sense 3.0 NDT with 512 ext partition,possible? - HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera

hi,
i want to install that great Rom (find it here) but i have only 1Go sd card and the developer said that it needs 1Go ext partion,if i install this rom with only 512 ext partion will the phone boot normally? if no,why?
note that i will not install applications, i want only to try the rom
many thaks

i found in the rom's folders one named "sd-ext" its size i just 473Mo so less then 512Mo

no one can help me?

probaly need a lrger partition due to system files and apps going on there, you might get it installed but highly unlikely you will be able to install many apps

I'd recommend 700MB sd-ext and the rest is for you. so that you can have about 200 for apps and the other 200 is for your files

Marvlesz said:
I'd recommend 700MB sd-ext and the rest is for you. so that you can have about 200 for apps and the other 200 is for your files
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but the rom that i will install have more 300Mo,so cant

hamzawi said:
but the rom that i will install have more 300Mo,so cant
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Yes, can.
The ROM creator will probably put some system apps + dalvik cache on the sd-ext.
most ROM's will not use more than 500MB SD-EXT. So you can make a partition with the size of 700MB (as a precaution incase the ROM took more Megabytes and for your apps ) and the remaining (about 270MB) is for you to put your music, photos, documents and so on.
Plus, you have nothing to lose, try it, if it doesn't work report back here and we'll try a different combination

Put .zip with the ROM to the card and flash it. But do NOT try to boot. Instead of it take card from phone, format it to 700/300 as previously said, put it back and after that try to boot.

zbeky said:
Put .zip with the ROM to the card and flash it. But do NOT try to boot. Instead of it take card from phone, format it to 700/300 as previously said, put it back and after that try to boot.
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I thought to do that,but i think that the rom will need the partition while installing the sytem,so if you haven't the ext partition ready,install will abort
i
installed the rom using only 512 ext partition but it stucks in the htc logo now i installed another rom (sense 2.1) but i want to install the sense 3
Thank you Marvlesz and zbeky for your help

If i look at my ext3 partition the is almost 800 MB on the drive.
I use a 1.5 GB ext3 partition and is running verry smooth with sense 3.5

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How to setup apps2sd?

Can anyone explain to me how i would setup apps2sd as i have no idea how i would set it up.
i think this way will be a "fail safe" way to do it. but it will/could take an extra install of a ROM.
Back up whole SD-card to example a PC.
install ẂildPuzzleROM
Start Rom Manager and choose partition SD-card and something similar.
Choose size of the ext-partition for example 512mb and you DONT need a swap.
You should now have an ext-partition and the phone should reboot automatic.
Now you can choose to upload all files you wanna flash to a folder on sd-card and reinstall rom and flash apps2sd files.
Hope this helps.
Regards Daniel
ps. their are many ways to make a partition on a sd-card, but this way should work for all users on what ever system and hardware they have.
how do i move existing apps to sd?
Same problem , I have the EXT partition, I have puzzle rom with the corrects zip installed.
But how can i move app to SD.....
is there a menu, do i need to make a cp ?
app2sd
WildPuzzleROM v6 is still as unstable, can be installed app2sd to Update 1.25.405.1? (I tried to stick 0005 + 0010 but I got stuck gadesc that I did something right) is a little help if possible?
sry for my english , i hope u understan what i mean
andylyf said:
how do i move existing apps to sd?
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read bellow
niko83dk said:
Same problem , I have the EXT partition, I have puzzle rom with the corrects zip installed.
But how can i move app to SD.....
is there a menu, do i need to make a cp ?
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If you have an ext partition on your SD, then you should have flashed the apps2sd package, you had rebooted your phone and it TOOK SO MUCH TIME, well apps2sd did move every apps to SD at this moment, apps2sd doesn't allow to choose between phone's and SD memory, that's the way froyo handle this feature.
qwerr said:
WildPuzzleROM v6 is still as unstable, can be installed app2sd to Update 1.25.405.1? (I tried to stick 0005 + 0010 but I got stuck gadesc that I did something right) is a little help if possible?
sry for my english , i hope u understan what i mean
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Nandroid backup => format SD card with an ext partition (rom manager) => do a full wipe => flash v6 + apps2sd + move dalvik cache, reboot and wait a long moment before the lockscreen shows up. Voila ! Stable v6 with apps2sd !
If you have an ext partition on your SD, then you should have flashed the apps2sd package, you had rebooted your phone and it TOOK SO MUCH TIME, well apps2sd did move every apps to SD at this moment, apps2sd doesn't allow to choose between phone's and SD memory, that's the way froyo handle this feature.
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And what does it do with new installed apps. Does it write it to SD or intern mem?

[Q] Question about phone backup

Hi, i am very new here and ilack some of the basic info. so i have couples of questions. thanks very much for your answers.
1. what is the internal memory of the htc hd2? and when you partition your sd to fat32 and ext3, will the internal memory be the sum of the ext3 and the phone internal storage?
2. when you want to flash your hd2 with a new rom. do you need to format both partitions of your sd card (fat32 and ext3)
3. when i tried the latest ultimate droid rom, i saw the author posted the rom and another thing called the layout (3.0.2.4_magldr_150M_partitionLayout_30M_cache). what does this do?
4. how do you make the phone to move or install apps in the ext3. and how do you back up those data and apps in the ext3?
and again, thanks guys for helping me out.
1 internal memory, do you mean what's available after a flash? 260 Meg or so with the small cm7 roms (typhoon for example)
No, the internal memory wont show the sum of internal plus ext BUT it will work as if it is. Say you install a 20meg program, internal mem goes down 20 but back up 20 after a restart.
2 no, when you perform the wipes through cwm it takes care of the ext partition and the .android folder on the fat32 for you.
Some apps may put data on the fat32, in which case you can delete those if you want or if you have isues.
3 the layout (clockworkmod, or cwm) sets up the various partitions on your nand (internal) memory, boot, system,cache,data. Without the layout there would be nowhere for the rom to flash into.
The main point of interest in cwm is the system partition size, big roms need big system partitions, sense roms for ex. need 250meg or more, typhoon needs 130. Flash a big rom to small layout fails, small rom on big layout wasted space.
4 you don't, if the rom says ap2sd enabled or words to that effect, it does it automatically. You can test this by loading up some apps then browsing the SD card on a Linux PC
When you run backups and such, it just does it, the phone has no idea that some of the info is on the SD, it treats it as internal.
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Say you install a 20meg program, internal mem goes down 20 but back up 20 after a restart.
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i dont understand why is that? so if the rom is apps2sd supported, it will automatically install apps to ext3. then it makes sense to me that the mem goes down, but then why it goes back up???
Example, 250meg internal plus 1gig ext partition.
internal memory shows as 250meg,, install 20 Meg app which goes to ext partition BUT the system displays internal mem as 230, , you reboot the phone and check again and internal memory shows as 250 again.
oh, thanks alot, i get it. but which backup solution is the best? and how does backup using clockworldmod work? does it make a backup file to sd card?
ljaypham said:
oh, thanks alot, i get it. but which backup solution is the best? and how does backup using clockworldmod work? does it make a backup file to sd card?
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Hi,
It depends what you want to back up.CWM backup will take a snapshot of your entire ROM system,data,settings,everything.A bit like a ghost image of a drive on your PC.
This way, if you install a new ROM and there is a problem,or you don't like it,you can RESTORE your original ROM and everything is back the way it was before.
CWM backup saves to the sd card.
If you just want to backup data,use something like Titanium Backup.

[Q] My HTC HD2 device internal memory is only of 24mb??? please help me out.

Hi Friends,
I am using Desire HD rom on my htc hd2, for me everything working great but my internal memory is only of 24MB
Please help me out....
please provide me the information om how to increase internal memory....
Please do not make two threads on the same issue.
use app2sd !!!!
devfeel said:
Hi Friends,
I am using Desire HD rom on my htc hd2, for me everything working great but my internal memory is only of 24MB
Please help me out....
please provide me the information om how to increase internal memory....
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it would be usefull if you told us exactly which desire hd rom, how you are running it (daf, cwm, sd card), and whether you have an ext partition on your sd card. Oh, and which phone you have, regular or tmous.
Sense roms are big, they take up a big chunk of the nand, so it is almost always essential to use app2sd and/or data2sd. (read the thread for the rom you have to know which it supports)
More accurate info = more accurate help.
rubbish info = rubbish guesswork help.
samsamuel said:
it would be usefull if you told us exactly which desire hd rom, how you are running it (daf, cwm, sd card), and whether you have an ext partition on your sd card. Oh, and which phone you have, regular or tmous.
Sense roms are big, they take up a big chunk of the nand, so it is almost always essential to use app2sd and/or data2sd. (read the thread for the rom you have to know which it supports)
More accurate info = more accurate help.
rubbish info = rubbish guesswork help.
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Thanks for your reply...
here is my details..
ROM : LeoRCMix S v.1.5 (RCMixS v.2.0) [Sense 2.1+3.0]
Running using : CWM
Phone : HTC HD2
Im using : TMOUS
I know i have to use app2sd/data2sd.. but im not sure how to config it.. even i tried to do but im struck with boot screen..
ok, so it should only need a 200 meg system partition, so my guess would be that you haven't set up the 1gb ext partition? you can do that through cwm (backup your sd card first, it will get formatted) and
but im not sure how to config it
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you dont have to. it does it itself so long as you have the ext partition properly created. I also think that if you DONT have the ext partition set up yet, you will probably need to reinstal the rom after you DO set it up.
So, summary, , , question 1 - do you have an ext partition set up?
(Also, and this causes a lot of confusion, , , when the system uses an ext partition, it DOES NOT show the extra space in the available memory count, but it does get used, , so for example my phone shows 210MB or so free internal space, , , i install a 10MB probgram, that goes down to 200, BUT after i reboot, it goes back up to 210, , because the prog has actually installed to my 512MB ext partition, not the 210 internal space.)
samsamuel said:
ok, so it should only need a 200 meg system partition, so my guess would be that you haven't set up the 1gb ext partition? you can do that through cwm (backup your sd card first, it will get formatted) and you dont have to. it does it itself so long as you have the ext partition properly created. I also think that if you DONT have the ext partition set up yet, you will probably need to reinstal the rom after you DO set it up.
So, summary, , , question 1 - do you have an ext partition set up?
(Also, and this causes a lot of confusion, , , when the system uses an ext partition, it DOES NOT show the extra space in the available memory count, but it does get used, , so for example my phone shows 210MB or so free internal space, , , i install a 10MB probgram, that goes down to 200, BUT after i reboot, it goes back up to 210, , because the prog has actually installed to my 512MB ext partition, not the 210 internal space.)
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Yes i have ext 1GB partition and i created using CWM and i have 400MB patition layout.. but still i am having low memory issue.. can you please tell me how to use data2sd with respect to thr above rom..
devfeel said:
and i have 400MB patition layout..
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then you are wasting 200 meg, , that rom says in post 1
EU and TMOUS: 200M system + 1GB EXT partition
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that means you have 200 meg empty in your system partition, not being used.
Stuff that you install do not get installed to the system partition, nothing (or at least not apps / settings) gets put into the system partition, except the system at installation.
Do a full cwm backup, reflash using a 200MB partition layout, reflash the rom to teh new layout, restore your data and sd-ext partitions from advanced restore (in cwm) and you will recover the 200MB
samsamuel said:
then you are wasting 200 meg, , that rom says in post 1
that means you have 200 meg empty in your system partition, not being used.
Stuff that you install do not get installed to the system partition, nothing (or at least not apps / settings) gets put into the system partition, except the system at installation.
Do a full cwm backup, reflash using a 200MB partition layout, reflash the rom to teh new layout, restore your data and sd-ext partitions from advanced restore (in cwm) and you will recover the 200MB
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Thanks a lot... now i understood wht is system and data memory.. now i got 200mb internal memory.. thanks again
same problem
i have a nand of 4.1.2 in my hd2 its pacman
it shows system memory only 13mb, i have removed all apps i installed earlier but still no space freed, can i atleast get the same 150mb back which i had earlier i.e any way to wipe all data on it/hard reset it?
is there any way of expanding the memory? because after i have installed 10-15 apps the memory vanished(even though i moved the apps to sdcard using app2sd) does that means i can not install more apps any way??
p.s i am a new user of android dont know how to install new rom etc so please explain the solution in simple steps.

[Q] Move apps from sd-ext to NAND, then repartition SD card

Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!
ejebyte said:
Hi guys,
I've installed a CM7 ROM then installed S2E, then flashed an AOSP build to replace it. When I try to use S2E to move the apps back to NAND from sd-ext, it shows up in NAND in the first couple of boots, but later on goes back to sd-ext without S2E doing the job. I kinda figured that it's built into the ROM to move the apps to sd-ext.
What would be the safest way to move the apps from sd-ext back to /data/app, and then repartition my SD card into a single partition and use its whole storage capacity?
Thanks in advance!
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try link2sd in the market,it's free,but once you've moved all u want to,boot into recovery and wipe cache partition and wipe dalvik,that MIGHT do the trick
one question, how do you want to partition your sd? i mean one fat or one ext partition? But seriously, one partition is a bad idea, i wouldnt recommend that.
@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?
Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Ty5982 said:
Partition ur sd card in recovery with 1gb and swap size 64mb,THEN,open link2sd and when u 1st open it,it checks your phone and sd card then prompts u were u want to send apps to,ext 2,3,4 or FAT 32,select FAT 32 as its what u want,then a error msg will appear,reboot,then open link2sd and now you've got your fat 32 lol
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Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]
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Won't that have moved his apps to a fat32 partition?
If I'm reading this correctly what the OP wants is to move his apps to NAND so he can format his sd card to its full capacity in FAT32, presumably so he can use it as a normal SD card (eg for a camera, moving files etc)
I personally use a very popular app called DarkTremors Apps2SD GUI, it comes preinstalled on a lot of custom ROMS. This app checks where your apps are when you launch it, and gives you the option to either move them to SD-EXT or back again. Launch APPS2SDGUI, let it check your system, then click 'Apps are on SD!' to move them back to NAND.
P.S. I don't think you can wipe the SD-EXT partition off the SD card using Windows' built-in formatter. There are lots of freeware apps that can and will do this though, google is your friend =]
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@Ty5982, unfortunately it didn't work. It went badly and I lost the apps in sd-ext so I ended up restoring them..
@jwchips, thanks! Will try that one instead. Yep, I've read about the tools/apps that can be used to partition/format storage devices with EXT. Thanks again.
ejebyte said:
@Ty5982, Thanks for the input! Will try that later.
@greg17477, I'm using Windows so I want to format it to a single Fat32 partition. What's your recommendation?
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well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.
greg17477 said:
well i would recommend tu have 2 partitions, ext and fat. Just to be safe or prapared in case your want to try a different rom. Nowadayes almost every rom uses ext partition. And you won't run out of space, if you install some more apps.
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I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.
ejebyte said:
I see. Thanks! Currently I have a 512MB EXT partition on my SD card. I thought I'd be able to choose which apps to move there but it seems my ROM automatically symlinks the apps installed to the EXT partition.
So I decided I want to just install the apps to NAND since I don't really install a lot of apps and I'm using a TMOUS HD2, just for an extra boost in performance compared to when apps are installed to SD-EXT. Then I'll just selectively move apps to SD.
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ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition
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ah ok, on TMOUS HD2 you might do not need an ext partition
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That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!
ejebyte said:
That's what I've figured..
I might just back-up everything then re-flash and repartition my phone and SD card. Anyway, thanks everyone!
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Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks
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Hi, I hope you guys are still around, I´ve been looking for an answer and can´t find anything, heres the question I posted on another thread:
I´ve been having trouble with my phone freezing even after full wipes, so I´ve come to the conclusion my sdcard is corrupt.
So I want to go through the Gparted process to format and re-partition my sdcard.
Currently I have 16GB class 6, which has the recommended FAT32 and 1GB ext4.
Is it safe (or even possible) to format the sd card now. I tried with Gparted and only the FAT32 partition showed up???
The rom is runnymede aio which requires the ext4
Thanks
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be sure to format both partitions as primary.

[Q]Any help for My best HD2 ROM Ever tested ???

This is the best HD2 ROM I've ever tested but only missing 1 thing... space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1022108
The Amazing Qaliza incredible S V2.... It have all the requirments for day to day use as speed, stable and even looks gr8
Is there any way I can increase the internal space as I get only 81 MB after install wich is not enough for my day to day used apps....
Any help would be thankfull
Use an ext partition, as per post 1.
1st of all thx for the reply
In fact that's what I've did.. but the thing is in post 1 it's mentioned for the V4 ROM which is Data2sd while this ROM is built on app2sd.. and this is the problem...
So any Ideas????
Ap2sd and data2sd both use the same ext.
also, you are aware that the system wont include the ext value when you view available storage, right? But it will use it as internal storage.
So say you have 80mb free plus a 1gb ext partition, your available storage shows as 80mb, but really its 1104mb.
Third party apps like titanium WILL include the ext value.
the thing is that it's included and this is 4 sure... but I really can't install any new apps as it says you are running out of storage... and this is the problem.
In titanium backup I have the storage reading like this :
System ROM:325 MB (3.28 MB Free)
Internal :95.6 MB(12.1 MB Free) - and this is the problem
SD card: :2.90 GB(148 MB Free)
SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
So this is the problem in easy way.... Any help, Plzzzzzzzzzzz
I've tested alot and alot of ROM's but I think this is the most stable, smooth, fast and even all features working in excellent Condition such as camcorder, vedio playing and all the stuff you need in day to day.
So if you could suggest another ROM that functions as good as this one it would be gr8 to have it but the thing is that it should support Arabic language as well.
Sorry for the long reply but just wanted to clear my point of view and my request
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SD card a2sd:1.00 GB (808 MB Free) which I can't do any thing with them
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Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?
as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.
icke said:
Most of your apps downloaded from market will be installed there. So...what did you mean with "which I can't do any thing with them"?
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samsamuel said:
as post above, and also, could it be that the 200mb used in your sd-ext partition is left over from an old rom?
To wipe the sd-ext, go into cwm and run a wipe data/factory reset (but this will of course reset the rom and wipe the phones data, so do a backup first)
Also, i think there are some terminal commands to restart/activate app2sd (or data2sd, ) perhaps they would help?
For me, the one time months ago that i had issues with teh sd-ext partition seemingly not being used, i just took a backup, repartitioned the sd card, reflashed the rom (since i suspect that app2sd is initialised during first boot) and it worked.
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That's what I'm talking about... That I've done task29 wipedata/factory reset b4 starting to install the ROM and when 1st start it the sd-ext is almost free then while installing the apps some go there and alot doesn't !!!!
for example now I have about 11MB free on the internal storage and 808 MB Free on the sd-ext, If I tried to install an app that is 14 MB I wouldn't be able to do so
For your knowledge, I've tried to install alot of rom's and they worked perfect, tried to contact Qaliza but I think he is busy now repling for my Issue, wiped my phone till I felt it wouldn't remember that he is a cell phone any more reinstalled the rom many times and always have the same Issue with the low disk space.... I think I'm in need of a patch or something like this.
Now I have a Q:
If I used this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20776525&postcount=2733 will it help or will it corrupt my ROM only??
sorry if my Q looks stupid but I'm really looking for any thing that could help

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