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Which ROM (incl. Launcher) are you using?

HI.
Since there are three main roms (like i think) i would like to know, which one you are using including launcher.

stock + home++
The custom ROMS are so tempting. Gets better every day so I'm waiting.

Desire with Sense. Was getting bored of the stock look and home replacements.

Stock/Stock

CM + Home++

stock, stock for me.. Just waiting patiently for the perfect one for my needs!!

i still don´t know, if i should stay with cm or switch to the desire rom. hmm

I don't stay on anyone long enough to say...
As I type, I am on my custom cooked Modaco Desire a10, before that it was Manup's Desire, before that it was CM, and by the end of today I will be on my custom cooked Modaco stock.
If you are wondering what is the best, for me it is a combo.

Stock (but with .32 Kernal), OpenHome/GDE More often OpenHome

thanks for the input.
i think i will stay with CM and stock launcher

The Spirit said:
thanks for the input.
i think i will stay with CM and stock launcher
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lol, why base your choice on other people's opinions? Make up your own mind...
Try out others like Sense and see what YOU like.
And I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people who voted stock haven't tried Sense

optimized CM, auto rotating homescreen launcher, black bar, HTC_IME with transparent patch.
This made my phone friggin sweet.

Voted CM + Stock Launcher, but today I updated to NexTheme's Launcher. I just wish the whole NexTheme would go with Cyan to replace all of the Green. So sick of Green, Green, and more freakin' Green!

I barely prefer stock at this point but the only sense I've tried was on g1 which was painful. But I used it enough to know that I prefer stock regardless of speed although I'd appreciate a better stock music app and better Widgets, when google decided to be largely hands off regarding widgets and just include unimpressive but effective ones, I think (hope ) they anticipated much better contributions by devs on that front. But perhaps in time either 3rd parties will offer impressive music/settings/messaging widgets....or else maybe google will give in an upgrade the stock ones. If the Widgets dont change my vote probably will....

Paul22000 said:
lol, why base your choice on other people's opinions? Make up your own mind...
Try out others like Sense and see what YOU like.
And I'm willing to bet that a lot of those people who voted stock haven't tried Sense
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I've tried Sense. It's just a gimicky UI to me.

Carloswithac said:
I've tried Sense. It's just a gimicky UI to me.
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Honestly, I don't exact see how it is possible to prefer the default Vanilla Android over Sense, I can't exactly see what is more beneficial about Vanilla.
Everything is laid out better, everything is more glossy, everything is just so nice in Sense, and everything just integrates and flows so smoothly - while Vanilla is just plain. What is it that makes people prefer Vanilla more? If you want the eye-candy launcher, just switch to it. If you want the glossy 3D Gallery, install it.
Seriously, what makes things better? I KNOW that there will be someone who can easily tell me, and I'm kinda ready to hear their thoughts ^.~ but I believe most of it will be personal preference.. I would think..

i really do not like the laucher for sense at all. i also just do not like the look or feel of sense at all. i love the clock/weather so i got weather widget donate. i love the keyboard so i got HTC_IME. So the stock UI gives you more options and more control.
plus i prefer the stock launcher. I dont mind hitting the home button then going to dailer one. its much better then having that big ugly bar at the bottom.
Eclair~ said:
Honestly, I don't exact see how it is possible to prefer the default Vanilla Android over Sense, I can't exactly see what is more beneficial about Vanilla.
Everything is laid out better, everything is more glossy, everything is just so nice in Sense, and everything just integrates and flows so smoothly - while Vanilla is just plain. What is it that makes people prefer Vanilla more? If you want the eye-candy launcher, just switch to it. If you want the glossy 3D Gallery, install it.
Seriously, what makes things better? I KNOW that there will be someone who can easily tell me, and I'm kinda ready to hear their thoughts ^.~ but I believe most of it will be personal preference.. I would think..
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Its all in the signature!

How to live with out Sense.. {Making a list and hoping for help}

I for one like Sense, well I am not running a Sense ROM now I do miss a few things. So I wanted to see what people dis like and like about it and well maybe help some of us out. You know, finding way to forget about Sense.
I am running Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 now.
Like:
1: Flash {Cant find a work around}
2: Widgets
a: Peep {There is twitter but I like how dark peep is}
b: Friend Stream
c: Calender {Cant find a replacement }
d: Contact {Contact Widget does a great job as a replacement }
3: The ringer getting low when you pick up the phone {Cant find a work around}
Other than that, I cant say I miss Sense all to much, to tell the truth I am really liking adw launcher.
But if you have anything that helps replace what Sense does give you should add a list and if you are just missing something you should ask here, maybe one of us will be able to help you out.

chaos67731 said:
I for one like Sense, well I am not running a Sense ROM now I do miss a few things. So I wanted to see what people dis like and like about it and well maybe help some of us out. You know, finding way to forget about Sense.
I am running Cyanogenmod 6.0.0 now.
Like:
1: Flash {Cant find a work around}
2: Widgets
a: Peep {There is twitter but I like how dark peep is}
b: Friend Stream
c: Calender {Cant find a replacement }
d: Contact {Contact Widget does a great job as a replacement }
3: The ringer getting low when you pick up the phone {Cant find a work around}
Other than that, I cant say I miss Sense all to much, to tell the truth I am really liking adw launcher.
But if you have anything that helps replace what Sense does give you should add a list and if you are just missing something you should ask here, maybe one of us will be able to help you out.
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LauncherPro... faster, smoother than ADW and has "Sense" widgets. Right now I believe it's just contacts, he is releasing calender and others (if he hasn't already)

DirtyShroomz said:
LauncherPro... faster, smoother than ADW and has "Sense" widgets. Right now I believe it's just contacts, he is releasing calender and others (if he hasn't already)
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Just to add to your comment, he added bookmarks widgets as well

I like AOSP because it is much faster than Sense regardless of what you do to speed it up. I love the look of sense, but after buying a couple of apps and downloading others I can say that I do not miss Sense.
LauncherPro Plus-He is working on Sense like widgets. I now use this instead of Rosie.
Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets- imitates Weather and clock from Sense. You'll have to find a fancy widget download online as they had a C&D order from HTC.
Extended Controls- Allows more options than the power control widget
CalWidget-Calander Widget on your home screen. I think you can change text and background color with this one.
I'm not a social networking freak so I don't care about those, but I know that they will get friendstream working on aosp. And you can still get all the other apps for aosp.
There is a setting somewhere to change the ringer volume on phone movement. I don't have CM6 flashed anymore, but I know its in the settings somehwere

unCoRrUpTeD said:
I like AOSP because it is much faster than Sense regardless of what you do to speed it up. I love the look of sense, but after buying a couple of apps and downloading others I can say that I do not miss Sense.
LauncherPro Plus-He is working on Sense like widgets. I now use this instead of Rosie.
Beautiful Widgets or Fancy Widgets- imitates Weather and clock from Sense. You'll have to find a fancy widget download online as they had a C&D order from HTC.
Extended Controls- Allows more options than the power control widget
CalWidget-Calander Widget on your home screen. I think you can change text and background color with this one.
I'm not a social networking freak so I don't care about those, but I know that they will get friendstream working on aosp. And you can still get all the other apps for aosp.
There is a setting somewhere to change the ringer volume on phone movement. I don't have CM6 flashed anymore, but I know its in the settings somehwere
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Fyi nfinitefx45 just got jit working on a sense rom. I'm using it on my red dawn as I type. I'm getting between 4.4-4.8 on linpack and that's with all the extra crap I've got on my rom.
The days of saying aosp is faster is at an end. I've got no lag. Running smooth and extremely fast plus have sense and all the Widgets that come with it.
Sense will find a way onto froyo eventually and will be just as fast as aosp

It really does seem that AOSP can be just as great as Sense as far as cosmetics. So the only thing left is flash, is there any way to get flash working on ASOP 2.1 or the 2.2 we have now?
Thank you all for the great input!

Papa Smurf151 said:
Fyi nfinitefx45 just got jit working on a sense rom. I'm using it on my red dawn as I type. I'm getting between 4.4-4.8 on linpack and that's with all the extra crap I've got on my rom.
The days of saying aosp is faster is at an end. I've got no lag. Running smooth and extremely fast plus have sense and all the Widgets that come with it.
Sense will find a way onto froyo eventually and will be just as fast as aosp
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What about quadrant?
Some will never give up on Sense. I used to hate AOSP. I didn't like the look and missed all the extra's found in Sense.Right now I keep switching between froyo and Sense. If only someone could get all the sense apps working with AOSP.

Flash will never come to the hero because it's not built for it. I love sense, but i've learned to get by in froyo. The main thing I miss is the nice widgets, but there are some nice replacements in the market. I use digiclock widget and the weather channel. For twitter, seesmic is better than anything and it is fast. Launcher pro will let you customize your bottom row just about any way you want and will let you have 7 home screens like sense. If you have your homescreen laid out just how you like it in sense, then it's not that hard to recreate it in AOSP, unless you use a lot of sense Widgets.
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

sierpinski13 said:
Flash will never come to the hero because it's not built for it.p
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We've had Flash for quite a while now.

Sense just seems like a waste of memory to me. Everything can be duplicated with Market widgets.
I really wish I knew what people saw in it, I hate it with a passion.

The way I see it is, Sense UI does offer things that other phones dont have and HTC has stayed a head of the game a little by giving us all just a little bit extra (flash)
On top of that, how many themes are out there for AWR or Luncher Pro? Well Sense if at heart a big theme, Things are made to go to gather and its simple and dark.
But anyway, How do we get Flash with out Sense?

chaos67731 said:
The way I see it is, Sense UI does offer things that other phones dont have and HTC has stayed a head of the game a little by giving us all just a little bit extra (flash)
On top of that, how many themes are out there for AWR or Luncher Pro? Well Sense if at heart a big theme, Things are made to go to gather and its simple and dark.
But anyway, How do we get Flash with out Sense?
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Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.
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Could you please explain how to get flash 10.1? I'm using nfinitefx45's stock de-odex.

Hey pappa!
Have you tested the new sensebuild /w jit on quadrant? It is a better benchmark than linpack, if for no other reason than it tests more than floating point calculations.

Papa Smurf151 said:
Got flash 10.1 also with sense and jit. Hmmm have any other complaints about sense that r untrue. Ill crush them as well.
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Maybe you did not understand me? I like Sense and would love for a 2.2 Sense RON to come out. But at the same point I can get a lot of the same things done with out it.
And how about this, My Hero will build me a island and then transform in to a plain and fly me there...... If people ask how I will not say anything.
If you have flash and see people have asked why dont you share with us?

chaos67731 said:
Maybe you did not understand me? I like Sense and would love for a 2.2 Sense RON to come out. But at the same point I can get a lot of the same things done with out it.
And how about this, My Hero will build me a island and then transform in to a plain and fly me there...... If people ask how I will not say anything.
If you have flash and see people have asked why dont you share with us?
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nfinitefx45 got flash to work. dl either of my roms or his zenherofx and pull the flashliteplugin.apk. that has the lib in it to allow to have flash 10.1 to work.

i haven't used sense since the day i bought my hero, i always strip it out of the roms. a waste of space & memory IMO.

tejasrichard said:
Hey pappa!
Have you tested the new sensebuild /w jit on quadrant? It is a better benchmark than linpack, if for no other reason than it tests more than floating point calculations.
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u tell me cause i didnt run it before i had jit on

are you guys gonna pull your ***** out now?
Sent from my HERO200 using Tapatalk

As soon as I have time I will try to get a .zip for people to use to get flash running on there 2.2 heros, But I am not a dev by any means so it will take a day or two.
Also, your "Red Dawn Rom Page" link is messed up. It seems you have an extra "http//" after your "http://".
Papa Smurf151 said:
nfinitefx45 got flash to work. dl either of my roms or his zenherofx and pull the flashliteplugin.apk. that has the lib in it to allow to have flash 10.1 to work.
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HTC Sense

I notice there are a few different ROM's for the DHD, some with Sense some without.
Whats the actual difference, does Sence in some way slow the phone down?
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
So, are there advantages to running a more vanilla android version with some widgets over the sense style ROMs.
I am on mike1986's Android Revolution.

I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

Trig0r said:
I use the clock, friends feed, messages, mail, agenda and the music widgets.
However the one thing that I really dont like is the slide down thing that sense brings, I much prefer the press/slide left/right that you get with the plain Android builds.
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If you root the phone using VISIONary+ you can delete/rename the Lockscreen.apk I believe and it will return to the vanilla lockscreen. As for jazzy widgets that's a Sense thing, unless you buy and install LauncherPro over ADW.Launcher, LauncherPro has People, Bookmarks, Calaendar, Messaging, Twitter, Facebook & Friends widgets that can be used. There is also music widget control using Cyanogen.
I find sense slow and garish, it slows down the phone for no good reason, ASOP ROMs are much lighter and look, IMO, much prettier and unique.

jokies said:
I myself believe sense itself make things sense. For instance the iPhone-like copy&paste.
But yeah you're right it's huge and clumsy. But that's why desire hd has such big ram. I feel sick for not getting full advantage of my device.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.

i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water

rosswaa said:
i dont get it, people who have cyanogen seem to think its LOADS better, but its not though is it, iv used it on the hero and now running it on dhd.
its ok, just more theming options and alot uglier imo, dont like contacts, or phone or music or many of the default apps
thats where sense is LOADS better, its alot easier and nicer to use, has better features
saying this im on cyanogen and really cnt be assed to change back otherwise i would, and i wanna try ginger out when its out
apart from that sense blow cyanogen out the water
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People like the simplicity of Cyanogen. Sense slows even the DHD down, it's aweful. And to boot pretty much everyone with an Android phone has it. It's better to be unique.

you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.

rosswaa said:
you think sense slows dhd down? yeh it makes it sooooo laggy, i get no slow downs using sense and never had not even on hero
people just go with what most say, to make themselves feel "unique", its mainly down to the rom dev if it has lag or not, although it ironic you say your unique for using cyanogen just like allll the others
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Point well made.
I really can't notice nay slow down due to Sense whatsoever. I really do think that someone should clearly "sell" the advantages of dumping Sense, other than just plain old enthusiasm for hacking something. I think it is more down to aesthetics than anything else. Try other ROMs and see if you like them, you might. I like the fact that HTC have at least tried to add value to Android.
A further irony is having come from the Magic I can vouch for the fact that much effort was put into porting Sense to that plain Android phone.
Sorry, no lag when I scroll my SMS or App drawer. The DHD can definitely deal with the demands of Sense.

Sense is pretty cool and only lags if you try to make it. I think that if all Android phones came with Cyanogen as the stock ROM then the Sense ROM would be a massive hit. Cyanogen is definitely a good choice because it's clean and fast but until i actually need my Desire HD to run faster and more efficiently i won't use it. That's why i will go sort of halfway and flash a cooked sense based ROM like Leedroid.

Kalavere said:
Scroll down to the bottom of your app drawer and look at the lag as it reaches the bottom, and open your SMS's and scroll, notice the lag. Sense isn't well coded. And of all the people on XDA how many do I know personally? None. How many of my collegues and friends have Android phones? Lots, how many have Cyanogen? None. That makes it unique.
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look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not

sHaHiN786 said:
I got rid of my Sense just recently, I prefer the phone this way, Sense just took too much space, try other Launchers out, if you prefer it, I suggest you try out the Cyanogen ROM, which I have done. A whole lot better.
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I have to admit I didn't try it out on desire hd but I tried it when I'm with a hero. Say, cyan is for dev and sense is for users. Whatever you get what you want.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

rosswaa said:
look at what lag? my app draw runs fine using launcher pro plus, sms's all run with no lag difference than cyan, just cyan is uglier
who says sense isnt well coded? its coded for normal peole who dont want to run and say i hacked my phone now everyone else says its loads faster so it must be
fair enough benchmarks might say it but is it noticeable? no
as i say its all down to the rom dev if its laggy or not
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Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.

If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?

eozen81 said:
If we move to another ROM apart from sense, does this mean that we will be losing some features like "louder ring in the bag, flip over the phone for quite" etc... ?
Does Cyanogen ROM provide these all?
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You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.

Kalavere said:
You loose louder ring but flip to silence still works. You do loose quite a few of the jazzy features of Sense.
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Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?

eozen81 said:
Is there any exact list showing sense features we will be losing? I guess that's important to know before deciding to move a different ROM, right?
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Not that, I know of. Sense Copy & Paste is one of them, there is no magnification window when you copy and paste on the DHD, and the louder ring, that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

Kalavere said:
Lol, LauncherPro isn't the default launcher, so on a Sense based ROM it will be faster, I am simply pointing out that stock Sense, totally stock launcher and all, lags.
We could argue until the cows come home which is better, but I prefer the alternative that is Cyanogen. At least then I can have a totally black and white theme which is what I like. And it's only recently I have switched to ASOP previously I used a Sense based ROM on my Desire, but craved the ASOP lockscreens and dialer.
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lol who said it had to be standard? sense comes with to much bloatware, so i remove most of it
have you tried this theme addon? http://classical-gas.blogspot.com/2010/12/jamt-htc-desire-cyanogenmod-610rc2.html
works real nice i have cyan set up alight atm but hopefuly not long till the ginger comes along

I am back on a sense rom. Rcmixhd since adfree and other components work correctly unlike on the other sense roms I've tried. I used to love Cyanogen on my Nexus One but the new sense is very slick indeed.
It does not lag. It does take a little longer to boot and use more memory but who cares when we have so much ram on the dhd. I don't know how the amount of room it takes can be an issue either considering we have 1.5gb rom. I still have 0.9gb free with 54 apps installed.
tbh I still love cyanogenmod but its htc locations which is keeping me on sense. Its the best android offline navigator I've tried in terms of routing here in New zealand and I love the fact I can just buy a cheap 1 month subscription for navigation in another country when I go overseas. Any other app one is forced to buy a complete package for that country at considerably larger cost.
Sent from my Desire HD

I really don't like the Sense launcher, I use adw, but sense has lots of little modifications that are just nice to have. Text selection, quick lookup, freaking awesome dialer, flip to speaker etc
I'm running android revolution hd, no lags, excellent battery (whole day with pretty heavy use. Needs charging every night but I can use all the phones features as much as I like and not give the battery a second thought) also 2400 in quadrant. So all in all i really rate sense.

EvIL's Doubleshot vs. Virtuous Unity

Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
Thanks for your thoughts

sunsean said:
Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
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Just flash it and try for yourself. make a nand if you dont like it.

eqjunkie829 said:
Just flash it and try for yourself. make a nand if you dont like it.
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Hmm, interesting advice. Why didn't I think of that?
Anyone else?
p.s. in general I agree with you, best way to know is to try it yourself - but I'm at work, and it will be a while before I can flash it. But I can sneak onto the forums here and there to whet my appetite, so I'm asking for opinions.

DS is the 3.0 revision of mySense...While VU is Sense 3.0. DS is limited in ways like no lockscreen shortcuts, less homescreens, and other things, why is this? Well because it's mySense, which is a slimmed down version on Sense. It ditched the mySense dock, for a new one, that's customizable. It features all the Sense 3 widgets, and has a new one called mytouch widget. Both are very similar in speed, but I haven't tried the latter-i've only tried the DS build from daddyc. Since both are Sense 3 they'll have similar speeds, but DS may be quicker since it's slightly toned down. Less homescreens could lead to a faster experience on the homescreen, and potentially a lower RAM usage.

Ace42 said:
DS is the 3.0 revision of mySense...While VU is Sense 3.0. DS is limited in ways like no lockscreen shortcuts, less homescreens, and other things, why is this? Well because it's mySense, which is a slimmed down version on Sense. It ditched the mySense dock, for a new one, that's customizable. It features all the Sense 3 widgets, and has a new one called mytouch widget. Both are very similar in speed, but I haven't tried the latter-i've only tried the DS build from daddyc. Since both are Sense 3 they'll have similar speeds, but DS may be quicker since it's slightly toned down. Less homescreens could lead to a faster experience on the homescreen, and potentially a lower RAM usage.
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Thanks. Yeah as far as I can tell the only bonus DS has over VU is the customizable dock, and I guess possibly a lighter build hence quicker performance. I'm sure it's a great ROM but I don't see enough reasons to make the jump from VU, which now on the beta has been absolutely stellar.
Hope no one minds this relatively pointless thread, just thought it might be a subject of interest since I know both of these Sense 3.0 ROMS will be very popular.

I personally like it better so far, the main plus is much less ram usage that VU was giving me, plus the dock bar is nice

I love them both, keep switching back and forward
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quikclik2 said:
I personally like it better so far, the main plus is much less ram usage that VU was giving me, plus the dock bar is nice
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sunsean said:
Thanks. Yeah as far as I can tell the only bonus DS has over VU is the customizable dock, and I guess possibly a lighter build hence quicker performance. I'm sure it's a great ROM but I don't see enough reasons to make the jump from VU, which now on the beta has been absolutely stellar.
Hope no one minds this relatively pointless thread, just thought it might be a subject of interest since I know both of these Sense 3.0 ROMS will be very popular.
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DS is mySense thus the lighter burden on RAM, but tbh I don't see any reasons to change from VU->DS or DS->VU. The experience you'll have on either will be similar anyway. I personally prefer the sense dockbar over the new one in DS.

Ace42 said:
DS is mySense thus the lighter burden on RAM, but tbh I don't see any reasons to change from VU->DS or DS->VU. The experience you'll have on either will be similar anyway. I personally prefer the sense dockbar over the new one in DS.
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I tried the DS port for all of 5 minutes before I restored back to unity... I just couldn't deal with 5 homescreens and no shortcuts on the lockscreen.. But this is only my opinion... It is quite smooth, though

well i got to say i tried them both and switched back to evil d unity beta its much more smoother all i need is ffc 2 work and the battery is the same for both did not notice a difference actually i believe i get better battery with evil's unity beta and much more smoother

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Curious to see what people think: for those who were on VU and then flashed to the new Doubleshot ROM, what are your impressions? Can you compare the 2 a bit? Which do you prefer and why?
I'm on VU beta and it is SO smooth and pretty, I'm having a hard time convincing myself to try the new DS. But being able to remove the mysense icon blocks is a big help.
What benefits are there to the DS ROM over VU? Any? I know some differences are DS has only 5 homescreens, the new Sense dock bar, the potential to go landscape rosie (but apparently not on our phones). What else? Seems like a big loss to lose the VU lock screen shortcuts...is there a big difference in speed/performance? I can't imagine another Sense 3.0 ROM being any faster than VU beta.
Thanks for your thoughts
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tvotony said:
how can i get the beta
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Go to evil's VU thread, near the bottom of the OP there's a link for the virtuous website; go to their site then click on the blog portion to the right under 2011, and it should be there. Worth the hunting to find it, it runs beautifully.

It's not on there
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Go to evil's VU thread, near the bottom of the OP there's a link for the virtuous website; go to their site then click on the blog portion to the right under 2011, and it should be there. Worth the hunting to find it, it runs beautifully.
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tvotony said:
It's not on there
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Yes it is.
Evil's VU Thread, bottom of OP, big link that says "Download: Changelog: More Info":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143177
VU website with beta download:
http://www.virtuousrom.com/search?u...dated-max=2012-01-01T00:00:00Z&max-results=14
Download, hit the thanks button, and enjoy

my two sense... ;-)
i tried vu and it has some cool features, BUT, like all the other roms i've tried, i just keep coming back to cm7 (which i hope they will update sometime). i like the simplicity, and it all just works.... also..... a major plus i like.... you can increase the font size for your contacts in vanilla gingerbread.... this makes looking up the right number when a contact has several to choose from.... for some reason... the sense roms leave out this nice little feature...... another BUT.... i will probably try out the VU rom again just because it does have coolness all over it...

vedelorme said:
i tried vu and it has some cool features, BUT, like all the other roms i've tried, i just keep coming back to cm7 (which i hope they will update sometime). i like the simplicity, and it all just works.... also..... a major plus i like.... you can increase the font size for your contacts in vanilla gingerbread.... this makes looking up the right number when a contact has several to choose from.... for some reason... the sense roms leave out this nice little feature...... another BUT.... i will probably try out the VU rom again just because it does have coolness all over it...
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I also like cm7, usually when I go back to AOSP that means cm7. I tried the new RC1 and really liked it, the lock screen gestures were super cool, great for shortcuts.
But ultimately every time I try AOSP I come back to Sense based ROMS, because the peripheral apps, i.e. dialer, music, camera, are so much better IMO. I'm thinking of actually trying the No-Sense mod on the DesireHD forums. It takes a Sense ROM and removes everything BUT those peripheral apps, removes most other launcher-related things, so you can run an AOSP launcher over a stripped down Sense. Sounds like the best of both worlds.

sunsean said:
I also like cm7, usually when I go back to AOSP that means cm7. I tried the new RC1 and really liked it, the lock screen gestures were super cool, great for shortcuts.
But ultimately every time I try AOSP I come back to Sense based ROMS, because the peripheral apps, i.e. dialer, music, camera, are so much better IMO. I'm thinking of actually trying the No-Sense mod on the DesireHD forums. It takes a Sense ROM and removes everything BUT those peripheral apps, removes most other launcher-related things, so you can run an AOSP launcher over a stripped down Sense. Sounds like the best of both worlds.
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That does sound great, you have a link?

Mcoddt said:
That does sound great, you have a link?
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Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475
Haven't tried it yet, but I think it should work for our phones. If you try it let us know how it works.

sunsean said:
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=993475
Haven't tried it yet, but I think it should work for our phones. If you try it let us know how it works.
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Okay I tried it. It runs very fast now but the personalize menu doesn't work. So a quick fix was to re-flash the rom and set the lockscreen icons the way I wanted and then flash the script. Also, the script removes the sense weather which I didn't like but I was able to get it back by going here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13460723. The only thing is the animations don't work so it's just a black screen with the weather info but that's good enough for me. I also replaced LauncherPro with ADW EX. I've been using the phone pretty heavily and battery life has been way better.

Mcoddt said:
Okay I tried it. It runs very fast now but the personalize menu doesn't work. So a quick fix was to re-flash the rom and set the lockscreen icons the way I wanted and then flash the script. Also, the script removes the sense weather which I didn't like but I was able to get it back by going here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13460723. The only thing is the animations don't work so it's just a black screen with the weather info but that's good enough for me. I also replaced LauncherPro with ADW EX. I've been using the phone pretty heavily and battery life has been way better.
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Wow - awesome, thanks for sharing! What sense ROM are you running it over? So is it pretty much like an AOSP ROM with Sense camera, dialer, and music?

What makes these ICS roms so cool?

I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
Thanks

It's the new thing out..newer is better, right?
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mike208 said:
I haven't really tried them out much yet. I installed AOKP for a little bit the other day, but didn't know enough about ti to leave it on as my daily driver for work. SO I am wondering what do these roms have that make them cool? I like the way the 5 icons look in the dock at the bottom of the screen, but I can get that with GoLauncher.
Not hating on these roms at all. I love what the devs are doing. I just want to know what difference I get going with an ICS rom over something like MikG 3.0 or tommys classic?
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Its just another thing that we're not supposed to have on our evos which makes it fun!
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Battery life on decks alphas is awesome

I'd like to use Chrome for the phone.
I haven't left any on my Evo because I'm waiting for CM9 to come out. Although there are a couple of ROMS in the development section that looks promising.
Plus I am getting stellar performance w/ Evo Classic 0.06 Supermagic preview developed by TommyTomatoe

It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.

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It's the latest version of Android, Google what's new.
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I have done that, but I also know these roms aren't all their yet. Just wondering what cool new features they have and which ones they might be missing compared to the actual ICS

I'm not always an early adopter, and I don't automatically subscribe to newer=better.
That said, I just really love the new UI for ICS. I've always had to theme my roms to get rid of green and replace with blue (I hate green).
It's also the first real revamp of the UI in a LONG time. I like how the menu options shoot up the middle of screen, instead of 6 blocks across the bottom.
I like how there's finally scrollable Widgets (namely, finally, for the email), but also browser, calendar.
The quickmenu in browser is a really cool feature, as is the way browser handles tabs.
I really like the way gallery is handled, and the layout for sharing options after a pic is taken.
Notifications sweep away much easier/smoother than I've ever seen on GB. Also, long press of home for task switching is handled nicer than previously, I think.
I just really like it. Yes, there are features not working yet, but I do think it really is an improvement over earlier versions. On AOKP, I'm getting pretty poor battery life (but it's a great ROM), On drews p6 I got fantastic battery life.
Oh, I like the rotation animation, too. I'm sure there's lots more I'm not thinking of.
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Not sold on ICS... yet.
I'm a flashaholic. My wife and I both have EVO 4G's, and I'm constantly flashing different ROMs on our phones. I've tried a couple ICS roms, even though there are still some bugs yet to be worked out. I'm not really impressed. I've found that I prefer ROMs that are more easily theme friendly. I think the new ICS blue is gonna get old fast. My wife prefers MikG 3.0, while I'm currently swagged out with Swagged Out Stock (Swag=ON). That said, when CM9 is available, I'll flash and play around with it. I'm also looking forward to checking out Chrome and a few other apps only available for ICS.

Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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Hey,
Ics is android 4.0 which is the latest and greatest! All the android 4.0 roms you will find right now are all AOSP roms, and later on when HTC releases it there will be the Sense android 4.0 roms! The difference is its just the latest and has extra eye candy and a few better features!
I hope I helped If I did please hit the thanks button,
Stevo

scottspa74 said:
Why do you think CM9 will be worth? Hell, it may never even come to Evo (if you haven't noticed, CM has dropped support for Evo). The devs working on 4.0 now are light years beyond CM. Try it , you'll see.
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As far as I've heard from inside source is that cm9 is close to ready for evo. Its missing some drivers that they are having to write themselves due to lack of support from HTC and qualcom. I know for a fact that a close buddy of mine is running cm9 that he compiled himself from cm tree only thing is hes had to hack the kernel for now. So it will be coming eventually.

cool to hear. I'll obviously keep my eye out (always am lol). Thanks for heads up. AOKP so far has been pretty amazing, though.
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Battery life is my favorite part so far. Going a full day and at the end of the night having 50% left is ridiculous. I use to be lucky having battery left by lunch! AOKP by the way. Tried to post the screenshot but either the upload doesn't work on the app or I don't have enough posts.

First, its task manager is awsome, you have to now end tasks or they will keep going its nice in some ways but lame if you get tomany running,
second, scrollable widgets and the ablity to resize them.\
and thats all i got

The big things that I'm loving about ICS are;
Scollable widgets (I used to stick to sense because of the great widgets, but these are comparable).
Re-sizable widgets (I know this is available with different launcher replacements, but it's nice to have "out of the box").
Battery life, getting almost 24 hours on AOKP.
Swiping away notifications (again, available on different ROMs).
The overall look is fresh, I prefer the blue over the typical green.
The things I'm not a fan of;
No 4g (though I hardly ever used it anyway because it just KILLS my battery).
No video recording.
Random force closes (these are few and far between, much less than other ROMs I've been on, but they still happen).
Not being able to long press to add an app or widget to a screen (I know this is available through NOVA launcher, just talking about out of the box here).
Not sure if I'm sold on the new app drawer layout.
Bottom line is, since I flashed ICS (Evervolv first, now AOKP) to try it out, it's become my daily driver. The features match up with what I'm looking for, and what's currently missing will surely be fixed soon enough thanks to the awesome dev's working on it. As always, it boils down to what you want and what you can live without.

indyjames said:
It's the new thing out..newer is better, right?
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I think thats what it was, for me at least. I couldn't wait to hop on board the ICS train. I was flashing everytime someone released a new alpha!
It eventually died down for me, and now I am settled back down nicely with CM7..

So far the only ICS that has impressed me was 4.0.3 sense 4.0. Other than that I can't seem to see what all the hype is. Aosp ICS in my opinion(yes my opinion) is its plain and poorly colored. Maybe I don't want a turquois blue UI. Idk. Just MY opinion as I know everyone has their own ideas thoughts and feelings. Don't get me wrong I do like some of the features(some which evo4g may not see) but in time I believe it will get better. Everything starts from bottom. GB was the same way when it surfaced for our evos. Well see what the future brings!