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So it's Nov. and I still have no OTA update.

I got this phone in early Sept. Running it completely stock except using Launcher Pro Plus. Haven't rooted it because it's hardware locked. I read that all the customers will get the update by the end of October. Am I the only one that hasn't received their update officially over the air? Should I just wait a couple more days?
I just tried dialing *#*#8736364#*#* to start software update and just got connecting to DM something in notification bar. That went away after a couple mins. and tried start software update again. Got the same results.

I would wait a few days and if by Nov 1st you don't get the update then you can call your carrier and ask them to force it to your phone.
Or you could just do it manually, which honestly I suggest, because I just like many others , got a soft brick when I installed the update over the air.
You can use the software that Samsung put out, Mini Klies , to apply the update.
here's the link: http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=341559

I encountered a strange issue updating through mini kies. All went well, and my phone was running sluggishly so I did a reset and my build number went back to'eclair' but my baseband stayed ji6. I odin'd back to stock and I might just wait for the ota
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I guess I can wait a couple more days. I waited this long. I'm just afraid of anything negative happening. My vibrant is hardware locked, so I'm scared to do anything to it. If the official OTA update messes me up, can I do anything to fix it, or get a new phone or anything?

burntrat said:
I guess I can wait a couple more days. I waited this long. I'm just afraid of anything negative happening. My vibrant is hardware locked, so I'm scared to do anything to it. If the official OTA update messes me up, can I do anything to fix it, or get a new phone or anything?
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Honestly, if you want to take an hour or two to read up on it, it's really easy to get rid of the hardware lock by flashing a fix through Odin. Yeah, it's daunting at first, but I took the plunge and now I'm a ROM-flashing whore. You probably don't need to read that much, but I did just because of my cautious nature. There's a thread in the Development forum with the fix and instructions.
My take is that it's far more likely the OTA will mess you up than using Odin (use v1.3!). Once you remove the lock, it's *almost* impossible to brick this bad boy.

connect with KIES braa

fudo jay said:
connect with KIES braa
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Where can I connected with the "bra"?

Kubernetes said:
Honestly, if you want to take an hour or two to read up on it, it's really easy to get rid of the hardware lock by flashing a fix through Odin. Yeah, it's daunting at first, but I took the plunge and now I'm a ROM-flashing whore. You probably don't need to read that much, but I did just because of my cautious nature. There's a thread in the Development forum with the fix and instructions.
My take is that it's far more likely the OTA will mess you up than using Odin (use v1.3!). Once you remove the lock, it's *almost* impossible to brick this bad boy.
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I should look into that. I really don't look around too much. I just click on a few random threads here and there. Are the instructions simple? I know nothing about programming and this is my first smart phone.
Is this the correct thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=804305

burntrat said:
I should look into that. I really don't look around too much. I just click on a few random threads here and there. Are the instructions simple? I know nothing about programming and this is my first smart phone.
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Heh, I came from an ancient Blackberry, if that makes you feel better.
But yeah, using Odin is stupid easy (but you need to be on Windows AFAIK). Just to give you a quick overview of what you'll need to do, you need to download
1) the Samsung phone drivers,
2) Odin 1.3,
3) the hardware lock fix, and
4) the Android SDK (just for adb, which is like a terminal program that you use to boot your phone into download or recovery mode; since a hardware locked phone can't get into download or recovery with the buttons, you use adb to force it to reboot into download or recovery).
Use adb to boot your Vibrant into download mode, drop the right file into Odin and go. There are actually good Youtube videos on using Odin too (can you tell I researched the crap out of this before risking it?).

PaiPiePia said:
Where can I connected with the "bra"?
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haha its "brahh"? but no really get Kies and connect ur phone and u ll get the update. nothing special about update really. its gay anyway. get bionix fusion. its the ****

fudo jay said:
haha its "brahh"? but no really get Kies and connect ur phone and u ll get the update. nothing special about update really. its gay anyway. get bionix fusion. its the ****
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Is there a link or something? I need instructions that are meant for a child. That is how little I know about this stuff.

Updates
Are there supposed to be updates available to US t-mob vibrant customers or is this only for European customers?

moncapitane said:
Are there supposed to be updates available to US t-mob vibrant customers or is this only for European customers?
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Yeah, there is supposed to be a minor update for US tmo vibrant owners. It just feels like I'm the only one that hasn't gotten it yet.

you don't want to update....makes swipe word predictions super retarded....doesn't samsung test this before sending it out????? WTF

burntrat said:
Haven't rooted it because it's hardware locked.
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you can't root a phone that's hardware locked???

momoe65 said:
you don't want to update....makes swipe word predictions super retarded....doesn't samsung test this before sending it out????? WTF
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I do not agree; my swype keyboard works good after update...the swype mic could be better but hey what u gonna do.

momoe65 said:
you don't want to update....makes swipe word predictions super retarded....doesn't samsung test this before sending it out????? WTF
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Really? That sucks, I use swype frequently.
m4r10 said:
you can't root a phone that's hardware locked???
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I am under the assumption that you can root, but if something goes wrong, you can't do anything to fix it. I was going to get a replacement with tmo, but heard this update will fix the hardware lock issue. I also didn't want to risk getting a refurb for my replacement phone.

vamp6x6x6x said:
I do not agree; my swype keyboard works good after update...the swype mic could be better but hey what u gonna do.
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Wait, what is swype mic? You can talk and it'll swype it for you?

burntrat said:
Wait, what is swype mic? You can talk and it'll swype it for you?
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The update added a microphone button to the swype keyboard so now you can talk to text.

Yeah, it's coming up on the end of the month and I haven't gotten the update either. I'm not closed to using the Mini Kies update, however the last time I updated something from Kies, (READ: JI6) it really ****ed things up, so much so that I'm still feeling the effects. Will the Mini Kies update prevent me future updates like Froyo, or will I me married to Kies and unofficial updates and flashes?
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Day one and im bricked..

Just jumped ships from sprint and got my facinate. Today rooted with one click and tried installing clock work. Thmanage rom manager. All seems well then suddenly my phone freezes for ten minutes I have to do a battery pull. Phone wont boot in anyway or form now. No lights or signs of life other than if I hold the power button as long as its pressed. A device labeled SEC S5PC110 Test B/D appears in device manager. And that'd all it will do. Thinking about exchanging it tomorrow afternoon. Just letting the community know what happened to me any thoughts as how or what happened might be able to help future mishaps

I'd try doing an odin flash. Just search the forums for the step by step. If u can get the phone into flash mode.

Yeah dude, definitely try Odin. Did you try flashing cwm from within ROM manager? I ask because that doesn't work for our phones yet, and it wouldn't surprise me if that could cause problems. I would use Odin to flash it back to stock, and then use the very thorough guide on here on how to get cwm going.
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hilarious post title.. good luck tho man. my only word of advice (tho it won't help u now) is to run back ups before you do anything major

illtema said:
hilarious post title.. good luck tho man. my only word of advice (tho it won't help u now) is to run back ups before you do anything major
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Hard for him to do a backup when he got bricked installing CWM LOL

Possibly bootlocked.
Newer Fascinates seem to be locked. Don't know if there is any way to tell which you've got without attempting a modification of the system....which would of course, result in the above nastiness....

I would think that if newer fascinates were boot locked, so would mesmerizes and I first flashed the stock files for Verizon on my phone then went to elements zinc (which is awesome BTW) installed voodoo 1200 kernel and everything is working great for me. Could just be that he got a bunk phone or something

PhoenixPath said:
Possibly bootlocked.
Newer Fascinates seem to be locked. Don't know if there is any way to tell which you've got without attempting a modification of the system....which would of course, result in the above nastiness....
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I'm thinking it's just Noob users who are bootlocked...

My phone is only a week old everything went fine root,cwm...

wisconsinated said:
I would think that if newer fascinates were boot locked, so would mesmerizes
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Why would you think that? Same hardware!=same software...or we'd all be running USC's kernel/ROM.
Could just be that he got a bunk phone or something
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Could be...which is why I said "possibly" instead of "definitely".

Couldn't get to the flash mode even to use odin, went back today and bestbuy swapped it out for me thinking I just got a bad phone, I could also shake the thing and hear raddling with the usb door shut to so im not really surprised. The new one seems to be working better already, eill try root tonight,

Jwahlg said:
I could also shake the thing and hear raddling with the usb door shut
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Volume toggle. I bet the new one does it.
good day.

chopper the dog said:
Volume toggle. I bet the new one does it.
good day.
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He's right, the volume rockers rattle like a sumbitch.
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My Fascinate is just twp weeks old and One Click and CWM worked just fine for me. BTW I am running JTs super clean rom. Lovin this phone!
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This is why manufacturing companies are locking down phones now. That phone wasn't bricked it could have easily been fixed. OP. Please read and try to learn what u r doing. As well try to have a semi understanding of how u can fix ur phone if u mess it up. I would bet that your phone could have been up and running in 15 minutes.
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ksizzle9 said:
This is why manufacturing companies are locking down phones now. That phone wasn't bricked it could have easily been fixed. OP. Please read and try to learn what u r doing. As well try to have a semi understanding of how u can fix ur phone if u mess it up. I would bet that your phone could have been up and running in 15 minutes.
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x10
This is counter development long term.
I further submit that in the future, all root processes require a ten question exam on the users knowledge to work.
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Mine crashes sometimes. Even with all original OS. I just pull the battery and all is good.
My volume rocker doesn't rattle, so there is that plus.
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Gingerbread out to Testers

Looks like I didn't make the cut to be among the 1000 beta testers, dang it. I completed the survey within 15 mins of receiving the email, guess that wasn't fast enough.
Fingers crossed no issues are found and everyone gets it soon.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...erbread-update-rolls-out-to-some-users-today/

i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...

You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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Just because you dont have the OTA yet doesnt mean you where not picked. When its full the survey actually closes so if you filled it out you usually get the Soak. And like stated dont blindly update the OTA if you are unlocked or dont want to risk not being able to downgrade.

Magnetox said:
i dont know why people are acting like gingerbread isn't already here...
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Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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CaelanT said:
You don't want the OTA. The upgrade in SOAK will stop you flashing back. After its released the devs will dig into it to see what is different to the leaked OTA.
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So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?

Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
With that said, didn't Moto hint to be unlocking the bootloader with the Gingerbread update?
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they did but then ken got word from someone at motorola that they wont be

Viamonte said:
Maybe because our build is full of small bugs. Jus' sayin'
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.

GatorRuss said:
So, as of right now, I am running 1.83 with GladiAtrix, locked bootloader, and very happy.
When the OTA goes out to everybody who is on AT&T, who isn't in the SOAK, I know that I will have to flash back in order to actually get the OTA because of the changes to my file system. You are saying that this new OTA will prohibit me from being able to unlock my bootloader, when the time comes that I want to do that?
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The OTA that was released a little while bricked people who tried to SBF down to a lower firmware. This OTA will most likely do the exact same thing.
I'm not sure if Pudding would work or not with this future OTA.

spielnicht said:
Personally I don't do custom ROMs (or unlock the bootloader) until the phone is out of warranty or Moto made it official not to release new updates. I can't rely on bugs in custom ROMs...learned the hard way a while back.
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Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.

Jnewell05 said:
Kenns gingerbread 4.5.91 for AT&T has no issues except battery jumping around. Install the patch to fix and bam perfect.
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At&t version must be rewponsible for 30% of the market or less. I'm talking about the international version. Battery life sucks , wallpapers take a phone reset to re apply, widgets may go missing, some phones are overheating... of fourse, some have no problems at all, but this is certainly not a final release.
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Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.

Iberian80 said:
Take a look at the iPhone. Might be more along the lines of what you are looking for.
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Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.

Dirtburgler said:
Flashing around with RSD is bad in general. There wont be a reason to flash back to older builds since the bootloader is now unlocked. One little glitch while using RSD can result in a brick. Careful what you post about the Moto-OTA test. The main email said not to mention anything about the soak. This is the 4th post I have seen about it now even if you didnt get in, the NDA was still agreed too and now violated again.
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The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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You can only take the survey after you have agreed to the NDA. He clearly stated he got the email then took the survey. Wow
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THATS NOT TRUE SO DON NOT TROLL I CAN ASSURE YOU IS NOT BYTE BY BYTE IDENTICAL
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The soak version is identical to the stock version posted here a couple weeks ago.
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spielnicht said:
Just because I don't care for custom ROMs doesn't mean I want a crappy OS[x]. Who made up the rule that if you own an Android phone it's a requirement to install custom ROMs. You? If so, sorry son, your argument is flawed. Go troll somewhere else.
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maybe you don't need an iphone, but you probably shouldn't be on xda if you're anti-rom.

neotekz said:
The OP said nothing about getting an email from moto, he linked to a blog that mentioned it. he even stated that he was not chosen for the soak test. you should write the author of that blog to inform them that they are breaking the moto NDA.
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lol wow, do you know how to read? go back and re read the op.

UK official update!!!!

Finally us Brits are getting some official gingerbread yummyness. Although will be tough to change from CM7.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gingerbread-to-Hit-Motorola-ATRIX-in-the-UK-in-November-228480.shtml
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Happy days! !
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ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!

Hopefully it will come with a new radio which can sort out my random battery drain problems.
Despite trying various radios, my battery seems to lose 3%+ per hour when sleeping so with very light use, a charge only lasts a little over 24 hours. I can only assume the problem is the radio as running Watchdog doesn't indicate that there are any rogue apps. I've tried recalibrating the battery to no end either.
As a matter of interest, which radio are other UK users trying at present? I'm currently on 1.77.30.

coolnow said:
ICS just around the corner and GB is STILL not out!
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Exactly, ICS will be out for AT&T before we even get GB here in the UK. I reckon it could be a while yet as our respective service providers have to add all of their bloatware to it.
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I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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To be fair Orange dosent appear to have overly bloated it (for a change) Orange Wednesday and an account checker, however seeing as that is available on the market I cant see why it would be an issue, the only other thing I can see is the addition of AP's etc, but again that should all be automatic anyways.......
Orange always claim they need to test it with their network etc but I recon 2 or 3 weeks after it's released we ought to get it *he hopes*

i find it puzzling that the milestone 2 which is older than the atrix is getting the gb update at the same time. Great news for both of our communities. But time and time again...what the hell are Motorola doing with all there time???? lol

I put a question to Motorola via the facebooks, and they said the update will come out at the same time for orange / t-mobile branded phones as it does for unbranded phones.
Of course given the delays to date I suspect the mid-November date will slip, but we shall see

I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?

I'll believe it when see it -Moto talk a lot a Kak.
Roll on the Nexus & I can dump the Atrix

SamHanlon said:
I've got a Tmobile UK Atrix which I've rooted , unlocked the bootloader etc....
Is it possible to get this phone back to a state where it can be upgraded or will I need to wait until somebody does their magic and creates a CWM image to flash?
I'm really unsure how this works as I've seen many warnings about NOT reverting to Froyo if running GB.
Has anyone tried this?
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If it's a gingerbread rom flashed through recovery you should be fine. Its just the SBF file to be wary of. If you've flashed a gingerbread SBF don't flash a froyo SBF. or you will get a hard brick.
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Sexywacko said:
I haven't got a branded atrix so that shouldn't be a problem for me. But I don't know what I'm doing yet. Because if I restore my stock atrix I could potentially lose root and my unlocked bootloader. Meh the decision .....android is a God damn disease.....must have the new update!!!!! Lol
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For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?

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For sure you will loose Root access but you can get it again under Gingerbread.
Regarding the Bootloader I believe that it's a little bit different and I guess when you have unlocked it you can't go back!
If someone more confident can confirm?
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Yeah probably. But it's not a huge issue rooting and about the bootloader. I wouldnt of thought it would touch it. But knowing Motorola they will screw us over. Lol
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FYI:
Retail update has been released today in the UK, and (if Motorola are to be believed) T-Mobile UK and Orange UK updates will be released within a week.
OTA servers are apparently running behind but updates can be updated using Motorola's Software Update software.
https://supportforums.motorola.com/message/512793#512793

with luck Orange will have a working copy of "Your Orange" this time too....bloody thing tells me to update then I get "Package not signed" and their CS department are hopeless
Next week is better late than never I suppose

Orange UK update released via Motorola Software Update tool (v45.31.0)
I'm updating now..

Thanks for the heads up - I've just updated my sons Atrix & all went OK.
Seems to run fine on GB 2.3.4 although only tried for an hour or so as it's gone back in the box ready for Xmas

After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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Sexywacko said:
After all of this I have decided to sell my atrix....even bought a play and work kit. But its just not doing it for me. Lol
I appreciate everything all the developers do. But the forums just seem so quiet, even compared to my old desire, that forum is s**t hot still. LOL. It is a shame though as this phone had some amazing potential.
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I know how you feel. The Atrix forum, I felt, was never the most helpful of places. When I had my htc DHD, that forum was much more helpful.
Anyhow onwards & upwards - My Nexus came the other day so my Atrix is gather dust, probably chuck it in the bin shortly.

Installing the T-Mobile Software Update?

Hi guys, I haven't updated AT ALL. I remember reading somewhere here on XDA that someone had said, "Don't update if you're planning on rooting". But I really hate the software update popping up on me, and I'd like to have better battery from the second update T-Mobile sent out. What are your guys opinions? Will updating really affect any chances of me rooting my snapdragon S7 Edge? Since they update the 'security' of my device?

You need to update. If anything, you will only be able to unlock bootloader after an update where T-mobile allows to do so. They have previously stated they are working with Samsung on a solution. By not updating, you are only depriving yourself of much need software fixes.
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TheShoxter said:
You need to update. If anything, you will only be able to unlock bootloader after an update where T-mobile allows to do so. They have previously stated they are working with Samsung on a solution. By not updating, you are only depriving yourself of much need software fixes.
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First time I've EVER heard this theory, but OK! :good:

Ker~Man said:
First time I've EVER heard this theory, but OK! :good:
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So are you saying I SHOULDN'T update and that he's wrong?

Right? Either way I updated didn't take me a second to think about it because of root. Pfst if you don't want the fixes that the updates have pushed out then ok. But I'm telling you my battery life! Now I get really good 4 to 5 hours of normal use. I'm happy before the update I'd get 330 to 4 hours
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Leelouster said:
So are you saying I SHOULDN'T update and that he's wrong?
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It's a good update. Its 4pm and I have 68% remaining. Before the update I would have had about 38%
Usage is consistent. No real bug that I have noticed.

vcarr1989 said:
It's a good update. Its 4pm and I have 68% remaining. Before the update I would have had about 38%
Usage is consistent. No real bug that I have noticed.
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The update also fixes the overly sensitive touch screen. Definitely worth it. Also, if you're hoping for root to get ad blocking, check out netguard.

Leelouster said:
So are you saying I SHOULDN'T update and that he's wrong?
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Definitely a great update, but I personally update regardless. And if it f**** me, so be it. I'm just saying I've seen others say more NOT to if you plan on rooting. Which I do, but I'm just a dumbass like that! LoL

Think this update made my battery worse tbh. I've been at work for 4 hours now with light usage and it's at 77%. It didn't get that low with heavier usage in same time frame pre update. Haven't installed anything before or after.

I have installed the updates and the overall performance and battery have improved a lot.

All those who buy new phone when it is first released become beta testers. Simple as that.

Ker~Man said:
First time I've EVER heard this theory, but OK! :good:
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he is absolutely right......locked bootloader is holding us back...the only we will get an unlocked bootloader is through future updates....and besides...there are alot of issues being fixed as he stated....trust me no one has found an exploit on the current firmware you're on..so just update..your missing out lol.

stormonya said:
he is absolutely right......locked bootloader is holding us back...the only we will get an unlocked bootloader is through future updates....and besides...there are alot of issues being fixed as he stated....trust me no one has found an exploit on the current firmware you're on..so just update..your missing out lol.
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**** it might as well lol. I'm getting tired of seeing that stupid update notification anyway. I was just really holding back because I wanted to root my phone so I can get snappreffs and I can save dem nudes lol.

I updated after updating my boyfriend's phone. Got jealous. Going to jump soon anyways. Just need $22 more in payments. This device, as stated by many others, is dead and really has no development future. By the time bootloader is unofficially or officially unlocked there will be barely any developers with the phone still. Just enjoy the software updates. Pretty sure you need them for the latest Good Lock to work anyways, which is awesome btw no more quick connect or S search wasting space in my notification bar.

Leelouster said:
**** it might as well lol. I'm getting tired of seeing that stupid update notification anyway. I was just really holding back because I wanted to root my phone so I can get snappreffs and I can save dem nudes lol.
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I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!! Its dreadful not having snappreffs...?? ..it makes you feel like one of the commoners.... I understand.... Ive had to settle for Casper for now.

StrumerJohn said:
I updated after updating my boyfriend's phone. Got jealous. Going to jump soon anyways. Just need $22 more in payments. This device, as stated by many others, is dead and really has no development future. By the time bootloader is unofficially or officially unlocked there will be barely any developers with the phone still. Just enjoy the software updates. Pretty sure you need them for the latest Good Lock to work anyways, which is awesome btw no more quick connect or S search wasting space in my notification bar.
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Lol well...hopefully someone can find a way around :/ I love this device, I just can't stand that there's no way to root the snapdragon version of it
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I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!! Its dreadful not having snappreffs...���� ..it makes you feel like one of the commoners.... I understand.... Ive had to settle for Casper for now.
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Tell me about it! I miss saving snaps, being able to see a snap forever, and having all the perks of being rooted lol. I've totally forgotten about Casper. How is it? Is it a good alternative to snappreffs? What's the main difference? Can you get caught using it? (Cause I think I've heard that sometimes it doesn't work and they'll get the notification that it screenshotted the picture).

Leelouster said:
Lol well...hopefully someone can find a way around :/ I love this device, I just can't stand that there's no way to root the snapdragon version of it
Tell me about it! I miss saving snaps, being able to see a snap forever, and having all the perks of being rooted lol. I've totally forgotten about Casper. How is it? Is it a good alternative to snappreffs? What's the main difference? Can you get caught using it? (Cause I think I've heard that sometimes it doesn't work and they'll get the notification that it screenshotted the picture).
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It works pretty well....its a standalone app...no major special filters...but its stable and you download everything like snapprefs so it doesn't send notification of screenshot... Because in all actuality you don't screen shots....Casper logs you out of the snapchat app...so it cannot be used simultaneously... Its a good alternative until we get root access.

stormonya said:
It works pretty well....its a standalone app...no major special filters...but its stable and you download everything like snapprefs so it doesn't send notification of screenshot... Because in all actuality you don't screen shots....Casper logs you out of the snapchat app...so it cannot be used simultaneously... Its a good alternative until we get root access.
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Thanks I'll try it out! Do we get to use the cool filters like faceswap and what not?