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Nand and internal storage space

I love the new Nand builds of Android,I have finally settled on MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.0_NAND version which I am very happy with at the moment.My only problem I have,like many others,is storage space for apps.I think there is only about 48/50mb fre after a clean install.I think I was spoilt after coming from SD install where we had massive storage,I realise I dont need GB's of storage but i do need more as I have installed a few apps and I am down to about 4mb left.I am using app2sd as well.
Is there anyway I can create storage space on my European version?
Thanks

You should install apps2sd and install your apps to your sd card

you get it wrong tigermaster... WITH app2sd and moving apps to sd we got this prob
app2sd is still leaving data in your ram when you move something. and this little data is enough for being a prob when you dont have enough memory

I had the exact same problem. The only real soultion is to install a build that doesn't have Sense, like a Nexus build.
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johncmolyneux said:
I had the exact same problem. The only real soultion is to install a build that doesn't have Sense, like a Nexus build.
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ahhh is that the issue? I was going to say MDJ Gingerbread on mine and I currently have 807mb internal storage w/a healthy app list but no HTC Sense.

Gingerbread
i install nand ginger i have 745 mb left after install and few apps

You guys won't have the problem with TMOUS versions, so it doesn't apply.
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I think a NAND kitchen (is there such a thing?) would help a lot, and of course, barebone android would also help. Can anyone verify if this is possible? And what's the smallest android ROM out there?? I think it would help a lot of chefs could list how much free space is left.

+1 I am also looking for a bare bones Android ROM I can work from, hopefully a few fully working gingerNANDs will be around soon.

Gingerbread, Sense 3.0 and Ext3/Ext4

I am seeing lots of great new ROMs showing up running Gingerbread, and Sense 3.0. What I am not seeing are ones that work well with the EU versions of the phone. I understand that the EU version has less memory.
What ever happened to EXT3 or EXT4 partitions? I don't see any of the new ROMs using this?
I see chefs claiming that their ROMs work on the EU versions, but the reality is that there is nothing left to install any apps.
Am I jumping the gun here? are there any ROMs being made that work with EXT3/EXT4?
I have tried several, and have had to go back to an older Froyo build, that by the way, uses these EXT partitions very well.
If I am out of line, I apologize in advance. Just a little curious if anything is being done in this direction.

They pretty much all use ext. If a rom says ap2sd or app2sd+ or data2sd or anything similar, then it uses ext.

app2sd
None of them really appear to use it. I have tried several, and am out of space as soon as it is finished installing. Not having that issue on my Froyo install.

C0BRA01 said:
None of them really appear to use it. I have tried several, and am out of space as soon as it is finished installing. Not having that issue on my Froyo install.
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which ones have you tried? dungphps kingdom rom works fine on my eu hd2 as does the rcmix 1.8 build

C0BRA01 said:
None of them really appear to use it. I have tried several, and am out of space as soon as it is finished installing. Not having that issue on my Froyo install.
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Hi,
I'm using the one in my sig.
I started with about 150MB of free internal memory and about 500MB free on my EXT.
You might want ti try an app called SuperBox.Great little multi-tool app.
It has the option of moving most of my apps to the sd card,freeing up some valuable internal memory.

Hi!
What if I don't need the latest Sense (3.0)? Which one is the most stable with 2.0?

drolevar said:
Hi!
What if I don't need the latest Sense (3.0)? Which one is the most stable with 2.0?
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Hi,
They are all a bit "quirky",but you might try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919148&highlight=imilka

malybru said:
Hi,
I'm using the one in my sig.
I started with about 150MB of free internal memory and about 500MB free on my EXT.
You might want ti try an app called SuperBox.Great little multi-tool app.
It has the option of moving most of my apps to the sd card,freeing up some valuable internal memory.
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the rom in your sig is in fact not a sense 3.0 rom but a sense 2.1 rom which
Includes portions of Sense 3.0 (LockScreen, Wallpapers, USB Dialog, TaskManager, Weather, Messages
theres a big difference in the 2

EXT partition
BoyPPC's version, which force closed constantly, and Derek0228's. Derek0228's ran ok, but failed to use the EXT partition. I was left with 1 meg for apps. I already have a EXT3 partition that's 1 gig in size, and both failed to use it.
I'll give dungphps's a try this weekend. I have never heard of rcmix. I even looked for that name after you brought it up, and didn't see it listed.
Richy99 said:
which ones have you tried? dungphps kingdom rom works fine on my eu hd2 as does the rcmix 1.8 build
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this is the link for the rcmix ..but again like the sense of eclipse it is sense 2.1 with parts
from sense 3.0
Dungs and AngelDeaths and Dereks and boyppc are the only ones with full sense 3.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707

Perhaps your ext isn't configured correctly? It and the fat partition must be in the correct order, fat32 first, ext second else it won't work.

why ppl manual partition the sd card?
just use cwm to do this ^^

Kameirus said:
this is the link for the rcmix ..but again like the sense of eclipse it is sense 2.1 with parts
from sense 3.0
Dungs and AngelDeaths and Dereks and boyppc are the only ones with full sense 3.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1100707
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from my info the boyppc rom and the imilka are the only ones which are ONLY sense3 without sense2
als others are combinations....
but are there any final result on which is the best sense3+2.1 rom??
i am also thinkin on changing from typhoon cm7 rom to a sense3+2.1 one

[q] please help!!!

Running coredroid desire hd gb v3 ...very smooth and fast but it freezes and doesent respond to touch at times....i followed steps to the letter. I really like this rom.... Please help so i can eliminate problems

blakphoenix said:
Running coredroid desire hd gb v3 ...very smooth and fast but it freezes and doesent respond to touch at times....i followed steps to the letter. I really like this rom.... Please help so i can eliminate problems
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tried a clean install ? wipe cache/data/dalvik cache from cwm. Never restore data, only apps when you install a new rom.

ive done that. problem still exists...please help

Do a real clean, install.
Task 29
Flash magldr
Flash cwm with right partition
Flash rom and wipe everything before.
Make sure if the rom uses a sd ext partition. If so make sure it's big enough 1gb should be the best.
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what if it doesnt require an ex partition can i still use one? and how many ext part should i have? data, cache, system..etc?

blakphoenix said:
what if it doesnt require an ex partition can i still use one? and how many ext part should i have? data, cache, system..etc?
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just use the 1.7 version OF COREDROID EVERTYHING WORKS
its the newest one and without the b.s. problems of ginger

blakphoenix said:
what if it doesnt require an ex partition can i still use one? and how many ext part should i have? data, cache, system..etc?
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No you can use only. The normal a2sd.
You would just need one in your sd card.
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i hear you man but i want a fast 3d rom and this is the fastest ive seen. thats why i didnt go with 1.7. could anything else be the problem

You can try to overclock your ROM but it won´t make your phone/freezes better ...sry

wtf do i have a penguin telling me he knows my ip address n service provider?..btw whats causing my sense to crash. after i download an app or return to home screen it loads for a minute

Your rom has less free ram and kills the launcher.
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i hate to keep bugging you but how do i fix this?

You could Flash another cwm Partition.
Or you install a Task Killer app and let it kill all apps except the important ones to you every 15mins etc
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which task killer app would you suggest

Android task killer
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First hard steps in this forum and [Q] about [ROM]OpenSwift 5.0b3 by Wingrime

Hi Folks!
I'm new here, german and cant post in the thread for the rom, but i have a few questions
I hope i dont spam, but its difficult to do everything right in this huge forum, so please be patient.
so please can you help a newbie in this forum? :victory:
and may you can give some hints for working the phone stable and smooth? read some posts about overclocking (up to 780mhz), but it doesnt work well for me (highest is 690 mhz or something that works stable... how do i find out?) and i dont know if i use the tools the fit the most
thank you

... ok with gapps everything works fine and fast
still want to know how bt calls works?! music plays fine
Does your GPS work? My phone freezes everytime i want to use navigon etc.
Didn't have that problem on other roms

Pestplatte said:
... ok with gapps everything works fine and fast
still want to know how bt calls works?! music plays fine
Does your GPS work? My phone freezes everytime i want to use navigon etc.
Didn't have that problem on other roms
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lol..why use that .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550469 ...for me its the smoothest...everything works well

For me sdsl2.1 is best with 2.6.29revo kernel even battery last for about 2.5 days

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364416 use this.. it's a best..

Pestplatte said:
... ok with gapps everything works fine and fast
still want to know how bt calls works?! music plays fine
Does your GPS work? My phone freezes everytime i want to use navigon etc.
Didn't have that problem on other roms
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wingrime's ROM is very popular in other forums and there's a reason for.
everything works! especially camera libs are much better and .35 is rocking on there. and it isn't slow because it has got bad results in Quadrant.
SmashDrill said:
lol..why use that .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1550469 ...for me its the smoothest...everything works well
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yeah using this too and its very fast, even after many hours of usage (this is my problem with SDSL)
Pana LG GT540 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364416 use this.. it's a best..
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well for me some bugs that stopped me using it, but its the fastest ( with .35) i think
Conclusion: every ROM of these is very good. Great work everyone

andreas__ said:
wingrime's ROM is very popular in other forums and there's a reason for.
everything works! especially camera libs are much better and .35 is rocking on there. and it isn't slow because it has got bad results in Quadrant.
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i made a mistake
gps does work on other roms i tried (aokp 4.0.4 asis by ??? (dev swift), swiftdroid 2.0 asis by mur4ik), but bluetooth calls NEVER worked. the other person on phone hears me, but i hear nothing (as i said: music works) this is not a problem of the headset, because it works well on my laptop and other phones.
will give the other roms a try, a little bit sad, the openswift was the best rom i ever tried but i need GPS!
never had a so fast rom and so much space for system and ram
maybe it depends on my swap? never had it till this rom
a question about swap: more = better? have 1gb swap now (highest in recovery i think)
do i have to make a new swap when i change rom?

Pestplatte said:
i made a mistake
gps does work on other roms i tried (aokp 4.0.4 asis by ??? (dev swift), swiftdroid 2.0 asis by mur4ik), but bluetooth calls NEVER worked. the other person on phone hears me, but i hear nothing (as i said: music works) this is not a problem of the headset, because it works well on my laptop and other phones.
will give the other roms a try, a little bit sad, the openswift was the best rom i ever tried but i need GPS!
never had a so fast rom and so much space for system and ram
maybe it depends on my swap? never had it till this rom
a question about swap: more = better? have 1gb swap now (highest in recovery i think)
do i have to make a new swap when i change rom?
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Swap is like virtual ram it push proceses that you dont use on swap part and frees up the ram
1 gb is more than enough
no you don't

Pestplatte said:
i made a mistake
gps does work on other roms i tried (aokp 4.0.4 asis by ??? (dev swift), swiftdroid 2.0 asis by mur4ik), but bluetooth calls NEVER worked. the other person on phone hears me, but i hear nothing (as i said: music works) this is not a problem of the headset, because it works well on my laptop and other phones.
will give the other roms a try, a little bit sad, the openswift was the best rom i ever tried but i need GPS!
never had a so fast rom and so much space for system and ram
maybe it depends on my swap? never had it till this rom
a question about swap: more = better? have 1gb swap now (highest in recovery i think)
do i have to make a new swap when i change rom?
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1 GB is wasting SD memory
i an currently using 64 MB because my system usually needs around 20-40 MB Swap
only games like GTA 3 need so much memory, but you won't be albe to play these games smooth.
many people complain about BT headsets, most ROMs have problems. you should try some older releases, some of them have it working
(i think about SDSL 1.1 , maybe it'll work)
http://depositfiles.com/files/kf1ehfxkm (SDSL 1.1)
if it doesn't work try some other ROMs (maybe devswift's oxygen, some froyo ROMs etc. )
good luck
EDIT: for wingrimes openswift ROM:
GPS fix: flash this :
http://www.mediafire.com/?fzg7k1gax857j5z
un7zip and flash via fastboot:
fastboot flash boot boot.img (rename it to boot.img)

andreas__ said:
1 GB is wasting SD memory
EDIT: for wingrimes openswift ROM:
GPS fix: flash this :
http://www.mediafire.com/?fzg7k1gax857j5z
un7zip and flash via fastboot:
fastboot flash boot boot.img (rename it to boot.img)
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great, tried it but i sadly i removed cache and userdata
now i have to install all apps a 2nd time i think
about swap: can i change the size without a new installation of the rom?

Pestplatte said:
great, tried it but i sadly i removed cache and userdata
now i have to install all apps a 2nd time i think
about swap: can i change the size without a new installation of the rom?
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tip: use titanium backup! it saves all apps with their userdata
to change the swap size just use CWM again. but save your SD-card files first

andreas__ said:
tip: use titanium backup! it saves all apps with their userdata
to change the swap size just use CWM again. but save your SD-card files first
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yes, was a stupid mistake not backing up my data before :cyclops:
first test (using navigon 4.1.3)
first try: freeze
second try: works
again about swap: what block size do i have to use? 4k? 32k? other?
thanks for your help! your awesome guys! :laugh:

Pestplatte said:
yes, was a stupid mistake not backing up my data before :cyclops:
first test (using navigon 4.1.3)
first try: freeze
second try: works
again about swap: what block size do i have to use? 4k? 32k? other?
thanks for your help! your awesome guys! :laugh:
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How do you resize the SD card now?
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andreas__ said:
How do you resize the SD card now?
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by formatting it in windows (after backing up the data )
here a example
and then in CWM

Pestplatte said:
by formatting it in windows (after backing up the data )
here a example
and then in CWM
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What's the size of your SD card ? I mean like memory ?

smileydr0id said:
What's the size of your SD card ? I mean like memory ?
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8gb

Pestplatte said:
8gb
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you don't have to use the windoof way
just BackUp, and resize with CWM ; its formatted automatically.

andreas__ said:
you don't have to use the windoof way
just BackUp, and resize with CWM ; its formatted automatically.
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nice will now try a other rom, because i have to install all apps new
think im going to try [ROM] GB 2.3.7 | CyanogenMod 7.2 | 2.6.32 Kernel | Build Three by tejas
will try swap 128mb and 150mb system partition (because there stands nothing about needing more space for system on the phone, right?)

Pestplatte said:
nice will now try a other rom, because i have to install all apps new
think im going to try [ROM] GB 2.3.7 | CyanogenMod 7.2 | 2.6.32 Kernel | Build Three by tejas
will try swap 128mb and 150mb system partition (because there stands nothing about needing more space for system on the phone, right?)
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Maybe 160 I'm not sure. And good choice !
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Maybe 160 I'm not sure. And good choice !
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okay did it with 160mb system and its working
till now its all fine, not so smooth but ok
gps is working, camera not so good... tomorrow i will try bluetooth

Searching for HD2 NativeSD minimalistic ROM.

I'm searching for HD2 NativeSD minimalistic ROM. I don't want any animations etc. Is there any ?
I want to have about 200MB of free RAM alltime.

BornToSowDeath said:
I'm searching for HD2 NativeSD minimalistic ROM. I don't want any animations etc. Is there any ?
I want to have about 200MB of free RAM alltime.
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NexusHD2 and a taskmanager...i use ES Task Manager and my phone never Slows Down.....
Hope I Helped....

Try (BareboneCM7_v2b_SRAM) Rom and use the (BareBoneCM7_NativeSD_installer_Diff_Nand) posted on the same thread to make it native compatible

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Try (BareboneCM7_v2b_SRAM) Rom and use the (BareBoneCM7_NativeSD_installer_Diff_Nand) posted on the same thread to make it native compatible
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Oh yeah thats a good rom As well......

BornToSowDeath said:
I'm searching for HD2 NativeSD minimalistic ROM. I don't want any animations etc. Is there any ?
I want to have about 200MB of free RAM alltime.
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Why do you want to have free RAM when you are using NativeSD? Doesn't make sense.

NexusHD2
Got NexusHD2on right now, but in freezes often despite I used new SD card (http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=8GB). Don't know if im doing something wrong...
I just wanna have 1 fast & stable OS on my HD2.

CmTight maybe? "This is the smallest and fastest Jellybean ROM available up to now"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912740

CmTight
emil46 said:
CmTight maybe? "This is the smallest and fastest Jellybean ROM available up to now"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912740
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I've had it on NAND some time ago. Installed it on SD-Ext yesterday and I've same freezes as in the other NativeSD ROMs. When I'm playing a game of just doing something (like YouTube or Facebook) it freezes and there's only one option to get it back (reset).
Can I speak with somebody about the NativeSD method and the procedures I'm performing during installation of NativeSD ROM ? I think I'm doing everything good and it's always the same (freezes).
My Skype ID is : borntosowdeath (Piotr Malczyk).

BornToSowDeath said:
I've had it on NAND some time ago. Installed it on SD-Ext yesterday and I've same freezes as in the other NativeSD ROMs. When I'm playing a game of just doing something (like YouTube or Facebook) it freezes and there's only one option to get it back (reset).
Can I speak with somebody about the NativeSD method and the procedures I'm performing during installation of NativeSD ROM ? I think I'm doing everything good and it's always the same (freezes).
My Skype ID is : borntosowdeath (Piotr Malczyk).
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I have a 32GB (http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/ultra-class10-for-android/?capacity=32GB), a little slower than yours.
I got "error 10 I/O..." for my native SD install (CMight http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912740) some times or some apps get FC. Same behaviour with Nexus JB (tytung) ROM.
Never had this issue before with (same roms) Nand installations and data-on-ext4 with a Sandisk 16GB class4. I suspect HD2 doesn´t handle fast cards very well..

zinko_pt said:
I have a 32GB (http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/ultra-class10-for-android/?capacity=32GB), a little slower than yours.
I got "error 10 I/O..." for my native SD install (CMight http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1912740) some times or some apps get FC. Same behaviour with Nexus JB (tytung) ROM.
Never had this issue before with (same roms) Nand installations and data-on-ext4 with a Sandisk 16GB class4. I suspect HD2 doesn´t handle fast cards very well..
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Should I try data-on-ext or get back to NAND ? ;>

BornToSowDeath said:
I'm searching for HD2 NativeSD minimalistic ROM. I don't want any animations etc. Is there any ?
I want to have about 200MB of free RAM alltime.
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You could try JellyTime. It is very slim.