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vanilla Google Android OS SGS ROM here??

I picked this up from cross posts at modaco and xda-vibrant, but it seems there is a vanilla (no Samsung apps no TouchWiz) Android OS for the i9000 ... which would be cool ... if it worked. But I'm not sure anyone actually tried this on a SGS? It's been tried on a Vibrant (from what I can tell) and it half worked - dialler was not working so no phone :-(
Anyone who wants to keep track, OP at AndroidForums:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-captivate/130487-roms-monaco-releases.html
but I see the last post there 24th July, so maybe this is old news? In which case .. sincere apologies!
I think a lot of us are wanting a vanilla build of 2.1 (because 2.2 is wishing for just too much ;-) )

I desperatly need Vanilla to run on SGS.
If wasn't for the hardware, I would never have bought a SGS. I DETEST any custom UI.

So what advantage would a vanilla OS give me?
I don’t like TWLauncher so I just installed another launcher like ADW, LauncherPro, and I never see TWLauncher again. And I use the SGS apps I like and don’t use the one’s I don’t, what’s the problem?
MaNIaC

MaNIaCv1 said:
So what advantage would a vanilla OS give me?
I don’t like TWLauncher so I just installed another launcher like ADW, LauncherPro, and I never see TWLauncher again. And I use the SGS apps I like and don’t use the one’s I don’t, what’s the problem?
MaNIaC
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Unnecessary bloatware. Even with a Launcher replacement like LauncherPro or ADW, the CrapWiz is still there, all over the OS. Also, it makes upgrades take longer due to development team needing to adjust to their UI of choice.
I sincerelly hope that with Gingerbread and the new Vanilla UI, this crap will be over.

For me it's a matter of compatibility. A small example is Samsung Calendar keeps a local calendar as default. I don't want this since I am fully on google cloud services.
I want the Android OS that asks you for your google account on first boot.
Also, Samsung music player (as good as it may be) is not compatible with many other apps (eg Last.FM scrobbling)
I just get the impression that Samsung have incorporated their own framework to railroad you into the "Samsung" way. Which may be fine for some. I want the "Google" way (having been spoilt with my previous N1/Froyo).
Also, I wonder if vanilla Android OS, the GPS might actually be useful ...

miker71 said:
For me it's a matter of compatibility. A small example is Samsung Calendar keeps a local calendar as default. I don't want this since I am fully on google cloud services.
I want the Android OS that asks you for your google account on first boot.
Also, Samsung music player (as good as it may be) is not compatible with many other apps (eg Last.FM scrobbling)
I just get the impression that Samsung have incorporated their own framework to railroad you into the "Samsung" way. Which may be fine for some. I want the "Google" way (having been spoilt with my previous N1/Froyo).
Also, I wonder if vanilla Android OS, the GPS might actually be useful ...
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Exactly. You buy an Android phone for the Google experience. I just wished it was like Nexus One is.

Having re-read the original thread, I'm led to believe that the vanilla ROM still includes TouchWiz - from the context, I think this is a ROM from MoDaCo's kitchen perhaps, based on a stock Samsung ROM

miker71 said:
For me it's a matter of compatibility.
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So are you saying that compatibility issues disappear if we had a vanilla OS?
miker71 said:
I wonder if vanilla Android OS, the GPS might actually be useful ...
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Would there be a different GPS driver and API if we had a vanilla OS?
MaNIaC

Suggest Mods!

Now that we have our recovery files and root would anyone have any mods to suggest? For one thing I would love to go to Android stock 2.2 and get rid of all the Motorola stuff. I would also love to snatch up the Samsung dialer app. Besides new mods does anyone know how to do this?
If you tried a new mod or have been able to get rid of blur please enlighten us.

If it's possible I'd like to at least go to the stock Android 2.2 theme because the Blur theme makes some apps display incorrectly that are expecting a stock theme:

Cyanogenmod or bust.

i too would love to get rid of MotoBlur and run stock 2.2 or a fast mod

Yeah, I'd just like to get a vanilla version built from source. Although I wouldnt mind being able to have a few of the moto tools already installed on the device.

I know we are somewhat limited by the bootloader, but I too would like to get back to stock android, I just don't care for the moto stuff at all.

I'd love to get rid of the moto crap... I'm new to the android scene and I feel like I bought a name brand PC loaded with ****. Can we revert to a stock android OS?

I for one would love to see MIUI portedto the Droid 2. Where's the Team-D2 MIUI???
Bump +1 on CyanogenMod too. I miss CM from my old D2 :'(

[Q] Sense

Hey I was wondering if there was any way that someone could make a sense rom for the droid 2 and if it would even run on it. Also why wouldn't it work it is just additions to the system/app and system/framework.
Please explain what a locked bootloader restricts. I know it means that you can't use un-official kernels but does that mean you can't change it to sense?\
I would love to have the new sense from the desire HD for the droid 2.

****BUMP****

from what i understand the big thing holding back alot of the dev work for stuff like that on the droid2 is the motorola locked bootloader.... so far i've seen themes and the like with alot of the motoblur taken out/turned off but nothing beyond that (not even an aosp) but i know that its being worked on by some good people and I am holding my breath for the goods to start flowing for both the 2 and the X.... in fact i would really like to have it by the big tx bbq.... kinda soon but i can dream

ljbaumer said:
Hey I was wondering if there was any way that someone could make a sense rom for the droid 2 and if it would even run on it. Also why wouldn't it work it is just additions to the system/app and system/framework.
Please explain what a locked bootloader restricts. I know it means that you can't use un-official kernels but does that mean you can't change it to sense?\
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i adapted somehow htc sense to our Milestone (Droid 1 EU edition) , it works, but lacks speed due to the limited 256MB RAM available, secondly no-one has written a driver that emulated the bcm4329 hardware, so making bluetooth working ok is another major "not working".. even on older htc phones they had problems.
anyways i can say its possible is i did the reverse and put MotoBlur on Milestone, it works but somehow also lacks 512MB RAM here too.
to end this quick note,
HTC sense is not just an addition to the framework, its a different releas of the framework, every vendor does this, so like EU motorola did many updates on the milestone, but only first found now in droidx,droid2...
and porting it is not so simple, but i would think its possible, but i guess its too early for droid2 to have anything running as no real recovery exists, which loads before any os.
the one you got has a live /system when you open recovery, which means you can easily mess up your phone when you start modding to use sense, and pretty much make it unbootable, so a new sbf needs installed, which again means alot of testing before you actually get it working, and then backup? another problem to work with when you make small changes..
its not easy task without a real unlocked boot or a good recovery solution..

ok so technically what would I have to do to put sense on the droid 2?

ljbaumer said:
ok so technically what would I have to do to put sense on the droid 2?
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It will never work 100% of even close enough to have the phone fully functional. People have been trying since the Original Droid. It's also tied into the RIL of phone.

Out of the blue question
What about just theming the home screen menubars to get the sense menubars only? Is that possible?

that should be possible, as a few themes available right now have already altered those files with success. Now you just have to grab a Sense based ROM form a Droid 1 and start copying and modding image files mostly i think. to make a deodexed hybrid of Sense and MotoBlur.

Is is possible to just to have the speed-dialer/contact app working the D2(that is the only real thing I will miss if I go with the D2)?

I'd move to the D2 right away if you can get the HTC keyboard mixed with the multitouch keyboard of the D2, and then add contact app(and all that comes with it), and music app. That all I really like out of my Eris.

If the D1 was able to get a sense port(from what i have seen) how come we cant get it on the D2?

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If the D1 was able to get a sense port(from what i have seen) how come we cant get it on the D2?
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the original Droid ran stock android, but the droid 2 has a custom framework (MotoBlur) and a locked bootloader.

Makes logical sens thanks

best rom

hello, what rom you would reccomend for bravo? camera is doesnt matter

lietuva70 said:
hello, what rom you would reccomend for bravo? camera is doesnt matter
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MIUI. MIUI is based off CM7 but it has a lot more features. I've been having fun with it. Here is close to the latest version MIUI 1.9.2, I'll try getting 1.9.9 working a little while later, but it's not very hard, you could do it yourself.

rdannar's last rom based off miui is smooth like butter! highly recommend

Stock froyo diet works best for me
I am coming from Nexus one and the plain google experience just sucked for me (worst email client ever)
After removing bloatware from stock froyo , I like it. it is fast without the need of overclocking.
I also like data and battery manager, I am on 200mb data plan and have wifi at home and work , those features help me control data usage
With motoblur you can track your phone;s location if it is lost / stolen
I tried some of the roms published here but kept coming back to stock.

On the t-mobile G1, when the Motorola Cliq was released, we were able to copy the apk from the system dump of the cliq into the system or even just install as apk on the G1 (The apk for motorolas tracking thing....) It was just one apk maybe two it didn't require all blur and framework...
It probably does by now, have you considered checking into that though?

http://download882.mediafire.com/f9zhxz4ab1qg/xg038h071w035ax/MIUI.us_MB520_1.8.19_Eng.zip
tried most of the ROMs available and this MIUI just seems to be the best, next to no bugs and translations are all great.

Advice for a stable, updateable ROM for the ZUK Z2 Pro please

Good afternoon everyone. I'm a total (and I mean TOTAL) novice and haven't a clue about hardware, software or firmware, so please be kind.
I bought a ZUK Z2 Pro off Ebay. I like it. It looks nice, it's pretty fast, the battery lasts ages, it's a good size in the palm of your hand and it's got loads of storage.
However, I live in the UK and it's come with this 1.9.104 ST version of ZUI which I believe is some custom ROM installed by resellers to make it compatible for international markets. It's terrible and doesn't do half of what the phone's supposed to do. What's worse, I believe there'll never be any updates on it, so it's likely to be extreme vulnerable from a security point of view. I want to be able to customise the phone so I get the type of functionality I used to get with my OnePlus One.
I'm not interested in becoming a programmer and I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time some new ROM comes along, but I just want a ROM that's not going to crash and at least alerts me when I've missed a call (which doesn't happen with the crappy ROM I have now). I want to get an update to Nougat when that comes to the Z2, but it looks like I won't be able to do that either given I don't get any OTA update notifications.
I'll need the Play Store integrated too, of course. Any advice or recommendations for a version that I can use, is in English and will deliver some updates when I need to get them?
Thanks in advance.

boygav said:
Good afternoon everyone. I'm a total (and I mean TOTAL) novice and haven't a clue about hardware, software or firmware, so please be kind.
I bought a ZUK Z2 Pro off Ebay. I like it. It looks nice, it's pretty fast, the battery lasts ages, it's a good size in the palm of your hand and it's got loads of storage.
However, I live in the UK and it's come with this 1.9.104 ST version of ZUI which I believe is some custom ROM installed by resellers to make it compatible for international markets. It's terrible and doesn't do half of what the phone's supposed to do. What's worse, I believe there'll never be any updates on it, so it's likely to be extreme vulnerable from a security point of view. I want to be able to customise the phone so I get the type of functionality I used to get with my OnePlus One.
I'm not interested in becoming a programmer and I don't want to have to keep wiping my phone every time some new ROM comes along, but I just want a ROM that's not going to crash and at least alerts me when I've missed a call (which doesn't happen with the crappy ROM I have now). I want to get an update to Nougat when that comes to the Z2, but it looks like I won't be able to do that either given I don't get any OTA update notifications.
I'll need the Play Store integrated too, of course. Any advice or recommendations for a version that I can use, is in English and will deliver some updates when I need to get them?
Thanks in advance.
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Use the cm Rom from Emmaus, on zukfans.eu. It's very stable. At the moment only the vibration isn't working.

MacLaughlin said:
Use the cm Rom from Emmaus, on zukfans.eu. It's very stable. At the moment only the vibration isn't working.
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Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.

boygav said:
Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.
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The last one. Don't know the date for sure. Just hit up the forum and you will find it.

boygav said:
Thanks Mac - which version am I looking for?
Much obliged.
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This one - https://emmaus.pro/?dir=Zuk Z2 Pro/CM13

Thanks guys - this is very helpful.
One more daft question for the experts: given the review of the regular ZUK Z2 (ie: not the Pro that I've got) I've read today on Trusted Reviews, which highlighted the same problems I have, is there any real issue with installing the regular official up-to-date version of ZUI from ZUK themselves, and then selecting English as a language?
If I did so, I presume that means I won't have the Google Play Store integrated? Assuming that's the case, is there a way round it?
Thanks again, and apologies if all of this is blindingly obvious to you guys. As I say, I'm pretty much a babe in the woods about this stuff (I once tried installing Oxygen OS on my OnePlus One and failed to the extent I just threw it in a cupboard and bought a new phone).

boygav said:
Thanks guys - this is very helpful.
One more daft question for the experts: given the review of the regular ZUK Z2 (ie: not the Pro that I've got) I've read today on Trusted Reviews, which highlighted the same problems I have, is there any real issue with installing the regular official up-to-date version of ZUI from ZUK themselves, and then selecting English as a language?
If I did so, I presume that means I won't have the Google Play Store integrated? Assuming that's the case, is there a way round it?
Thanks again, and apologies if all of this is blindingly obvious to you guys. As I say, I'm pretty much a babe in the woods about this stuff (I once tried installing Oxygen OS on my OnePlus One and failed to the extent I just threw it in a cupboard and bought a new phone).
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If you want to stick to zui, you could also head to zukfans.eu, there is a global rom with multilanguage and integrated Google play services

So, since November, is there a better suggestion for a stable, updateable ROM for ZUK2 PRO?
I find it very difficult to find one that is not broken. And I don't mind minor broken stuff like vibration, but things like camera or not being able to call, that's important.
I was collaborating with the one from Edgrr000 and emmaus in https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-lineageos-wip-t3551507 but it looks like it is abandoned now.

delawen said:
So, since November, is there a better suggestion for a stable, updateable ROM for ZUK2 PRO?
I find it very difficult to find one that is not broken. And I don't mind minor broken stuff like vibration, but things like camera or not being able to call, that's important.
I was collaborating with the one from Edgrr000 and emmaus in https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-lineageos-wip-t3551507 but it looks like it is abandoned now.
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thank god i'm not the only one finding that a €300+ device should just work and nothing else

Feel free to use the Stock rom. Everything work as it should do.
Or use at least this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/z2-pro-miui-8-touch-drivers-support-t3520833

As the first post says, I am also a novice and dont understand terms like flashing, rooting, TWRP, Qfil etc (I know I m dumb).
I had bought a zuk z2 pro, still on its way, from a supplier who installed a multilanguage custom rom. I tried to read threads here and on the zukfans eu and honestly I m getting more confused...some say stock rom is the best, others mention cyanogenmod etc.....All I need is the english language and google play...does that mean stock rom is enough? will it update automatically to nougat 7?...and another important question...how am I going to remove the custom rom to the stock rom? would that be safe? thanks

Stock ROM is Chinese and had some English translation. A load of things are still Chinese. So far I'm happy with mokee 7.1. A good translation and almost no Chinese stuff

just got mine today with global rom and android 6.0. The gallery app crashed all the time so i flashed it with stock rom and android 7.0. the stock rom has to much chinese for me so looking for a new rom. whats the best and most stable out there at this date?

after this very good tutorial, I finally got myself out of this zuk-whatever-it-is-OS... and I love Mokee.
running MK60.1-z2pro-170403-RELEASE.zip with ease and smile, and I do not think a sec to switch back to ZUI.

tnx, think i'll do that. can't get contacts from gmail to dialer or change launcher. i'll try mokee before i downgrade the phone to a musicplayer

@boygav, i suggest zui v2.3.044 ST very smooth, stable and fully functional...just root and remove chinese apps and u r good to go... I can guidde u if u need assistance

I recommend you the Mokee 7.1.1.
Everything work great (but no u-health and u-touch).
I made a tutorial to install this ROM from the beginning
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/howto-install-mokee-7-1-1-unofficial-t3582686
ROM page :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/development/rom-share-lr-team-zuk-z2row-z2-pro-t3567710

Why not use easily official download site?!
https://download.mokeedev.com/?device=z2pro
Every time up2date and no need to uplaod anywhere!

When I installed my Mokee, there was no Official Mokee version.
So now you can installed the nightly one from official download. But I don't know if everything works well like the unofficial.

Nickthegr8 said:
@boygav, i suggest zui v2.3.044 ST very smooth, stable and fully functional...just root and remove chinese apps and u r good to go... I can guidde u if u need assistance
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Apologies for the delay guys. Nick - I may well take you up on your offer. The security on this ROM is pretty hopeless - I was being spammed really badly with pop-ups the other day there (and it was nothing I'd downloaded or installed either - my browsing history is pretty spotless, I like to think). Seemed the phone had just installed something overnight.
If you have an absolute idiot's guide to installing this and what the hell rooting actually involves, I'd be most grateful.
Many thanks.