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Newbie question - I had installed unRevoked last week on my stock EVO to try out the wi-fi tether app. My device does not seem to have recieved the update today. Shouldn't I be able to force it through Settings --> System Updates --> HTC Software update ??
Or does the fact that I have unRevoked block it?
I tried uninstalling unRevoked, but it still looks like I can't force the update?
Any ideas?
You will loose root if you apply it.
https://twitter.com/unrevoked
Worse yet if you accidentally apply twice you brick your phone.
Can't get the update?
Thanks - I was less worried about not being able to unRevoke - what has me worried is I can't seem to force the update and I haven't gotten any message that it's available?
I think it is a rollout update. Wait it out.
a question
I've been following the 'how to gain root access after OTA' thread and have a question, but they don't want people posting anything not DIRECTLY RELATED to hacking after OTA there anymore. So, I will try this question here. Here goes :
I have NOT done the 1.47.651 June 29 OTA update, I keep refusing it. My Evo is essentially stock (no rooting, no unrevoked, etc. ) I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA. also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked. Or do I need unrevoked2?
I've been to unrevoked Twitter page and unrevoked docu.wiki and see some information, (but not enough for someone new to Android like myself), and no way to ask/post questions directly. So, I am trying here. My main interest isn't even so much root, it's that I want to be able to tether via USB without having to use extra software like PDAnet.
Any help or a point in the right direction, much thanks.
Scott
scottspa74 said:
I would like to know if I can run unrevoked since I haven't done the OTA.
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Yes.
scottspa74 said:
also, would like to know if I can do the OTA and STILL run unrevoked.
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No.
scottspa74 said:
Or do I need unrevoked2?
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You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Yes.
No.
You need to use unrevoked2 and use their modified OTA which will give you the benefits and maintain root. If you install the official OTA at any point, you will lose the ability to root, period (until someone figures out a new way to do it )
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Thank you. You even broke it into separate questions. last clarification, I promise: with no OTA I CAN use unrevoked1 and that doesn't break 4G/not what's being blamed for breaking 4G?
I'm not too concerned with most of the root features, I just wanna be able to tether, so I'm thinking unrevoked1 would be good enough for me, (if It's not what's responsible for breaking 4G on non-updated devices)
Thanks again.
We all know that the new update will come soon.
But does everyone know that it looks like with the new update we won't be allowed to flash back to older versions of the software. We won't be able to downgrade to a previous version it seems, due to journaling being enabled. We will lose functionality.
Does anybody know what this would mean for rooting and mods?
Is this something that we would have to be concerned about?
Speaking in purely speculation here, wouldn't it be beneficial to at least try the previous "retain root" strategy? It's possibly, though incredibly unlikely, that they haven't fixed that loophole yet. Might as well also try Gingerbreak on it too.
In the long run though, someone will eventually crack it it. It's inevitable really. And with Motorola claiming that the bootloader will be unlocked later this year, perhaps patience is really what we all need.
Gingerbreak should work fine because its not a logic crack such as psneuter its an overflow crack. Retain root should also work but Im not sure about that.
A good rule of thumb is to let others who are either developers or brave souls update and report back what can and can't be done after an update. If you want to retain what freedom you have with your Atrix to date, do not update until official word comes from enlightened.
Dont worry the minute the new update rolls out, im going to try to root it using gingerbreak
Heh, I plan to just go ahead with it. The only root apps I really use anyway are TB and screenshot stuffs and I can live without GingerBlur. Especially since they allow you to simply uninstall the AT&T apps ^^
Speaking of which, what do you guys think, should we flash a fresh SBF before updating if we've already flashed a pseudo-ROM?
Fresh start so we don't bash the new update caused by a third party app or mod, good luck
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App
KefkaticFanatic said:
Heh, I plan to just go ahead with it. The only root apps I really use anyway are TB and screenshot stuffs and I can live without GingerBlur. Especially since they allow you to simply uninstall the AT&T apps ^^
Speaking of which, what do you guys think, should we flash a fresh SBF before updating if we've already flashed a pseudo-ROM?
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There is an screenshot app that doesn't need root - screen grabber - on the forum and in the market.
As for SBF before an update - based on past experience, you have to. The udpate will fail with the yellow triangle if you don't.
DON'T UPDATE YET. we need the time to analyze it. It is suggested this update modifies the bootloader to disallow flashing back to a previous version.
I'm aware of the conditions. They'll either crack it eventually or I can just wait for the bootloader unlock. I don't need root. Losing Amazon would be annoying though.
franciscojavierleon said:
DON'T UPDATE YET. we need the time to analyze it. It is suggested this update modifies the bootloader to disallow flashing back to a previous version.
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This is actually my biggest concern...
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Now I have never actually created an exploit for rooting a device, but I had an idea about one, as I have a general gist about it. I don't know if this is what RazorClaw did, but surely something can be done with Asus App Backup? Seeing as it has read and write access to apps, is there the potential to add a backup that will install root in some way?
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!
habylab said:
Just an idea... really want to root my sbkv2 b70!
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Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?
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Just wondering.... why not use the existing root options that are available for SBKv2 devices?
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First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
To the OP:
RazorClaw was used to invoke root user access, then remount /system as rw, and add Superuser, plus the matching su binary.
fonix232 said:
First of all, RazorClaw is the only option for SBKv2, and it was fixed in the latest update.
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First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model
Sorry for the confusion! I am on the latest firmware!
Thanks for the tips on how razorclaw worked, really helpful. What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future. Also, thank you for that link I will give it a try now.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
habylab said:
What are the chances of something similar happening in the near future
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I would say it is pretty likely that Asus will continue to close root exploits as they are discovered. Especially so for ones that can be done via an installed app, as malicious apps can (and have in the past) make use of this with ill intent
That's fine, as I am sure I wouldn't update as quickly next time. I only did because it was on 3.1 and I had just got it and noticed huge lag on keyboard and device. Wanted to make sure it was updated, but didn't realise it was an Apple style mouse game of closing exploits!
Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!
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First of all, you can downgrade your firmware, and still use RazorClaw
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417006
Second of all, the OP has not stated that he is running the latest update, just that he has an SBKv2 model
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1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault
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Ok guys that method linked worked perfectly! Now I just need to know how to install CWM. I get a android with a caution exclamation mark. Any help appreciated!
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go to the market and find 'recovery installer'.
it will install CWM for you.
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1, You don't have to be rude
2, I haven't noticed that thread until I sent my message, and I saw after that it was there.
3, It's simply logic. If the user knows RazorClaw, and won't use it, it means the user have tried it already and it didn't work, so he wanted to find another hole.
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1) Nothing rude was intended. Sorry if you read into something that wasn't there
2) Hardly my fault
3) Funny that RazorClaw is still what he used to do it then..
Like you said yourself, no need to be rude
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Now now guys... I used RazorClaw in the end as I didn't know before I could downgrade. And thank you, installed recovery and installing Revolver!
The latest 3.2.1 update is pissing me off, I figured I'd do it, then re-root and -enable adhoc support, which is all I care about as far as needing root for. Now I realize the root for the latest will cause me to reload the entire setup/apps and think it sucks.
So, what is so dang important in these updates to start with?
It was up to you whether you applied the OTA update. You didn't have to. Caveat Emptor!
That wasn't addressing the question asked.
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That wasn't addressing the question asked.
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The question seemed rhetorical coming from someone that took a 3.2.1 update expecting to maintain root.
Next time use this to maintain root through OTA:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
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The question seemed rhetorical coming from someone that took a 3.2.1 update expecting to maintain root.
Next time use this to maintain root through OTA:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
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The question was not rhetorical. I did not mean to allow it to update, it was done by accident when clearing notifications.
Thanks for the link, if it works I'll do it.
BBAHunter said:
The latest 3.2.1 update is pissing me off, I figured I'd do it, then re-root and -enable adhoc support, which is all I care about as far as needing root for. Now I realize the root for the latest will cause me to reload the entire setup/apps and think it sucks.
So, what is so dang important in these updates to start with?
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Heh, I feel your pain, but I think you're overlooking the bigger picture.
If you're already on these forums, and have rooted your device, OTA's are a bit of a non-issue. (personally I think they're over-rated) Grab a custom rom and have at 'er.
Also reloading setups/apps is a pain in the arse but you'll likely have heard a dozen times or more to use TitaniumBackup, it does help so you don't have to redownload all of your apps after an update, or rooting, or installing a custom rom.
Hey all. I've searched through the forums, but it seems like talk of the NC has stopped in favor of talk of the NT, and I can't find the info I need.
I have a nook color running 1.4.1, unrooted. I've seen plenty of threads about how to sideload apps on the NT running 1.4.1 without rooting, but no one seems to have explained how to do this for NC. Is it still possible? If anyone can explain how to get it done, please let me know. All I really want is the Amazon Appstore and the Kindle app, so I'm not sure I really need to do a full-fledged root. I really like the Nook interface and don't want to have to flash CM7 to just read my Kindle books.
Thanks
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Hey all. I've searched through the forums, but it seems like talk of the NC has stopped in favor of talk of the NT, and I can't find the info I need.
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Still a lot of love for the NC! It's still much more hackable than the NT.
I have a nook color running 1.4.1, unrooted. I've seen plenty of threads about how to sideload apps on the NT running 1.4.1 without rooting, but no one seems to have explained how to do this for NC. Is it still possible? If anyone can explain how to get it done, please let me know.
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I don't believe sideloading apps on the NC ever was possible without rooting. I do not recall any discussions of how to do so.
All I really want is the Amazon Appstore and the Kindle app, so I'm not sure I really need to do a full-fledged root. I really like the Nook interface and don't want to have to flash CM7 to just read my Kindle books.
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You can easily root B&N 1.4.1 without losing any B&N functionality. You can load the Kindle and Amazon App store apps with no problem. If that's all you want to do, you don't have to do anything more. GMPOWER has kindly devoted a lot of effort into developing the ManualNooter tool to make this simple. I've put together a guide on using his tool, plus a few other tips for those that prefer to stay with the B&N software. You certainly do not need to load CM7 to read Kindle books!
I don't have the stock 1.4.1 ROM so I can't tell you for sure but there are members reported that side-loading works fine on rooted stock 1.4.1 while others said they can't.
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You can easily root B&N 1.4.1 without losing any B&N functionality. You can load the Kindle and Amazon App store apps with no problem. If that's all you want to do, you don't have to do anything more. GMPOWER has kindly devoted a lot of effort into developing the ManualNooter tool to make this simple. I've put together a guide on using his tool, plus a few other tips for those that prefer to stay with the B&N software. You certainly do not need to load CM7 to read Kindle books!
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How easy is it to unroot from this method? Is there a simply tutorial on how to do that as well?
I don't want to root unless I know I can unroot just as easily, in case I need warranty support.
Just about anything you want to do to the nook is just as easily undoable. Returning to stock is a non-issue, easy as pie. Although in truth, there is almost no reason to do so. There would have to be a hardware issue, as I have yet to see an unsolved ROM or software problem on these forums, and I've seen some crazy stuff.
The nook.is a great machine, with amazing capabilities considering its origins. Adding the custom ROM makes it better in every concievable way. I ran stock software for almost nine months and regret every minute of it. GMpower did yeoman's work putting ManualNooter together for the cautious types, but I truly would recommend going whole hog with cyanogen.
I had a warranty issue with my sdcard slot after I rooted it, and even with no sdcard, I got it back to stock, replaced, and then flashed a backup of my install, all my books and apps right back to the way they were.
Everyone should root. You own the device, there is no reason not to maximize its abilities.
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How easy is it to unroot from this method? Is there a simply tutorial on how to do that as well?
I don't want to root unless I know I can unroot just as easily, in case I need warranty support.
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In his thread on MN for 1.4.1, the illustrious GMPOWER points to the NOOKdevs procedure for restoring to stock. I've used it myself a few times, and he would certainly know!
I've been running B&N 1.4.1 rooted for over a month using MN with no big issues. There are a few interface glitches that cause menus to appear as white on white, but that's about it.
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I've put together a guide on using his tool, plus a few other tips for those that prefer to stay with the B&N software. You certainly do not need to load CM7 to read Kindle books!
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I'm a little confused about the guide you posted. It seems like the goal of steps 1-4 is to get an unrooted 1.4.1 running, but I already have that. Do I still need to follow these steps? if not, can you give me an updated version of the guide?
marchingknight11 said:
I'm a little confused about the guide you posted. It seems like the goal of steps 1-4 is to get an unrooted 1.4.1 running, but I already have that. Do I still need to follow these steps? if not, can you give me an updated version of the guide?
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Your timing is impeccable. I just updated the version over at androidforums to include some "start here" instructions. Take a look there. I'll be updating the version here when I get some time. Use the version of MN from GMPOWER's thread. I need to update those links as well (though no harm will come from using the version prior.)