Kinda lost, still don't fully understand WP7. I bought the phone a few weeks ago with a Mango Beta installed on it. Someone brought it to my attention that when the legit Mango comes out that I won't be able to update to it. How can I get my phone to where I can update it when the official Mango release comes out? I have searched this but I'm not sure if reading on a different phone forum makes a difference. And people answer this question in different ways so it's a little confusing. Thanks guys!
First thing to do is check which version of the software you have on your phone, settings - about - more info.
If you have an OS version number greater than 7.0.7392 but less than 7720 you have a beta build of the OS and you wont be able to directly update the OS to Mango. This is because when the beta version of the OS was loaded it took a backup of your phone for you to return to when the official update was released. The backup is keyed to you device ID and means that a backup from someone else's phone wont work on yours.
However there are methods that will allow you to update to the RTM version of the OS at this link HERE or HERE but be warned that the update that is coming out in the next couple of weeks will have the extra drivers and tweaks that are specific to the DVP from Dell.
If you don't feel confident with that, you could try getting the person you bought it from to restore it back to the old version so that you can receive your update, or phoning dells support (Ouch!)
Looks like there may be an official way to install the final Mango without rolling back to NoDo first:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2011/09/2...date-no-rollback-needed-for-mango-beta-users/
pjfan75 said:
Looks like there may be an official way to install the final Mango without rolling back to NoDo first:
http://www.wp7connect.com/2011/09/2...date-no-rollback-needed-for-mango-beta-users/
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yep, another piece on it
http://www.wpcentral.com/more-mango-friends-and-family-pre-cleanup?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
Bummer... wish I had known about this "Friends n Family" update last week before I restored Nodo. (Stupid rumors!!!) It's like a totally different phone. Here's hoping the update is coming soon.
That's awesome! That looked like such a pain that I was probably going to stay on the beta lol.
Awesome, I'll make a thread with precise steps so people may see it and finally get our DVP's fixed and updated!
Devious Criminal said:
Awesome, I'll make a thread with precise steps so people may see it and finally get our DVP's fixed and updated!
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And spam your own site as you do? Ugh.
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Any word yet if/when Bell/Virgin will be rolling out 2.2 to Canadian users?
If I don't get it relatively soon I'll probably root. Is that more difficult to do with the Bell build?
Any suggestions from rooted Bell users?
No word yet. Canadian carriers suck at issuing updates in a timely fashion. I rooted my Legend over the summer and installed the Vodafone 2.2 build recently with no problems. For the root, you'll need to downgrade to the 1.31 RUU before you can successfully root.
Hi,
I wrote to Virgin Mobile support on November 30 and I got the following answer:
Hi there - HTC is currently working on this update and we're hoping to have it within the next couple months. We'll keep you guys up-to-date online. Stay tuned!
Lots of Love,
Virgin Mobile
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And before that I wrote to Bell support and never got answered.
Personnaly, I found that «next couple months» is very long!
MikaelG said:
And before that I wrote to Bell support and never got answered.
Personnaly, I found that «next couple months» is very long!
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Bell never answer questions I email them, HTC Legend related or not.
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I made a thread about this over at howardforums. somebody responded saying Virgin is working on it and they expect it to be out in January, and if there are any delays, early February.
I got tired of waiting for Virgin to come out with Froyo, so I rooted and flashed Cyanogen on my Legend and couldn't be happier. There is a bug with voicemail notifications, but I'm sure that will be fixed soon.
When (and IF) Virgin has an update, I'll do it on my wifes phone, but the added features that Cyanogen gives is well worth it.
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I made a thread about this over at howardforums. somebody responded saying Virgin is working on it and they expect it to be out in January, and if there are any delays, early February.
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That's pretty brutal. I love my Legend, but I really regret buying it from Bell. I've had nothing but bad experiences with them.
Which rooting guide has the most success with the Legend?
I'm fairly new to this, so I'll have to do my homework before attempting a root.
Maybe a good December project.
i work for virgin mobile and own the legend myself.
I ask my DM, and manger almost weekly about the update only to hear that they have no idea.
I call technical support (store line/regular line) and no one there knows either.
I also check our daily updates.. daily. Only to find nothing about the legend day after day.
I've been holding my breath for the update, but i don't suggest you do the same.
Unbrand your phone by installing the WWE version and you will probably get the update faster than Bell or Telus.
Hopefully it's coming Monday.
--io
The update is likely only days away so i suppose it's a funny time to ask about debranding.
My main issue is that I don't know what rom to use from the shipped roms website... a little bit of a text explanation would be great.
I still don't know what RUU means... or what WWE is... and i've been actively doing some reading on the subject.
Any advice would be appreciated!
Thanks!
go to the wiki!!!! everything is there!!!!
Haha, that post was actually quite useful
RUU = Rom update utility
WWE = World Wide English
So all I have to do is pick the most recent WWE version and I'm good to go?
I got annoyed with the flip-flopping and waited until after the halfway mark in the month. I've rooted my phone and it works perfectly.
I found that Blayo's ROM to run extremely well on the Legend.
Sorry for bumping it again ( I've been monitoring this thread and everytime i see it bumped up, it gives me hope... but only to find out we are all asking the same thing ... WHEN?!!)
Since BELL discontinued the Legend, does this mean when (if?) Virgin releases the OTA update, BELL users like me will get the same VIRGIN update as well show up on our phone?
The post about updating it with the WWE version... if i understand it correctly, the steps are:
1. Create a gold card... i saw a thread about a manual (albeit complicated for the non-techno geek.. ) way and an automated way using a software someone wrote
2. Run the latest WWE that has been posted (this is supposed to debrand our phone so that we can "see" the SOftware Update for WWE, right)
3. Check the Software Update on the phone and i should see the Fryoyo Update. ( I assume if we apply update, the ROM Update (data) it will download on the phone will be billable...or count as your data usage)
Does this sound about right?
I'm keeping this update via WWE as my last option if the OTA does not see the light of day...for us BELL users..
At this point, i'd say it's 70/30 that bell does not get the update. Just because as you've said, it's a discontinued phone for bell. with a small install base.
Hopefully Virgin/Bell decide to push it to bell sets. I'm not sure if they'd have to prepare two versions for that though. From what i understand, we're only a few days away from finding out.
It's funny, Bell Discontinued the Legend because they couldn't keep them in stock due to HTC having a lack of stock because the Amoled screen wasn't being produced fast enough. hence why they switch to a different screen for the Legend. Most people think it was just old or selling poorly when in fact those are both false.
QkSi1ver said:
Sorry for bumping it again ( I've been monitoring this thread and everytime i see it bumped up, it gives me hope... but only to find out we are all asking the same thing ... WHEN?!!)
Since BELL discontinued the Legend, does this mean when (if?) Virgin releases the OTA update, BELL users like me will get the same VIRGIN update as well show up on our phone?
The post about updating it with the WWE version... if i understand it correctly, the steps are:
1. Create a gold card... i saw a thread about a manual (albeit complicated for the non-techno geek.. ) way and an automated way using a software someone wrote
2. Run the latest WWE that has been posted (this is supposed to debrand our phone so that we can "see" the SOftware Update for WWE, right)
3. Check the Software Update on the phone and i should see the Fryoyo Update. ( I assume if we apply update, the ROM Update (data) it will download on the phone will be billable...or count as your data usage)
Does this sound about right?
I'm keeping this update via WWE as my last option if the OTA does not see the light of day...for us BELL users..
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There was noise about an update in Mid-Jan from Virgin, Bell as far as I remember has discontinued support and it's unlikely that there's going to be an update. You won't get the OTA update unless Bell releases it. I'm rather dissapointed with the promises that keep being broken for our rather expensive service... Root your 'phone.
The procedure is :
Create a Goldcard. As you mentioned there's very easy to follow guides out there.
Downgrade your phone to an earlier version of the software. This permits rooting your phone.
Root your phone. This will allow you to install a ROM other than the Carrier's ROM.
Install either a stock ROM (WWE) or a custom ROM.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I am using Blayo's ROM, which is almost identical to the stock FroYo ROM, but with a few tweaks that just make the phone feel nicer. I would reccomend looking into some of the other ROMs as well. You may find something you like. Android's about choice and this is one great advantage of rooting your 'phone.
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There was noise about an update in Mid-Jan from Virgin, Bell as far as I remember has discontinued support and it's unlikely that there's going to be an update. You won't get the OTA update unless Bell releases it. I'm rather dissapointed with the promises that keep being broken for our rather expensive service... Root your 'phone.
The procedure is :
Create a Goldcard. As you mentioned there's very easy to follow guides out there.
Downgrade your phone to an earlier version of the software. This permits rooting your phone.
Root your phone. This will allow you to install a ROM other than the Carrier's ROM.
Install either a stock ROM (WWE) or a custom ROM.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I am using Blayo's ROM, which is almost identical to the stock FroYo ROM, but with a few tweaks that just make the phone feel nicer. I would reccomend looking into some of the other ROMs as well. You may find something you like. Android's about choice and this is one great advantage of rooting your 'phone.
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I'm gonna give it up to the end of Jan and if there are no updates, i'll definitely go this way... im out of space to install anything else... angry birds and talking tom are taking so much space... had to remove my talking tom to install some smaller apps.
On Facebook, the guy from Virgin told that they had problems with the update so they are doing more testing...
If you want to be up to date, I really suggest you to root your phone and try a rom. You won't lose any functions on your phone and you'll never have to wait again.
mike998 said:
There was noise about an update in Mid-Jan from Virgin, Bell as far as I remember has discontinued support and it's unlikely that there's going to be an update. You won't get the OTA update unless Bell releases it. I'm rather dissapointed with the promises that keep being broken for our rather expensive service... Root your 'phone.
The procedure is :
Create a Goldcard. As you mentioned there's very easy to follow guides out there.
Downgrade your phone to an earlier version of the software. This permits rooting your phone.
Root your phone. This will allow you to install a ROM other than the Carrier's ROM.
Install either a stock ROM (WWE) or a custom ROM.
As I mentioned in my previous post, I am using Blayo's ROM, which is almost identical to the stock FroYo ROM, but with a few tweaks that just make the phone feel nicer. I would reccomend looking into some of the other ROMs as well. You may find something you like. Android's about choice and this is one great advantage of rooting your 'phone.
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Hello there, i'm new to this flashing ROM, rooting and stuff...
In your post, it sounds easy, create a golden-SD (follow the guides), downgrade and update the WWE...
i got lost on the second step... how do you downgrade the phone? I have a VM legend 2.1 w/ update 1 and seems like VM is not giving out the update. I'm thinking going your way but don't know how to downgrade the phone.
Please advise.
Thanks in advance.
So Im fixing this post to make it more clear for everyone and to help out the few who need it. If you are a Unlocked or Tmobile DVP user had updated your phone to Mango and didnt back up you NoDo back up, so you werent able to get the .212 FW fix. This is for you.
So if you are running Mango 7713 or 7714 that was released it removed you from the main update stream and you werent able to get any updates rolled out. However, there has now been a new Mango verison released which is the RTM 7720 build, meaning it will put you back in the main update stream and you will be able to get all future updates. Go to the Windows Phone 7 forum here and follow the instrustions on how to update you phone to that build. When done you zune software will tell you there is another update for your phone which is the .212 FW update. This is really safe and hard to mess up, and you can always restore to where you are no if you mess up. Just after you do your updates this time make sure you back up you back ups! If you have any questions feel free to ask!
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So If you update to 7720 (the leaked RTM copy of mango found in the windows fourms) It will allow you to update to .212 after even if you lost your other backups. Because 7720 is back in the main update stream you can get it!
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the major question is post 7720 f/w updating that concerns me
What's concerning about it? Its the RTM build its safe and stable. Its the exact same version the next next line of windows phones will be released with.
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What's concerning about it? Its the RTM build its safe and stable. Its the exact same version the next next line of windows phones will be released with.
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whether users will get the oem update not on nodo not the os update...because it seems like microsoft and OEMs are bundling the mango firmware and mango os together. We have the OS not the firmware
I've held off on mango altogether until i get the at&t .212fw just because i didnt want to have to revert. But if this is the case (can get mango, then get update) i just may bite the bullet and get rolling. Although...dell said mid august for at&t, so close...yet so far.
They are not putting the two updates together. they are still two seprate ones. and because 7720 in back in the main update stream you dont have to worry about missin out on any updates.
New Bada 2.0 roms and a Mango release this week.
This is what they said 3 hours ago. Maybe it is i8700xxki1..what do you think about it?
If so, really thanks to Samfirmware
Can you post a link or a screenshot to where you found this info? I'm watching samfirmware posts on twitter and saw nothing about a new windows phone firmware release. Thanks
Its on facebook
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After the bashing session topic below, it would say much about their character if they do.
Can't wait for no more. Very eager. Hope hidden wifi issue will be solved in the next generation....
It might be official version which will be provided by Samsung... via Zune.
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It might be official version which will be provided by Samsung... via Zune.
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yeah, rumours are that it will be out oh thursday
According to me it is KI1 and it has new radio/firm/boot as kh2 with the "only" difference it has official Mango and no brand. Really hope so. Thanks again SamFirmware
EDIT : i can see no more the post on facebook. Can you? I think they cleaned it
Edit 2: Official answer by SamFirmware "Moderator post to fast something. Communication problem. That why we removed. Sorry." No ROMs coming this week. Thread can be closed.
ilboy said:
According to me it is KI1 and it has new radio/firm/boot as kh2 with the "only" difference it has official Mango and no brand. Really hope so. Thanks again SamFirmware
EDIT : i can see no more the post on facebook. Can you? I think they cleaned it
Edit 2: Official answer by SamFirmware "Moderator post to fast something. Communication problem. That why we removed. Sorry." No ROMs coming this week. Thread can be closed.
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Communication problem? Maybe some English lessons would help them cause I can't make any sense of what they said there.
so, we will see!
Their English is not one of the best, but please try to understand. English is difficult for everyone who comes from all the countries except for uk/us/australia etc...i understood everything they said so we don't need to insult them.
Anyway the final mango ROM is coming in 2 days via zune. Why not just wait for it?
That is not a rom. First of all a rom contains new firmware/radio and bootloader, the "thing" that should come in 2 days is an "update", Mango 7720.68. Secondly Samsung said one month ago that before Mango update they would have released a firmware update to let us receive Mango. Before that we won't be able to get Mango, so I think we will have to wait for long time yet..
just think a second, all the people that don't know this forum and are not able to flash the phone how do they could update, the official mango release for everyone and every brand of cell phone will come through Zune
brands like samsung...htc...they have the rtm and customize it for their phones then they send it back to ms and will be released through Zune
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That is not a rom. First of all a rom contains new firmware/radio and bootloader, the "thing" that should come in 2 days is an "update", Mango 7720.68. Secondly Samsung said one month ago that before Mango update they would have released a firmware update to let us receive Mango. Before that we won't be able to get Mango, so I think we will have to wait for long time yet..
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Radio and bootloader ARE updated through imageupdate, check package MODEM - it contains both radio and bootloader.
One would assume that they would make one big update containing all of this stuff - Omnia 7 can receive Mango update, we already tried it with the XXKH2 ROM's .pks that was with it. Update through beta to RTM and deploy that PKS to install the OEM part of the upgrade. Worked fine.
So you are saying that omnia 7 will have Mango even without drivers update right? I have KC1 now i hope this is enough to get Mango
it's good to see someone from samfirmware here.
I would like to ask one question regarding samfirmware website.
Why is there no direct way to find windows phone roms?
When you go to toolbox section, and firmwares, there you can only choose bada, symbian, windows mobile, but no windows phone.
Where do you guys put all the latest wp7 roms?
Windows Mobile is the same section als Windows phone 7
15.09. and no mango ?
It drives crazy.... Where would our mango be??????
zune just say your phone is up to date,any solutions ?
I don't understand what your means.
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zune just say your phone is up to date,any solutions ?
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Coming from build 7712 it looks like you might need 2 updates to get to the latest mango build.
http://www.ginktage.com/2011/09/how-to-update-your-windows-phone-7-to-7-5-mango-rtm/
Also, the official mango release might not be avaliable for everyone, but there are ways around this...http://wmpoweruser.com/simple-trick-to-force-the-mango-update/
I don't know if either of these things will help, as I started from a clean install and updated (eventually) to mango, with no problems.
It might be helpful if you put what else you've tried and, I don't want to moan, but shouldn't this thread be in Q&A?
Sup people,
What is the latest version of the OS out there for the DVP?
7.xx.xxxx?
Right now I have 7.10.7720.
To beat a dead horse, these things can't be updated right? No one has figured out how to do it?
7.10.8773.98 is the latest update
The current version for DVP is 7.10.8773.98. The updates have been released by Dell and Microsoft long back, but telecom companies like TMO and ATT have been holding back the updates. There have been many instances of users angry posts on various forums including microsoft answers and latest I read a couple of days back is that Windows 7.8 will be directly sent by MS to phones bypassing the operators, so I think as Windows 7.8 release date seems some time OCT-DEC 2012, its best to wait for the update as all phones would definitely be getting the 7.8 bypassing the operators.
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Sup people,
What is the latest version of the OS out there for the DVP?
7.xx.xxxx?
Right now I have 7.10.7720.
To beat a dead horse, these things can't be updated right? No one has figured out how to do it?
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How do I get it to update to 8773?
KnightmareCS said:
Sup people,
What is the latest version of the OS out there for the DVP?
7.xx.xxxx?
Right now I have 7.10.7720.
To beat a dead horse, these things can't be updated right? No one has figured out how to do it?
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Mine is running 7.10.8773. A few weeks back I had a notification that it had an update and plugged it into zune and it updated. I am on T-Mobile in the US if that helps.
The latest WP7 rom for any device is 8779.
Officially the VP is somewhere between 7720 and 8773 (as in what it will recieve over zune updates/OTA)
There has yet to be a single user that recieved the 8779 update to actually bother getting the urls for it, we only have up to 8773 so officially or unofficially that is the latest version for the VP.
Hopefully when WP7.8 launches we'll get the 8779 urls (as that's how WP updates usually work)
We're on T-Mo US too and haven't recieved any notifications.
My mom's HD7 is on 8107, with both our phones saying "no update found".
Can they be forced?
Assuming you know what languages are already on your device: yes.
The firmware bundle might be a bit of an issue, so you really need to read and plan or you might end up with a brick.
Only the lumias are reliably getting 8779 as it's still carrier/manu dependant what one is officially available.