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I'm part of a team of Samsung Mob!ler's who have been gifted various Samsung products and have been testing and trialling them out!
Recently got a Galaxy Tab (to keep! Thank you Samsung!) and have been putting it through it's paces. Here's brief review when I tested the Tab instore... will be posting more stuff out soon! Check out: bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com
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This morning I excitedly popped out of bed, got ready and made my way to a local Carphone Warehouse shop to test out the new Samsung Galaxy Tab.
It’s the first serious competition to Apple’s popular iPad, and the first in what sounds like a new series of Tablet devices from Samsung. It’s packed full of features, making it an uber cool and handy piece of kit. Essentially it’s somewhere between one those of mini Laptop/Netbooks and a fancy smart phone.
The size of the device has been the centre of much debate; it’s around 4.7 inches wide by 7.5 inches high, making it considerably more portable than the iPad, but still something that you’d struggle to fit in your jeans pocket. The device was usable both with one hand and two, and had a good weight to it, not too heavy and not too light.
What stood out for me was how easy it was to use; interaction was smooth and fast with little lag. With the Google Android Froyo operating software I was able to run multiple applications at the same time with no observable change in performance. The built in games, Asphalt 5 and NOVA were outstanding and showed just what potential the device has to over.
It seems the hardware could quite easily have been notched up a gear or two. Whilst the camera software is good, it’s only a meagre three megapixels and if the screen boasted Samsung’s latest AMOLED display technology the Galaxy Tab would really be quite the steal. I sense it won’t be long till the Galaxy Tab 2 or equivalent is released by Samsung, I’ve also read that software updates for the operating software are already in the pipes.
Still the Galaxy tab is a fantastic way to browse the internet, explore new games and applications, watch movies/videos as well as make phone calls from! It comes with a decent size of memory and an expandable slot for more. The proof however, is in the pudding… Looking forward to receive my own Galaxy Tab very soon and I’ll update you all on the ins and outs of what the this amazing new piece of technology can offer!
Hey man thanks for the article, just a quick question? Are u Turkish?
quite salesmanpichy review..
I'we had it for 2 days, and its basicly a big galaxy S .. with a better email app.
Got Psx4droid working full screen..! Video coming soon as well as a games review of NOVA
Bilal
bilal-mobiler.blogspot.com
(Ps - Not Turkish! Sorry... I'm born and bred British!)
Just a poll: if your note 2 is still in good working condition, will you upgrade when note 3 comes out?
No. I have my Note 2 for 7 months. I go for the Note 5.
No. I'll only consider buying new one, if they manage to create screen that will be perfect visible in direct sunlight. Apart from that, I don't see a reason to buy next gen note. Note2 is a beast, that run perfect for me.
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No. I'll only consider buying new one, if they manage to create screen that will be perfect visible in direct sunlight. Apart from that, I don't see a reason to buy next gen note. Note2 is a beast, that run perfect for me.
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I second that. I tried taking pictures of my car with my Note 2 to send to someone interested in buying it and they call came out looking like crap because I couldn't make out what was on the screen even though the sun wasn't hitting the screen directly. Give me a phone with a super-bright screen mode (even if it reduces the battery life to three hours or less) so I can use the camera outdoors!
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Absolutely.
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Without a shadow of a doubt. Using an iPhone 5 now, like the experience but its very claustrophobic with the tiny display. Been waiting for the note 3 since the Note 2 was released and will definitely upgrade on day 1.
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YES I WILL I CAN'T WAIT
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The rumored specs looked fine to me. I was jumping down to s4 but skipped it cz of bugs. Now I know that note 3 will carry all the cool features from s4, so I will surely go.
Not much difference between note 2 and note 3..2gb RAM of note 2 is more than enough and same is true for CPU and camera
i will wait for note 4/5 because i will consider that as upgrade
some people just got for new one even if their current phone satisfy all their needs
It's a big difference... And I will buy day 1
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I'll wait until the official announcement and then make a decision. We have no real details at present.
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I wont
Or depends on built quality also now
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Here are my thoughts; maybe they'll help others deciding whether to leave the N2 for the N3. First, the N2’s been the best phone I’ve ever owned. Its combination of features and performance make it a great all-around device. I’m one of the few that actually use S Pen, S Note, multiview, the Pop up browser, Samsung Link, KiesAir and quite a few of Samsung’s other s/w features. I’m going to get a N3 as soon as I can, probably the Octa/Mali version. If the S-800 international version supports global LTE than I may get it instead. I have no interest in a U.S. carrier version of the N3.
Here are my main reasons for switching:
Performance – While the N2’s no slouch more is always better; especially from the GPU. I’m sure that the N3 having twice the pixel count of the N2 is going to offset some of that performance but it should still be a noticeably smoother device. That’s in spite of the boat load of additional s/w “tricks” that will most likely be included which is why I’m betting Samsung’s upped the RAM to 3GB (which in retrospect they should have done with the SGS4). The RAM on the N3 is also supposed to be faster than the SGS4.
32GB of Storage – Even though I’m sure we’ll be paying for it via a higher MSRP I’m thrilled that the N3 will start at 32GB (assuming the rumor’s true). It’s great that Samsung created an A2SD feature starting with the SGS4 but it does you know good on certain DRM protected apps that won’t/don’t recognize external storage.
The Camera – 13MP with OIS and potentially a Xenon flash sounds terrific. It’ll most likely be the Exmor RS sensor from Sony which has gotten great reviews from i9500 users (the i9505 uses the older Exmor R sensor).
Battery – A 3,450mAh battery is kick-ass and, based on Octa/S-600 in the SGS4, should deliver 25% better battery life over the N2 in spite of all Samsung’s additional sensors and the extra pixels from the 1080P display. Pack a spare battery and you could be away from an outlet for two days easy with a N3.
Software – I like Samsung’s gimmicks. Some are incredibly useful while others are cool “just because you can.” The N3 will have all the S4’s new s/w and then some. The N3 will keep me entertained for hours just playing with it. Samsung also registered a new URL (samsungpenup.com) that could mean they are finally investing in S Note and potentially making it multi-platform so you can open and edit S Notes on non-Samsung windows PCs.
Here are some reasons I wouldn’t switch:
720P vs. 1080P – At 12-15” away the human eye can’t resolve the detail between the two. With the N2’s large display I find I typically hold it further away anyway. I’m sure the N3’s display will be an upgrade in image reproduction but the additional pixels alone don’t sway me. The N2’s got a great non-PenTile display and I have no complaints with it.
5.5” vs. 5.68” – The bump in size may seem larger in everyday use but it’s not big enough (at least to me) to justify replacing the N2 for it. If Samsung plays with the DPI so that you can get more on the display (5 rows of icons vs. 4) that would be interesting. A higher quality larger display with more on it is more attractive than a fractional bump in size. I also don’t think anything over 5.68” is necessary to ink and view multiple apps and am glad Samsung didn’t throw the N3 in to the “colossus wars” like Sony, LG, and HTC have.
Design/Size – Unless Samsung’s got some surprises in store I’d bet the N3 will follow in the SGS4’s footsteps – more stuff, bigger display, smaller and/or lighter package. That’s cool to have but I’m fine with both the N2’s size and design.
Here’s why I wouldn’t leave Samsung for HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG:
Samsung’s Mass – Developers of mass market apps launch stuff for Samsung devices first and best. Samsung devices represent the largest audiences available and they tend to be more thorough in their testing for it. Here’s an example. My cable company has a “watch live TV app.” It works on iOS and one Android device; Samsung’s Note-series so I have it on my N2 and Note 10.1.
They Make Cool Stuff – WatchOn’s brilliant if you have a Samsung SmartTV. Not only can you use WatchOn to find stuff easily and control the TV their newer TV’s have AllShare Cast built-in as well as Samsung Link and the ability (on higher-end models) to watch content (including DRM protected) on your Samsung mobile device.
Samsung Link is life changing. It’s your own personal network that allows all your devices to be accessible to each other all the time. For mobile devices that includes over 3/4G. For example, if I’m on 3G with my Note 10.1 and want to pull a Word document off my home server all I need to do is access it via Samsung link. Same goes if I want to move pics taken on my phone to my tablet.
All the above is of course a YMMV. I love Samsung’s s/w and there are tons of people that couldn’t live without AOSP and the “pureness” of whatever Google’s serving up. Also a ton of people bought the N2 because of the size of its display and could care less about inking and Samsung's additional features. For them there will be a ton of additional giant phone choices this year. For people like me the only reason I have a giant phone is because of things like S Note/S Pen so there really isn't another choice; at least not based on what's been announced/leaked so far.
Happy decision making and enjoy whatever your choice may be.
Damn BarryH....great synopsis!
BarryH_GEG said:
Here are my thoughts; maybe they'll help others deciding whether to leave the N2 for the N3. First, the N2’s been the best phone I’ve ever owned. Its combination of features and performance make it a great all-around device. I’m one of the few that actually use S Pen, S Note, multiview, the Pop up browser, Samsung Link, KiesAir and quite a few of Samsung’s other s/w features. I’m going to get a N3 as soon as I can, probably the Octa/Mali version. If the S-800 international version supports global LTE than I may get it instead. I have no interest in a U.S. carrier version of the N3.
Here are my main reasons for switching:
Performance – While the N2’s no slouch more is always better; especially from the GPU. I’m sure that the N3 having twice the pixel count of the N2 is going to offset some of that performance but it should still be a noticeably smoother device. That’s in spite of the boat load of additional s/w “tricks” that will most likely be included which is why I’m betting Samsung’s upped the RAM to 3GB (which in retrospect they should have done with the SGS4). The RAM on the N3 is also supposed to be faster than the SGS4.
32GB of Storage – Even though I’m sure we’ll be paying for it via a higher MSRP I’m thrilled that the N3 will start at 32GB (assuming the rumor’s true). It’s great that Samsung created an A2SD feature starting with the SGS4 but it does you know good on certain DRM protected apps that won’t/don’t recognize external storage.
The Camera – 13MP with OIS and potentially a Xenon flash sounds terrific. It’ll most likely be the Exmor RS sensor from Sony which has gotten great reviews from i9500 users (the i9505 uses the older Exmor R sensor).
Battery – A 3,450mAh battery is kick-ass and, based on Octa/S-600 in the SGS4, should deliver 25% better battery life over the N2 in spite of all Samsung’s additional sensors and the extra pixels from the 1080P display. Pack a spare battery and you could be away from an outlet for two days easy with a N3.
Software – I like Samsung’s gimmicks. Some are incredibly useful while others are cool “just because you can.” The N3 will have all the S4’s new s/w and then some. The N3 will keep me entertained for hours just playing with it. Samsung also registered a new URL (samsungpenup.com) that could mean they are finally investing in S Note and potentially making it multi-platform so you can open and edit S Notes on non-Samsung windows PCs.
Here are some reasons I wouldn’t switch:
720P vs. 1080P – At 12-15” away the human eye can’t resolve the detail between the two. With the N2’s large display I find I typically hold it further away anyway. I’m sure the N3’s display will be an upgrade in image reproduction but the additional pixels alone don’t sway me. The N2’s got a great non-PenTile display and I have no complaints with it.
5.5” vs. 5.68” – The bump in size may seem larger in everyday use but it’s not big enough (at least to me) to justify replacing the N2 for it. If Samsung plays with the DPI so that you can get more on the display (5 rows of icons vs. 4) that would be interesting. A higher quality larger display with more on it is more attractive than a fractional bump in size. I also don’t think anything over 5.68” is necessary to ink and view multiple apps and am glad Samsung didn’t throw the N3 in to the “colossus wars” like Sony, LG, and HTC have.
Design/Size – Unless Samsung’s got some surprises in store I’d bet the N3 will follow in the SGS4’s footsteps – more stuff, bigger display, smaller and/or lighter package. That’s cool to have but I’m fine with both the N2’s size and design.
Here’s why I wouldn’t leave Samsung for HTC, Sony, Motorola or LG:
Samsung’s Mass – Developers of mass market apps launch stuff for Samsung devices first and best. Samsung devices represent the largest audiences available and they tend to be more thorough in their testing for it. Here’s an example. My cable company has a “watch live TV app.” It works on iOS and one Android device; Samsung’s Note-series so I have it on my N2 and Note 10.1.
They Make Cool Stuff – WatchOn’s brilliant if you have a Samsung SmartTV. Not only can you use WatchOn to find stuff easily and control the TV their newer TV’s have AllShare Cast built-in as well as Samsung Link and the ability (on higher-end models) to watch content (including DRM protected) on your Samsung mobile device.
Samsung Link is life changing. It’s your own personal network that allows all your devices to be accessible to each other all the time. For mobile devices that includes over 3/4G. For example, if I’m on 3G with my Note 10.1 and want to pull a Word document off my home server all I need to do is access it via Samsung link. Same goes if I want to move pics taken on my phone to my tablet.
All the above is of course a YMMV. I love Samsung’s s/w and there are tons of people that couldn’t live without AOSP and the “pureness” of whatever Google’s serving up. Also a ton of people bought the N2 because of the size of its display and could care less about inking and Samsung's additional features. For them there will be a ton of additional giant phone choices this year. For people like me the only reason I have a giant phone is because of things like S Note/S Pen so there really isn't another choice; at least not based on what's been announced/leaked so far.
Happy decision making and enjoy whatever your choice may be.
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No... I will wait for note 4
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@ Barry, you wouldn't switch because of the display??? That's my main reason to switch. If you experience a 1080p display or should I say a 320+ Ppi display, you'll definitely notice the difference. Not that it breaks the experience on the note 2, far from it, but I would say that the display is definitely a main reason to upgrade because 1080p displays are NOTICEABLY better than 720p displays.
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Not much difference between note 2 and note 3..2gb RAM of note 2 is more than enough and same is true for CPU and camera
i will wait for note 4/5 because i will consider that as upgrade
some people just got for new one even if their current phone satisfy all their needs
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I have absolutly same opinion.
The decision is easy for me because I'm moving from S2. I was waiting for S4, but seeing my wife's N2 and the usefulness of the S Pen at that screen size, I decided to get a Note 3 at launch. Now, I'm deciding whether to sell my Note 10.1, since I find myself using the recently acquired 11" Macbook Air for most of my "work/entertainment from the couch" activities and there'll be some overlap between N3 and N10.1.
I'm not buying another phone until they either switch back to plastic screens, or develop one that doesn't break when you drop the thing. Cracking my Note 2 screen was devastating...
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You wouldn't switch because of the display??? That's my main reason to switch. If you experience a 1080p display or should I say a 320+ Ppi display, you'll definitely notice the difference.
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Not really. I've posted this before and you're probably tired of seeing it but it's true. Beyond a certain PPI the human eye can't resolve the additional detail. And where it can is limited to CGI and text not pictures and video which is explained in the article.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/10/1080p-on-a-smartphone-screencan-it-possibly-matter/
In every area outside resolution the HTC One's display is inferior to the One X's. People have become so hung up on PPI that they've stopped caring about the criteria that affects them most like consistency across displays, brightness, color temperature, contract, etc. I think the N3's display will be better than the N2's more because of improvements in AMOLED design and manufacturing than just PPI. The SGS4's display is significantly brighter than the N2's and the N3's will probably be more so because there's more battery to work with in terms of where Samsung can set max brightness.
Here's what AnandTech (who arean't big Samsung fans) said about the N2's display.
It’s tempting to look at the 1280x800 of the Note and the 1280x720 of the Note 2 and assume it’s lower resolution, when in fact the Note 2 has more subpixels (2.05 MP vs 2.76 MP) and in spite of the size increase stays around the magical 1 arcminute subtense (1.073 arcminutes on Note 2).The reference to 1 arcminute is significant. Anything below 1 arcminute can't be processed by the human eye at 12-15" away. The One and SGS4 have an arcminute subtense of .66 which is just a waste. That is unless someone holds the phone 12" or less away from their face and happen to be looking at text or icons. I think the improvements people are seeing on newer displays has less to do with PPI in some cases (SGS3 vs. SGS4) and more to do with advances in technology that impact overall display performance.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6386/samsung-galaxy-note-2-review-t-mobile-/8
Just been reading about these new tab pro devices, they have 4.4 and touch wiz has been modified and changed. So we just paid 450 quid for the 2014 edition when they Bring put new ones, some hardware yes but with All brand new software, really hope they do am update for our tab with new touch wiz and 4.4 , be darn right unfair else
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Ok, so they announced their tab pro series, and all i can see about the difference is on the software side, 4.4 wont take long for our device to have, and I, personally is happy because it has the same specs as ours, except that we have the stylus, meaning it is possible to just port something from the pro to our device, its just my thought though
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Ok, so they announced their tab pro series, and all i can see about the difference is on the software side, 4.4 wont take long for our device to have, and I, personally is happy because it has the same specs as ours, except that we have the stylus, meaning it is possible to just port something from the pro to our device, its just my thought though
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Exactly my thought!
We can't assume our greatest and latest will be like that forever. However, we do have one of the best devices ever put out - also, 4.4 will come to our note tab. It's just a matter of time. I don't know how I will like it though... That UI... Oh dear.. The CES tablet looks just like one big Sammy ad, showing off Hub and all of it's spam. Nothing useful at all.
Yep. I personally find 12.2 way too huge, but from the video demo it seems like their software has improved!
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/samsung-galaxy-note-pro/
There's barely any lag that I noticed in the video, if at all, so I hope that we get some update similar to that. Also hopefully if this device gets picked up, it will spur more development for the note 2014 since its basically the same hardware all around.
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Exactly my thought!
We can't assume our greatest and latest will be like that forever. However, we do have one of the best devices ever put out - also, 4.4 will come to our note tab. It's just a matter of time. I don't know how I will like it though... That UI... Oh dear.. The CES tablet looks just like one big Sammy ad, showing off Hub and all of it's spam. Nothing useful at all.
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Seriously that UI is awful... Sammy said that you cannot remove those home screens ... unless you plan on rooting of course
When I saw that big shiny 12.2 NotePro I was first hit with instant gadget lust, then brief remorse and then I realized that I was looking for a tablet that I can carry around in my bag, use on the subway etc... that thing is not very convenient to lug around... it's heavy and you would be forced to use the split onscreen keyboard... all things considered I am happy with my choice ! That remote desktop feature will probably be gifted to us at some point with an update... What I want right now is an official Samsung dock for our 10.1 that will let you connect a keyboard/mouse that won't lose it's connection, and an hdmi out to mirror onto any smart tv.
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The Note-series devices are Samsung's flagships and priced that way. I guarantee you the N10.1-14 will get 4.4 at the same time the Pro-series and N12 are released - if not sooner. The N12 has the same internals and display resolution as the N10.1-14 so in essence our update's already done. They've finally updated TW too which might be why they never finished the roll-out of multiuser or issued any recent 4.3 updates for the N10.1-14. If the N10.1-14 was an orphan I could see people getting edgy. It was actually the first piece in Samsung's 2014 Android tablet puzzle with the rest of the pieces now falling in to place. It would be kind of stupid of them to have the 10.1 Pro have newer s/w and better features than the N10.1-14 when the latter costs more therefore offering them higher margin.
They also announced the galaxy tab pro models = Note 10.1 2014 minus the S pen. Everything else is pretty much the same minus the ram. Not sure about the processor though, but if it is exynos then perhaps we can just port stuff over to our device development wise?
The only thing that has really caught my attention is the 4 way multiwindow and kit kat which I'm sure we'll get eventually. (A little jealous of the cpu but I can get over that)
^ Isn't all the hardware exactly the same between ours and the 12.2 version?
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^ Isn't all the hardware exactly the same between ours and the 12.2 version?
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Yep. Or adjusted down in the non-Note tablets.
Otherwise, both models (Note 12) feature a 12.2-inch 2,560×1,600 SC-LCD touchscreen, a 1.9 GHz Samsung Exynos Octa processor for the Wi-Fi+3G version, a 2.3 Ghz quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor for the LTE version, an 8 MP rear camera, a 2 MP front camera, Wi-Fi 802.11 ac (with MIMO), Bluetooth 4.0, GPS, 3 GB of RAM, 32 GB of internal storage, microSD card support, and a 9,500 mAh battery. They both run Android 4.4 KitKat from day one, with Samsung’s TouchWiz UI overlay on top, complete with the new Magazine UX that replaces the traditional home screen paradigm with easily surfaced information from all the apps you care about.
The Galaxy Tab Pro 10.1 has a 10.1-inch touchscreen as you’d imagine, yet it keeps the 2,560×1,600 resolution. It also has the same choice of chipsets, the same cameras, and connectivity options as its bigger siblings, but comes with 2 GB of RAM, 16 or 32 GB of internal storage (with microSD expansion), and an 8,220 mAh battery. It too runs Android 4.4 KitKat.
http://www.unwiredview.com/2014/01/...&utm_campaign=Feed:+UnwiredView+(Unwired+View)
I think the screen real estate is nice and I don't see much lag. I would try it as long as the extra screen space doesn't compromise portability. I like seeing Samsung continuing to seek better products.
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I like seeing Samsung continuing to seek better products.
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With all their 2014 high-end products using the same display resolution and h/w we should see much faster s/w updates. When you think about it the s/w on the Pro 8.4 is nothing but a Note 12 Pro's s/w with features disabled.
Honestly not fussed with anything they have just released, this screen is perfect for me and since all the devices are on par with ours unless you want a 12.2 inch screen I really can't see why anyone would be jealous or envious of what samsung released today
I hope the new launcher can be removed maybe with nova or apex. I'll never buy a tablet with this new UI.
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I hope the new launcher can be removed maybe with nova or apex. I'll never buy a tablet with this new UI.
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Same - It just looks S#@T.
I will be angry if we get an kitkat update to that rubbish and can't take it off, I'm happy with Touch wiz at the min but I'd hate it if I had to use another launcher or if I had to root to get rid of it. Guess we have to wait and see.
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I will be angry if we get an kitkat update to that rubbish and can't take it off, I'm happy with Touch wiz at the min but I'd hate it if I had to use another launcher or if I had to root to get rid of it. Guess we have to wait and see.
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You're safe.
Widgets gone wild
The Galaxy TabPro ships with Android 4.4, but that actually may not be so apparent at first glance. The TouchWiz interface has been replaced with what the company has christened Magazine UX. It's a much more graphical UI that uses widgets to make accessing information and apps much more immediate.
While app icons are still accessible, the default interface looks like something closer to Windows 8.1, with the screen segmented into tiles. For instance, the default home screen puts a weather widget along the left edge, while the right side is divided between a Flipboard widget at the top and an array of frequently used apps below it.
Each widget is completely interactive -- for example, swiping down on Flipboard cycles through different news stories -- and widget selection, size, placement, and orientation are all customizable. You can create several widget-filled screens like this each with its own widgets and design.
The interface isn't the most intuitive -- I had trouble figuring out why I couldn't make certain widgets as small or as large as I wanted -- but once I learned how to do things, it all started to fall into place for me. Thankfully, Samsung was smart not to upset the apple cart too much, as you can still access apps the traditional way if widgets just aren't working for you.
http://reviews.cnet.com/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tabpro-12/4505-3126_7-35833901.html
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You're safe.
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Mmmmm, I read an article that made it sound that the home button will always take you to Magazine UX and that you had to swipe all the way to the left for simple apps. Maybe I'm just assuming too much lol.
Edit: actually it was the endgadget video showed that. He had to swipe all the way to the left.
QuantumPSI said:
The only thing that has really caught my attention is the 4 way multiwindow and kit kat which I'm sure we'll get eventually. (A little jealous of the cpu but I can get over that)
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If you are rooted, there is an xposed app that gives you 4 way multiwindow. Tried it on my note 3
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Geordie Affy said:
Mmmmm, I read an article that made it sound that the home button will always take you to Magazine UX and that you had to swipe all the way to the left for simple apps. Maybe I'm just assuming too much lol.
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The "Home" button takes you to your preset home page today. Use traditional widgets (Samsung's if they aren't all "UX'd" or third party) and you wouldn't/shouldn't notice a difference from your current set up. Today pressing the home button while you're already on the home page opens My Magazine. But it can be disabled. I'm guessing Magazine UX replaces My Magazine so it could/should have an off switch too. All previous updates that Samsung released preserved a user's current experience. It would be kind of jarring if after the N10.1-14's update you suddenly didn't recognize it.
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The "Home" button takes you to your preset home page today. Use traditional widgets (Samsung's if they aren't all "UX'd" or third party) and you wouldn't/shouldn't notice a difference from your current set up. Today pressing the home button while you're already on the home page opens My Magazine. But it can be disabled. I'm guessing Magazine UX replaces My Magazine so it could/should have an off switch too. All previous updates that Samsung released preserved a user's current experience. It would be kind of jarring if after the N10.1-14's update you suddenly didn't recognize it.
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I guess you are right but this is Samsung we're talking about, nothing is ever soo simple with them haha - we in the UK are still on MJ6 LOL
I bought the Note 10.1 a couple of months after it's launch in the US, and I have been using it in school to take notes on lectures ever since.
My friend bought the 2014 edition a few months back and I noticed that it just falls short. Yes, it's good, but it's no where near as good as ours is.
First and foremost - the battery is stronger. He squeezes out a day of usage while I can go to school 3 days in a row without getting near a charger.
The note 10.1 surprisingly does not lag. I think that it's one of the only samsung devices out there that don't lag with Touchwiz. The 2014 edition lags even when you pull down the notification shade.
Even the 2014 main advantage - it's display - is not worth it. The quality on the original note is so damn good that resolutions don't matter. I gave a few people the chance to compare them. The majority pointed on my tablet, claiming it had the better screen. The sheer quality of the display definitely makes up for the not-so-high resolution.
These are just some few basic things. If you go in deeper you'll surely find other little causes to favour the one over the other. But looking on the big things - battery, UI and general feel and even the display of the Note 10.1 are superior to the new 2014 Edition. If you have a 2012 edition and are considering whether to upgrade or not - save your cash. The 2012 is simply the better one.
Even Though That 2014 Edition might be thinner and smaller in size and looking better
but old one can do everything very well
i don't even Consider buying the new one because it will just be waste of money
i love my note and i think it's more than enough for me ^_^
Just bought the 2012, refurb from a major UK seller with 12 months warranty, half the price of cheapest 2014 I could find - well happy.
The only feat the 2014 edition Galaxy Note 10.1 has over the original Note 10.1 is the higher resolution.
2560 x 1600 on a 10.1" screen is beyond overkill.
about as much as the 1920x1200 resolution of my Nexus 7. I wish the Nexus 7 had capacitive buttons and not on screen dock buttons taking up the screen.
The Note 10.1 (N8000) is originally planned to run fluently with 1GB of RAM only (similar to Note 1 N7000), but its RAM is doubled (2x) at the last minute, making every specs twice the Note 1 with the same resolution, so it is more than enough even now. :good:
On the other hand, the Note 10.1 2014 only has its RAM boosted to 3GB (1.5x), its octa-core still operates in each group of four instead of true octa-core so they're not that much better, but the screen resolution becomes four times the N8000's, so it's somewhat insufficient. In fact, it is possible that the lag often occured when the tablet switches from the 'power-saving' group of CPUs (1.2Ghz x 4) to the 'performance' one (1.9Ghz x 4), so the Qualcomm version might be better.
About the screen: the 2014 one has higher resolution, which means in order to look nice everything displayed on it should at least match the huge resolution. The N8000 on the other hand still has HD resolution, which is quite good (considering HD was once a hype in TVs), and everything bigger than HD is guaranteed to look nice on it.
Yes n8000 is quite good all the way. Im not either going to replace this by 2014 or Pros. A minor (for me, huge) issue is the lack of a newer OS, but if you dont use smart-accessories, share SNote, you will be fine. Im using Sonys sw2 and unfortunately there is growing numbers of apps that require the API level of the newer OS than it is in A4.1.2 :/
Sent from my Galaxy Note 10.1 (N8000).
One big thing that the note has going for it is support. I am not even sure if Samsung remembers this device.
I hate the home button on a tablet on a phone it's nice so it doesn't eat up space on a tablet with ample space navigation bars are a blessing. No matter how you hold the tablet you have access to the Navy bar unfortunately with a physical home button now you have to flip it around if you hold it a certain way.
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I bought my n8013 last month after reading lots of reviews. Unfortunately, I did not look at XDA. It never even dawned on me that a tablet as awesome as this one would not even be brought up to the level of OS that my dual-core S3 was at. Still can't believe it. Having said that, this thing flies on Hyperdrive, has no lag at all with Nova launcher. But this machine really deserves at least one more major update. If the S5 is not the absolute best phone on the market when it is released, I think I will be done with Samsung's stuff for a while. I'll use and love this tablet till it falls apart tho.
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Latest isn't always greatest.
Keep in mind that 4.4 will not allow you to install flash player, so you may want to get N8013 if you rely on flash.
I'd be content with 4.2 of Jelly Bean.
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Latest isn't always greatest.
Keep in mind that 4.4 will not allow you to install flash player, so you may want to get N8013 if you rely on flash.
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Really explain to me how I'm running flash on my nexus 5 ? Works really good with Dolfin :what:
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Really explain to me how I'm running flash on my nexus 5 ? Works really good with Dolfin :what:
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I have 4.4 on my Nexus 7 and I can confirm that Flash playback does not work well.
Try to play Youtube video embed.
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I bought the Note 10.1 a couple of months after it's launch in the US.
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I was one of the first on XDA to get a N10.1-12 in August, 2012, when it was launched. It replaced a year-old G-Tab 10.1 (which had the same screen resolution BTW). I've had a N10.1-14 since October. So I have lots of Samsung tablet experience. To say that the display on the '12 is "superior" to the '14 is ridiculous. The display on the N10.1-12 was painful from day one and Samsung was ridiculed for releasing such a high-end device without a 1,900x1,200 display which Asus and Acer were already offering. When I had a N2 going between it and the N10.1-12 was livable. The N10.1-12 was pretty much history after I got a N3 because of the pronounced difference in their displays.
The difference in form factor, design, and materials between the two is another big selling point for the N10.1-14. The N10.1-12 looked just like every other Samsung tablet and not like the flagship it was. And not a single reviewer had anything positive to say about the glossy plastic back and obviously plastic metallized bezel. The only benefit of the old design was front facing speakers but the N10.1-14's are certainly loud enough and most agree that the reduction in size by moving them to the sides was a worthy trade-off.
As for s/w changes the N10.1-14 adapts the same Multi View methods used in the N3. It's kind of jarring coming from the N10.1-12 but after using it for a while the changes Samsung made start to make sense. Using Air View to open apps with Pen Window is fantastic. You can have a browser present and minimized as an icon constantly available no matter where you are in the UI and no matter what you're doing. Leaks have already appeared of 4.4 with Magazine UX for the N10.1-14. In it, the number of Pen Window apps have tripled and the ability to "cascade" multiple apps is being introduced (it was a feature from the N10.1-12 that was missing). There's nothing from the N10.1-12 that I miss s/w wise.
The N10.1-12 is a great device and for people buying it today for $200'ish it's a great value based on the function it provides. Nothing's going to make a 147 PPI display acceptable when even today's low-end 7" tablets have it beat. And that low PPI display is the only reason the performance of the N10.1-12 is still adequate. The Exynos chip and Mali 400 GPU it uses are the same as what's in the SGS3 which debuted in March, 2012; almost two years ago.
And for those with short memories the N10.1-12 shipped with 4.0.4 and wasn't upgraded to 4.1 and the "Premium Suite" until January, 2013. There were tons of issues with the N10.1-12's launch s/w and plenty of lag; especially when multiple apps were open. So the N10.1-14 does have some occasional transition lag but is due to receive a major update this month; less time than the five months it took Samsung to update the N10.1-12 so it performed to its full potential.
You're entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to change it. But as someone whose owned both devices I wouldn't want someone to buy the N10.1-12 today without some counter point to consider because you and I have greatly differing opinions.
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I have 4.4 on my Nexus 7 and I can confirm that Flash playback does not work well.
Try to play Youtube video embed.
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Theres a hacked version in the Nexsus 5 Q&A section maybe you can give it a try on your N7. It works real well on the N5. DL link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qjrD8ZER9ITmlVNW1EVWM5YlE/preview
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I was one of the first on XDA to get a N10.1-12 in August, 2012, when it was launched. It replaced a year-old G-Tab 10.1 (which had the same screen resolution BTW). I've had a N10.1-14 since October. So I have lots of Samsung tablet experience. To say that the display on the '12 is "superior" to the '14 is ridiculous. The display on the N10.1-12 was painful from day one and Samsung was ridiculed for releasing such a high-end device without a 1,900x1,200 display which Asus and Acer were already offering. When I had a N2 going between it and the N10.1-12 was livable. The N10.1-12 was pretty much history after I got a N3 because of the pronounced difference in their displays.
The difference in form factor, design, and materials between the two is another big selling point for the N10.1-14. The N10.1-12 looked just like every other Samsung tablet and not like the flagship it was. And not a single reviewer had anything positive to say about the glossy plastic back and obviously plastic metallized bezel. The only benefit of the old design was front facing speakers but the N10.1-14's are certainly loud enough and most agree that the reduction in size by moving them to the sides was a worthy trade-off.
As for s/w changes the N10.1-14 adapts the same Multi View methods used in the N3. It's kind of jarring coming from the N10.1-12 but after using it for a while the changes Samsung made start to make sense. Using Air View to open apps with Pen Window is fantastic. You can have a browser present and minimized as an icon constantly available no matter where you are in the UI and no matter what you're doing. Leaks have already appeared of 4.4 with Magazine UX for the N10.1-14. In it, the number of Pen Window apps have tripled and the ability to "cascade" multiple apps is being introduced (it was a feature from the N10.1-12 that was missing). There's nothing from the N10.1-12 that I miss s/w wise.
The N10.1-12 is a great device and for people buying it today for $200'ish it's a great value based on the function it provides. Nothing's going to make a 147 PPI display acceptable when even today's low-end 7" tablets have it beat. And that low PPI display is the only reason the performance of the N10.1-12 is still adequate. The Exynos chip and Mali 400 GPU it uses are the same as what's in the SGS3 which debuted in March, 2012; almost two years ago.
And for those with short memories the N10.1-12 shipped with 4.0.4 and wasn't upgraded to 4.1 and the "Premium Suite" until January, 2013. There were tons of issues with the N10.1-12's launch s/w and plenty of lag; especially when multiple apps were open. So the N10.1-14 does have some occasional transition lag but is due to receive a major update this month; less time than the five months it took Samsung to update the N10.1-12 so it performed to its full potential.
You're entitled to your opinion and I'm not trying to change it. But as someone whose owned both devices I wouldn't want someone to buy the N10.1-12 today without some counter point to consider because you and I have greatly differing opinions.
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You and I are quite the opposite. I bought my N8000 four months ago, and despite being able to get the 2014 version, I decided not to. I will tell you why.
1/ Yes, the 10.1 2014 is more powerful, but it does not make the N8000 any less so. I moved to my N8000 from the sk17i SE Mini Pro, and the sk17i is the same powerful device as the original Galaxy S, specs-wise: 1Ghz single-core and 512MB of RAM. With the power of the -once- most powerful mobile device, it still had things that couldn't be done, why? Because the Galaxy S was the very best they could give you at its time. The best of that time was simply not sufficient, that was why people longed for more (Btw, the sk17i still completed most of the tasks I expected). When I moved to the N8000, which has four times the sk17i's specs, the tasks I gave to my device mostly remained the same: word processing (not as nicely as the sk17i with its hardware keyboard, though), web browsing and email, plus being my personal drawing canvas, and all of those have always been completed without lag. What I mean is, there was a time when even the best they could offer was not adequate, but now there exists a line in specifications that, when you cross it, it does not make any difference no matter how far you cross it. No matter how many years it has been, either. OEMs always compete; specs have outgrown the actual needs for it, CPUs and RAM outgrown what an average PC once has, and screen resolution/dpi gone beyond what the eye can see. All for the privilege to brag that "My device is better than your device", and do so for, like, a month? Now, tell me what you can't do without the 2014 version's specs, some kind of multi-gigs 3D games that you play for a few minutes each day? No problem, I will live without it.
2/ The 10.1 2014 portrays what I personally call 'Google's major design flaw' and what Samsung has to come up with to improvise: the hardware navigation buttons. I have written this multiple times, but again, since Android 4.2+, the tablet UI no longer exists (though developers still manage to pull it out from the depth of codes till its complete removal in 4.4). Since the Tab 3 generation (including the cute Note 8.0) it has been determined that Samsung tablets will operate with Android 4.2+ as the final update, so all these devices are equipped with hardware navigation buttons as preparation. As for the N8000, can you download the harware buttons from the Internet? Of course not. So if a 4.2+ update for the N8000 ever existed, it would stand out from the rest of Samsung tablets and have to be specially made. Maybe the guys at Samsung was preparing the 4.2 update when 4.3 came out. Maybe when they decided to skip 4.2 and moved to developing the 4.3 update, when suddenly 4.4 came out. Maybe they then decided to once again skip the underdeveloped 4.3 update for 4.4, or decided it was not worth the effort and abandoned ship, whatever took them that long to deliver absolutely nothing. But I can tell you, a flagship device like the N8000 having no update till now is not entirely Samsung's fault, much less the N8000's. Blame Google for releasing Android versions so quickly with little changes, user-wise (Okay, having no Tablet UI is a big change here). Whether or not there is an update remains a test of faith, or even an inside joke, remember Half-Life 3?
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With those aside, I agree with you that the 2014 version feels much more premium; it was such a pleasure holding it in my hand. The size, weight and material is admirable, especially from Samsung.
The size of the new unit rocks. And there is about where it ends. I have a TabPro 10.1 here I may return, especially since we will be getting kitkat. While the smaller size and weight is really nice, I have 2 major problems with it....
1) Stupid Physical Home Buttons. Hate it on their phones, hate it on their tabs. Especially annoying on tabs in portrait mode.
2) Our original note 10.1 has far superior multi-windowing, imo. I didn't much care for it on the Note 10.1 2014 (android 4.3) and they've changed it again in 4.4.2 on the *Pro tabs. My concern is that the kitkat update to ours is going to change it to the new method.
TabPro 10.1 returned. Just not convinced the "upgrade" actually is an upgrade to this tablet. In waiting mode
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just ordered mine LTE version (Sony UK) to replace my Tab S 8.4lte. I have only had the Tab S for about a month and am sick to death of it. It will likely be my last Samsung product.
My reasons for switching are many folld and include good experiences with Z1 phone and my current Z3C phone. Especially battery life and the fact that Sony don't layer on gunk over android with a trowel (unlike Samsung).
My Tab S 8.4 is not rooted, and apparently most of the issues I list below can be fixed by rooting and de-bloating, but the fact is I should not have to do this to get a working tablet I run Nova on my devices and have done for over 2 years.. Here is what I like and hate about the 8.4
Like
- That 2K amoled display
- The neat physical attatchment and low profile of the official samsung case
- Its dimensions and weight
- Its nice to watch films on
- Physical buttons save screen space
- Fingerprint scanner works well for me, will miss that on Z3TC
- WiFi performance is superb, both range and speed.
- Multi window, although not many apps support it. Xperia small apps will be good enough
Hate
- Never had such a glitchy experience with an android device, the pregnant pauses are a right wind-up
- Mine is the LTE version, it is always disconnecting while still showing H+ going in/out of flight mode fixes, appears related to LTE/3G handover. My version is the euro lte version which uses the exynos process with an intel add-in chip for LTE. Disabling LTE fixes this issue. US versions have a snapdragon 800 whijch does LTE out of the box.
- Battery life is terrible, the age-old issue with samsung devices and wakelocks preventing it entering deep sleep, it will eat 50% battery in 8 hours sat in a bag doing nothing. It has the same apps installed as my Z3C phone - its a Samsung issue,. My Note 8 had the same issues, I should have !earnt.
- Glitchy when typing quickly, i have seen entire words appear on screen in the wrong order, with words with the first word in a sentence ending up after the two words beforehand. I beleive that this is related to all the glitches.
- Clunky battery saving modes, on the Z3C stamina happens in zero time without fuss, on the Tab S a dialogue appears on screen for several seconds while it turns power saver on or off - what the heck is it doing?
- Hate touchwiz, always use nova launcher, unforunately, you are stuck with bits of touchwiz even using nova. The fischer-price settings page for instance.
Ultimately, its the LTE/3G handover issues and the non stop glitches oh and the wakelock issues that are making me switch
I will have both tabs for a short whil!e after my Z3TC arrives, I will attempt a review.
Nigel
If you have the time, I'd really like that review. I'm still very undecided between the Tab S 8.4 and this tablet to replace my 2012 Nexus 7.
But then I have a feeling that if I go with the Tab S I will put CM on it because of TW. My Xperia SP is still stock with Nova and I'm happy with it so the Z3TC would probably remain stock also.
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If you have the time, I'd really like that review. I'm still very undecided between the Tab S 8.4 and this tablet to replace my 2012 Nexus 7.
But then I have a feeling that if I go with the Tab S I will put CM on it because of TW. My Xperia SP is still stock with Nova and I'm happy with it so the Z3TC would probably remain stock also.
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Same boat. About to make the 2012 mainly a Pandora alarm clock.
I actually find myself quite annoyed at Samsung re the Tab S 8.4 - it could and should have been wonderful right out of the box.
Oh, and I don't know if this is still current, but last I heard, CM was not available for the Tab S 8.4 - it was only available for the Tab Pro 8.4.
http://www.androidauthority.com/com...enmod-installation-on-samsung-tab-s-8-4.4170/
I'm also not sure if CM supports anything other than the wifi versions of the Tab Pro 8.4?? IIRC, the Tab Pro 8.4 has an IPS LCD screen rather than Amoled, and all models feature a snapdragon 800
Edit: Noticed this on above thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-cyanogenmod-11-android-4-4-4-t2835170/page31
Nigel
did you get your sony?
edit: especially interested in wifi range, loudspeakers, battery & camera in comparison.
I also switched to Z3TC today after using tab s 8.4 for about a month.
The reason I switched to Z3TC is that tab s 8.4 is too unstable (often be forced to reboot……) especially when it runs out of memory which I never experienced with z ultra.
So far Z3TC is stable as it has plenty of free memory (thanks to the lower screen resolution?).
The only thing I miss about tab s is the multi-window.
t705
iam also thinking about change my t705.
Battery life a choke.
How is the display agajbst the tab s?
feel the "only" 8 zoll agajnst the 8.4 from samsung ok?
thx
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I actually find myself quite annoyed at Samsung re the Tab S 8.4 - it could and should have been wonderful right out of the box.
Oh, and I don't know if this is still current, but last I heard, CM was not available for the Tab S 8.4 - it was only available for the Tab Pro 8.4.
http://www.androidauthority.com/com...enmod-installation-on-samsung-tab-s-8-4.4170/
I'm also not sure if CM supports anything other than the wifi versions of the Tab Pro 8.4?? IIRC, the Tab Pro 8.4 has an IPS LCD screen rather than Amoled, and all models feature a snapdragon 800
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There unofficial cm 11 ports for both the galaxy tab s 8.4 and 10.1 Wi-Fi models. T700 and T800.
Sony Xperia Tablet Z3 and Samsung Tab S 8.4
So, now i have both tablets and can write my impressions.
The sony tab is really nice to hold, very light and a very good performance.
The display is bright and give good colors. White is white.
Resolution is also right. I could not see any pixels. Its sharp and very smooth to touch.
The tab s has a little bigger display and a higher resolution.Amoled is a part that everyone must look for himself. Many love it, many hate it. I like both displays.
The qualcom cpu from the sony tab has much more power as the samsungs exynos.
No smooth handling. Battery is to small for this tablet. The sony loose 1% accu over 20 hours standby. My tab s loose a lot of accu, if i use it and also in standby.
So, after testings i will stay at sonys xperia tablet 3.
I like this very light powerfull part of hardware. The launcher is smooth and the reactions from the cpu are very fast.
A very good tablet i think.
another big win is the double tap to wake feature (found under the display setting).
My Initial Observations vs Tab S
So, my Z3TC LTE turned up, and after having played with it for a while, my Tab S 8.4 LTE is going on fleabay.
Updated: Video review (warning: long winded!!) http://youtu.be/CMKonSEd7zc
Its hard to describe just how much more responsive the Sony Z3TC is compared to the Samsung tab S 8.4!! This responsiveness makes it so so much more pleasant to use.
I have nothing to say Re the respective UI 'enhancements' done by each manufacturer since I have always used Nova Launcher. My points below are with Nova running on both devices.
Observations from from my early fiddling vs Tab S 8.4 LTE (Exynos EU Version, only US LTE versions of the TAB S get a Snapdragon, EU versions get a Exynos and offload the 3G/4G to an intel add-in chip). The US versions get a Snapdragon because the Intel add-in chip does not support all the bands in use in the US.)
Negatives (vs Tab S)
- Slightly smaller screen (hardly noticeable)
- Bigger Bezels than the Tab S, but these make it easier to hold
- Perhaps not as well weighted for typing in handheld portrait mode vs the tab S
- Screen is not as vibrant as that on the Tab S, but I don't really notice the lower resolution. Hard pressed to see any pixels
- Screen more fingerprint hungry than Tab S
- Case attachment mechanism not as neat at Tab S (official samsung case clips to back via press holders)
- No Flash for rear facing camera
- No fingerprint reader (which I did actually find pretty reliable on the Tab S
- I hate the Sony mechanism for inserting SIM cards - why not a clicky-in/click-out system like everyone else uses?
- The Sony equivilent of Samsung's 'Smart Stay' designed to keep the screen on while you are looking at it does not work as well as on the Samsung
- Tab S LTE was about £30 cheaper (after Sony's £30 rebate)
- More freebies video's/etc with the Samsung Tab S
Positives (vs Tab S)
- Lightweight
- Very high quality build, feels better in the hand than Tab S, good quality plastics, nice tactile rear panel
- Has NFC
- Does not keep disconnecting from the mobile network (requiring flight mode on/off to restore). Tab S LTE (exynos+intel 4G chip, EU version) keept doing this. It was an LTE/WCDMA handover issue I believe
- Battery life is blooming superb vs the Tab S 8.4!
- Way, Way Way faster and more responsive than the Tab S 8.4 - light years ahead, and way less anoying in day-to-day use
- Fuss-free power saving/stamina mode - Tab S required time to switch in/out and was use useless with powersaving on - it was slow enough with it off!!
- Waterproof (USB, sim/SD card slots under waterproof covers headphone sky requires no cover as its internally waterproofed
- Mag charger is easier to attatch than fumbling about with a USB cable - no socket to damage either
- I already had a Z3 Compact phone so this plays nice with that
- Smart connect works well for silencing device when plugged in between certain times. Also does not display permanent status icon unlike Samsung equiv
- Dont need to root the Sony to make it usable!!
Equal
- Nothing to choose between devices re sound quality from built in speakers or a bog standard set of headphones
- Double Tab to turn on is simplicity, but one had that with Samsung's HOME button, and fingerprint login anyway
- Both vendors try to get you to sign up for Sony account or Samsung account junk. I just dont bother logging in to any of it
- Both vendors prevent you from fully uninstalling some of the bloatware they ship
- Both Vendors prevent you from disabling some of the junk they ship
Wishlist
- SONY: Make an official keyboard case for this device - that would make for a good compact road warrior machine
- SONY: Make your official case close with a magnet like Samsungs/3rd party cases. I dont want a trashed screen or an elastic bag around my expensive Tab!
- SONY: 16GB built in (11GB free) is completely stupid in 2014. The base model should be 64GB with the next model at 128GB. Your cost price on your BOM for the additional flash is $almost nothing - dont rob us blind
- SONY: Why no 32GB model for the LTE version?
Nigel
Cool, I figured people would like it. I am disappointed to know that you can't get 32GB internal, but I typically have less apps on my tablets than my phones and my 16GB S4 still has 9GB available. So realistically I'm set with a big memory card for all my music and video. I bought the Tab S 8.4 and returned it the next day because TW and the bloat/lag was awful. Also I couldn't believe that the back cover of the device had waves in it...not very impressive build quality.
yea it would have been nice to have 32GB for the LTE but hopefully lollipop will let us use the SD to store OBB files for games. I orde a 128GB SD for my Z3TC finger cross...
Sunlight comparison
veletron, could you please give us a mini-review of the sunlight readability compared between the two tabs? Thanks!
I live in Scotland where the sun rarely shines! I can test it's waterproofing in the rain very easily though!
I've actually ordered the Z3TC and it's due for delivery on Thursday. However after the luck I've had with my last 3 Android tablets I think I'm just going to get an iPad Air 2. My last 3 Android tablets are in order: LG G Pad 8.3, Nexus 7, Nexus 9. All of them had some issue or another. I had an iPad Air last year until I dropped it off a balcony whilst on holiday, but I never had one single issue with that tablet and it had battery life that Android tablets I've owned could only dream of. I really, really like the look of the Z3TC The size is perfect, build looks good in reviews, I like the fact that's it's water resistant. But I'm just worried that it's going to have one issue or another. I also think Sony should have put a faster and newer CPU in this tablet for the price they're asking. The snapdragon 801 is basically the snapdragon 800 with a slightly tweaked clock speed, I think it's something stupid like 100MHz. This CPU is a year old! And Sony are asking top dollar for this tablet. I know it has 3gb of RAM but that only comes into play if you're running multiple apps of apps that require plenty of RAM. The speed comes from the CPU & GPU and the ones in the Z3TC are a year old as I said. There's phones out now running the snapdragon 805. And tablets running Nvidia Denver and K1. Not to mention Apple's A8 triple core that's even supposed to beat NVidia's offerings. The specs in the Z3TC are dated, yet sony want top dollar for it.
As I said - I really like the look of the Z3TC I wouldn't have ordered otherwise. But I'm just not sure if I'm going to keep it when it arrives. I think the £330 I've paid for it could get me a faster tablet with slightly newer specs. Seems I've got some thinking to do.
Maybe you could take them to the tanning booth! LOL Thanks anyway. In the Florida direct sunshine the S is barely usable and is supposed to be a little brighter than the Sony. Was wondering if the Sony contrast compensation made up for that.
I seem to remember reading that the z3 had the brighter screen, but the tab S will have better contrast due to the amoled screen. Subjectively the z3 screen picks up fingerprints more than the tab S which might be worth bearing in mind in bright sunshine.
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I seem to remember reading that the z3 had the brighter screen, but the tab S will have better contrast due to the amoled screen. Subjectively the z3 screen picks up fingerprints more than the tab S which might be worth bearing in mind in bright sunshine.
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Do you think that you'll be sticking with the Z3 tablet, or are you still on the look out for something else?
Sticking with it. Been using it much more than the tab S cause it's actually pleasant to use! I have a Z3 Compact phone as well, and Sony has made it play nice with this. Simple tethering widget (that let's you see texts and call log on the phone as well), builtin chromecast support, the "throw" stuff works well to mirror to TV too. Oh, and I can mirror phone screen to tablet and control phone from tab remotely. My main use for this so far has been to hand tab to parent and then show pics from phone on tab screen, flicking between them using phone screen. It works well. Video streaming phone to tab works too. I take alot of pics with my phone, and can see my using this to view/delete said pics on the big screen of the tablet without ever having to actually transfer any files to the tablet.