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Vega / Mobii and MKV

Hi
any news about mkv (h.264) videos whith this tablet?
Hardware is the problem? or android is the problem?
regards

AFAIK, the Vega can't play MKV as this is a limitation of Android (as opposed to the tablet). perhaps in 2.3 / 3.0 we'll see MKV support introduced.

thanks
I can to play mkv with h.264 files, but it's too slow, 4-6 fps only with any players (vital player, meridian, etc)...
saludos

Did you try rockplayer? Have good experiences with it, but haven't tried mkv yet...

You can always use a program like Handbrake to convert it to mp4/h264, which works fine for me.

Remember that MKV is just a container if the base AOSP build of Android suddenly gained the ability to parse Matroska containers it would not magically give you the ability to play High-profile 1080p H.264 video streams, or DTS/AC3 audio that may be contained in the MKV.
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.

SilentMobius said:
Rockplayer and all the ffmpeg-alikes are able to parse the containers but _none_ of them will be able to use the native hardware acceleration and as such will be useless for HD content.
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This is the problem
I use vital player, the best for mobii/vega, because I can view all videos with AC3 without problem (divx or wmv with AC3). MKV with vital player are slow too...
The best codec for mobii/vega 720p? mp4/h264? wmvhd? I have a lot of mkv/h.264/mkv...
regards

Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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this is the big question WHY??!!!

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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I second this. MKV was perfect on the ZT-180's 2.1 rom. Proof that this is not a limitation of android.

hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez

ndroid2k11 said:
hi,
i have installed rockplayer and mVideoPlayer. it seems that they install some codecs because now i can play 720p and partly 1080p MKV videos on my mobii tegra (vega rom + modaco) via the video player that comes with the rom.
greez
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really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
regards

I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.

dopeh said:
I can play the mkv files but just no sound.. running vega rom with modaco.
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you can use vitalplayer, the best for me.

demonknight9 said:
Funny thing is my first tablet the ZT-180 was able to play mkv 720p high profile with DTS beautifully! It stuttered a bit on 1080p, watchable though. This is on a low budget machine, on the vega it should fly! This was in real player for android by the way. Explain that
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Because that tablet its _so_ dodgy that the OEM built in MKV/DTV/AC3 decoding into android (like Samsung/etc) and released it without paying for the licences (for DTS and AC3).
If dolby et al notices then the retailers will get a lawsuit.
Though it does mean that there is Android source floating around China that includes MKV parsing. Latest Gingerbread update add WebM so lest see if that comes with a full matroska parser.

pildo said:
really? witch rom are you using? addons? I can play 720p MKV, bur slowly, at 5-10fps
regards
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Advent Vega 1.09 ROM + MoDaCo r8
when i play the movies with rockplayer or mVideoPlayer it's slow, too. But with the original player it works fine. Don't know why

Hi all
Apologies for the thread revival. There's no need to use any third party apps to play MKV files, you can play MKVs using the built in media player. I use Astro file manager and do the following: navigate to file, long-press on the file itself, select "Open As", select "Video", then choose the default media player. It might be easier to have the app recognise it as standard, but this method works. I've tried quite a few 1080p x264 vids and the only thing the Vega struggles with is the audio codecs - it supports AAC, but AFAIK it doesn't support AC3.
EDIT: I should probably mention that I use the default 1.09 ROM, modded with MCR R8.
The reason that third party apps probably get a low FPS is that they do not use the Tegra2 hardware accelerated decoding - the built in player does however.
The core Android system actually supports the MKV container format - it's listed on the spec page; I guess implementation is obviously different for each device. As someone pointed out though, the important thing is the codec in use for each video/audio stream; MKV is just a container format.

Is there a program which can link file extensions with app s?

I believe that mVideoPlayer literally just makes the mkv format available/viewable/whateverable in the stock player, so if you install it, you should just be able to play mkvs in the stock player (mVideoPlayer does not have any codecs, so it will only be able to play the codecs that your device can already play)

most devices can play H264 mkv, hell my phone can even play them with one player or another, the issue here is decoding, the vega simply cannot decode h264 high profile video hence the slow framerates as the player has to switch to software.
Suggesting this is possible by switching to the stock player is just nonesense, those that claim to have good frame rates are NOT playing h264 high profile, the hardware cant do it, period, end of thread.
Note: most "ripped" MKV films / tv files (1 gig usually for TV rips 6 gig + for films) that can be downloaded in 720p and 1080p will be encoded in high profile, you simply wont ever be able to play these with decent frame rates without re-ecoding into a codec tegra can handle like H264 main profile - unless the open source VLC team manage to create their own CPU optimisations when VLC finally come out, even then it wont be buttery smooth.
give it up people, you are going to have to re-encode or not bother using it as media tablet.

[Q] Best Media Player for TF

Does anyone have any suggestions for a media player for the TF? I would love it if it did the following:
Hides the taskbar - most important
Plays most common codecs - very important
Uses the docking station controls - important
Gesture controls - not too important
I downloaded MoboPlayer and it is great with the exception of not hiding the task bar. QQ Player for some reason is laggy on a 480 DiVX rip I made, but MoboPlayer is silky smooth.

To answer my own questions:
* There is currently no media player that removes the honeycomb taskbar
* I have yet to find a media player that uses the docking station controls other than the default
I guess I'll keep MoboPlayer until something better comes along.

Kilmar said:
To answer my own questions:
* There is currently no media player that removes the honeycomb taskbar
* I have yet to find a media player that uses the docking station controls other than the default
I guess I'll keep MoboPlayer until something better comes along.
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+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway

Pandora KM Player

funnycreature said:
+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway
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My issuw with moboplayer is that it dowsntfollow the system rotation. Ie using the Asus case, sometimes the image is upside down depending on how you place it.
-mark

rooted with you can at least get back the stock hc buttons. the white ones are too harsh and distract me when reading or watching movies. not a perfect solution but better than those frikken bright icons.

I have found moboplayer to be the best one so far. Vplayer advnace following second

does mobo player plays formats like mkv with subtitles in srt extension , avi and original dvd untouched rips?

I can confirm avi - no problems.
Mkv - well, high profile h264 is very slow. I didn't try subtitles.
The quality is somewhat strange, I noticed a strange grid of pixels on the video. I'll check if it's on every one. Also HDMI quality is very poor (looks like 256 colours).

funnycreature said:
+1 on MoboPlayer... It's been updated frequently, it's free and plays everything nicely so far. Latest when the HC source is released devs will be all over it to remove the taskbar! It doesn't bother me that much anyway
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Just download vplayer, haven't tried it. But supposedly it can play divx. Will try when I get home. But been using moboplayer myself

diomark said:
My issuw with moboplayer is that it dowsntfollow the system rotation. Ie using the Asus case, sometimes the image is upside down depending on how you place it.
-mark
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you can change that in the prefs.

madsquabbles said:
you can change that in the prefs.
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sorry, didnt mean to hi-jack the thread topic..but..
i have that auto-rotation issue with market and angry birds. markey opens only in landscape and angry birds in landscape in one direction only.

I'm still rocking rockplayer. It plays everything that I have thrown at it that the tegra can handle. ( so high profile still runs bad etc)

Magnesus said:
I can confirm avi - no problems.
Mkv - well, high profile h264 is very slow. I didn't try subtitles.
The quality is somewhat strange, I noticed a strange grid of pixels on the video. I'll check if it's on every one. Also HDMI quality is very poor (looks like 256 colours).
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what is high profile h264 means, sorry noobie here..
what about flac format audio files?

Tenny said:
I'm still rocking rockplayer. It plays everything that I have thrown at it that the tegra can handle. ( so high profile still runs bad etc)
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I can also confirm that rockplayer handles subtitle SRTs perfectly.

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I can also confirm that rockplayer handles subtitle SRTs perfectly.
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Does anyone know if you can play the subtitles on the hdmi output screen when i have downloaded the .srt seperatly (so not with burnin option from handbrake).
Very anoying that the subtitle plays on the screen of the tablet!

I tried moboplayer and rockplayer at first. And i managed to play MKV's smoothly, but only when started from the gallery. When I open the same mkv directly from moboplayer or rockplayer the movie didn't play smooth at all. So I tried mVideoPlayer. After i installed mVideoPlayer my mkv's play smooth anyway I open them. The best part is that the stockplayer plays MKV's as well after installing mVideoPlayer (but doesn't have support for subtitles).
But the main problem is that most mkv's have 5.1 sound, this is not supported, you can convert the soundtrack with mkvavi2mp4 or convert the whole movie with handbrake (takes a lot longer).

stuttering rubbish
Hi, whats the best settings to use in Handbrake for this device, I have an SGS2 and it plays 720 and 1080 content fine (HW decoding?) but as soon as I stick the same vids on the TF its appalling.. any tips what settings to use I am thinking of sending it back and waiting for something with a decent video player as I am not impressed my phone does a better job..
Found the settings in a differenmt thread, will try

I like Moboplayer but it does not play AVI files correctly, so I ended up installing QQPlayer as well.
QQPlayer does not play the AVI as smooth as Moboplayer but it displays the video in the correct color.
Anybody that knows which player that can play AVI file smoothly, I would appreciate the input. My AVI files are mainly captured from my Canon camera.
I know I can convert it to MP4, but this is not practical when we on the road.

quick question
whats the Best format to use for playing videos on the transformer, at what resolution, and whats a good piece of software to re encode existing movies to this format.
thanks!

[Q] MP4 Playback on Vegacomb 1.7

Hi, I've got some Mp4 video's i've been playing back quite happily on Custom ROM R8 and have today put Vegacomb 1.7 on and these files do not playback. The only way i can get them to play back was to load Moboplayer and use software decode.
Anyone got any ideas or is this a bug in Vegacomb? Tried to post it in the Vegacomb forum but couldn't.
Cheers.

On custom R8 you played them with default media player?
Did you download Moboplayer codecs?

Hi, yeah sorry, on R8 I used the default player. On Beta 1.7 the default player just gives "Fail to load" message.
Even in Moboplayer just selecting the movie gives the message "this file cannot be played by the system player, please long press it, and select soft decoding mode to play it"
As far as codecs go not sure which on i need for the Vega? can anyone advise?
Thanks

I use Vplayer with 2.2 and 2.3. maybe he will run with 3.0
http://de.androlib.com/android.application.abitno-vplayer-qzzzE.aspx

So I ended up going back to MoDaCo R8 and all is well. All movies play with no need for an additional player. I did however load Moboplayer and it plays all files using hardware decode (which did not work on Vegacomb.
Thanks for the replies.

I have the same problem. I don't like to go back, I like the VegaComb. Isn't there anone who can tell how to solve this problem?

[Q] hardware accelerated video

Hi there running vegacomb 3.2 just wondering how to enable hw video playback,can't play 720p videos at all without it being choppy as hell.
I did search first but it was mostly old info and didn't work heh.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Also if anyone knows how to get setcpu working on this build that be great.
Tried using custom text file which it can read but it does not actually apply any settings.

I use dice player to play videos. Give that a try, there's a free trial available on the market

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I use dice player to play videos. Give that a try, there's a free trial available on the market
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Brilliant thanks for that everything is super smooth now.
Shame none of the free ones had compatible hw playback.
Worth the pennies though got portable HD playback now

Did you try MoboPlayer or MX Video Player, those are free and should also support Tegra 2 HW thru their respective plugins?
Plugins for your specific device should auto download thru the market when you first start the player.
Give those two a try and report back.
Of course if you already paid for the full version of DicePlayer then there is no point to test any other player because this should be the best there is (if it's working for you).
I tested the trial on a 720p MOV file and there was no video, only audio.

yani2000 said:
Did you try MoboPlayer or MX Video Player, those are free and should also support Tegra 2 HW thru their respective plugins?
Plugins for your specific device should auto download thru the market when you first start the player.
Give those two a try and report back.
Of course if you already paid for the full version of DicePlayer then there is no point to test any other player because this should be the best there is (if it's working for you).
I tested the trial on a 720p MOV file and there was no video, only audio.
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I tried those before coming here.
No joy : [
Any other suggestions? Got a few days til trial of dice player is up anyways.

Have you tried BSPlayer lite with BSPlayer ARMv7 VFP CPU support?
Look up in the market.
I've been using it and it looks ok.

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Have you tried BSPlayer lite with BSPlayer ARMv7 VFP CPU support?
Look up in the market.
I've been using it and it looks ok.
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Thanks will need to get some hd files to test though.
Unfortunately doesn;t read .mov files : [

All of free media player on market
use Tegra2 optimized SW video decoder.
(except HW mode that use stock player)
but diceplayer use hw video decoder ( not VFP otimized sw decoder ) in Tegra2
at all combinations of containers(avi,mkv,mov...) and audio codecs(aac,ac3,dts,flac,mp3....)

juami said:
All of free media player on market
use Tegra2 optimized SW video decoder.
(except HW mode that use stock player)
but diceplayer use hw video decoder ( not VFP otimized sw decoder ) in Tegra2
at all combinations of containers(avi,mkv,mov...) and audio codecs(aac,ac3,dts,flac,mp3....)
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So at the moment dice player is my only option?
Just making sure as I don't want to buy something if don't need to
Downloaded an MX video player better which improved SW decoding performance ( things play at 15-20 fps) HW still doesn't work though : [
But the dev is looking into how dice player done it so with luck MX player will have HW acceleration with the vega soon.

[Q] iconia video player

Hi
I'm new to this and wanted to ask do you know any videoplayer to use on taboonay 2.2 + an 3.7 kernel. Because I use mx player for now and it's great but every movie I play in HW just lags. And in SW works great. Anyone have this issues also?

macia10 said:
Hi
I'm new to this and wanted to ask do you know any videoplayer to use on taboonay 2.2 + an 3.7 kernel. Because I use mx player for now and it's great but every movie I play in HW just lags. And in SW works great. Anyone have this issues also?
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No problems with MX on my ROM, depends on the video, and how it's encoded though. Most will play on HW encode on mine, but every once in awhile I'll d/l one that forces through SW, but still plays fine, no lag.

I use Taboonay 2.2 and Richardtrip 3.7 and MX Video Player is by far my faviourite video player. I OC to 1.5 GHZ with the interactive governor. MX plays 90% of my files without flaw or lag, playing 100% of SD files or Baseline - profile MP4's (720p, havent tried 1080p). It does however, force the use of software when decoding 720p MKV Files, forcing me to convert them to Baseline or High profile MP4's. When playing those MKV files, there is severe lag and HW Decoding is grayed out. However, using Dice Player, i have managed to play some of those 720p MKV's, but the other features of MX are simply too wonderful for me to make the switch. However, after the damage of my USB port and the inability to use my 16 GB flash drive, i found myself streaming videos from my home computer using Plex, which is hell to set up but is very rewarding! It is remarkable although i still use MX Video Player for when I'm not at home to play files stored locally. Try OC'ing to 1.5 GHZ ONLY if you feel comfortable doing so. Otherwise, check out Dice Player, it has a free 3-day trial app!

Well it does not lag but feels not quite smooth. But on SW it's totally smooth. And those are xvid files:
Video: Xvid 624x352 23.98fps 1012kbps [Video 0]
Audio: MPEG Audio Layer 3 48000Hz stereo 152kbps [Audio 1]