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Sell Xoom and get Transformer next week?

Well well well...
Now that the Transformer is confirmed for next week, what do I do?
I just bought my Xoom from best buy this week, and can return it with no hassles. I have a $120 PDAir leather case but im sure I can get most of my money back.....
Would you guys do the trade? Granted the $$ isn't the issue, I just really want the IPS screen and USB access.
What do you guys think? Would you swap them out if you could? Disregarding the $$ factor?
The most important thing to me is development, which the Xoom clearly is ahead in now...

I don't think the Transformer is for me. It's just a wee bit too large, and I need my cell data plan. AFAIK, Transformer is wifi only, right? I'm guessing that the Transformer works a lot better in the keyboard department, which is my main disappointment about the Xoom.
Really though, I don't think you could go wrong with either device. The Transformer wasn't quite as rushed to the market, so you might encounter fewer bugs, but ultimately, it seems like more of an issue of form factor. The USB sounds good, but in my case, I barely use USB for anything these days.

From the videos I've seen of the Transformer in action, it has a slightly worse viewing angle despite being an IPS panel (versus the VA in the XOOM). That said, the Transformer's panel looks more saturated. Conversely, the Transformer seems to suffer more from glare than the XOOM.
As for development, you nailed it with the XOOM being ahead at the moment. I assume that it will stay this way for a while, as the XOOM attracted a lot of early adopters and developers since it's the first official Honeycomb device.
Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
FWIW, I'd far rather have the XOOM. As such, it's what I have chosen for myself.
Edit: Sorry! I was wrong about the RAM. Turns out, I was thinking of the G-Slate.

Probably the biggest appeal the transformer for me is the usb port for future external drives. However there are ways around that issue. For me I prefer the look of the xoom, I believe motorola produces better quality items vs acer, and motorola is an american firm so I also support american designers. Win-win for me.
As I have said before. Just so long as people keep buying android tablets that's the important thing.
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Don't forget the bezel either. It gets really annoying.
Much like why i am still waiting to buy a different dualcore phone other than the g2x. The g2x is awesome nonetheless its just the bezel that is ridiculously too much. But you get my point.
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You mean asus? I guess I should mention I have the wifi so thats not an issue. The biggest appeal for me is the USB and the screen as well. I just want more storage so I can put a bunch of movis on my xoom

tumbes20000 said:
Probably the biggest appeal the transformer for me is the usb port for future external drives. However there are ways around that issue. For me I prefer the look of the xoom, I believe motorola produces better quality items vs acer, and motorola is an american firm so I also support american designers. Win-win for me.
As I have said before. Just so long as people keep buying android tablets that's the important thing.
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Its Asus actually lol
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willverduzco said:
Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
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Where did you get that from? The official website states 1GB memory:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#specifications

For me it's the xoom. Dual band wifi and a much small bezel/size. I purchased the Moto BT keyboard and never use it, it's a tablet. If I wanted a netbook, i wouldve bought one.

DeerChaser said:
For me it's the xoom. Dual band wifi and a much small bezel/size. I purchased the Moto BT keyboard and never use it, it's a tablet. If I wanted a netbook, i wouldve bought one.
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I bought that too, its nice but I dont see myself using it either... in class maybe but all my classes have computers in them for notes

willverduzco said:
From the videos I've seen of the Transformer in action, it has a slightly worse viewing angle despite being an IPS panel (versus the VA in the XOOM). That said, the Transformer's panel looks more saturated. Conversely, the Transformer seems to suffer more from glare than the XOOM.
As for development, you nailed it with the XOOM being ahead at the moment. I assume that it will stay this way for a while, as the XOOM attracted a lot of early adopters and developers since it's the first official Honeycomb device.
Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
FWIW, I'd far rather have the XOOM. As such, it's what I have chosen for myself.
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The xoom has horrible viewing angles. The screen on the transformer looks way better so far and according to reviews it is way better than the xoom screen.
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I dunno..
I am not sure. I've had my xoom for about 3 weeks. I absolutely love it as its my laptop replacement.
However, the price of the Transformer is nice.. The screen tech also looks good. And of course there is working SD card and USB.
But damn, that bezel is ugly as hell on the Transformer. Reviews are also saying its plasticy.
Lastly, its hard to find a definitive answer on the software. Does Asus have a custom skin on there? I've told myself I will never ever buy a tablet or phone with a custom skin again. I am tired of waiting for updates from OEMs. This is one of the main reasons Im swapping my EVO for a Nexus S as soon as it drops on Sprint in the coming weeks.
What do all my fellow Xoom peeps think?

Only thing holding me back from immediately returning the xoom in favor odf the transformer is that the transformer apparently looks ugly and feels plasticy comparedto the xoom. I guess I gotta see it in person before I can decide.

I just bought my Xoom on the 17th from Best Buy. I have until May 1st to return it. If Best Buy has a Transformer on display, and I like it, I'll probably return the Xoom for that.
If it has almost everything the Xoom has, and I can get the keyboard dock and still walk away with $50 in my pocket from the return I'm happy.

I'm stickin to my Xoom... seems like it's better built. I didn't payf or it so the $$ factor doesnt bother me....
The bezel on the transformer is huge to make it fit in the dock, not really interested in that. Ill slap a 32 gig sdhc in and not worry about USB

I tested the transformer before I received my Xoom. For me the xoom wins hands down.
Its largley a matter of personal preference but I didn't actually like holding it, the bezzle is just too big to hold and type even if you had thumb key.
The screen really didn't look any better than the xooms maybe slightly more vivid colours. But the keyboard doesn't make sense to me on a tab, there is no USB on the tablet itself and currently only 16gb model is available.
But like I said that's all just personal taste
sent from my xoom. at last

wang1404 said:
Don't forget the bezel either. It gets really annoying.
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I want a bigger bezel. The bezel on the Xoom is only about 3/4 the size of my thumb. You can't hold this thing with one hand without activating the screen in some unwanted way. Maybe I just have big hands and you don't, but still this has become annoying.
The Transformer has a larger bezel to be wide enough to seat evenly with the netbook sized keyboard attachment, but I think that there's the added benefit of being able to hold onto it.
OH and the transformer is freaking $200 less... After purchasing my WiFi Xoom I find myself using it less and less. For something like this that I'm using quite casually, I don't mind a couple "flaws" (according to some) in order to save $200. Heck, when I return my Xoom I might not be buying a different tablet at all.

I'm going to return my Xoom this Sun to Costco. I love it but I'm kinda bored of it. I don't use it as much as before. The only time I use it now is when I'm in bed waiting to past out. Without XDA, I would of returned the Xoom after a few days of owning it. With the Transformer I get to save some benjamins.

After reading the Transformer Anandtech review, I would definitely get a Transformer over the Xoom... that is, if I wasn't such an aesthetic freak. The bezel size irriates me...
On a good note Anandtech says the display is "comparable to the iPad 2", and that it is definitely more impressive than the Xoom's.

sano614 said:
I just bought my Xoom on the 17th from Best Buy. I have until May 1st to return it. If Best Buy has a Transformer on display, and I like it, I'll probably return the Xoom for that.
If it has almost everything the Xoom has, and I can get the keyboard dock and still walk away with $50 in my pocket from the return I'm happy.
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you will be walking away -$50, the transform is $500 for the 32gb model

[Q] Just bought an A500

Does anyone else that has one notice a funny vibration when it's charging and you touch the aluminum side? I have it sitting on a leather desk chair charging and whenever I touch the side I get a little vibration that feels like electric current. It's very noticeable when I run my finger up and down it.

Nope, I don't seem to have that. I bought one today, but the screen is horrible.

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Does anyone else that has one notice a funny vibration when it's charging and you touch the aluminum side? I have it sitting on a leather desk chair charging and whenever I touch the side I get a little vibration that feels like electric current. It's very noticeable when I run my finger up and down it.
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Yes I was Checking that out at a Best Buy today and noticed that. Also I get the same vibration when I do the same thing on my HP Zeen android tab when it is docked to my printer.

quietas said:
Nope, I don't seem to have that. I bought one today, but the screen is horrible.
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Horrible? What makes the screen horrible for you? Why did you buy it? Surely, you could see that the screen was horrible before you decided to buy...??

I purchased one today as well. I haven't noticed the charging thing.
I think 'horrible' is a terribly harsh word, but many people tend to nitpick when it comes to these things and by all rights that's fine as it is their money. If you look carefully at the screen you'll see tiny vertical lines. In essence, if you sit there and stare up close you WILL see a tiny grid. I doubt many people will even notice it without it being called to attention. If it affected me negatively then I'd have an issue but it doesn't. It's obvious that some people are going to take issue with it though. It's up to the person to decide if they feel it's a problem or not.
The light acer ui software seems elegant and well thought out and all in all I do like it. I am still deciding between the iconia tab and the eee transformer. There are trade-offs. The eee doesn't have a camera flash and the front cam is 1.2 vs. the iconias 2.0 MP, not that that's a huge deal. The eee is also supposed to get a bit more juice from it's battery over the iconia tab. The eee doesn't have a host usb on the tab, you'll need the dock, not a big deal to some but I actually like having it on the tab. The eee has gorilla glass and an ips screen, the iconia doesnt have either but has a nice brushed metal backing and one thing I haven't noticed any reviewers mention is the Acer has a backlit power button which occasionally lights up....there's no method to it, ie: it's not lighting up because you have notifications but I'm sure a future update could result in that behavior. Heck, maybe it can be set right now (I haven't played with it in depth yet). The iconia tab also has some buried features...dolby sound which actually sounds pretty nice and 2 noise cancelling mics for really great skype/voip convos. These 2 tablets are going to give people a hard time in deciding I think. The eee has that keyboard/trackpad/battery dock, the iconia tab has a dock with a keyboard/trackpad/remote (rumored, I havent SEEN it).
One gripe I'm having with the Iconia is it doesn't seem to play many video file types over dlna. If it doesn't play them directly then this will definitely be a problem for me. I had a GTablet and would regularly use upnplay to stream videos from my Windows 7 machines and now I can't seem to get the Iconia to play a single file. I've tried Vplayer, Rockplayer, Doubletwist, nothing works. I don't know if this is Acer's fault or Honeycomb so I'm waiting patiently for the eee transformer to come so I can do my tests on it to finger the culprit.
I really like the tablet and hope I don't have to exchange it. I was all for the eee but got tired of the long drawn out wait. Now I'm hearing it's supposed to come tomorrow so I'll get to do some direct comparisons and end up with the one that fits me the most.

Why are you asking about the Acer in the Asus forum? just curious not being a jerk

Im picking up the iconia today. I don't care about the keyboard. If i wanted a Keyboard its get a netbook. I like the usb feature and the sim slot and hspa ready.
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graffixnyc said:
Why are you asking about the Acer in the Asus forum? just curious not being a jerk
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For those of us who don't want to wait until the middle of May for a Transformer, this is a viable option and I'd like to hear about their experiences with it, especially since there isn't a dedicated subform for it here yet (which is odd).

Got the A500, too. I like it, but will be checking out the transformer when I can get my hands on one.
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I bought one A500 today, the screen is fantastic.........

Is there really an issue with the grid being visible?

Great screen
Excellent Dolby sound
USB 2.0 port that actually works
Micro HDMI port with 1080p output
Working memory expansion
Great suite of included apps

Think I'll have to take a looksie at my local Best Buy.

I placed my order for the Transformer at Amazon in hopes that stock will come in soon, but I am still considering the A500. The main thing that's keeping me from it is the apparent lack of popularity compared to the Transformer. Doesn't affect the quality of the unit, but it does affect the availability of accessories and dev support.

I'm liking the A500. I see no problem with the screen. There's an included app to stream music from any PC in your network. The USB port can charge my EVO while I'm tethering and read files off of my phone or flash drive.
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Are you able to install non-market apps?

dfin13 said:
Is there really an issue with the grid being visible?
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I saw that in the cnet review. Have not seen what they were talking about. Seems like they go out of their way to nitpick.
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Cubfan99 said:
I saw that in the cnet review. Have not seen what they were talking about. Seems like they go out of their way to nitpick.
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You really have to look at it and look for it to see it imho. But it's there. Is it a dealbreaker? Only if it bothers you.
As for the question about non-market apps. The answer is yes, you can...and you can sideload just fine.
I'm still not able to play any videos :/ Even with the files directly on a microsd. My last choice is to copy them to the device and try the included player. If they still don't play this is going to be a big problem for me.
Anyone else able to stream videos from their pcs or from a microsd?

My local BB has decided to sell them telepathicly instead of putting them out for display. He said we have them but wont have a display until next week, maybe. They rather sell them instead he says, and I'm like not having them out on the floor helps...
I wanna see it in action first. Oh well sale lost....

That's goofy. My local BB had one on display right next to the Xoom.

[Q] Multitouch points

How much fingers can the multitouch handle? Is it 10 points(10 fingers)?

I have found (unscientifically) that it recognizes all ren fingers at once...

Download MultiTouch Visualizer 2 from the market for a lovely graphical representation of ten finger multitouch.

markteacher said:
Download MultiTouch Visualizer 2 from the market for a lovely graphical representation of ten finger multitouch.
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I don't have the tablet. I'm thinking of buying it, but then I want to know how multitouch is.

the multitouch is fantastic. so far i can tel it recognizes all 10 fingers. i know cause an app i use for the little ones called toddlerlock picked up all my fingers.

Ten fingers with the app! Some reason I highly enjoy using the otherwise useless app.
Just seems impressive to me. Probably because my Desire has such crappy multitouch. ;-)
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tbo-art said:
I don't have the tablet. I'm thinking of buying it, but then I want to know how multitouch is.
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Well, from a user perspective, so far I have had a Notion Ink Adam - ebayed because the viewing angles were SHOCKING, and 3 Asus Transformers, all returned because of build quality issues.
The Iconia is by far the best of the 3 I have tried, and a definite keeper, bigger than the Xoom, but in my opinion, far easier to hold in one hand because of the extra bevel round the edge.
Buy one, I honestly don't think you will regret it.

markteacher said:
Well, from a user perspective, so far I have had a Notion Ink Adam - ebayed because the viewing angles were SHOCKING, and 3 Asus Transformers, all returned because of build quality issues.
The Iconia is by far the best of the 3 I have tried, and a definite keeper, bigger than the Xoom, but in my opinion, far easier to hold in one hand because of the extra bevel round the edge.
Buy one, I honestly don't think you will regret it.
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Agreed!!!
A great tablet, I had to sell my iPad cause I had no use for it anymore nor could I even enjoy it.

All 10 fingers worked! +1
Hi
I also tested it, and all 10 finger works fine!
But 10 is the limit, 11 didn't work, but should not be a issue.
@markteacher:
If you had also the ASUS Transformer, what do you say to the screen of the ASUS compared to the ACER.
Is the cheap IPS better than the TFT from ACER?
Best regards

Omg, what did you use as a 11th finger!??!

abats said:
Omg, what did you use as a 11th finger!??!
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When I checked I used my..................................
nose.

daveid said:
When I checked I used my..................................
nose.
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Oh... my...

daveid said:
When I checked I used my..................................
nose.
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hahaha yesterday I test multitouch and use my nose as 11th finger

Hey look, someone else stuck with Telcel.

muqali said:
Hey look, someone else stuck with Telcel.
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hahahaa yeeeah let make Slim more rich
greetings

I'm also not the only one who thinks Carlos is the feudal lord over his fief of Mexico then. Fortunately I'm not a serf, just a visiting Lord

FSGuruh said:
Hi
I also tested it, and all 10 finger works fine!
But 10 is the limit, 11 didn't work, but should not be a issue.
@markteacher:
If you had also the ASUS Transformer, what do you say to the screen of the ASUS compared to the ACER.
Is the cheap IPS better than the TFT from ACER?
Best regards
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There is definately a difference, the transformer screen is amazing with ipad standard viewing angles.
As for general quality, I think you have to get pretty close up to notice any difference at all for armchair surfing and the like.
And for me the slight drop in quality was worth it for the lack of light bleed around the edges of all my 3 transformers.

Returned the Eee Pad.

Had it for 1 whole day. THe quanlity feels cheap. New honey comb ui is good and very impressive. When I restart the tranformer at night, I saw at least 8 birght spots on my screen. So decied to return it to amazon. But I don't have the speaker problem.

Mine does not feel cheap. Feels well put together. Some people think it feels cheap because it has a plastic back. That to me doesn't mean it is cheap. I don't need metal to feel something is quality.
If you had problems with it creaking and seems like you had problems with the screen, I assure you that is not how it is supposed to be. RMA.

Quanlity ........ Lol.........something wrong with the keyboard too?
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Mine creaks a bit and may give the impression of not being solidly built, but in my opinion, it's a really nice tablet.

Tired of these threads. If u don't like, just go away. It's a $399 tablet and build quality is excellent for a $399 tablet. Maybe some company will release a tablet for twice the price one day made out of carbon fiber, but who the hell cares if it does the exact same thing as a $399 tablet. Lets get over this once and for all. Next, everyone will be saying that its not good enough because it doesn't have tegra 3 chipset or it doesn't run Windows 8 or it doesn't make pancakes. The TF is a great tablet that many of us love and anyone who doesn't probably should just get an iPad 2 or wait for the iPad 3 or just avoid tablets altogether...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Indeed a little bit overdone to start a thread for this, but I must agree, the TF has some common issues, which keep me from saying that it's a real quality product. (Speaker problem, accelerometer not calibrated, backlight bleeding, dust under screen, dead touchzones, ...)

gadgetfann said:
Tired of these threads. If u don't like, just go away. It's a $399 tablet and build quality is excellent for a $399 tablet. Maybe some company will release a tablet for twice the price one day made out of carbon fiber, but who the hell cares if it does the exact same thing as a $399 tablet. Lets get over this once and for all. Next, everyone will be saying that its not good enough because it doesn't have tegra 3 chipset or it doesn't run Windows 8 or it doesn't make pancakes. The TF is a great tablet that many of us love and anyone who doesn't probably should just get an iPad 2 or wait for the iPad 3 or just avoid tablets altogether...
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Don't be tired of these threads, everyone has the right to say what he thinks.
I had the Transformer for a day and had to send it back.
The quality of my Transformer was disappointing. The Upper rigth corner of the touch screen was not in line with the other corners, it was lower by 3 mm that the metal frame.The back was 3mm above the metal frame.
Not to speak that i could see through the hole between the touch screen and the metal frame.
So i think that those who got a good Transformer should be happy.But not all of them are great, in fact i think that the quality control was nonexistent.
NOT EVERYONE GOT A PERFECT TRANSFORMER!!!!!
If you did get o good one it does not mean the problems you hear about and you are tired off are not there.
I sent mine back and now i am waiting to get a replacement.

i have slight creaking only in the very edge of the top right an bottom left corner but its only a little other wise the build is good not cheap

I never understand why people want to start a whole new thread just to tell the entire world they're returning something.....

magicpork said:
I never understand why people want to start a whole new thread just to tell the entire world they're returning something.....
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Because they are butthurt and want to nag to other people to make themselves feel better.
By the way, if the OP wants good build quality you should pick up an iPad 2, they are half metal and feel sturdy. Just don't sell one of your kidneys like that kid.

yeah agree...why need to create another new thread ?? just find a related thread and post in it. next time another thread like this appear, can consider it as spam/troll

Oddly the demo units at staples feel like they were built like a tank. No creak or flex. Very solid despite plastic back.
I am on my fourth and waiting for my 5th TF.
EACH has suffered light bleed with the most recent one being the best so far.
However while it was solid on day one it now is creaking along the top left and right corners and a bit on the right side. If unit number five is no better they all go back and I get a Samsung. The dock for me is not so important as a laptop owner that I will accept such poor build quality.
my ipad 1 bought a year ago has no bleed no creaks after a year of use. The demo units in 3 stores of the transformer were all solid so I know Asus can build them well but likely make different units better made to be used as demos.
I suspect this as o e staples store who had just got product in and had not had their demo put out yet would not let me buy their demo unit.
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Mine creaks a bit and may give the impression of not being solidly built, but in my opinion, it's a really nice tablet.
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Shawn_230 said:
Because they are butthurt and want to nag to other people to make themselves feel better.
By the way, if the OP wants good build quality you should pick up an iPad 2, they are half metal and feel sturdy. Just don't sell one of your kidneys like that kid.
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They have been suffering from the light bleed issues too...

Lol, you want to know how badly my 7'' Galaxy Tab creaks? That's cheap plastic. Creak creak creak. It creaks if you look at it sideways.
Also, check out this thread: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1122027 In fact, google up "ipad light bleed." Prepare to be astounded: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/12/poll-is-your-ipad-2-backlight-bleeding-video/
Look, if you don't have anything nice to say about the iPad2, don't say anything at all! Ignorance is bliss!! J/k. I think you may be right, a friend of mines co. Bought 10 iPad2 and ALL of them have it to some degree... They also have as many 1st generation iPads and the difference is dramatic.
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Fun, hey?
(I've only noticed light bleed when I turn it on and the screen displays boot animation, FYI. Any other time and it's not particularly noticeable.)

i was able to play with the Samsung 10.1 tab at the android central meetup in nyc and the Samsung tab had all the same UI issues as the TF. Yes it was thinner but to me the TF is fine the way it is and iits $100 less. My TF is fantastic and with the $$$ I saved I got a nexus s 4g. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Lol, you want to know how badly my 7'' Galaxy Tab creaks? That's cheap plastic. Creak creak creak. It creaks if you look at it sideways.
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My gf's Galaxy Tab is solid as any tab I've ever handled, so therefore I think all Galaxy Tabs are perfect and you have the only bad one.
Sarcasm (not directed at you personally), hopefully it was duly noted The TF has some bad batches, I think that's obvious. You can say, "Oh it's just a small number on XDA!" but you can probably use this small sample and apply it to the entire user base and come up with an idea of the amount of defective units. Sounds like the early batches were rushed out the door to meet a deadline and demand.
Mine is pretty solid. Creaky, one spot of light bleed, but tolerable for the cheapest HC tablet, and I love it like I'd love my first born, if I had a first born. Still the best deal out there.

wackadroid said:
i was able to play with the Samsung 10.1 tab at the android central meetup in nyc and the Samsung tab had all the same UI issues as the TF. Yes it was thinner but to me the TF is fine the way it is and iits $100 less. My TF is fantastic and with the $$$ I saved I got a nexus s 4g. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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Yeah, Galaxy Tab 10.1 is supposed to be really thin but I still don't want it.
Compared to the Transformer it's more expensive, no expandable memory, no IPS display, and build is plastic just like our Eee Pads.
Honestly the Transformer has a few bugs, Honeycomb too... but overall you cannot beat this thing, no contest when you consider cost.
TF101FTW!

I was pretty happy with the overall design of the tablet but their quality control does leave a bit to be desired. I've had 2 tablets and both have a defect. One was light bleed and the most recent one came with a broken power button.
I'm not sure if I should keep trying replacements or call it quits on Asus.

Tutti-frutti said:
Indeed a little bit overdone to start a thread for this, but I must agree, the TF has some common issues, which keep me from saying that it's a real quality product. (Speaker problem, accelerometer not calibrated, backlight bleeding, dust under screen, dead touchzones, ...)
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i agree. it's not high quality, but good enough quality for the price - compared to the current market price for higher end android tablets.

I thought there was a lot of people with the screen bleeding issue? The way you guys make it sound that the screen be perfect. Unfortunately I noticed I got some serious bleeding myself. I just cant figure out if it's worth RMA and all that. It might take forever for KMART to get anymore back in stock.
I thought I read a lot of people had the issue also. It doesnt bother me at all really, but one of these posts made me feel that I should exchange it ASAP

Asus Transformer vs Notion Ink Adam

I have been looking at getting a tablet for a while now. I have been very interested in the Adam especially for the pixel qi screen. I do a lot of reading and thought that it would be great. My question for everyone out there is what do you think the best way to go is:
Buy the Adam 1 now
Wait until the Adam 2 is released
or buy the Asus Transformer
Besides the Adam the asus kind of caught my eye, although it wouldnt be as good for reading, I love the dock and for indoor stuff like movies or what not the screen looks good.
I have tons of experience with rooting so am not afraid to get my hands dirty with the adam. Curious though, if even after rooting and flashing and what not if the adam is worth getting. And how the TF runs after root and what not

Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?

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Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_tablet
not even going to bother. ASUS Transformer all the way.

I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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wynand32 said:
I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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I second that. I believe I am in the position to provide a valid comment on this having been an owner of the adam first and being a proud owner of the transformer now. Indeed I remained charmed by the adam when I read what that tiny startup in India was trying to achieve: a tablet with the an innovative hardware (the first pixelqi screen, tegra2 etc. ) and an inspiring vision.
Unfortunately, the implementation did not deliver on the promises. The the tablet was indeed buggy (software) and did not receive the honeycomb code. I therefore decided to sell it and buy the transformer: I am very happy I took that decision on time.

i remember the good old notion ink adam days, thank god it took about 4 1/2 months for a pre order invite that I gladly canceled. thing is a junk now R.I.P

What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.

I wouldn't buy a notion ink, I saw some inside pictures! PURE HORROR! Build quality is questionable at least....
I am using thre transformer for 2 month now and I am very happy.
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But more on a serious note, I wouldn't even know why anybody would want the Notion Ink. It's running on the previous generation of Android that's not optimized for tablet use (or dual core in that matter).
It's a step backwards. ASUS Transformer all the way.

This can't be a serious comparison
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What a rediculous thread, LOL. What's next? Palm Treo (circa 2005) vs Samsung Galaxy S 2?

XL2001 said:
What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.
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Would like to see pictures, yes. I quite like the idea of Pixel-Qi but have never seen one in action in person.

hmmm
I guess thats what I would love to know, is if any one has tried to two side by side. For sure the transformer is backed by a better company and has more support. Just curious if the Pixel QI screen is worth running an old android version or anything like that.

Ths has to be a joke. In no way are the two remotely comparable. Last I checked the price for that thing was near the price of the TF, possibly higher.
It's dated, the hardware is crap, the design is clunky and it has QC issues of its own so you're not going anywhere with that in terms of QC. There's literally no comparison here. It's crap.
Couple it with unimaginably poor customer service that makes Asus look like the greatest company on Earth. When I say their customer service is worse than Asus you know I mean it and it must be god awful.
They ignore your e-mails and really you have no other entity to send it back to for RMA repair than them and I think I remember they either request you send it back to their LA third party contractor or in some cases China. There was a huge forum filled with pissed off owners. I think NotionInkFans.com. If you thought this place was swamped with people making "I'm leaving" or "Good Bye" posts, that message board ****s all over this one. There must have been fifteen a day on that one.

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Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.

Despite what most people here are saying I too considered the Adam. The screen seemed very exciting as well as USB on main unit. With that screen you will never get the same quality as Asus/IPad IPS screen indoors. If reading is your main concern you could look into a Nook, but if you want an all-rounder the Transformer is tops and you have the comfort of Asus behind the warranty and not a small business enterprise.
If you considered waiting for the Adam 2, why not wait for Transformer 2? About same release date.

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Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.
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Actually, they aren't a scam. I had an Adam. Sold it. Yes, they take AGES to ship, but it will arrive.
I much prefer the TF. The PixelQi screen sounded good, but in practice it wasn't anywhere near the level of, say, a Kindle screen.
I really wanted the Adam to succeed prior to getting it, but have to say I have no regrets in getting the TF.