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Situational update: I am now running JPM. GPS problem fixed, but battery life is a complete nightmare: full charge during night, 8 hours later only 30% left (after 2 reboots because the battery dropped suddenly) with only 3G running.
I am using Quick Settings, Titanium, K9 Mail and nothing else. GPS is not on. Wifi is not on. What can I do? Also, phone temperature is rather high compared to 2.1.
Old situation:
Hi everyone!
Firstly thanks for all the info on the i5800, I have read a lot & come to understand everything better.
I am a complete n00b so sorry for any dumb questions. I recently upgraded my i5800 from stock 2.1 to FROYO.XXJPF as I had problems with the files of JPM (no .tar, no idea how to make them .tar) via ODIN. All seems to work well except three (important!) things:
- GPS doesn't fix, even with Octy's both apps & everything else I have tried
- phone temperature is through the roof, feels warm all of the time
- battery life is shortened considerably: full charge yesterday until 9AM, at 10PM is was at 10 percent with 5' calls, bit of browsing, 10' of tinkering with GPS. After reboot I had 30% battery life. I then installed CPU Tuner & still have 30% 12h later. Temperature is also down because of CPU Tuner when the phone is idle but when I start using the phone it heats up quickly again...
GPS is a big thing for me, so too is battery. Anyone any ideas? Typical JPF issues?
Also, when I did the upgrade to JPF, I had an /esf backup, app backup & contacts backup but all the rest was gone afterwards... Is there any way to keep app settings (e.g. email account settings, ...)?
And, is there an alternative to ROM Manager that does work for our phones?
Try out the Custom ROMs...Kyrillos ofc.. the best stable version out there!
if u have problem about this ROM...just PM me...
Sent from GT-15801 Kyrillos 3.0 beta Edition
Hi,
First of all I would advice to install JPM, not JPF. The rar from samfirmware does have a tar inside and it can easily be flashed using ODIN. The link and instructions are on this page:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=778880
Also don't restore any backups after flashing a new firmware, you may be creating version problems restoring files that are meant for another firmware.
If you want to backup your contacts just export them to a .vcf file in the contact app and import them later from the file after flashing.
Finally, do a factory reset and wipe the cache before and after flashing.
So shut down the phone, hold home + vol.up + vol.down, turn on, select factory reset from the recovery menu, then select wipe cache.
Then shutdown the phone, hold home + vol.down, turn on, connect usb to computer. Flash with ODIN.
After flashing do the factory reset again with same method as above and after reboot import contacts from .vcf.
That should give you Froyo without any problems.
Thank you both.
Bakayoyo, I just followed your instructions and am now booting a factory reset/swiped cache JPM. I will report back! Thanks for your detailed & clear instructions, that makes everything a lot easier...
Lastly: I keep having the issues with the JPM download via the XDA-thread. Via the Samfirmware website there is no problem... The download there is just a .rar that unrars to a .tar package.
EDIT: GPS is functioning. Will report back for battery life & temperature. Thanks a million, Bakayoyo!
Ok update time. Battery problem still occurs: full charge tonight and at 60% after 5 hours with only 3G running and nothing else... I had adfree installed, threw that off. Now only Titanium, K9, Quick Settings running. What to do and what is causing this? Phone feels hot too...
EDIT: see first post, now at 30% by doing nothing, only 8 hours after full charge...
It is better if you use task killers. I am using jpm and my battery is fine gives me a whole day even with 3g. Apps running in background consume battery.
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I did some research and found out I probably screwed up with settings in K9 as I had push accounts poll every minute...
I have 3 push accounts that are now only pushing and 1 POP account that is set to poll every 5 minutes. I'll see what this does to battery life, as I did not even get 12 hours of only 3G before it fell out today.
I read a lot of warnings on ATKs on 2.2...
rogue93 said:
It is better if you use task killers. I am using jpm and my battery is fine gives me a whole day even with 3g. Apps running in background consume battery.
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r u sure? i dont think so... if u kill apps running on background, they will reload later again itself. and killing and reloading apps all the time is consuming battery
Well when you use apps like facebook,music players,video players etc. They run in background even when not needed to. For backgrounds services you have task killers which have options of not killung these services. Personally i kill each app and service. Due to this my battery life has been extended by a whole.
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jj_olsen said:
Situational update: I am now running JPM. GPS problem fixed, but battery life is a complete nightmare: full charge during night, 8 hours later only 30% left (after 2 reboots because the battery dropped suddenly) with only 3G running.
I am using Quick Settings, Titanium, K9 Mail and nothing else. GPS is not on. Wifi is not on. What can I do? Also, phone temperature is rather high compared to 2.1.
Old situation:
Hi everyone!
Firstly thanks for all the info on the i5800, I have read a lot & come to understand everything better.
I am a complete n00b so sorry for any dumb questions. I recently upgraded my i5800 from stock 2.1 to FROYO.XXJPF as I had problems with the files of JPM (no .tar, no idea how to make them .tar) via ODIN. All seems to work well except three (important!) things:
- GPS doesn't fix, even with Octy's both apps & everything else I have tried
- phone temperature is through the roof, feels warm all of the time
- battery life is shortened considerably: full charge yesterday until 9AM, at 10PM is was at 10 percent with 5' calls, bit of browsing, 10' of tinkering with GPS. After reboot I had 30% battery life. I then installed CPU Tuner & still have 30% 12h later. Temperature is also down because of CPU Tuner when the phone is idle but when I start using the phone it heats up quickly again...
GPS is a big thing for me, so too is battery. Anyone any ideas? Typical JPF issues?
Also, when I did the upgrade to JPF, I had an /esf backup, app backup & contacts backup but all the rest was gone afterwards... Is there any way to keep app settings (e.g. email account settings, ...)?
And, is there an alternative to ROM Manager that does work for our phones?
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Try InDroid 3.0 . Any version.(There are 4). GPS Perfect! About battery life , User review is enough.
GPS is fine since JPM.
Battery was being eaten by K9, even with correct push settings. I uninstalled it, and went back to standard email app. Result: phone temperature back to normal, battery life back to normal. So all is fine now! Only issue that remains is that incoming calls screw up the battery meter, reboot fixes this (this was already an issue in stock 2.1). Very annoying!
It seems that our beloved Samsung did it again!
Now we can enjoy a fully functional, long waited, Gingerbread 2.3.4.
Although some sources say that it is only a leak, the JVP build seems to behave really well, according to the reports of many users.
Gingerbread 2.3.4 was build in order to fix some Android bugs and make the interface even faster. We have seen that the second task is a success, the user experience and crazy Quadrant scores being the best witnesses. But what about the first task, are there any android bugs in this build? Maybe we could find out together.
The key purpose of this thread is to find out if that Android OS bug, which made Gingerbread users a hard life, is still present.
You can help this investigation by keeping an eye on the battery stats and reporting the consumption (in percents, of course) of the Android OS. It is even better if you can add some screenshots.
Please don't forget to mention:
- The ROM and kernel you are using.
- Some apps or games you are using (known to fire this bug on previous builds).
- Whether you have autorotation on or off (some users reported they had no drain if kept off on 2.3.3 builds).
- What type of usage you applied to the phone (not really necessary, only you are kind enough).
If you have any kind of suggestion regarding some modifications for this thread you are welcomed to post them. It will helps us become more efficient.
Thank you very much for your effort!
EARLY CONCLUSIONS*:
- Battery life is indeed an improvement on JVP 2.3.4
- The Android OS bug is less aggressive. The reports show a maximum consumption of approx. 20%. We can't say for sure if we can talk about a bug anymore. Anyway, the drainage is not so bad, comparing to 2.3.3 versions.
- The Android System consumption is a bit scary (15-20%) especially after a flash. However, it tends to stabilize in time.
- A clean flash, factory resets, avoiding apps restoration with Titanium or similar, reducing consumers when you don't need them always helps. With or without battery draining bugs.
- JVP is a better alternative for previous versions due to improvements for battery life, speed and stability, even if it's a beta release. So you should go for it, it really is an upgrade!
*The statements above are based on reports and poll results collected until now and they may change. I take no responsibility if you will find those informations incorrect or incomplete. Flash JVP at your own risk, you could loose data or brick your phone, although there aren't reports that say that. Follow the instructions and you should be ok!
is this a new craze insted of train spotting or stamp colecting ....battery watching ....most of us have got a life and have better things to do then watch how much a battery uses ...do what i do charge the phone and enjoy these phones do use loads of battery
Updated with 2.3.4 I9000XXJVP,CSC = I9000OXAJVP and kept it on without sim and without even touching but fully charged. The battery life was just for one and half days.
Android OS running at 3%
using Damian's GTO Alpha kernel for JVP and Brotuck's gingerMod ROM.
Autorotation off.
Consistent q scores in the 2600 range, phone running very smoothly and very fast in daily use (internet, twitter, pics, camera, messaging, phone), 130+ apps installed, no issues. Seems a much better base firmware than any of the 2.3.3 variants.
It's a bit early to investigate this stuff.
Wait for Samsung to release 2.3.4 sources and devs to make some stable kernels based on this.
Until this time many stuff can be broken (well, you're free to beta test though ).
batery is much beter in 2.3.4
no since i flash JVP 2days ago!
anukilimanoor said:
Updated with 2.3.4 I9000XXJVP,CSC = I9000OXAJVP and kept it on without sim and without even touching but fully charged. The battery life was just for one and half days.
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Keep in mind that after a reflash the battery life will stabilize after a while.
In my opinion, the cell standby may be the cause. If left without SIM, Airplane mode off, your phone will continue to search for signal and this really drains the battery.
If you can make a test again, check the battery usage and post your conclusion.
Thanks for your contribution!
got-petrol said:
is this a new craze insted of train spotting or stamp colecting ....battery watching ....most of us have got a life and have better things to do then watch how much a battery uses ...do what i do charge the phone and enjoy these phones do use loads of battery
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This kind of activity is normal in community, especially here in XDA.
It will be useful for those kind of people who don't like to experiment in order to find some answers.
We could do like you but, what if we need to charge it again, after 8 hours, without using the phone?
That's why this "new craze" exists, because we want to avoid that kind of problems.
Tatsuya79 said:
It's a bit early to investigate this stuff.
Wait for Samsung to release 2.3.4 sources and devs to make some stable kernels based on this.
Until this time many stuff can be broken (well, you're free to beta test though ).
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You're right but the 2.3.4 concentrates on fixing bugs, so even in beta stage we should see some changes.
Anyway, the thread is intended to test the firmware regarding this problem, so it can become an indicator for people asking weather they will experience this problem of they can enjoy using their phone without even thinking about this.
lgsshedden said:
Android OS running at 3%
using Damian's GTO Alpha kernel for JVP and Brotuck's gingerMod ROM.
Autorotation off.
Consistent q scores in the 2600 range, phone running very smoothly and very fast in daily use (internet, twitter, pics, camera, messaging, phone), 130+ apps installed, no issues. Seems a much better base firmware than any of the 2.3.3 variants.
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Thanks for your feedback, happy user!
I must say that 2.3.4 battery is performing better than 2.3.3 so far.
After 11 hours with gps and auto rotate on, battery still have 30% of juice left.
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Comming from Froyo JPY to stock deodexed JVP, I have noticed a higher battery drain.
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
I'm using stock deodexed rom from ramad, Dark core kernel and screen off animation. that's all I've changed to this rom, no games, and a few apps like titanium backup and atk.
When I tapped on the android system there was a huge list of included packages, I will list them here, maybe one of them (or all together) is causing that huge battery use:
com.samsung.InputEventApp
Service mode
Software update
Google Backup Transport (actually, I turned off google backup, idk why this is here)
Settings Storage
Mobile tracker
Account and Sync Settings
EncryptApp
Task manager
Error
Perso
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
VPN Services
Factory Test
wssyncmlnps
PopupuiReceiver
Preconfig
BluetoothTest
Self Test Mode
WlanTest
Status Bar
Settings
Mobile tracker settings
Android System
DRM content
MTP Application
PhoneSetupWizard
Security Storage
Licence Settings
PhoneUtil
Those are all......
gtluis said:
Comming from Froyo JPY to stock deodexed JVP, I have noticed a higher battery drain.
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
I'm using stock deodexed rom from ramad, Dark core kernel and battery off animation. that's all I've changed to this rom, no games, and a few apps like titanium backup and atk.
When I tapped on the android system there was a huge list of included packages, I will list them here, maybe one of them is causing that huge battery use:
com.samsung.InputEventApp
Service mode
Software update
Google Backup Transport (actually, I turned off google backup, idk why this is here)
Settings Storage
Mobile tracker
Account and Sync Settings
EncryptApp
Task manager
Error
Perso
com.sec.android.app.lcdtest
VPN Services
Factory Test
wssyncmlnps
PopupuiReceiver
Preconfig
BluetoothTest
Self Test Mode
WlanTest
Status Bar
Settings
Mobile tracker settings
Android System
DRM content
MTP Application
PhoneSetupWizard
Security Storage
Licence Settings
PhoneUtil
Those are all......
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It seems that you have a normal consumption on Android System. Also that app list is present on every ROM which has all system apps. On lite ROMs you can get a smaller list, because some of those apps are removed by the chefs.
Maybe your network coverage is not that good
After a flash, the battery needs stabilization, until then it can drain fast. Try to recalibrate it. Please tell me if you need a good guide.
Try a lite ROM. Maybe you will experience a good Android System consumption.
Thanks for the feedback!
Look at the poll results so far 72% say they have no battery issue, so it must be the apps on your phone that are at fault for any unusual battery drain.
Look at your own apps first before you blame the rom, mostly it's not the rom that's at fault.
gtluis said:
I lost 13% overnight, I had 21% battery use on cell standby (6hours of use). and I noticed something very strange, android system has a 18% battery use with only 5 minutes running, WTF???
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When you're not really using your phone, Android System will have a higher battery use percentage, because nothing else is using battery.
Long periods of idle, you will see higher Cell Stanby and Android System percentages.
The more you use the phone, those percentages will lower.
mammenj said:
I must say that 2.3.4 battery is performing better than 2.3.3 so far.
After 11 hours with gps and auto rotate on, battery still have 30% of juice left.
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Good job! Enjoy your phone!
turn off data connection or wifi when youre not using them
and it will least even longer...
This is what i had with the previous JVO (2.3.3) and not using any task killer anymore. I moderately used the phone, made some calls, wrote some SMS, had blutooth on in the car, listening mp3. Ah, and i set display brightness to "auto" always, i don't use the manual setting with lowest brightness value anymore.
But i also can get the battery down in less than a day...
I'll give the new 2.3.4 a try.
It's funny to see that there is always somebody who needs to torture the board with reinventing the battery wheel. Strange battery behavior usually shows up (and is often dependent on them) in threads with special roms or kernels. The only thing this thread will brings us is more of the same on how to save juice if you don't want to fork for a larger/extra battery.
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
Flash a Custom Kernel based on 2.6.35.14 (2 are available). This solves the problem.
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
abirsharda said:
thanx for the suggestion.
But i'd rather keep the stock firmware, for now, as this is my first android..don't wanna risk a brick.
From other threads i've read, there's a newer firmware 2.3.6 available for the germany galaxy notes. Any idea if it fixes this bug...its really annoying..i've already done factory resets thinking it may fix it .
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It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
abirsharda said:
My galaxy note is constantly displaying Android OS use between 50-70%.
Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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budalica said:
I bought my note in st Louis USA . It had european charger and strange language that I don't recognize . it came as KJ4 build . So I don't know from what european country my note came but I downloaded and flashed Hong Kong rom 2.3.6 and its pretty good with battery , wifi , etc . I am just really disappointed with camera . My battery usage for android OS = 8% and Android system 7% . This link might help you . http://leemn.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/rooting-and-installing-cwm-for-the-samsung-galaxy-note/
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thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
kramdens said:
It definitely fixes it on the German Note... at least mine
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So you got the update through Kies or OTA?
ookba said:
I had/have the same issue. I flashed the latest KKA ROM which flahes the KK5 modem. I deodexed it and turned off some unwanted system apps. Running the CF-Root KKA kernel and Android OS spikes to about 30-40% at times. I don't think it really has much affect on battery life. From what I understand and have read, it has to do with wifi Scanning repeatedly. You can adjust your wifi sleep policy to help this.
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How do you adjust the sleep policy exactly, rooting ?
ChodTheWacko said:
If it's keeping your phone 'awake' then you should install BetterBatteryStats which monitors Wakelocks. It'll tell you what OS services are going nuts.
It's happened to me a few times with rogue programs and USB host going crazy when I don't unmount correctly.
- Frank
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So how did you fix the rouge programs and the USB host ?
lipsin said:
Same thing happening to me? Do you experience heavier drain on wifi than 3g?
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Yup...weird that wifi uses more battery than 3g..should be other way round..
abirsharda said:
thanx but for now i don't wanna flash a custom rom.
OK than follow THIS guide to install official 2.3.6 . I did and than I rooted with superoneclick with zergrush exploit
http://jjpda.blogspot.com/2011/11/n7000-how-to-flash-n7000zskk1-236.html
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Any misbehaving program either got their settings adjusted (stuff like sync frequency) or uninstalled. The USB host issue was, I think, because I unplugged the USB host cable without unmounting first. I just rebooted my phone in that case.
Well after countless number of hard resets....Android OS use in now around 11 %...
the difference i think was because of some apps....i'm not really sure...but this time i didn't install skype, winamp and viber...cuz every time i installed em...Android OS would be like upto 90%...
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
Suzook1 said:
I currently have 2.6.35.7 with the KK1
would it be safe to update to the 2.6.35.14?
high OS battery is my only real problem.
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I have the same kernel but with kk3....dunno if 2.6.35.14 will help with Android OS battery usage...my note still has no update available....
The only thing i can suggest for now its most definitely an app you installed which is causing high android OS usage...read my previous post....i hard reset my note installed all apps i had before but not winamp, skype and viber....i've kinda narrowed it down to these 3 after many hard-resets...
When i had them installed....my phone lost about 2% battery per hour on standby....But now it loses 1-2% in 8 hours on standby...
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
Adam_S said:
I'm having the same this with the high OS battery drain and have skype installed. Going to remove it and see if I get the same result. I didn't have the other two.
I've got the 2.3.6 KKA firmware installed but the drain just suddenly started one time (not when I installed it). I figured it can't have been the firmware itself, but much more likely an application I had installed or had updated.
Doesn't ICS have a better breakdown of service usage etc? Should be perfect if they have done this. Just have to wait and wait and wait for the ICS version.
Surely there is an app out there that can tell you what in the "Android OS" is causing the problem?
As an indication of how bad mine is at the moment, I was 100% at 9am this morning, 11:30am now and its down to 84%.. That's really awful!
I want to reset the battery stats as it could simply be that, but don't have CWM installed on this firmware. I'm rooted though.
[update] I've removed the battery stats file and restarted to see if that will help too.
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Yea...let us know if removing skype helps....
oh and i installed Asphalt 6 from the samsung apps store.....its not available in the market....i had also installed it before hard resetting my note.......and guess what....high Android OS usage again.....damn....removed it....and i think its back to normal....but still have to see if removing fixes it for sure......
I guess the battery manager will count power used by all hidden processes and services as Android OS...
I had exactly the same experience with Asphalt 6 too. Good game, but why it sucked so much power when not even in use, hell knows!
Skype not made a big difference that I could tell, but resetting the battery stats made an immediate difference. 2 hours since charged and only down to 98%. Usually it would be 90-92% by now.
How do you reset battery stats
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Same Boat
Hii,
Following are my stats
Android OS at 35% (Awake Time 1 hr 36 mins)
Display at 25% (on for 3 hrs @ 12% brightness)
Voice Calls at 13% (34 mins)
I don't know if the Android OS is a bit of a drain. Feels so. I think the Wifi Sharing and Wifi always remain on. So does Social Hub - use it to sync FB pictures to contacts as Social Hub offers great quality pictures unlike FB app or Friendcaster.
I do have Skype installed, but its never been initialised, never logged into.
I use GO Launcher, with 9 home screens. TouchWiz has been rendered empty (no widgets, short-cuts whatsoever running there)
I do use APW widget pack - Twitter & FB updates at 3 hours. GReader (with Google Reader syncing every hour). 2 Contacts widgets.
In addition to it, I also have the PowerAmp 4x2 music widget. Homescreen has Simple Calender widget, A "Make youw own clock" widget, a 1x1 Beautiful Widget Weather.
Dunno if the widgets are causing the drain or not.
Like you remarked, my battery drain ATM is around 1-1.5% per hour, with Wifi On and everything running and syncing (as above)
The standby time has been pretty decent. Whereas I am happy with charging everyday, if I could reduce the AndroidOS overload, I cud brighten up my screen a bit more
Dunno wat to do now. I don't wanna root now or try any techy stunts. The phone is only 2 days old yet.
Wud appreciate if anyone can guide me around. I will try to FORCE STOP the Wifi Sharing and Wifi Sharing manager, along with Social Hub, and EMail apps/services tomorrow.
Wud be amazing to lose 2% over 8 hours on standby. Awesome.
Screenshot of battery app is at twitpic.com / 7m4b7y
Running Android 2.3.5
Kernel [email protected]#2
Build GINGERBREAD.XXKK3
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
zipn said:
Hey guys, I have tryed to find same issue, but i dont seem to find anything that is exactly the same on this forum, yet i see it everywhere on the web/google.
I have a problem with my new 2weeks old note 3! It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
I wanted to post some links to my dropbox with screenshots of betterbatterystats and gsam battery, but cant right now because im new, so first up ill see if anyone have any idea without further explanation!
Im rdy to do allmost anything, but i have no idea how kernel and stuff like that can be fixed... :S
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Try Wakelock detector from Google play
jaythenut said:
Try Wakelock detector from Google play
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Wow that looks much better than betterbatterystats, atleast easyer to understand! seems its samsung push and exchange mail that is the top users.. Could they both go under the category as a android kernel?
if you don't use exchange corporate mail you can freeze both apks. I use touchdown app for my corporate email, so those apps are also freezed.
I use the build in calendar, and its synced with my work calendar, so i use "Microsoft exchange activesync" to keep it updated. Could that really be the killer? according to gsam battery monitor my exchange "mail" is only 0.6% battery use while Kernel (Android OS) is 28.2% then its Android-System and then rest is below 2%..
Gonna share some screenshots when its gonna be available for me! This is really annoying me, knowing the phone can easly function and have battery for 2days+ the way i use it!
zipn said:
It have problems maintaining a prober battery drain and its really pissing me off. I have to restart my phone everyday, its like its slowly building up overtime or overnight... mby even after i recharge it?
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When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
congusto said:
When I have a battery drain the first thing I do is give the phone a soft reset. Switch your phone off, take the battery out for a minute, reinsert the battery, do a cache wipe (start up in recovery mode by press and hold VolumeUp-, Home- and On/Off-buttons at the same time, and choose "Wipe cache partition"), then reboot.
Usually that solves the problem. If not, then I will start investigating what is causing wake locks etc.
If everything fails, than I do a factory reset.
To my feeling, people in general tend to do the investigation too soon, leading to nothing and forget to do the soft reset first (which doesn't delete any settings, apps or data, so there's no reason not to try it).
I had an unexplainable battery drain two weeks ago, solved by a soft reset as described, perfect battery since.
In location services (in Google Maps) I've switched off Location History and Location Reporting, which are known battery drainers, but that's pretty much all I do to prevent battery drain. I did notice that Nova launcher takes more battery than the stock launcher, but not enough to skip using it (at least not for that reason).
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Even though it don't delete any settings etc. it still helps for some time. but my mobile is as close to stock as it can be, I hardly use anything that could cause this, except if its from android itself/samsung installations. Which it seems to be!
How often do you have to do such a painful reset? in my eyes, thats something you have to do, if its Broken!
Starting to belive its exchange, mail_service.
That specific one have 92x wakes in 2hours and all most 2mins used. I Think thats what keeps my phone from having deep sleep going. but its weird cause I only have it syncing calendar, which also show as a specific thing under the "mail_service" and it have like x2 wakes and less than 2sec used...
Apparently this bug is not new! Come on google!
I have read some people having kernel problems. .. and they have fixed it with changing kernel..
Do anyone know a good kernel for note3 ?
Speeking of the devil: today my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
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Heres some of the pictures from working and not working!
When working:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vtvrrde5fp1d0fn/5C5mnacZvm
When being a ****ing pain in the ass- After first 2 hours:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lqqcnr8ypy7fvjn/iVfE9n0bP_
2hours later on same charge:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3cpaq079rhsn1ng/FuB8_HFr4Z
Pay attention to the deep sleep, no increase in 2hours...
I really like touchwiz, but I HATE that I am forced to have bad battery because of some retarded fault in kernel!!!
Just to make a thing clear though, I am not looking for battery saving tips etc. that would ruin the point of having a smartphone, its all those cool features that makes it worth buying. But knowing it can work WITH all these features and Not drain the battery, makes me crazy mad(I am at the point of returning it as being "defect")! It just destroys my experience of having it when I know something is not right. And it wasnt exactly cheap..
Anyone know anything about this?? Do the Screenshots help anyone? I am so close to the decission of rooting and then change kernel and rom this weekend if I dont find out why my phone is using this amount of power, When I know it dont have to!!
I've the same issue too on my completely stock set! Can't figure out what exactly is the culprit though ...
congusto said:
Speeking of the devil: todsuper attention to What I install So i know When it .ay my Note3 wouldn't go into deep sleep again. Solved it by again by a soft reset, but start to wonder what triggers it. In my case I suspect the Tomtom app that I used yesterday, which gives me other problems as well every now and then (e.g. when the phone goes into stand by while Tomtom is running in the background).
I guess doing a soft reset on a regular basis is something I should do to keep my phone happy. In that, smart phones are not that different from PC's, which tend to show instability after a while as well if you don't restart them regularly.
But I do agree: in a perfect world it should not be necessary.
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I just got totally fed up with it, so i did a factory reset and done minimal account bindings. So far it's working! So now I will just pay super attention to What I install. So i know When it goes wrong!
having similar issues recently..
and I can't detect what's wrong with BBS either :/
I am also having the same issue with my Note 3. Always the same thing. Works OK for some time after a soft reset and then starts not deep sleeping properly. When viewing at Battery usage it usually shoes "Media" or "Android OS" or "IndexerServices" as the number one.
I am happy with my Note 3 but it is really annoying knowing that your battery is being wasted without real usage.
Have someone contacted samsung or google about this?
Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
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Nice knowing I'm not the only the one with this Android OS causing battery drain when phone is idling.
Not nice knowing there isn't a solution yet.
Lets keep this going, I am going to contact google about this when i figure out what it is, for now im just being super observing! I did a factory+cache reset this friday and now sunday evening its still working(didnt even charge it all weekend!!!)(https://www.dropbox.com/s/khjosuw9t207paf/Screenshot_2013-12-01-19-35-23.png) I havnt synced it with much yet, but I have a little bee buzzing in my ear, telling me that its very likely something with the samsung_push service/email. So atm I have NOT added any email to the phone. Going to charge it up over night, use it normally all day tomorrow AND- if it still works, ill then at evening add my work email and then do this kinda step by step and check when it ****s up. Cause who am I kidding, if I just contact google/samsung now, they wouldnt care ****.
any updates on this mystery?
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
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and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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Stevica Smederevac said:
Little more details about rom,kernel but wifi is destroying your battery,that is for sure. It's waking the phone thousands of time as you can see yourself
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yea i noticed that i read about something related to wifi driver issue idk
thx for reply tho and for my device it's stock D800y20 rom just rooted and even with stock recovery if it matter
This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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This has started for me today also! Not sure what is causing it but I was fine prior to today. Maybe its a google Play services update?
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idk but last google play service update was 10 days ago here !!
ADM!RAL said:
hi guys first of all i apologize for this post not having detailed info such as ss from BBS,GSAM and WLD and will post them later !!
and as always i guess with most battery related problems it happened suddenly and i really mean suddenly the day before yesterday everything was perfectly fine and i didn't have that ridiculous battery drain !!
i woke up yesterday only to find out that Android OS is taking more than 50% of battery usage with a drain like 20% over night
restarted many times and by the end of the day i installed GSAM and WLD (wakelock detector)
froze most of apps including the ones i installed recently but i didn't install that battery hog apps (nothing unusual) and also they didn't appear in partial wakelocks section of BBS
btw i don't use any fake battery extender tools or memory boosters it's just Greenify
i observed that sometimes when i unlock my device (i use knock code btw if that matter!!) wifi gets disconnected and reconnect again (wifi icon disappear and re-appear again in 3 secs or so)
i'll upload ss in a couple of mins
thank you
Edit: SS Added
and notice how it drained 5% in just 40 mins (20 mins SOT) !!!
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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Hello,
I have at 80% the same problem, I loose 7-10% of battery per hours, without SIM, wifi, bluetooth...
I already tried most of all roms, kernel, try all cpu governor.
If you want to see my topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/help/lg-g2-d802-battery-draining-5-0-2-t3256313/
If you are ready to dismantlle the phone, do it, and see if there is a problem inside. I hope you will resolve your problem and tell me if one day you gonna have a better battery
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yea almost identical problem
i did tot reinstall and see how things go !!
sadly nothing changed and wifi still eats huge amount of battery idk how did this happen
well i'll update thread if anything changed
peace out guys
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
stan54 said:
I had the same problem with battery drain(although not as severe) along with huge data consumption when using a significantly modified(i.e. heavy debloat and ota disabled) rooted stock rom. I tried a few customs roms and dorimanx kernel(not at the same time), and even though battery drain wasn't as bad, they were are waaaay to buggy to be used everyday(especially the dorimanx kernel, it's really bad).
Just last week I tot back to KK and ota updated to the latest LP rom(lost root unfortunately). Then I uninstalled/disabled every app I could/needed. Everything is very fast, smooth, and stable again. I now lose 1-2% every 8hrs in standby with syncing and wifi/data enabled, bluetooth and nfc disabled. I regularly get 5-6hrs sot over 48hrs with moderate use and brightness on auto.
I do have a new battery though - my old one( came with my "refurbished" phone from freedompop) gave me 2-3hrs of sot - but that was when I first got it and before I started modifying anything.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
My G2 (vs980) has also been suffering from a sudden battery drain. Android OS and Android System seem to be the problem. They are now second and third on the list of battery usage, after the screen. Before now, they were never that high on the list. I noticed this last weekend, when I kdz to the latest update for the vs980, which is 3AA. After noticing this, I flashed the xceed kernel, then cloudy with dorimanx kernel, and the battery drain continued. I even kdz back to kitkat, still the same, then I flashed AICP 11, and still the same battery drain by Android OS and system. Finally, I restored a backup of stock lollipop 39A but, the issue continued so I turned on airplane mode and it seems to help a bit. I still notice battery life isn't the same as before. The os and system still drain more than usual even on airplane mode.
Kind of glad to hear I'm not the only one with this issue. I don't think I need a new battery, since I bought the phone new in April 2015 from Bestbuy.
Also Gsam, shows the temperature of phone between 80°-90°F, where before it would be in the low to mid 70s. One time, it even got up to 104°F, funny thing is, it doesn't even feel that hot in my hand.
Hopefully, we can find out what's causing this because I really liked the battery life on this phone. Even when people complained about the battery life being worse on 5.0.2, I was pretty happy with it. All my previous phones can't compare to the g2. Now I feel like upgrading though lol.
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How is dorimanx kernel bad? How many user downloads he has,lots and lots then are we thousands of user wrong using a bad kernel, come on . Maybe it didnt work for you. But out of those thousands of users cant be wrong. If it was that bad no one would download. Just saying , you should just say it didnt work for you.
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When I tried the version that was out a month or two ago it wasn't nearly as smooth as stock, even after conservatively messing with the kernel app settings. The worst was that it also cut out tethering and my flashlight when the screen shut off. Maybe the recent updates have fixed some of the issues, but I doubt it. Could be that he doesn't have access to the sprint variant which I have...
Either way, just because 'thousands' of people use it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good - 99.9% of those users have no idea how to code or how a kernel is written. Their knowledge goes as far as following picture guides online - which a 5 years old could do. Just look at the most recent change log - those 'fixes' were to glaringly huge problems that shouldn't have been made in the first place and people were blissfully using it the whole time. Think about how many thousands of other bugs their must be. Not to mention hacking up code made by professionals at huge companies could lead to many other problems. Obliviously the stock kernel has bugs as well, but it works and is fast and stable so I see no need for using a hacked together kernel made by one amateur that doesn't even have my version of the phone to test it on. I wanted it to be good - which Is why I went to the trouble of installing it, but it's definitely NOT.
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Can you tell us what app have you uninstalled and disable ?
What have you debloat ?
Thank you very much
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I uninstalled ALL of the stock apps that can be uninstalled. The ones I disabled are aosp keyboard, app updates, browser, calendar, cloud print, favorite contact widget, google play books, games, movies & tv, newstand, google+, lg voice command speech pack, music, music(the widget - it always runs in the background even without being on the homescreen), notebook, polaris viewer, quicktranslator, swype, talkback, voice command. I would have liked to disable a few more but I'm not rooted so I couldn't.
I use nearly all of the google products like chrome,gmail, calendar, docs, keep, music, photos, news and weather,translate,etc...so having the stock lg ones enabled was redundant. I also only have the bare minimum of installed apps that I need. Nearly all of them are made my major corporations i.e Chase, BofA, ebay, paypal, freedompop, microsoft, swiftkey etc. I have NO games or any small apps that need a ton of permissions. The only small apps are feedly, print hammermill, privacy flashlight(240kb, no ads, no permissions) and bubble level(180kb, no ads, no permissions).
I also go through every settings in every app to make sure it's what I want. And I restart my phone every time I take it off the charger. IMO having a clean and no frills system that is set correctly is the key to performance and battery life.
I just want want to clarify that I average 4-5hrs per 1% in standby since it doesn't seem to hold as well as it gets closer to 0%.
theres this app that have lots of info on battery..
thx guys for adding your experience
i hoped moded kernels would've reduced that amount as they should have necessary drivers for wifi which was somehow got messed up but from your reply i guess i've to look somewhere else
idk how to put this, well this isn't a solution at all i actually didn't start working on it yet just thought to share what i found so far !!
so it's just a reference for any one whose luck was bad enough to have a wakelock like that !
1st of all in most cases neither the device nor it's battery are at fault *you need to understand that*
faulty battery doesn't show up kernel related wakelocks instead they drain without a reason so i hope ppl stop accusing battery in every battery drain thread!
2nd after understanding that you'll have to deal with the environment your phone is used in
to put it simple it's your router and all devices in your current network !! (idk though why not all devices get affected by that or why it just started now, tough luck yea)
those threads may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31975007&postcount=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/getting-rid-wlanrxwake-wakelocks-t2519294
what i'll try to do is add an old access point to my router and connect my phone to it as i don't have a replacement router right now!!
i'll let you know if things were improved !
hey guys
i thought to share what i did so far and before i go on there is a bad news and a good news !!
i would start with the bad news first !
-no rom could solve this issue so you don't really need to format everything and start from scratch especially if you didn't mess around too much and you found it started suddenly like here, i've tried couple of roms including latest CM13 build it wasn't that bad but it didn't solve the drain that much either !!
-now some ppl may see this bad and some may don't care (which means good!!) google services are the ones responsible for this drain
well man you didn't come up with anything new and i see you've got a problem getting straight to the point besides you talk too much
i'm sorry
now you have to sacrifice your google services background sync including "GCM" if you are using any services similar to pushbullet or notification mirroring you'd understand why it's important
anyway if you are good with that you may install and yea it works with latest google play services
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.playfulgeeks.gservicefix
and do as instructions (and believe it'll work if you did steps right)
if you prefer manual way then you'll need "app ops xposed module" and deactivate every "wake up" permission from google services
this guide may help but remember we don't have tools natively in our roms so don't bother downloading "shortcut maker" and go through your settings app to find "privacy guard" or "app ops" we don't have those natively like them
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guide-google-play-services-battery-t2832525
i'll share some ss from stock battery stats
i'm sorry for my long post and i hope it'll help someone with same issue
idk if it solved issue completely but things are stabilized a lot now and i just lost 1% over night not 20% or 30% like before !!
and i'm using lollipop now so i guess it's not that bad for what i heard about bad lollipop battery since it's my first time trying it !!
and btw real SOT should be +40 mins so the real SOT is 2H-47M cuz i restarted my phone to apply that fix and for some reason battery stats doesn't stick between reboots !!
if anyone interested in trying that rom it's for D800 only btw and thx to @Swetnes for his work rom feels pretty stable and solid :good:
link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-g2/development/rom-t3152368/
good luck everyone