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Hi Guys,
Im trying to decide between the Advent Vega and the Archos 101 8GB?
They both seem to be a good deal for the price.
Im happy with wireless \ Capacitive screens
The Advent has a better CPU, but less memory and is nearly twice the weight.
Im primarily going to be watching videos and using it as an ereader.
Is there anything else I should take into account?
Which is the better of the two?
Thanks
I seriously doubt that the Archos will ever get Honeycomb on it, but the Vega it is a good possibility. That's an easy dealbreaker for me.
Other than that, the Vega bloody rocks...
Vega!
Hi there,
I've tested both of them and the same time and decided to keep the Vega.
The Archos looks finer, but the framed display collects dirt in the corners.
It's not so heavy and has a bigger accu.
The viewing angles are the same (bad, but I can live with that).
My reasons to keep the Vega:
- 1GB DualCore Tegra2 CPU (Archos: SingleCore 1GHz)
- 512MB internal (!!) Memory (Archos: 256MB, the 8GB is external like a sd-card)
- 1080p Playback (Archos: 720p)
- HDMI Out (Archos: Mini-HDMI -> Adpater needed)
- and it's much more fun to use it because it's all smooth, no matter how many applications are running. The Archos becomes laggy when google maps, market, browser are running at the same time.
- And the Vega is highly customizable (custom roms etc.).
But the main disadvantage is the Archos big advantage: accessing NTFS is (by now) not possible with the Vega. On the Archos, just plug in an usb external harddisk with ntfs and it works. But I think it's just a matter of time to get it on the Vega...
Dino
Hope, I could help you a little bit...
Where to buy so, if I dont live in UK? (EU area btw)
Hi,
sethman search for the Point of View Mobii Tegra
It's worthy to remark that at least in Spain, the Advent Vega is cheaper than the POV Mobii (both are sold in stores).
dinompl2 said:
Hi there,
I've tested both of them and the same time and decided to keep the Vega.
The Archos looks finer, but the framed display collects dirt in the corners.
It's not so heavy and has a bigger accu.
The viewing angles are the same (bad, but I can live with that).
My reasons to keep the Vega:
- 1GB DualCore Tegra2 CPU (Archos: SingleCore 1GHz)
- 512MB internal (!!) Memory (Archos: 256MB, the 8GB is external like a sd-card)
- 1080p Playback (Archos: 720p)
- HDMI Out (Archos: Mini-HDMI -> Adpater needed)
- and it's much more fun to use it because it's all smooth, no matter how many applications are running. The Archos becomes laggy when google maps, market, browser are running at the same time.
- And the Vega is highly customizable (custom roms etc.).
But the main disadvantage is the Archos big advantage: accessing NTFS is (by now) not possible with the Vega. On the Archos, just plug in an usb external harddisk with ntfs and it works. But I think it's just a matter of time to get it on the Vega...
Dino
Hope, I could help you a little bit...
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Hi Dino,
Thanks for that useful post, it was helpful.
You are welcome. Have fun with your...
Advent Vega? ;-)
very interesting that dino...has I was contemplating either archos 101 or the advent...as I originally had a ipad...gave to son for xmas...but wanted android..so bought the galaxy tab...but I find the 7" screen to small..guess steve jobs was right...anyway..i think getting honeycomb on the vega is more likely...so got mine ordered and being delivered on wed morning...so will test it out for a week and decide which I decides best...for me that is...so I hope really to sell the galaxy tab...
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Wow, can't beat this deal!!!
http://www.focalprice.com/CE0031B/H...een_Android_40_Tablet_with_3G_WiFi_Black.html
Is 512MB RAM enough for ICS? My brother is looking for a cheap e-reader, I might ask him to look at this if it is good enough..
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Is 512MB RAM enough for ICS? My brother is looking for a cheap e-reader, I might ask him to look at this if it is good enough..
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Ya 512 is fine runs fine on phones with that much atleast
I actually ordered one (couldn't resist) - should have it in 4-6 days - I'll report my thoughts on it.
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dont blame you, it looks really smart
I had to order one too, My transformer has been stepped on a couple times and glitches out a lot, I've been using it as a receiver with my baby monitor but its unreliable. Hopefully this little guy works out.. thanks for the link btw thats a really good deal for an ICS tablet.
They also have white models on that site too, in case you want a white tablet...
Also - I heard that both colors sell out very fast though (just came back in stock), so if you want one, better grab it quick!
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Did you see
Display Technology LCD
Max Resolution 800x480
No GPS
I did see that - not an issue for me - don't use or need GPS at all. And for a 7" tablet, 800x480 is fine with me (I have a few 7" tablets at that resolution as they are fine).
Geez, what do you want for $110?!?!?
Eww, 480x800 is ****ty on a 7" screen...
I'll pass on this... especially with a nexus tablet coming soon for only $40 more and it supposedly has twice the memory, twice the cores, newer architecture CPU, and 1280x800 resolution.
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Is 512MB RAM enough for ICS? My brother is looking for a cheap e-reader, I might ask him to look at this if it is good enough..
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512k is ok for ics but it will be a little slow. My other tablet is an Archos 80 G9 16GB Turbo with 512kb and it cab struggle a little. As long as you keep your multitasking to a minimum, and dont have too many widgets on home screen, it should be ok.
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MY wife also has the Archos 80 G9 Turbo and it has no issues at all with ICS. I don't think she even understands the concept of multi-tasking and I deleted most widgets since she has no use for them anyways.
I own a Novo 7 Basic with basically the same features (except it runs MIPS), and ICS is quite a lot slower with 512MB RAM compared to 1024MB. Its really noticable.
If it was me, Id rather buy an Ainol ELF (or Auroa, hard to get though). 1024x600 res compared to 800x480...
I dont know the price in US$, but they arent much more expensive than the one OP linked.
Of course, if youre in need of 3G, the one in OP is better.
ICS with that music player and keyboard?
Doubt it, but we'll see once they're shipped.
Djhg2000 said:
ICS with that music player and keyboard?
Doubt it, but we'll see once they're shipped.
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So you think they aree straight up lying in the description??? I would think that there is a better chance that he photos are just old or "faked'....
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512 on a phone isn't the same as on a tablet.. (the size makes a difference in processing power right?)
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512 on a phone isn't the same as on a tablet.. (the size makes a difference in processing power right?)
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No the size does not the resolution does. and considering the res is 480x800 which is the same as the original galaxy s i do not think it will be a problem
If anyone is wondering, this Hyundai brand is NOT the same Korean company that makes cars and electronics. It's a Chinese knock off.
Goatshocker said:
I own a Novo 7 Basic with basically the same features (except it runs MIPS), and ICS is quite a lot slower with 512MB RAM compared to 1024MB. Its really noticable.
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It could be the MIPS cpu... ICS seems relatively snappy on the Kindle Fire which has only 512MB but also a much faster cpu.
a.mcdear said:
Eww, 480x800 is ****ty on a 7" screen...
I'll pass on this... especially with a nexus tablet coming soon for only $40 more and it supposedly has twice the memory, twice the cores, newer architecture CPU, and 1280x800 resolution.
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Hi, when did you read about it?
Would like some opinions and have a few questions
I currently have an Acer w4 8 inch win 8 tablet and it serves me pretty well, 64GB, gets 8-9 hrs batter life. The screen is only 1280X800
I'm intrigued by some of these new Chinese Win 8 tablets that offer 1080P+ screen resolutions, dual boot Android, are thin and resemble Ipads and ar pretty cheap most being under $200
It is hard to find some real user experience with them though and some real opinions would be great
So far my search has only come up with two possibilities
Onda V891w 64GB
Chuwi V89 64GB
Are their anymore 64GB variants of these types of tablets? I'm familar with Teclast from their portable audio days and like their hardware but can;t seem to find a model they offer with 64Gb of space. My current Acer w4 is 64GB and I have 30GB free with not much installed so I'd probably be pushing it with a 32GB model right off the bat. The main reason I'd switch from my Acer W4 is to play around with dual boot android and to get a high res screen
So some questions
On the dual boot Tablets do any of them have access to the Google play store? I suspect not so can google play be side loaded and actually run official google play apps?
Does Android run well on these?
How is the battery life on these types of tablets? is 7-10 hrs possible?
Does the high res screen bog down the Baytrail processors compared to the lower res screens?
How are people dealing with a 32GB Win tablet? Don't you run out of space quickly?
I see on alot of the youtube videos some of the menu's in Win 8.1 are in Chinese, is this still the case when you change the language in Windows to English?
Beside the two models I have listed are their any other worth considering that offer 64GB space?
Thanks for any feedback, I have used Chinese brands before in the Portable audio world even loading custom roms etc on them and I'm not opposed to some tweaking if need be.
coiloftears said:
Would like some opinions and have a few questions
I currently have an Acer w4 8 inch win 8 tablet and it serves me pretty well, 64GB, gets 8-9 hrs batter life. The screen is only 1280X800
I'm intrigued by some of these new Chinese Win 8 tablets that offer 1080P+ screen resolutions, dual boot Android, are thin and resemble Ipads and ar pretty cheap most being under $200
It is hard to find some real user experience with them though and some real opinions would be great
So far my search has only come up with two possibilities
Onda V891w 64GB
Chuwi V89 64GB
Are their anymore 64GB variants of these types of tablets? I'm familar with Teclast from their portable audio days and like their hardware but can;t seem to find a model they offer with 64Gb of space. My current Acer w4 is 64GB and I have 30GB free with not much installed so I'd probably be pushing it with a 32GB model right off the bat. The main reason I'd switch from my Acer W4 is to play around with dual boot android and to get a high res screen
So some questions
On the dual boot Tablets do any of them have access to the Google play store? I suspect not so can google play be side loaded and actually run official google play apps?
Does Android run well on these?
How is the battery life on these types of tablets? is 7-10 hrs possible?
Does the high res screen bog down the Baytrail processors compared to the lower res screens?
How are people dealing with a 32GB Win tablet? Don't you run out of space quickly?
I see on alot of the youtube videos some of the menu's in Win 8.1 are in Chinese, is this still the case when you change the language in Windows to English?
Beside the two models I have listed are their any other worth considering that offer 64GB space?
Thanks for any feedback, I have used Chinese brands before in the Portable audio world even loading custom roms etc on them and I'm not opposed to some tweaking if need be.
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That Onda w981v is a failure as most Onda products are. Same thing applies for Chuwi. The only brand I would recommend is Teclast. I got X80h because it was cheap. 125$ shipped with DHL. 32gb is not enough for a Dual-OS tablet. Only 6Gb left. I don't have any problems. Did all the updates and works perfectly. It is fast considering that it has a 17$ Intel Atom processor. Battery isn't great, around 3-4 hours. Games work great. Tested Warcraft 3, Mafia, Quake 3 Arena and hadn't any lags. It has Toshiba eMMC which is fast. If that w981v was a quality tablet, it would have been the best deal ever at just 155$. But I am happy with my X80h.
At the moment I don't see myself paying a cent more for any other Dual-OS tablet than X80h. But that's just me. I do not need 64GB eMMC as I have USB port connected all the time and have 40mb/s speeds via 64GB USB stick. It's just a tablet, not a laptop. And the most important thing is that at the moment I believe X80h is one of the most stable chinese tablets on the market. They have all the high quality components. Chuwi, Onda, Pipo etc are far behind Teclast.
99% is in English
If I was you, I would avoid Teclast. Their hardware build quality is sometimes questionable (look at the X10HD) and their version of a dual boot OS has so many issues. (again look at the complaints by users of X10HD). In terms of build quality, PiPO and Onda are 2 of the best. Ondas dual boot system seems to be much more solid. These two manufacturers actually have good quality tablets that feel worth the money. I'm not sure about Chuwi, Ployer or Cube in terms of build quality.
Honestly if you're going to get dual boot, then you should get 64GB minimum. A dual boot OS on 32GB is a joke. You are limited for space on both sides.
If you want to get a good overview of some of the tablets on the market, then follow @Hendrickson who is a XDA member and runs his own Youtube channel reviewing many of the Chinese tablets. Chris does a great job and you will get more insight into what you should be looking out for.
Yea looks like I'll stick with my Acer w4 64GB Win 8.1 tablet until the cherry trail Tablets are out. The only thing of interest in these were the higher res screen and the Dual boot OS but even a 64GB version would leave the win 8.1 side with very little space. I have about 30GB of free space on my Acer W4 64GB tablet. Also seems like none of these are going to get the 9HR battery life of my Acer as well. These are interesting tablets but they don;t seem ready for primetime.
What is Hendrickson's youtube channel URL?
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
andrewsc said:
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
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Just look at the number of people in this forum still using the T580. It is much slower than the T510 and yet it must satisfy the needs of a lot of people. I was quite happy with mine for years. I now have a T510 with 2gb and a T720 with 4gb. I pretty much use them interchangebly and don't notice much difference. But, then again, I don't use a tablet as a "computer". I have 3 desktop computers at home and only use tablets when I'm "on the go". IMHO, this push for more and more RAM is highly overrated.
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still using the T580. It is much slower than the T510 and yet it must satisfy the needs of a lot of people.
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I get your point. My current tablet is even older than the T580, being an S2 SM-T810 first launched 2015. I'm still using it, and it has 3Gb RAM. It's my main connection to the online world, but it's slowly giving up the ghost. Hence my interest in current alternatives.
Generally, I agree that the pursuit of "bigger, better, faster" is approaching a plateau in Android. But 2Gb RAM is not there yet. My concern about RAM comes from professional life as a Java programmer. A decade ago, I was able to run my webserver application in 1.5Gb Ram. Now it runs out of memory at 1.5, even before coming up. It hardly moves at 2Gb. It comes into its own at 3Gb, but works better with 4Gb. In Java, the objects have gotten bigger in 64-bit devices. Overheads (the preambles of each object) have also become bigger. Same thing in JavaScript which runs inside the browsers. As I'm writing this on my desktop, Google Chrome takes up 1Gb, without any other windows open. I know it can easily go up to 2.5Gb - just a browser.
As is the case so often, software uses up all resources available. For an analogy, I'm reminded of Microsoft Word which was running 25 years ago at exactly the same speed as it does now - admittedly, with fewer features, but those extras are seldom used now.
BTW, the specs on Gsm Arena show that the version of T580 which have an S-Pen do get 3Gb ram. This doesn't say much, because people who bought the T580 as a low-cost option most likely didn't buy it with an S-Pen
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_a_10_1_(2016)-8090.php
You pretty much made my point. As I said, I don't use my tablets as computers and most people don't either. If you are using yours as a professional developer, you should be able to afford a higher end tablet than a T510. The T510 is the "budget" tablet in Samsung's line. You can get a T720 with 6gb.
I'm not developing on Android. The webserver I mentioned runs on Linux, and occasionally on Windows 10 when I'm debugging. That's how I know about the increased memory requirements, and I have good reason to extrapolate this to Android.
Before the lockdown, I spent most of my free time at home with the tablet, trying to relax away from work. Facebook, browsing. So the tasks are light, but at 69 I'm sensitive about ergonomics. Eyes, fingers, palms. The triangular tablet-pillow allows me to hold the tablet more easily. So instead of the 380 grams of my Tab S2, I could go with the slighly heavier current tablets from Samsung.
Yup. I use T-510 with 2GB RAM and 32 GB storage and expanded it with micro SD. Even though it is not silky smooth, it is not frustrating. Apps might take a second or two to load but I mostly read books or watch movies. So, that lag does not make a difference for me.
andrewsc said:
On TobyDeals, there is a 30% difference in price between the 2Gb/32Gb version and the 3Gb/128Gb. I presume 2GB is insufficient for today's software, which may explain why the offer is so cheap.
Has anyone successfully used the T510 with 2GB RAM ? Does it move at any spead ? Or, does it just spend time swapping from memory when switching between apps ?
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I just bought the 3gb/128gb model today from costco for $220, they had $80 off the original price. I can honestly say that so far it's been a smooth experience but I've only played with it for about 30 minutes. I got on xda to look for lineage os support, I already want to get it as vanilla as possible
droid4lif3 said:
I just bought the 3gb/128gb model today from costco for $220, they had $80 off the original price. I can honestly say that so far it's been a smooth experience but I've only played with it for about 30 minutes. I got on xda to look for lineage os support, I already want to get it as vanilla as possible
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Mind saying which Costco you got this? I'm northern CA it's $299. I've been waiting for it to go on sale again but so far it hasn't.
jserio said:
Mind saying which Costco you got this? I'm northern CA it's $299. I've been waiting for it to go on sale again but so far it hasn't.
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I'm in SoCal, found it at the Costco in Norwalk, CA but I also went online and the Costco website had the $80 off deal as well, its not live anymore though.
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
You have some HP models right now and 1500 USD will get you at best RTX2070 and 10875H on HP. I compared here some great models {Mod edit: Commercial link removed}
I recently purchased a Dell XPS 17, and I've been loving it so far. The keyboard is perfect for long typing sessions, and compared with dedicated gaming laptops, I thoroughly enjoy using the keyboard for playing games (so far I've been playing a lot of CS: GO and Resident Evil Village). But the XPS is a little out of your budget because it's starting at $1,749.99
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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I have no experience.
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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For $1500 it can be hard to find a quality laptop with a decent amount of power, but I would suggest looking at Clevo, Sager, or one of the resellers like iBuyPower. Most of these will be fairly modular to make upgrades easier, although quality is questionable and support is nonexistent. Pretty much everything on the market is going to have Windows 11. With Thunderbolt 4, there's the potential for using an external desktop GPU, but I'm going to assume you want an integrated discrete GPU.
Here's an option, OS is extra but you get a RTX 3050 paired with a Ryzen 5 5600H, 16GB 3200, and a 512GB SSD.
Here is another, comes with Windows 11 Home, RTX 3050 Ti, i7 11800H, 16GB 3200, 512GB SSD.
Yet another.
So around $1300, it looks like you'll be looking at a RTX 3050, a mid-upper range CPU, 16GB RAM (which is plenty IMO), and a 512GB SSD. Most of these won't offer a GPU upgrade, but they should use MXM cards which are pretty easy to upgrade. You might be able to get deals on m.2 SSDs and 2.5" HDDs on Amazon.
9 years ago, $1500 got me an Alienware 17: i7 4700MQ, GTX 770M, 16GB 1200, 240GB SATA3 HDD, and Windows Vista. I upgraded to twin 1TB HDDs a few years ago, and am about to upgrade to a 980m and a 512GB SSD this weekend.
If you don't absolutely need a laptop, you can build a decent PC for under $1000 with similar specs to the laptops.
hallil said:
Hello,
I'm looking for a gaming laptop. Since I always had a stationary PC before and had no experience with laptops, I wanted to get some advice from you.
Right now I'm playing CS:GO, Apex Legends and Cod Modern Warfare.
Conditions:
- large display 17 "
- Windows 10 should be included as the operating system
- I would prefer a backlit keyboard
- As described above, it should be suitable for gaming
I am ready to spend up to around $1500.
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You can get a base model Alienware Aurora R13 desktop pc with midrange specs for $1500