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Lost JasJar, help me decide whether to replace

Yep, I've done it AGAIN - left the bloody thing on a plane!
Despite being a pretty fair contributor to the early days of solving this newborn's issues, I'm somewhat undecided as to whether it's worth replacing. Hope u don't mind me bouncing my thoughts off you, while I debate degrading to a JAM or PDA2 - I'm pretty sure that my cynicism will be refuted more strongly here than anywhere else:
Downside of JasJar:
Big n bulky meant that I kept on putting it down - and losing it! And if one more cheeky bastard commented on my retro brick...
I pretty much stopped reading eBooks. Read 120 in 1 year on the PDA2 and raved about it, but on the JJ it was tough to hold in bed, and the buttons were too small to page down easily. I just faded on that which is rather sad.
Hinge was definitely working loose. A post I've made covers tightening it up by bending the plate, but I'm not sure where the end game of this falls...
In SA, it's way expensive (given that I lose them every 3 months). However, I'm going to the UK end January, perhaps I can get a cheap one and unlock it? Or is it not cheap given the contract? I think I can use UK addresses and banking details to get a contract, or do they require more than that? Thoughts anyone?
Software: So few games work well! And we still havn't solved the GPRS/3G traffic counting issue
Battery: Daily charging was indeed a ball-ache.
Radio quality: Hell this sucked! Now that I'm using an old Nokia, I'm trully understanding how bad all iMate radio stacks are! And BT gave so much trouble that I wondered if it was better without; crackling, echo, etc etc despite testing 3 top-end BT headsets. Still, the JAM is not that much better.
Stability: Let's face it, despite all our work to free up memory, close apps, run lean-n-mean, the damned thing was still dicky. You had to reset every few days at best, how many times did you look at the screen and see that the call you made 25 minutes ago was still in progress (Hell, what have I just been saying about the dickhead I was chatting to??), and altho I was a storng advicate of it being usable with a little effort, the truth is was that it was never as fast as the PDA2
Upside of JasJar
IIWPO likely to stay in memory. However, JAM allows for ROM hacking to secure this, and my JasJar hasn't phoned home in 3 days. I'm now figuring out that the issue is not whether thieves have the ability to hard reset, but rather whether they are intelligent enough to track down a charger for this new device - I think not!
Persistent storage: But in truth I was better off backing up the PDA2 as at least I could recover when it was lost. Now it's gone, all I have is my Outlook backup - no eWallet, no notes, no s.sht that I spent so long working on to justify my SL55 to the wife (and I was oh-so-close to succeeding...)!
3G! Yep, that was AWESOME. I used mine as a modem frequently, and with data rates in SA being so low, it was a truly workable alternative. However, I didn;t really use it for browsing (IE browser renders SO slowly with bad bad caching), and for email I only d/l headers which can be done on a JAM's GPRS. So, why not a JAM with an EDGE or 3G PCMCIA laptop card?
Keyboard! Loved it! But in truth I didn;t use it as much as I expected. The occasional email where I could nto wait to get back to my laptop, and quite frankly if I'm that desperate, why not use SBP Full Screen keyboard?
VGA: LOVED my slick WAD desktop with oh-so-glossy pic of my CLK55, but in truth I was the only one who ever looked at it and I get to see the real thing every day anyway! VGA browsing via Oz was kewl, but browsing was slow. Terminal Services was AWESOME, and I think that's probably my main concern. Loved getting into my eMule server and seeing how it was doing - or grabbing an eBook within 5 mins of being told about it!
Media player in VGA: Yeah, I liked that. But in truth the PDA2 was more stable for running mp3 playing apps, so it's pretty video vs mp3 - in truth the mp3 got used more - tho neither were used all that much.
Landscape: Naah - this was never a useful thing for me.
Hmm, as you can see I've pretty much convinced myself that it's back to to a JAM or PDA2...anyone able to pull me back from the retro abyss?
PS: There was a post where ppl covred what they were using their JJ for and why it was a worthwhile upgrade. Can't find it now - anyone mind giving me a string to search on?

I have put in some comments below, hih!
Downside of JasJar:
Big n bulky meant that I kept on putting it down - and losing it! And if one more cheeky bastard commented on my retro brick...
---Little difference between this and the PDA2K in size
I pretty much stopped reading eBooks. Read 120 in 1 year on the PDA2 and raved about it, but on the JJ it was tough to hold in bed, and the buttons were too small to page down easily. I just faded on that which is rather sad.
---I have read at the same rate since going from other PDA's to Universal, but I do it in landscape.
Hinge was definitely working loose. A post I've made covers tightening it up by bending the plate, but I'm not sure where the end game of this falls...
---Yeah, the jury's out on this one
In SA, it's way expensive (given that I lose them every 3 months). However, I'm going to the UK end January, perhaps I can get a cheap one and unlock it? Or is it not cheap given the contract? I think I can use UK addresses and banking details to get a contract, or do they require more than that? Thoughts anyone?
Software: So few games work well! And we still havn't solved the GPRS/3G traffic counting issue
---spb GPRS monitor?
Battery: Daily charging was indeed a ball-ache.
---Switch off 3G
Radio quality: Hell this sucked! Now that I'm using an old Nokia, I'm trully understanding how bad all iMate radio stacks are! And BT gave so much trouble that I wondered if it was better without; crackling, echo, etc etc despite testing 3 top-end BT headsets. Still, the JAM is not that much better.
---It's a tradeoff I guess for all the extra tech inside
Stability: Let's face it, despite all our work to free up memory, close apps, run lean-n-mean, the damned thing was still dicky. You had to reset every few days at best, how many times did you look at the screen and see that the call you made 25 minutes ago was still in progress (Hell, what have I just been saying about the dickhead I was chatting to??), and altho I was a storng advicate of it being usable with a little effort, the truth is was that it was never as fast as the PDA2
---Not as quick to the eye, but also seems to be ok in real use. I get about one reset a week at the moment with my minimal install
Upside of JasJar
IIWPO likely to stay in memory. However, JAM allows for ROM hacking to secure this, and my JasJar hasn't phoned home in 3 days. I'm now figuring out that the issue is not whether thieves have the ability to hard reset, but rather whether they are intelligent enough to track down a charger for this new device - I think not!
---Tea leaves only need a mini-USB lead to charge it. Now as they are likely to be on crack I guess they sold their computers already. Might take some time to have it phone home. You can inactivate the device to all through the IMEI number
Persistent storage: But in truth I was better off backing up the PDA2 as at least I could recover when it was lost. Now it's gone, all I have is my Outlook backup - no eWallet, no notes, no s.sht that I spent so long working on to justify my SL55 to the wife (and I was oh-so-close to succeeding...)!
3G! Yep, that was AWESOME. I used mine as a modem frequently, and with data rates in SA being so low, it was a truly workable alternative. However, I didn;t really use it for browsing (IE browser renders SO slowly with bad bad caching), and for email I only d/l headers which can be done on a JAM's GPRS. So, why not a JAM with an EDGE or 3G PCMCIA laptop card?
Keyboard! Loved it! But in truth I didn;t use it as much as I expected. The occasional email where I could nto wait to get back to my laptop, and quite frankly if I'm that desperate, why not use SBP Full Screen keyboard?
---Learn to love landscape. I don't use portrait ever these days.
VGA: LOVED my slick WAD desktop with oh-so-glossy pic of my CLK55, but in truth I was the only one who ever looked at it and I get to see the real thing every day anyway! VGA browsing via Oz was kewl, but browsing was slow. Terminal Services was AWESOME, and I think that's probably my main concern. Loved getting into my eMule server and seeing how it was doing - or grabbing an eBook within 5 mins of being told about it!
Media player in VGA: Yeah, I liked that. But in truth the PDA2 was more stable for running mp3 playing apps, so it's pretty video vs mp3 - in truth the mp3 got used more - tho neither were used all that much.
---PDA2K has a 'pop' on MP3 playback - the reason I couldn't stick with it.
Landscape: Naah - this was never a useful thing for me.
---Learn to love it.

here's the other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=35069&highlight=

iiwpo
I have a universal (qtek 9000) with the latest o2 rom. I have read that iiwpo works on the universal, but have not been able to do it. I edited the cab file exactly as per the instructions. The guide then says to edit the config.txt file from the rom. I opened it in text editor, but there is no reference to '
5. just before the line
EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPEnable.exe
insert a new line (provided the name of the CAB is "IIWPO.CAB")
CAB: \Extended_ROM\IIWPO.CAB
My config.txt file contains no such line 'tpenable.exe'
I tried the other method described in the forum by just putting the iiwpo.cab file in 'my documents' and executing it. It installed itself into windows and the windows startup folder. Changing the owner name and resetting does nothing. Any ideas would be much appreciated.

I'd add your Q to the IIWPO thread in here as this is OT to this thread.

Thank You.

craigiecraigie4
maybe you might want to wait for new models that will be launch this year? Perhaps there will be more better models launching soon like this loox T800 model ? IMHO.
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...or try the K-Jam in the meantime:-
Smaller, more convenient, more responsive, more buttons, better radio, much better battery, more stable, better bluetooth, more free memory.
If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar on the K-Jam, and much of it works better - especially as a phone, despite the price.

Let me put it this way:
"If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar"
You can do it in any other htc device since the himalaya.

ncruz said:
Let me put it this way:
"If you don't need the VGA screen, the bigger keyboard and 3G, you can do more or less do everything you did on the JasJar".
You can do it in any other htc device since the himalaya.
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Read it again. I said need "the bigger keyboard", not "a keyboard". Last time I looked, the only HTC devices that have keyboards are the Blue Angel (which he used to have), Universal (which he lost) and the Wizard. Unless you include the Treo and the Ipaq Messenger of course

My Wizard is randomly going NUTS - Help needed!!!

Hey all, I don't know what's causing this but since yesterday my Wizard (K-JAM) has been going crazy.
I just plugged it into my USB port a min ago to charge it (not sync) and a whole random bunch of apps opened, including IE where 'hhhhhhhhh' and 'eeeeee' were repeatedly put into the IE search box, as if the buttons were stuck (this'd happen if the keyboard was open or not)
SMS would open too, the phone panel would open and the phone would appear to be dialing random things. Including successfully dialing (by itself) "333".
The hard buttons and keyboard seem to become disabled when this happens too and will randomly start working again.
I'm running Windows Mobile 6.1 TNT Official. Has anyone else experienced this kind of stuff?
This is a real mystery and driving me nuts. Is my phone possessed?! I may try flashing with a different ROM later, although TNT *has* been working ok for the few days I've had it on here.

Ok this is really odd. I've found that when this happens and it calms down a bit (keyboard/buttons work again), I open Word Mobile and try and type.. the letters 'h' and 'e' don't work (the 2 letters that appear randomly when the phone goes crazy). I have no idea why as I can use these letters just fine when the phone's acting normal.
Right now I have Word Mobile open and the phone's typing "yyyyyyyyyyyyyy" by itself. Buttons/keyboard have stopped working but touchscreen is fine.
Gawd. :S
Edit: Wish I knew WTF was causing this. It continues even after a soft reset. This time I've rebooted it, it originally messed about but is now back to normal.

Ok, it now seems I can (temp.?) fix the hardware buttons on the front of the Wizard doing nothing by opening the keyboard and hitting something like the windows key. Then all the front buttons work again.
I notice when the buttons are disabled often hitting the middle button (inside the up/down/left/right) brings up "Align Screen" for who knows what reason.
How annoying. I'm gonna flash another ROM and see if the problems go away. (currently using latest TNT Official)
EDIT: Still some buttons (q, e, i, g, h) are no longer working. What on earth has happened here?

Right, just flashed it back down to T-Mobile 2.26 and the randomness problems seem to have gone away [EDIT: No they haven't] but I still have completly lost the use of q, e, i, g and h. I have no idea how this has happened. Last night I had a low battery (first time) and the phone started going nuts at this point, when it was under 10% charge left.
Since then it's been very random. But I charged it up overnight and the problem hasn't gone away. Some of the random stuff it was doing was typing 'hhhhh' and 'eeeeee' non-stop (2 of the buttons that no longer work) which makes me think a chipset has screwed up in some way. Keyboard backlight is on constantly. It's the sorta thing I'd expect if I dropped it in a sink of water but the phone hasn't been under any sort of shock/pressure/water/whatever since I got it last week!
I'm beyond frustrated. To top it all the MiniSD card I ordered days ago finally arrived today and it's now completly useless.
Dunno what I'm gonna do now. :S
Final Edit: Ok so it looks like it could be something up with the Wizard itself, could anyone confirm?
- The button in the centre of the joypad either 1. Acts as 'Start' or opens 'Align Screen', this is completly random. (sometimes changes on opening/closing the keyboard???)
- Either the joypad works and the Answer/Reject buttons don't or vice versa - this too is completly random.
- The Left / Right softkeys on the KEYBOARD (top left, top right) work randomly. If they are working the keyboard doesn't work, and again VICE VERSA.
- The LEDs on the call reject button / keyboard are on constantly. This only changes for a time if i mash the keyboard.
- The 5 letters mentioned previously don't work unless I mash the keyboard, in which case the Wizard will sometimes take over typing for itself and then I'm able to use the keys afterwards again. (yeah, I understand this makes absolutely no sense!)
- The Wizard will completly spontaniously start opening random stuff and typing as if keys are jammed.
I've flashed to Tmob 2.26, 3.08, WM6.1 (TNT) & WM6.1 (another cook) and have exactly the same problem. This all points towards broken hardware. I should have guessed with the amount of dents, scratches and a broken button that this poor Wizard has been through the mill a few times! Shame it had to use me as its death bed!
If anyone can recommend anything to what it might be and what I could do to fix it then please let me know.
Thanks!

Wow! You're not much for letting other people get a word in edge-wise, are ya?
First thing:
The button in the centre of the joypad either 1. Acts as 'Start' or opens 'Align Screen', this is completly random. (sometimes changes on opening/closing the keyboard???)
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Make sure you don't have Smartskey installed (look in Windows\Startup and in Program Files). If you do, uninstall it, it's been corrupted somehow.
Otherwise:
Ok, I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I think it's just the age of these phones. They get old, they get dirty. Don't believe me? Take off your battery cover and look at the grime that's gathered at the edges. Imagine what that does to your buttons!
You need to open the case, disassemble the keyboard section (and the faceplate too, for good measure), and thoroughly clean the contacts, the buttons, etc. The further you disassemble, the cleaner you will get it. See this thread for a manual on disassembly/reassembly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378764
Use good quality sterile cotton swabs (no dollar store crap for this), and pure (not dyed) isopropyl alcohol. Dab the swab in alcohol, and gently scrub every inch of the contacts, the circuit board faces, and the buttons.
When that's done, wait for it to dry...and I mean as dry as a mummy fart. DRY. Inspect everything carefully, looking for loose cotton threads, debris, and most important, streaks. Streaks mean you just smeared the gunk around without picking it up. If you find cotton or debris, use canned air to remove it. DO NOT USE TWEEZERS OR OTHER METAL IMPLEMENTS TO DO THIS. If you find streaks, go back and clean it again.
Once it is both dry and clean, reassemble it and test it. You should be good to go unless there's something broken.
If neither of these things works, I would strongly urge you to consider committing a violent act on the individual who sold you the phone... you probably won't get your money back, but it might make you feel better.

Cheers, the thing has me at my wits end. Keep having to remind myself it's only a phone
Yeah it's def not Smartskey or a soft problem as I've flashed it a whole bunch of times this afternoon.
From mashing the keyboard and causing it to do different things it looks to be a hardware problem (or full of junk like you say). I grabbed the pdf manual to look through but don't feel too comfortable taking the thing apart just yet.
I just slapped it about a bit as best I could out of frustration and unbelivably it seems to have come back to it's former glory. I'm not gonna get my hopes up and expect it to stay like this though.
Yeah it was an ex-company phone from a company upgrading their stock so no refunds / replacements. I guess if the worst comes to the worst it'll go on ebay as faulty and I'll be without a little gadget I really craved! Back to my £10 Sagem for the time being.
Thanks for the reply.

My Wizard is going nuts too. Also the buttons but a bit different. Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2102115#post2102115
Are there more people with problems like this?
Cyberdyne

Cyberdyne said:
My Wizard is going nuts too. Also the buttons but a bit different. Take a look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2102115#post2102115
Are there more people with problems like this?
Cyberdyne
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Hi mate, your problem sounds similar to mine. Especially about the lights (though my green light is broken and only shows occasionally - came like that). You'll probably find that when it's in that state the problems arise.
Mine screwed up again after about an hour of my last post and the keyboard barely works at all now. Mashing it / hitting it / swearing at it isn't doing any good. I've virtually given up.
I'm not sure about a CID re-lock btw, but would Vodafone bother check to see if it was CID locked or not on return?
But hey, it sounds like a hardware malfunction. Good luck with yours & keep us updated if you find any kind of resolution !

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^^^ WTF???

It would appear that we've been rickrolled. How annoying. I hope the moderators will get rid of that.

I could not fix the problem but my Wizard ist locked again and I will get a new one!

Cyberdyne said:
I could not fix the problem but my Wizard ist locked again and I will get a new one!
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Glad to hear it.
Wish I had that option myself though. I've put my Wizard up for sale in the sticky thread.
I do hope to get another one in the near future though. There's enough fun to be had to warrant another purchase soon I think.

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Never gonna give you up <3

New use for Samsung Car Dock

Today I moved my car stereo lower in the dash and mounted my Samsung Tab car-dock in the original stereo location.
Took me all of about an hour, cost me $10 (in addition to the dock I already had). I am fairly pleased with it.
I was glad to find that I did not have to extend any of the wires going to the original car stereo. They were plenty long enough to put the stereo down in where the little pocket used to be. All I had to do was cut the back of the plastic pocket out, and use the stock bolts to bolt through the plastic in to the body of the stereo. Part one done...
Then I used a piece of 2 inch wide steel bent in to form as a bracket for the Samsung dock. I mounted the new bracket to the original stock stereo mounting bolts. Then I cut a piece of black plastic to entirely close off the double din opening. This was hot glued and epoxied in to place from the rear so it is nice and clean. Part two done.
I then had to cut the last portion of the Samsung Tab mounting arm off. All I needed was the small portion where the dock actually bolts to it. This allowed me to still use the swivel to get the right mounting angle. The ONLY issue I had was that I wanted to mount it close enough to the dash that I had to cut a notch in the stereo bezel to accommodate the power cord to the dock. Not a big issue, and from the driver side its not visible at all.
I then mounted the dock to the bracket through a small hole I cut in the piece of black plastic I had mounted.
Originally, the TAB was mounted via the dock on top of my dash. I like this position much better!!!
Here is the end product.
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Sorry, I meant to post this in accessories. Can a mod move it for me?

Does the tab tie into your stereo over bluetooth or a line out? Or do you just use it for navigation?

Works perfectly via bluetooth. I was having some skipping issues, but they were cleared up with the last update of Car Dock. They now turn off wi-fi when in dock, which is what was causing the issues.

Very nice setup. How does the navigation work on the SGT.? i.e. is there any delay or lag. are you on Edge when using the nav.?

StarLog said:
Very nice setup. How does the navigation work on the SGT.? i.e. is there any delay or lag. are you on Edge when using the nav.?
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Google Navigation works as well on the SGT as any other phone - better in fact due to the higher resolution of the Tab. Just needs a reasonable 3G signal - which isn't hard to find. For me it's the best satnav software out there.

I live in Southern CA, so there is no issue with getting a signal. The Navigation works perfectly for me. A couple years ago I spent $2000 for an indash navigation, DVD player. What a waste that was... Its amazing how technology has changed in just a couple years.
I now have full Internet, navigation, phone and multi-media capabilities in my dash AND its removable!

Very nice work. The scarf is a nice touch too.

interesting, Ive never thought of installing it there.

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Very nice work. The scarf is a nice touch too.
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Thanks... at least you didn't call it a handkerchief... You silly guy!

Hey op..
Do you have this connected to your radio or is it stand alone...
i want to do something similar but I want to use it as my stereo as well....
thanks
P.

He said he plays through bluetooth to his car speakers.
Sent from my SGH-T959V using XDA Premium App

Thanks I see I overlooked that...
Sent from my SGH-T849 using XDA App

very very nice. I'm looking to do something similar in my old Corsa. What version of car dock is that?, look different to mine - i use the overcome rom

what app are you using there?

The Ap. is CarHome Ultra. Auto-launches when plugged in to the dock.

Thanks for sharing your DYI
Wow, it looks nice on your dashboard. I'll try to replicate this when the dock is available in my country (Thailand)

which car dock is it?
Hey guys,
I'd like to know which car-dock are you all referring to?
Thanks!

can you send a picture fo your dashboard dude?"i have the carkit but it asnnoys me on my glass.

ameer1367 said:
can you send a picture fo your dashboard dude?"i have the carkit but it asnnoys me on my glass.
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You cant see the two pictures in the original post?
Are you asking for a different angle? I dont think I understand...

[Review] ZGPAX S28 Review!

Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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Let's get down to business! What is it? Well, it looks an awful lot like a Gear 2, but it doesn't run android. However, that's not a bad thing, when you consider its $50 price tag from http://www.gearbest.com, where mine came from. It shipped in a generic "smartwatch" box, as shown in the unboxing video below:
Specs:
- CPU: MTK6260 360MHz
- 1.54 inch Touch Screen 240x240
- MicroSIM slot
- MicroSD slot
- Bluetooth 3.0
- 450mAh Battery 3.7V Li-ion (Reported: 72 Hrs Standby, 6 Hrs Talk, 8 Hrs Music)
- Micro USB port
- Size 58x39x12.5mm
- Weight 55g
- Accelerometer
- Vibration
- Microphone
- Speaker
- MicroUSB Earphones Included
Features:
- Pedometer
- Anti-Lost Alert (both for connected phone and watch)
- QWERTY keyboard with both T9 and handwriting prediction
- MP3 Player
- Sleep Monitor
- SMS
- Phonebook
- Music Player
- Remote Camera
- FM Radio
- Calendar
- Ringtones
- Multiple Language Support
You can either watch the video (I'm not a thespian or read the review right here. I decided to wear it for around 5 days prior to writing this, to get a feel for how I'd use it in the real world and how it stacks up to the competition that I have at my disposal. The watch is surprisingly comfortable, as well as stylish. It's very similar in design to the Gear 2, which I enjoy. For reference, I very much dislike wearing my Omate TrueSmart because it is so uncomfortable, but sometimes forget that the S28 is even on my wrist. I plugged it into the wall to let it charge for a little while, with the included microUSB charger, and then connected it to my HTC Desire 610 via bluetooth. I then downloaded the free companion app to my phone, which was also painless due to the QR download code being right on the watch. I basically scanned it with barcode scanner, then sideloaded the APK after it downloaded onto the phone.
Once up and running, you can select which apps from your phone you wish to display on the watch. I used everything from LINE Messenger to my iSmartAlarm home security system. Everything came through to the watch perfectly, and at the settings I selected. If you don't want an app to show up anymore, block it. Simple as that. I found myself blocking Facebook after receiving many many notifications at once and being distracted at work when I didn't need to be. Again, it was all very painless and I was pleasantly surprised. This is something that many Android based watches have problems with. They try to be both a watch and a phone, and can't be the best at either one. I've also had many issues with them not receiving notifications properly, or not receiving ALL notifications that you want to receive, which was not at all the case with the S28.
The watch itself is hard plastic with a metal faceplate and capacitive touch screen that's very responsive to touch, despite what my clumsiness in the video may lead you to believe . I LOVE that it's capacitive for only $50. I was actually expecting much less than I got for my money, to be honest. The screen is bright and relatively easy to read outside. It's not the greatest in direct sunlight, but to be honest, I've yet to find one that is. The only things I noticed myself really wishing for were a shake-to-wake feature of some kind, so I didn't have to press the button every time I wanted to see the time, and a way to remove the analog clock, or at least change it. I much prefer digital myself.
However, again, for the price, you simply can't beat it. My friends were in awe as I showed them the differences between this watch and my usual daily drivers, and I may have even convinced a few of them to give it a try. The watch has 2 functions in particular that I'd not used before, the remote camera and the "anti-lost" function. The first lets you use your watch to actually control the camera on your phone. You can see the viewfinder through the watch and walk around the room to take a picture. Not going to lie, I took a few full body selfies, and no, you can't see them. It worked well, and if you weren't taking a picture, it was also neat just watching the phone's viewfinder through the watch, like a remote security camera. The other feature was called "anti-lost", but is essentially a "find my watch, find my phone" feature, that will let you find the other if you have one of the two.
It has many features you'd find in a typical feature phone, such as SMS, phonebook, calendar, mp3 and mp4 player capability, and an FM radio. The pedometer works well, but you have to physically start it before walking, similar to most fitness apps you'd find on your phone. Again, I was spoiled with my MotoACTV's always-on pedometer. It has a sleep monitor, but I've yet to play with it. Soon, friends, soon. The on-screen keyboard is small, but works well and has many options including predictive text (T9) and handwriting recognition.
I did have one issue with the watch or the phone disconnecting and reconnecting with my bluetooth every so often, but in all honesty, I'm blaming that on the phone more than the watch. It was a cheap phone after all. I will be doing some more testing on that part when I replace the power button on my GS3.
3 things this watch has, that everyone else making watches out there needs to take note on: Built-in microphone, built-in speaker, and vibration function. It's literally a mini phone on your wrist, with decent battery life and talk time. Color me impressed.
If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!

ClearD said:
Hey guys, I recently acquired a ZGPAX S28 and figured I'd share it with you. Some of you may have been around for my development work on the MotoACTV and the Omate TrueSmart smartwatches, among various other phones and tools, so I figured it was time to try my hand at a product review for something that not too many of you have heard of yet.
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If you want to order from the same people I did, here is a direct link. And after speaking to their staff (who are also very nice by the way), they gave me a coupon code for you guys: S28GM, which brings the price down to just under $44. I hope you guys liked the review, and again, if you need to know anything else about it, don't hesitate to shoot me a message! Thanks for reading/watching!
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Thanks for the review. There's a review for it already by st7ler, but its good to get a second look, how many days battery are getting from it? Its similar to the U8 Pro, not sure which to buy.

I keep mine turned off at night, and I got 4 days before I recharged it. Not sure exactly how many it'd last though, because I never let it run completely down lol

Thanks. And your typical use for the 4 days was...?
Could you do me a favour and try bluetooth tethering please? [emoji106]

I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol

Thanks for the review. Looks good smart watch. Its app connection is stable?

It was stable for the most part, and if it disconnected, it quickly reconnected all by itself. I think my phone was the unstable part.

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I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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Shame it can't do bluetooth tethering, it would have not needed a data plan.
http://vifocal.com/zgpax-s28-watch-...-1-54-inch-screen-smart-bluetooh-sync-fm.html $43 and $3 off if you like them on farsebook or google+

ClearD said:
I used it for between 12 and 16 hours each day. And tethering how, specifically? It doesn't do internet pass through, if that's what you mean, but it does receive all notifications through bt tethering. And receives them rather well at that lol
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@ClearD - are there any functions to control the phone from the watch?

I don't believe so, it's sort of like a standalone watch phone that also reads notifications from your primary phone

It's possible to add new analog look? Or change shortcuts on descop?

Voyo VBook V1 Ultrabook Windows 10 Tablet PC released now.

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9000mAh seems plenty Let's hope it will be an affordable option, because I like the specs and I would love to give it a try

There are so many Chinese ultrabooks coming out, they all look sleek and cost around $200.. I want to get one so badly..

Hi
Got mine two weeks ago.
I tried to dual boot Ubuntu 16.04 with windows 10, but I had an issue with Ubuntu boots in portrait mode.
I changed the GOP vBIOS or something, and now the device won't boot any more.
Just black screen.
Tried to connect HDMI cable but no luck.
Also I can't access BIOS to reset the configuration.
The device come with no CMOS battery, so hard reset will not be an option.
I left with find the device firmware (ROM or BIN) and find the boot combination keys to try the last option or RIP my device .
BR

Voyo V1 experiences
Bought one of these, Win10/Android 5.1 dual boot version.
The physical build is very nice. Massive, great craftmanship, metallic looking (but plastic) top and bottom, not bending, the hinges are strong.. to the level you need two hands to open it. It is even problematic to pick it up from the desk, it is not really offering a place to grab it.
The sound is okay, speakers are at the bottom - though I don't know why didn't they lead the sound out at the sides where it rounds up at the bottom, I suppose there would be space inside (didn't take it apart to look).
The touch pad is not very sensitive, multi touch but tends to do weird things like for example instead of scrolling (two finger swipe up/down) it resizes the window instead by docking it (under windows at least, haven't used it much under Android). It has no specific driver, so no way to fine tune it, no idea who the manufacturer is either, it comes up as standard HID device.
The flash disk is one of the slower ones (no idea again) but it's acceptable.
The keyboard however, is terrible. The island type, which would be okay, but the buttons when pressed go way under the level of the surrounding plastic mesh and the finger gets stuck, or it doesn't register the press. You can only type by finger tips, literally, which is not very comfortable at all, and especially at such a tiny keyboard. I actually took the device apart and cut the mesh out, it still looks alright but much better to type on.
Windows came activated, in english, no problems there. It switches to droid and back by a built-in app. Droid is not rooted.
The battery usage tracking is not working neither under windows or droid; it shows rapid discharge then continues working for hours at a few percent (as it thinks). It says "battery usage data isn't available" and in Windows just "Calculating..." for ever so you don't have a real clue about when is it going to shut down.
I measured with a USB charge tester and from empty it loaded ~11600mAh into it so the battery capacity is okay, the problem lies somewhere else. Charging took overnight, it takes a lot of time to load 11k by 5V/1.45A.
Under droid the sw keyboard kept popping up whenever I went to an input field - I have never had similar problem with external keyboards, fortunately "null keyboard" app offers a workaround.
I haven't found an alternative ROM for it nor have an idea how to root making it work as-is.
So considering the above I'd give it 6/10 tops.

I bought mine from Gearbest. Took two months to get. Wrong color. Case they recommended is 2 1/2 inches too small. After four hours of use it won't power up.

any other feedback on keyboard, battery indicator, sleep mode on Android ?
Thanks @MistycSr & @Funky54 for your feedback on the Voyo VBook V1 !
I must say I am tempted to buy one of these netbooks because it's cheaper (Gearbest : $208 with android http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_331052.htmlhttp://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_323958.html or $188 without android : http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_323958.html ) & lighter than the Asus Chromebook Flip (and with native Android & Windows also).
Does everybody have problems with the keyboard & the battery indicator ?
Does it run OK with android ? Does the sleep mode work OK on android ?
(I tried android on my asus t100ta , it worked good except that it would'nt go to sleep ...)
PS : after checking on another forum there is a file for a dual system (Windows & Android) installation on voyo's website : http://en.myvoyo.com/xiazai/Win%20Pad/VBOOK%20V1/down/ ... so adventurous people can save $20 if they want to install android afterwards

weight : 790gr or 1070gr ?
Also what is the real weight of it ??? most pages on the internet say it s 790gr (which would be really light !) but some pages also say it's 1070gr ...

pierro78 said:
Also what is the real weight of it ??? most pages on the internet say it s 790gr (which would be really light !) but some pages also say it's 1070gr ...
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I found the answer : it’s 1006gr : http://win-tab.net/readers_review/voyo_vbook_v1_readers_review_1604031/
(maybe I am going to buy an asus chromebook flip as it can run android apps now …)