgopoos said:
I am sure they will catch you if u use too much data.. may be like over 10gb every month.
U dont have to carry the phone with u.
Good thing about prepaid is that u can always stop using it without loosing much money.
I would consider prepaid as a temporary measure before u understand the coverage and stuff like that..
I think walmart has a plan .. again 50$ unlimited with no carrier specifcation.
This was discussed somewhere in Gnote forum too..
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I just checked, it is a T-mobile offer :S

foxmeister said:
Your Note will only give you 3G on AT&T or AT&T MVNOs.
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This is from a Galaxy Note on AT&T.
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Ozidroid said:
This is from a Galaxy Note on AT&T.
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Did u change any settings? Or u just replaced the sim card?

evoloution said:
Did u change any settings? Or u just replaced the sim card?
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That's standard HSPA data speeds. You'll see the DL speed go up to 11mb some nights depending on your area.
You don't have to change anything

amv13 said:
Just don't expect much with AT&T in NY, they kinda suck. Lots of dead zones and dropped calls. I have an unlimited data plan with them but on Friday they told me that since I'm in the top 5% of data users they're going to slow down my connection.
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I am in NY. i don't have issue with it. I got around 1.3-1.8M download speed. no dead zones for me.. where are you in New York ?

Upper East Side (10029). I hope signal is good there.
Off topic: is there a way to say thanks when using the app?
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amv13 said:
Just don't expect much with AT&T in NY, they kinda suck. Lots of dead zones and dropped calls. I have an unlimited data plan with them but on Friday they told me that since I'm in the top 5% of data users they're going to slow down my connection.
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crazy talk said:
how much data?
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There's a guy over at howardforums that got throttled for being "in the top 5%" of data users and he was only at 3GB.

crazy talk said:
how much data?
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I average about 3GB's a month and my high was 6.4GB in Oct.

I am on wifi most of the time and I don't use a ton of talk minutes, so I am using an AT&T GoPhone smartphone plan, $25.00/month for 500MB of data, $0.10 per talk minute.
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-plans/pyg-cell-phone-plans.jsp?wtSlotClick=1-005ZH4-0-2

mashi said:
I am in NY. i don't have issue with it. I got around 1.3-1.8M download speed. no dead zones for me.. where are you in New York ?
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I'm in NYC. Live downtown work in midtown. I have dropped calls all the time and need to reboot my iphone a couple of times a day. I also spend a lot of time upstate (Catskills) and have little to no service up there with AT&T. And they've told me they have no plans to add cell towers.

Hey guys thanks for all the tips. I have been using AT&T gophone unlimited for 10 days. I don't do heavy internet usage but i can say that the data network is speedy and stable in Manhattan. I am not so satisfied with voice call quality and I have some dropped calls or phone takes for ages to connect.
Overall thanks for the help. AT&T worked out of the box and I almost make full use of the device. A strange difference from Europe is that in US data actually works better than voice.
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Ozidroid said:
This is from a Galaxy Note on AT&T.
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Is that prepaid or contract?
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