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[Q] Sony Xperia Arc Opinions

The Arc looks like a fantastic all around phone in that it has great clear/loud sound/with mega bass. I wonder if this phone is using the Wolfson chip.
Takes great pictures in low light/video is smooth/Hdmi mirroring. Very smooth UI and great colors on the screen.
It has a single core Qualcomm Scorpion MSM8255 processor. I realize its not a Dual Core phone but since they are just entering the market I would prefer to go with a single core 2nd generation phone.
I was thinking of getting the Samsung Galaxy S II but Samsung is still doing updates on the first Galaxy S and I don't trust them re updates.
Sony has stated that they did not handle updates for the X10 very well but promise to do a lot better with updates in regards to the Arc,I believe them.
Furthermore bigger isn;t always better.(Dual Core Vs Single Core)
In the end I want a phone that has clarity/volume in regards to phone calls/Great Camera/Good Video/can play games on it.
Would love to hear your opinions on the Arc Pro/Con.

how could you believe a thief when he tells you he won't steal anything anymore...
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I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.

Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.

SEFanX10i said:
Its not using wolfson chip.
The camera is about as good or maybe 5% better than the X10's. (check GSMArena photocompare)
The Bravia Engine works only with pictures or videos. Rest of the time its just like any other TFT LCD.
Internal memory is a measly 500 mb.
I personally don't think the Arc justifies its price tag, the Neo has everything the Arc has but at a much cheaper price.
Oh and like the X10, it will take months to crack the bootloader, so no custom ROMs.
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apparently this is not the case. The hard lockdown on devices in the past has made it hard even for SE to upgrade the phones. The new phones are said to have a more open bootloader to make it easier to update

+1 for the Neo (how could SE have stuffed up and not given their flagship model a front facing camera.. but given the cheaper model the same fancy new screen and camera chip and also given it a Front camera!) are they really that stupid?
I'm going buy an HTC or Samsung next..and if not them a motorola.. after those choices.. I might consider a Neo
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And so here I am on a brand new Arc. Had it for a day or so and must say it's been very smooth so far. My latest phone was an X10i so this is not terribly different...
Anyway, first impressions are very good. Great screen. Native Exchange integration is perfect (except I can't sort contacts by other than first name, believe this is an Android quirk). WiFi tethering was very smooth. DLNA was hitch-free. In-call sound quality is very good, I'd say better than the other Xperias I've had (apparently it has a little mic that takes up background noice to cancel it out, though I think I'll need to fly with a head-set to experience this properly). Why they've switched the "menu" and "back" buttons around I can't understand for the love of me, but maybe there's a reason...
Overall, with my short experience it's been great, so far. Certainly a phone I would recommend to any non-X10 user and probably to those that have X10s, as well.
Cheers for now/M
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what a lucky person!!! i love the phone so much. you must be very close to SE. so can you please advise when it will be released. it think april is too late to wait. im keen to have the phone right away.
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A video review from a guy at ESATO forums:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlIiD5he1S8
My thoughts...very nice design, good screen and very good camera, the bad? it lags too much.

oh wow, I just actually clicked on the video LOL I know that person personally since he's in Thailand. Like both him/I said, wait for the final firmware. That unit he has is still a very early prototype, no where near the final. Some of the hardware isn't even implemented yet, you can tell which . Cheers

joplin48 said:
I'm looking for opinions on this phone not looking for stuff like you can never trust a thief.
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look,when you talking about you don't trust sgs which is only 3 months younger than x10 and got 2.2 update almost the same time as x10 got 2.1, and knowing that SE announced x10 would never receive 2.2 but samsung never claim they won't provide further version, but then you said you trust in SE?
i don't think you need any oppinion at all.
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Got to play the arc, neo and play last night, and I also saw the arc at CES. Its certainly improved since then, and huggee fast first time round.
One thing I noticed is that the widget overview is now smooth, no lag like before.
As for neo vs arc, there are lots of similarities, but when you pick the phones up the arc feels better, special somehow. The neo feels normal... Also the display is better on the arc.
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Does arc support 3g video call?
GN Multimedia - X10i

Nope. No front-view camera.

McHan said:
Nope. No front-view camera.
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Thanks. So sad... really 3g video call feature.
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Neo vs Arc..... I'll say Arc for the design, never used front cameras and don't see a reason to use it
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i am really happy eith it, is fast and has one of the most important thnigs to me... design, the galaxy brand look like crap and are based on iphone design

There are Differences on Arc and Neo not just the Looks
Arc
>Clear Black Panel(No Air Gap, Great Sunlight Legibility, 20% more Brighter than Neo)
>Lightweight(117g) vs (126g)
>Slim Arc Body(8.7mm~10.5mm) vs (13mm)
>Screen Size 4.2" vs 3.7"
Neo
>Front Facing Camera
>Better Hardware Positions(Camera Sensor, Shutter Key)

DHD vs Nexus S vs Xperia Arc

Which you guys think is better?
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Xperia Arc is off the menu straight away because it is a Sony Ericsson phone. I had an X10 once and that was a bad enough experience to keep me away forever.
Nexus S isn't bad but I don't need NFC, you can't run Sense on it, and development section in general seems a little bland. The lack of a micro sd slot is also annoying. In its defence it has great (for a smart phone) battery life, 16 gb of rom (much faster than an sd card, and front facing camera (not that need one). It has less ram than desire hd and a lower resolution camera.
Desire HD wins. It has the most ram, highest resolution camera, full metal body, and the killer - Sense. Also Leedroid has this phone. Victory by KO.
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What kind of response did you expect by asking this on DHD forums?

Foladko said:
What kind of response did you expect by asking this on DHD forums?
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Having said that Desire HD FTW .

You should try them all in a shop because nobody knows what kind of smartphone you want to have.
I ony can say that I'm very happy with my HTC Desire HD.

Foladko said:
What kind of response did you expect by asking this on DHD forums?
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That's right everyone on this forum knows the answer already.
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imo, samsung are going to run the smartphone market for the foreseeable future, just because of the innovation of the company, htc's devices are same old same old, where as samsung has just developed a brand new display called samoled plus, a new type of superfast ddr2 ram, a brand new chipset to replace the hummingbird, ive also seen reports there working on a 250gb nand chip looks like it's samsung that have been quietly brilliant, while HTC was acting cocky lol

What about motorola atrix?
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the_ahmadzais said:
What about motorola atrix?
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Hardware wise it rocks. Unfortunately Motorola Blur is terrible. If it don't get some aosp custom rom living it's dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.
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the_ahmadzais said:
What about motorola atrix?
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imo, it's not a option... first of all, it's a Motorola (and it says too much), and after all: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/update-on-the-atrix-root-signed-motorola/

Does DHD has gingerbread? And how easy is it to put rom on DHD? Cause once I tried to put rom on my wife's desire. I messed the motherboard. Luckily telus repair for me put new motherboard. I have x10 I never bricked it. *knock on wood* lol
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if you can read, and fallow simple instructions, like: press and hold button or type that... it's pretty hard to brick this devices, but of course, there is always a chance...
official gingerbread with sense is coming in q2, in anycase you can flash it with cm7, i used it for a while, but i really missed sense... =o)

If u love sense, of course buy a htc device....but I 'd prefer incredible S, since it's a desireHD with a plastic cover (metal it's fragile, can peel and it's a mess at the first fall) and it's got a slcd screen.
I own a dhd and I want to sell it as soon as possible in order to buy an amoled nexusS.
main problem of dhd is how it sux on basic functions. I use h3g as provider, that works on umts, and my dhd is 50% on roaming on gsm tim, so I can't use internet connection...whereas my stupid dummy 80€ huawei ideos sports a strong antenna and never goes on roaming.
another problem for me is the battery. sense roms have a kernel that doesnt drain battery, but I love cyanogen roms...and they drain battery.
wot about loudspeaker and screen? loudspeaker is completely crap, try to use navigator while driving a car with open windows...
lcd is washed out comparing to slcd and amoled....
I know that these basic functions are improved on nexusS...only thing I 'll miss, it's notification led, but I know it's an amoled and it's possible to display such a notification pixel on the black screen while saving battery.
other brand, is better don't think about them...they all have strong hardware with very bad user experience. and I think it's better don't run on a dual core for a while

my two penny'th worth..
1. SE - dont make me laugh sony hate consumers, they want to tell you what you can do with your device and dont even think about rooting it only one thing I can say to this option "46 DC EA D3 17 FE 45 D8 09 23 EB 97 E4 95 64 10 D4 CD B2 C2"
2. Nexus S - feels like a cheap plastic toy, no SD slot, that'll make sticking a custom rom on interesting, the rest of the specs make it sound like a downgrade from the SGS
3. DHD - a no brainer to my mind, there are no hardware issues with my device speaker etc are fine it's by and away the best phone i've ever had and i cant see a device on the immeadiate horizon that could get it out of my hands

Thanks Bro for changing my mind was gonna wait for atrix. Does DHD custom rom do copy and paste?
ghostofcain said:
my two penny'th worth..
1. SE - dont make me laugh sony hate consumers, want to tell you what you can do with your device only one thing I can say to this option 4"6 DC EA D3 17 FE 45 D8 09 23 EB 97 E4 95 64 10 D4 CD B2 C2"
2. Nexus S - feels like a cheap plastic toy, no SD slot, that'll make sticking a custom rom on interesting, the rest of the specs make it sound like a downgrade from the SGS
3. DHD - a no brainer to my mind, there are no hardware issues with my device speaker etc are fine it's by and away the best phone i've ever had and i cant see a device on the immeadiate horizon that could get it out of my hands
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the_ahmadzais said:
Thanks Bro for changing my mind was gonna wait for atrix. Does DHD custom rom do copy and paste?
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Yeah we got copy and paste over here on CM7 we got gingerbread too

Yay awesome. Currently I have x10 and my provider is sending me iphone 4 and I'm gonna sell it and buy the dhd. Really excited!!!!!
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Official Gingerbread is not far away, by that I mean 1-2 months. The current froyo Sense is very nice anyway. We have the enhanced copy and paste already.
Sent from my super slick Android device.

Is copy and paste easy like iphone 3gs?
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And I'm in Canada and telus website says it's super lcd is it true? Cause gsmarena says lcd
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Samsung Galaxy S2 review (first impressions) from point of view of Xperia X10 user

[LONG POST WARNING ]
there might be some typos and some unintentional things (tone of writing this may be)... I do not mean to offend any one... u can consider the following as a random blog post not targetting anyone
please dont laugh.. i am not good at these kind of things...
Ok now before u start flaming and start fanboy-wars on this, I suggest that u read the full content…
I AM NOT A SE FANBOY!
I have tried to provide an unbiased review of Samsung Galaxy S2 from point of view of a Xperia X10 user/android user… oh btw I am writing this considering that u use custom kernels on X10!
Some background… I have primarily used Symbain phones for almost 4-5 yrs… just last year I bought my first android phone the Xperia X10! Since then I have bought many androids for myself, my friends & family… I have personally used Motorola Milestone, SE Xperia Arc, LG Optimus One and now just last week I got the Samsung Galaxy S2 (SGS2)…
this will be sort of comparison between SGS2 and X10 and my personal opinion regrading both these devices as they CURRENTLY stand
[ THE SPECS ]
The SGS2 is a beast!
The most significant difference is the screen… Super AMOLED PLUS which quite frankly is THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DISPLAY I have EVER USED! It just blows away the LCD/LED displays (compared to X10 which has LCD display) Now before some ppl catch my throat saying that “colors are not ‘natural’” let me share with u that there is a setting provided by Samsung called “Background Effect” which basically can allow u to adjust the saturation & contrast of the images on screen! For the “natural color” minded folks u can use the “movie” option… others can enjoy the “Standard” or better “Dynamic” options…
It has 4.3’’ screen which is slightly bulky in hand and little bit hard to grip (compared to X10 which has 4’’ screen) frankly the difference is only noticeable if u are watching videos…
It has 1.2 Ghz dual core ARM-9 chips (compared to X10 single core 1 Ghz Arm-8 chip)
very powerful dedicated GPU [Mali-400] which will handle any of the latest games u can throw at it! (compared to Adreno 200 on X10)
sgs2 has 836 MB User accessible RAM (compared to 280 MB on X10)
The internal memory is eMMC so there is actually an microSD card used for system, data, etc… so the actual usable /data partition is 2GB!!!! (compared to 465MB on X10)
Also the internal sdcard has 12 GB free space [I have the SGS2 16GB version] AND there is room for additional external SDCARD!!! (compared to 8GB supplied by SE for X10)
SGS2 supports simultaneous 10 point finger recognition! Take that multi touch games!
SGS2 has lots cool features like HDMI output/USB On-the-GO [but u will need to buy these adapter/cables separately]
Front facing camera and fullHD (1920x1080p) recording are few other perks (x10 can do 720p recording)
SGS2 has 1650 mAh battery compared to 1500 mAh of X10
SGS2 has HSPA+ (21 Megabit/sec) compared to HSDPA (7.2 Megabit/sec) on X10
And ofcourse SGS2 comes with unlocked bootloader (there is a thing called download-mode binary counter which keeps a tab on how many time u flashed using the flashing tool ODIN, though this can be reset using a hack )
[ ACTUAL USAGE ]
SGS2 just comfortably cruises thru menus/etc… no lag whtsoever... menu scrolling/web browsing anything u throw at it SGS2 will just devastate it
Using live wallpaers, having 10 tabs open in browser, multitasking with a game running in the background and then scrolling thru menus it doesn’t LAG!
[ THE GOODIES ]
Ok now comes the dev aspect, with SGS2 being adapted by so many users/devs, within just 2 months of release, there are already tons of ROMs/Kernels/themes/etc…
U have the freedom to choose overclock/undervolt/overvolt kernels… there are even apps to control voltage of every frequency set! U can overclock/regulate the GPU too! Some guys over at SGS2 forums run it at 1.9Ghz without a hitch! (compared to X10 which only is able to handle 1.1 Ghz overclock)
btw this doesnt mean that i dont respect/honor our devs here at X10 sub-forums... i have a HUGE respect for them and all that they have achieved and are currently doing/working on... they have done / are doing a great job to make our terribly limited device (cause of manufacturer policies) awesome & rocking
[ THE BAD / UGLY ]
Ok the screen resolution on SGS2 is really bad... I mean seriously, a 4.3’’ screen deserves 960×540 (qHD) resolution not 800x480… sure u can change dpi but then that’s NOT TRULY changing resolution…
There is no hardware camera button! It is very funny but seriously I miss the camera button…
when will they get good XENON flash in top end android devices? i really miss the xenon flash from my old Nokia N82
another problem is that there is NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS
A lot of defective display units are there… I myself had this problem and had to get it replaced with a new piece… also many users at SGS2 forums have reported this…
Device heats up even using stock FW… I was playing Modern Combat 2 for 15-20 mins and I could feel the back of the device getting really warm…
NOW THE BIGGEST ISSUE there are not many apps currently available which can make use of dual core processors… may be multi-threaded/multi-core optimized apps will take time to get in but currently not many apps can make use of this…
[ MY VIEWS ]
Now from this point forward are my personal views/opinions... I am not telling u to do something… this is just wht I personally feel… if u wish u can read this whole thing and say “wht a bunch of crap… he doenst know wht he is talking abt” I don’t mind that, those are ur views these are mine
The final decision if u want to buy a new phone ALWAYS is with YOU AND YOU ONLY!
As I said before SGS2 is a great device but there are some thing to consider before u UPGRADE… keep in mind that the following views/opinions are only valid if u are upgrading from an X10 to a SGS2… if u are upgrading from sub-1Ghz phone then this will not matter...
I wouldn’t call an upgrade from X10 to SGS2 a BIG GAME CHANGING thing… there is not much difference in 4.3’’ and 4’’ screen sizes… also if u have been using custom kernels on X10 (fps uncapped /overclocked) then SGS2 feels slightly smoother… the screen/image quality is obviously better on the SGS2... But honestly 16million colors (SGS2) vs 65k colors (x10) is not that great a difference, it is only noticeable in some images/videos which have heavy gradation…
The big issues is that currently there are not many apps that can use this much power… then there is the practical issue… see u can play games/overclock/etc for some time BUT most of the time (>80%) u will be running the device @ 800Mhz to 200 Mhz (lowest speed which can be set)…
Though if u are upgrading from a 600Mhz phone (with < 3.5’’ screen size) then SGS2 is a TOTALLY different experience…
One thing to keep in mind currently most of the issues faced by us X10 users (like camera not fully working in 2.2+ custom roms, stability of custom kernels) are related to the restrictions imposed by SE… thing may improve once we get the GB update…
[ FINAL REMARKS ]
So keeping all of the above in mind here are my recommendations
Why u shouldn’t jump to dual-core bandwagon? (AS OF NOW)
If you still have a few months left on you contract and if u don’t mind a few sec delay/slight lag I recommend that u WAIT FOR NEXT generation phone… I am not talking about quad core/etc… frankly CURRENTLY there is just no point for a 2+ core phone… even 2 cores is an overkill! What I suggest is that u wait for next gen technology (28nm fabrication) which will greatly improve battery life… hold on till the apps/games can actually make use of the tremendous processing power packed into today’s dual core phones…
Who should go for this upgrade?
u just liked it
u are upgrading for < 1Ghz phones
u have the money and don’t mind spending that much for the BEST PHONE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE
u are a POWER USER and do heavy multitasking, need to play latest games at max frame rate
u want an additional phone to use (like me )
u are stuck on X10 stock 2.1 rom and don’t want to install custom roms/kernels
u are totally frustrated with the X10 and don’t want to wait for GB upgrade
why currently u shouldn’t “upgrade” to any other single core phone?
See single core phones are already very old hardware… there is no point spending so much money on a single core phone which will be outdated in next 6 to 8 months (tops)…
Instead wait for a few more months and then get a dual core phone
I hope u guys appreciate this and it helps those who are currently planning to u buy a new phone…
P.S.: I hope u have noticed that I keep saying CURRENTLY, cause all that I have psoted above (my views/opinions) is only valid for things UPTO THIS POINT (July 8, 2011 01:00 AM GMT+05:30)… technology is an every changing thing and wht is best today wont be the best (or even good) tomorrow!

WOW, nice...thanks for the review! I myself own a X10 but the current news of GB 2.3.3 & unlocked bootloader is really awesome!
Enjoy your S2 buddy

I tried a SGS2 couple of days back and only one thing annoyed me the most. The home button takes ages to wake the phone up from sleep. I know it is nothing but it annoyed me a lot Apart from that nothing to complain. I will surely get it once I can go to store
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I tried a SGS2 couple of days back and only one thing annoyed me the most. The home button takes ages to wake the phone up from sleep. I know it is nothing but it annoyed me a lot Apart from that nothing to complain. I will surely get it once I can go to store
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i disabled home screen waking it was getting annoying... better to use power button to lock/unlock device...

load of c**p!
a) dual core is using more battery than single core.
b) dual core price is much larger than single core + no full usage of dualcore.
c) single core processors won't be outdated. NEVER! Why? For example in Croatia
i payed like half my pay for year old X10 and my pay is like 600 usd per month, imagine how much would cost dual core?
Conclusion dual-core is for gamer freaks... / ppl that don't get that "lag" here or there is normal thing from pc to smart phone...
Find me one pc / phone that has never had any lag in any game / program and i will ... something with stone ...
But review is ..... long and detailed ..... and very usefull! Thanks!

Very nice and thorough review, thanks a lot!
Turns out that those were exactly my thoughts too. My cousin bought the SGS 2 and even though it feels great in use, I want to wait another year, save some serious money and buy the top phone available then.
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i disabled home screen waking it was getting annoying... better to use power button to lock/unlock device...
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Hence another problem of pressing volume button instead of power. I had it for a day and a half to play with it. BTW was it just me or it gives an alarm that battery is full!?? Dunno why Samsung made it that way.
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load of c**p!
a) dual core is using more battery than single core.
b) dual core price is much larger than single core + no full usage of dualcore.
c) single core processors won't be outdated. NEVER! Why? For example in Croatia
i payed like half my pay for year old X10 and my pay is like 600 usd per month, imagine how much would cost dual core?
Conclusion dual-core is for gamer freaks... / ppl that don't get that "lag" here or there is normal thing from pc to smart phone...
Find me one pc / phone that has never had any lag in any game / program and i will ... something with stone ...
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agree with u on some aspects BUT here is some info if u didnt already know...
dual core doenst use more battery... it only kicks in after certain speeds... so if u are idling (say 500mhz/200mhz) then only single core is active... only when u need more processing the other core (s) get active... something similar to turbo boost but the other way
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Very nice and thorough review, thanks a lot!
Turns out that those were exactly my thoughts too. My cousin bought the SGS 2 and even though it feels great in use, I want to wait another year, save some serious money and buy the top phone available then.
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great decision! till then the android market will have sufficient apps to make use of that much power...
OH BTW currently andorid doesn't native-ly support gpu based screen/UI/framework acceleration...
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Hence another problem of pressing volume button instead of power. I had it for a day and a half to play with it. BTW was it just me or it gives an alarm that battery is full!?? Dunno why Samsung made it that way.
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i know! its damn annoying... pulser_g2 has a dev thread going on regarding that!

What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.

Thanks for this great review...all i can said is that you are perfectly right about dual core phones advantages! have you already tried to compare arc display with sgs2 one?and how much better is arc compared to x10? thanks doom..nice work!
Cheers
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What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.
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well the problem is that iOS supports gpu based acceleration of UI! which android doesnt! android depends completely on CPU for UI rendering which causes this lag... u can check even on HC this is a problem... BUT once the gpu acceleration based apis are in place then OH MAN will these things fly!
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Thanks for this great review...all i can said is that you are perfectly right about dual core phones advantages! have you already tried to compare arc display with sgs2 one?and how much better is arc compared to x10? thanks doom..nice work!
Cheers
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yes dude i have compared X10 / Arc / SGS2 display... wanted to compare with iPhone4 and SGS1 but couldnt get hold of those devices...
let me put it plainly SGS2 display IS THE BEST U CURRENTLY CAN HAVE...
the colors are much better on SGS2 display (again this is personal preference)...

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well the problem is that iOS supports gpu based acceleration of UI! which android doesnt! android depends completely on CPU for UI rendering which causes this lag... u can check even on HC this is a problem... BUT once the gpu acceleration based apis are in place then OH MAN will these things fly!
yes dude i have compared X10 / Arc / SGS2 display... wanted to compare with iPhone4 and SGS1 but couldnt get hold of those devices...
let me put it plainly SGS2 display IS THE BEST U CURRENTLY CAN HAVE...
the colors are much better on SGS2 display (again this is personal preference)...
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So..the only way to have the better screen is super amoled??cause if you want the best phone you need this kind of screen but it is made only by few manufactures..like samsung and some htc..so there not much choise!
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So..the only way to have the better screen is super amoled??cause if you want the best phone you need this kind of screen but it is made only by few manufactures..like samsung and some htc..so there not much choise!
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see thats the thing... its not the case that Super AMOLED is the best...
its more on personal preference... w.r.t. display u can ur self check out SGS1, Nokia N8, SGS2, Arc, HTC Sensation...

Very nice review, i'd love to buy the sgs 2 too but the price is just tooo big

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Very nice review, i'd love to buy the sgs 2 too but the price is just tooo big
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just wait for a few months (2-3) till then the prices would go down by 15-20%... also that will be time then next gen processors hit the market...
@all
almost forgot... another issue of SGS2...
NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS

Also I heard the camera is not as good as Arc's? Atleast it records video in 1080p though

Well SE in hardware is always in time of the needs if you can see arc was the best smart phone in 2011 above SGS2 and now there is a dual core xperia smartphone on the target but of course it will come when the software is totally ready for that i would like to see the xperia duo

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What I find absolutely stupid about Android as a whole is, that you need a frigging dualcore phone to run it smooth 'ala iOS. I mean smooth as in the UI running at a constant framerate without any dips at all. That was the only reason I was looking up to Apple's devices for a while.
Then SGS2 happened. Now I know what my next phone is.
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ios runs smoothly because it's a much simpler platform than android. If apple ever get the balls to revamp their os to support homescreens and widgets, I am pretty sure the performance would dip significantly.
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Also I heard the camera is not as good as Arc's? Atleast it records video in 1080p though
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I took some photos with the SGS II and the quality was superb.
Lightning conditions were not good, but still there was very little noise,
the picture was sharp and the colors vivid.
Only thing is, there was some short of pink hue in the corners of the picture.
I don't know if that's the case for this phone, or that one was faulty.
Also, the flash is VERY BRIGHT!!!!!!
What do you think about the camera Doom?

[ THE BAD / UGLY ]
Ok the screen resolution on SGS2 is really bad... I mean seriously, a 4.3’’ screen deserves 960×540 (qHD) resolution not 800x480… sure u can change dpi but then that’s NOT TRULY changing resolution…
There is no hardware camera button! It is very funny but seriously I miss the camera button…
when will they get good XENON flash in top end android devices? i really miss the xenon flash from my old Nokia N82
another problem is that there is NO LED FOR NOTIFICATIONS
A lot of defective display units are there… I myself had this problem and had to get it replaced with a new piece… also many users at SGS2 forums have reported this…
Device heats up even using stock FW… I was playing Modern Combat 2 for 15-20 mins and I could feel the back of the device getting really warm…
NOW THE BIGGEST ISSUE there are not many apps currently available which can make use of dual core processors… may be multi-threaded/multi-core optimized apps will take time to get in but currently not many apps can make use of this…
Nice review, but these things made me happy that I haven't bought a SGS2 yet!! I would miss the camera button, led, and especially devective unit which are much of them... Very much... Great phone, but lacks of the most standard functions of a smartphone... Maybe that's why the phone is so thin... Also I've heard from many SGS2 users that there is a some kind of yellow shine on the left side of the screen. Super phone, but little things that aren't worth for this price... It's a smart choise from me to wait till any quad-core phone, and I really hope there will come a very sexy Nexus Quad-core phone. Camera is also nice, but for real recording get a camcorder LOL.
Before fanboys start screaming at me, PHONE IS GREAT but just these things...
And DooM, don't let our negative things/or things the x10 has but SGS2 not have spoil the fun. Enjoy your new super phone!
EDIT:
Doom, you also talked about higher resolution. Well, that's not possible on AMOLED screens. They can only support up to what the SGS2 now has...

I want to buy,Xperia arc S but hesitant .

hi for all
i like Sony Ericson Xperia arc S But I am afraid that I buy because of the small internal memory .
Do you already considered this problem for a special and I am a fan of a lot of app installed.
I need to advise you to me .
Thank you
Majdi star

I have 100-120 apps installed on my Arc and have 121MB left (with cleared cache). It's enough in my opinion but it could be some more.
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Iv had my arc s for a few days now and its great. Upgraded from x10i. Internal space shouldn't be a problem if you move the larger apps to sdcard. The the speed of this arc is awesome
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arc is good but Galaxy S2 is better
Edit:-but i have not personally used the galaxy S2....

SGS II is the best phone out there atm, but he asked about Arc S

majdi star said:
hi for all
i like Sony Ericson Xperia arc S But I am afraid that I buy because of the small internal memory .
Do you already considered this problem for a special and I am a fan of a lot of app installed.
I need to advise you to me .
Thank you
Majdi star
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I don't know about the s but the arc sucks I'm down to about 60mb and maybe about 80 downloaded apps and about 90% is on the sd card
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How many apps do you really need.
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harlz said:
How many apps do you really need.
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I thought that was the key to getting a smart phone?
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harlz said:
How many apps do you really need.
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So having 10 apps is a lot? That's how many I have on the phone not sd
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it depends on what you are looking for in a smartphone..
the sg2 is much powerful then the arc..
but the arc is the most beutiful device ever!!!
take the arc!!!

Using CM 7 frees up a large amount of memory. I have put 31 apps on my phone since Monday (10 on the SD card) and I have 290MB free internally. With CM you can also force apps onto the SD card but I guess some of the apps could have problems if this was done - with 290MB free I have no need to do it.

Flo95 said:
I have 100-120 apps installed on my Arc and have 121MB left (with cleared cache). It's enough in my opinion but it could be some more.
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HOW?! I haven't installed much apps and only have 52 mb free. Top 5 big apps are Google+, Adobe Air, Angry Birds, MtpApp (what is that for?), Adobe Flash Player...

I'm using the native App2SD, that's it
But I don't have much big games in the phone memory, that helps
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Are you gonna install all apps in the market? If you do then it will be a problem considering the memory size...
If just a few apps that it shouldn't be a problem as a lot of apps can be moved to microSD.

In terms of rooting the Arc S, is it the same as the standard Arc?

Flo95 said:
SGS II is the best phone out there atm, but he asked about Arc S
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Stop with those flat utterances...
Best 3 phones of the year are SE Xperia Arc, HTC Sensation and the SGS2.
Now we all know that the arc is better than the HTC (in particular Sensation).
Concerning the SGS2 the only thing that makes it better than Arc is the 1GB RAM. Thats all.
Leave all the crap about the dual core at a side its still not at full use as it should be. I still can play all the games available with great performance, as long as the specific dual core games are not released the only big difference between the 2 phones is the 512 extra RAM on SGS2. It will next year when the games and apps will use the full capacity of dual core (and then the Nozomi will be released).
I don't deny that the SGS2 is faster than the Arc, now don't get me wrong, I refuse flat statements that make the Arc look like rubber toy for 3 year old - because its not and because the Arc has something that SGS2 doesn't (and i believe its still more important) it has PERSONALITY.
You might say 'its an Emo comment' but think for a second if the majority says SGS2 is best you buy SGS2, if the majority says jump you jump, cut you veins you cut...then again where is your personality?
What is more important for you?
You tell me.

Touranaga said:
Stop with those flat utterances...
Best 3 phones of the year are SE Xperia Arc, HTC Sensation and the SGS2.
Now we all know that the arc is better than the HTC (in particular Sensation).
Concerning the SGS2 the only thing that makes it better than Arc is the 1GB RAM. Thats all.
Leave all the crap about the dual core at a side its still not at full use as it should be. I still can play all the games available with great performance, as long as the specific dual core games are not released the only big difference between the 2 phones is the 512 extra RAM on SGS2. It will next year when the games and apps will use the full capacity of dual core (and then the Nozomi will be released).
I don't deny that the SGS2 is faster than the Arc, now don't get me wrong, I refuse flat statements that make the Arc look like rubber toy for 3 year old - because its not and because the Arc has something that SGS2 doesn't (and i believe its still more important) it has PERSONALITY.
You might say 'its an Emo comment' but think for a second if the majority says SGS2 is best you buy SGS2, if the majority says jump you jump, cut you veins you cut...then again where is your personality?
What is more important for you?
You tell me.
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+1 to that

I totally understand you. I think so, too.
I could have bought the SGS II but I didn't...
Arc is really awesome. The SGS II is a bit faster but that's it. And the Arc has an outstanding design that nothing else has. Arc with more RAM --> best phone
But today most people cry for the highest specs...
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it still amuse me when people say sg2 is better then arc
i mean, just face it. s2 is fat, and arc is so damn sexy
all the samsung galaxy series looks the same, its boring imo.
spec wise, s2 has dual-core, but who needs it (for now)
you don't need dual core to play angry birds or tetris or chess or other games that you get from the android market.
sure dual core is faster, if you are browsing the web, especially web that loads flash animation and stuff... but really, the diference is only a few seconds, no big deal..

Touranaga said:
Stop with those flat utterances...
Best 3 phones of the year are SE Xperia Arc, HTC Sensation and the SGS2.
Now we all know that the arc is better than the HTC (in particular Sensation).
Concerning the SGS2 the only thing that makes it better than Arc is the 1GB RAM. Thats all.
Leave all the crap about the dual core at a side its still not at full use as it should be. I still can play all the games available with great performance, as long as the specific dual core games are not released the only big difference between the 2 phones is the 512 extra RAM on SGS2. It will next year when the games and apps will use the full capacity of dual core (and then the Nozomi will be released).
I don't deny that the SGS2 is faster than the Arc, now don't get me wrong, I refuse flat statements that make the Arc look like rubber toy for 3 year old - because its not and because the Arc has something that SGS2 doesn't (and i believe its still more important) it has PERSONALITY.
You might say 'its an Emo comment' but think for a second if the majority says SGS2 is best you buy SGS2, if the majority says jump you jump, cut you veins you cut...then again where is your personality?
What is more important for you?
You tell me.
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Don't forget about the lovely cracks in the arc
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Looking for new phone.

Well I have X8 one full year and now I'm looking for new phone.
I have eye on Xperia Mini but I don't know should I really but it at the end I'm looking something like X8 so if you have any suggestions please post it.

A goof option for me is the Xperia mini pro,its looks like x8 whit all its weaks points improved,just like processor,camera,etc...and it have a phisical keyboard!

XperianPro said:
Well I have X8 one full year and now I'm looking for new phone.
I have eye on Xperia Mini but I don't know should I really but it at the end I'm looking something like X8 so if you have any suggestions please post it.
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I got the ray it only 210pound in the the o2 shop it faster than the iPhone 4s on loading apps.
screen is clear than the iPhone.
it has 1ghz CPU ram 512 free 8mps can it got gd2.3 super1click working just no fourm on xda fully working sense 3.5 working on it. It is a good fighter for the HTC sensation it is all most as fast as it as I no my wee bro has it and now he is moving over to the ray the iPhone is my wife's and the ray kick ass if u no any1 with 1 just ask them to show you it you like
super.sense 3.5 on x8

If you have some money to spend you should get the Xperia Ray, for me it is very good, but i love the Arc S and if my parents give me permission to buy it, i will buy it, i want a big screen, and a very good Price/Quality'n'Performance relationship, and i have that in Arc S
Some Xperia Ray Specifications:
- Small size, it is easy to use with one hand, like X8
- A High Resolution, wich gives you an almost Retina Display (as the iPhone 4)
- 1GHz processor, fast enought
- 512MB Ram, suficient
- Slim, i like slim phones, X8 isn't slim
- GingerBread 2.3.4 with all his good features, like XLoud, Bravia Engine, Swipe Keyboard (?) + T9 Keyboard (?) (adjustable in settings)
- SE will give it the newest Android ICS
- 8MP Camera, with 720p video recording
- 4GB microSD card included

I might choose x10.
Although it is an old phone, but still better hardware than many almost same range price phone.

Im liking neo. It has exmor camera. Although im still thinking whether to pick neo or ray.
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XperianPro said:
Well I have X8 one full year and now I'm looking for new phone.
I have eye on Xperia Mini but I don't know should I really but it at the end I'm looking something like X8 so if you have any suggestions please post it.
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I would rather go with xperia pro,it's really fast and have a physical keyboard but slimmer than x8,I suggest that you reconsider the xperia mini because of its buggy camera,but you could get lucky by getting a non buggy camera model like some of the other lucky people

Sorry to barge in this thread
But yesterday I lost my beloved X8. Obviously can't think of any other phone than Android, the question is which one? Shall I go for HTC or retain SE again. Managing fund is the major problem at the moment . And I'm not going for a high end phone. I don't think there is any point in spending big money when you've got Tabs at almost the same (or even cheaper) price than those big shots like i-phone.
That also brings the next question, is it ok if I go for a Tab instead of the smartphone and use bluetooth for making calls. I can have at least 7" screen and phone combined in one package. So which one should I go for?

XperianPro said:
Well I have X8 one full year and now I'm looking for new phone.
I have eye on Xperia Mini but I don't know should I really but it at the end I'm looking something like X8 so if you have any suggestions please post it.
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Well I think Xperia Ray will be nice as the screen size is smaller than the IPhone and only weighs 100g.It fits in the pocket .

pokénoob said:
Well I think Xperia Ray will be nice as the screen size is smaller than the IPhone and only weighs 100g.It fits in the pocket .
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What is the price?
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Xperia Ray is like the Lite version of the Arc. You can compare it and see their price range in GSMarena.
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