Well well well...
Now that the Transformer is confirmed for next week, what do I do?
I just bought my Xoom from best buy this week, and can return it with no hassles. I have a $120 PDAir leather case but im sure I can get most of my money back.....
Would you guys do the trade? Granted the $$ isn't the issue, I just really want the IPS screen and USB access.
What do you guys think? Would you swap them out if you could? Disregarding the $$ factor?
The most important thing to me is development, which the Xoom clearly is ahead in now...
I don't think the Transformer is for me. It's just a wee bit too large, and I need my cell data plan. AFAIK, Transformer is wifi only, right? I'm guessing that the Transformer works a lot better in the keyboard department, which is my main disappointment about the Xoom.
Really though, I don't think you could go wrong with either device. The Transformer wasn't quite as rushed to the market, so you might encounter fewer bugs, but ultimately, it seems like more of an issue of form factor. The USB sounds good, but in my case, I barely use USB for anything these days.
From the videos I've seen of the Transformer in action, it has a slightly worse viewing angle despite being an IPS panel (versus the VA in the XOOM). That said, the Transformer's panel looks more saturated. Conversely, the Transformer seems to suffer more from glare than the XOOM.
As for development, you nailed it with the XOOM being ahead at the moment. I assume that it will stay this way for a while, as the XOOM attracted a lot of early adopters and developers since it's the first official Honeycomb device.
Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
FWIW, I'd far rather have the XOOM. As such, it's what I have chosen for myself.
Edit: Sorry! I was wrong about the RAM. Turns out, I was thinking of the G-Slate.
Probably the biggest appeal the transformer for me is the usb port for future external drives. However there are ways around that issue. For me I prefer the look of the xoom, I believe motorola produces better quality items vs acer, and motorola is an american firm so I also support american designers. Win-win for me.
As I have said before. Just so long as people keep buying android tablets that's the important thing.
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Don't forget the bezel either. It gets really annoying.
Much like why i am still waiting to buy a different dualcore phone other than the g2x. The g2x is awesome nonetheless its just the bezel that is ridiculously too much. But you get my point.
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You mean asus? I guess I should mention I have the wifi so thats not an issue. The biggest appeal for me is the USB and the screen as well. I just want more storage so I can put a bunch of movis on my xoom
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Probably the biggest appeal the transformer for me is the usb port for future external drives. However there are ways around that issue. For me I prefer the look of the xoom, I believe motorola produces better quality items vs acer, and motorola is an american firm so I also support american designers. Win-win for me.
As I have said before. Just so long as people keep buying android tablets that's the important thing.
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Its Asus actually lol
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Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
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Where did you get that from? The official website states 1GB memory:
http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#specifications
For me it's the xoom. Dual band wifi and a much small bezel/size. I purchased the Moto BT keyboard and never use it, it's a tablet. If I wanted a netbook, i wouldve bought one.
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For me it's the xoom. Dual band wifi and a much small bezel/size. I purchased the Moto BT keyboard and never use it, it's a tablet. If I wanted a netbook, i wouldve bought one.
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I bought that too, its nice but I dont see myself using it either... in class maybe but all my classes have computers in them for notes
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From the videos I've seen of the Transformer in action, it has a slightly worse viewing angle despite being an IPS panel (versus the VA in the XOOM). That said, the Transformer's panel looks more saturated. Conversely, the Transformer seems to suffer more from glare than the XOOM.
As for development, you nailed it with the XOOM being ahead at the moment. I assume that it will stay this way for a while, as the XOOM attracted a lot of early adopters and developers since it's the first official Honeycomb device.
Additional food for thought is that the XOOM has 1 GiB of RAM, whereas the Transformer has 768 MiB.
FWIW, I'd far rather have the XOOM. As such, it's what I have chosen for myself.
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The xoom has horrible viewing angles. The screen on the transformer looks way better so far and according to reviews it is way better than the xoom screen.
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I dunno..
I am not sure. I've had my xoom for about 3 weeks. I absolutely love it as its my laptop replacement.
However, the price of the Transformer is nice.. The screen tech also looks good. And of course there is working SD card and USB.
But damn, that bezel is ugly as hell on the Transformer. Reviews are also saying its plasticy.
Lastly, its hard to find a definitive answer on the software. Does Asus have a custom skin on there? I've told myself I will never ever buy a tablet or phone with a custom skin again. I am tired of waiting for updates from OEMs. This is one of the main reasons Im swapping my EVO for a Nexus S as soon as it drops on Sprint in the coming weeks.
What do all my fellow Xoom peeps think?
Only thing holding me back from immediately returning the xoom in favor odf the transformer is that the transformer apparently looks ugly and feels plasticy comparedto the xoom. I guess I gotta see it in person before I can decide.
I just bought my Xoom on the 17th from Best Buy. I have until May 1st to return it. If Best Buy has a Transformer on display, and I like it, I'll probably return the Xoom for that.
If it has almost everything the Xoom has, and I can get the keyboard dock and still walk away with $50 in my pocket from the return I'm happy.
I'm stickin to my Xoom... seems like it's better built. I didn't payf or it so the $$ factor doesnt bother me....
The bezel on the transformer is huge to make it fit in the dock, not really interested in that. Ill slap a 32 gig sdhc in and not worry about USB
I tested the transformer before I received my Xoom. For me the xoom wins hands down.
Its largley a matter of personal preference but I didn't actually like holding it, the bezzle is just too big to hold and type even if you had thumb key.
The screen really didn't look any better than the xooms maybe slightly more vivid colours. But the keyboard doesn't make sense to me on a tab, there is no USB on the tablet itself and currently only 16gb model is available.
But like I said that's all just personal taste
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Don't forget the bezel either. It gets really annoying.
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I want a bigger bezel. The bezel on the Xoom is only about 3/4 the size of my thumb. You can't hold this thing with one hand without activating the screen in some unwanted way. Maybe I just have big hands and you don't, but still this has become annoying.
The Transformer has a larger bezel to be wide enough to seat evenly with the netbook sized keyboard attachment, but I think that there's the added benefit of being able to hold onto it.
OH and the transformer is freaking $200 less... After purchasing my WiFi Xoom I find myself using it less and less. For something like this that I'm using quite casually, I don't mind a couple "flaws" (according to some) in order to save $200. Heck, when I return my Xoom I might not be buying a different tablet at all.
I'm going to return my Xoom this Sun to Costco. I love it but I'm kinda bored of it. I don't use it as much as before. The only time I use it now is when I'm in bed waiting to past out. Without XDA, I would of returned the Xoom after a few days of owning it. With the Transformer I get to save some benjamins.
After reading the Transformer Anandtech review, I would definitely get a Transformer over the Xoom... that is, if I wasn't such an aesthetic freak. The bezel size irriates me...
On a good note Anandtech says the display is "comparable to the iPad 2", and that it is definitely more impressive than the Xoom's.
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I just bought my Xoom on the 17th from Best Buy. I have until May 1st to return it. If Best Buy has a Transformer on display, and I like it, I'll probably return the Xoom for that.
If it has almost everything the Xoom has, and I can get the keyboard dock and still walk away with $50 in my pocket from the return I'm happy.
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you will be walking away -$50, the transform is $500 for the 32gb model
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was bored and went to best buy to get some kinect games<2 for 60> and played with the acer iconia and thats about it. i tapped the app icon several times and after 4 times it finally changed. swiping took a while.very laggy and unresponsive, the huwei was faster. the housing looked to be cheaply made and felt even cheaper....i do love my xoom, and i am a xoom fanboy, but i am not niaeve as to where i wont give something a chance...just wasnt impressed at all.not While i was there though, i cleaned up their xoom and installed spareparts, locked brightness to highest, changed background and loaded the xda widget... it was running alot better after i got done..anyways thats my pointless post.
The display Xooms are always laggy and generally much crappier than the actual units too.
I do understand your views of it though. I don't think anyone argues that the Acer outside hardware will be more solidly built than the Xoom though.
FWIW all the videos and reviews I see of the Iconia Tab look just as smooth as the Xoom. Its basically the same internals and same OS, there shouldn't be any ridiculous difference in user experience between them.
yeah..prob just crappy displays...still ugly imo..you cant change that!
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yeah..prob just crappy displays...still ugly imo..you cant change that!
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Definitely.
But display units always drive like crappy rental cars. Just gotta take those experiences with a grain of salt.
I played with it at bestbuy today.
It does feel much cheaper,
but the screen was noticeably better
Bought an Acer Iconia on Friday. Definitely a great device for the price. On par with the Xoom in my eyes. I ended up returning it though. Not because I was unhappy with it, but because I picked up a brand new WiFi only Xoom off Craigslist the next day for $480.
Heck I played with an Iconia and it was slower than the Xoom as well as it felt cheaper. I could grab the Iconia and flex it whereas the Xoom I couldn't.
returned my G-Tablet for Iconia A500
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was bored and went to best buy to get some kinect games<2 for 60> and played with the acer iconia and thats about it. i tapped the app icon several times and after 4 times it finally changed. swiping took a while.very laggy and unresponsive, the huwei was faster. the housing looked to be cheaply made and felt even cheaper....i do love my xoom, and i am a xoom fanboy, but i am not niaeve as to where i wont give something a chance...just wasnt impressed at all.not While i was there though, i cleaned up their xoom and installed spareparts, locked brightness to highest, changed background and loaded the xda widget... it was running alot better after i got done..anyways thats my pointless post.
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My Iconia A500 touch screen is very responsive. It was worth the $150 more over the G-tablet. Glad I bought it. Many of the reviews I've read actually prefer the Iconia to the Xoom. They're so similar, but the Iconia is $449 instead of $589
the aconia is a nice tablet played with it a bit a few days ago, still prefer the xoom for the build quality.
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Heck I played with an Iconia and it was slower than the Xoom as well as it felt cheaper. I could grab the Iconia and flex it whereas the Xoom I couldn't.
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woa thats no good. i definitely be unhappy with something like that...
my xoom is built like a tank
The Iconia feels like a Yugo after handling a Xoom. Unless the Transformer has a better exterior build I will be sticking with the Xoom.
I returned the Acer for the wifi xoom and couldn't be happier that I did. Acer is nice but the battery was weak and those cut corners really got on my nerves. The Xoom is a much better device IMO.
The thing that has bugged me a lot on the Xoom is the quality of the screen. Other than that it feels a bit unbalanced at times, but overall its a pretty good piece of hardware.
I'm hoping for a good build quality on the Transformer as the screen is supposed to be better on it.
I saw both in Currys yesterday for the first time, the Acer felt cheap and plasticy, loved the Xoom and ended up buying it.
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Heck I played with an Iconia and it was slower than the Xoom as well as it felt cheaper. I could grab the Iconia and flex it whereas the Xoom I couldn't.
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It's thicker than the Xoom. A lot thicker. Shouldnt be too much flexing going on.
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I saw both in Currys yesterday for the first time, the Acer felt cheap and plasticy, loved the Xoom and ended up buying it.
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I may be wrong but I think you guys might be talking about the Asus Eee Transformer. There is no plastic feeling about the Acer Iconia since its back is more of a metallic feel. All reviewers complain about the cheap feel on the Asus back cover area.
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All reviewers complain about the cheap feel on the Asus back cover area.
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I have read a lot of Transformer reviews (I have one!) and I've not seen any of them complaining about the plastic back being "cheap" - that's not to say such reviews don't exist, but I've not seen *any* and you've said "all reviewers" .
If anything, it feels very high quality for plastic.
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There is an xda widget?
yes there is a widget......and no...im talking about the iconia, not the
GO-BOT...unless bestbuy thought it was so poorlymade that they changed tags and put little stickers on a different tablet to trick the customer.....
Got a link to the widget by any chance?
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The Iconia feels like a Yugo after handling a Xoom. Unless the Transformer has a better exterior build I will be sticking with the Xoom.
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That is the last description I would give to the Acer Iconia A500. I have one and thats bogus. Very solid. Read the PC world review of the A500 and this guy gives the good and bads and comparison with the xoom and ipad. I might say that about the G-Tablet I sent back, but not the A500
Do you have a tablet that you are on the fence about and thinking of returning it for the new Galaxy Tab 10.1 (US model)
Maybe your tablet has more ports or a keyboard dock or Google's baby(xoom) for updates.
I'd rather have a transformer but I think I'll stick with my galaxy tab anyway
I may return my Xoom for one of these. Depends on the reviews when they're released.
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I took my Blackberry Playbook back to BestBuy today. I was actual really impressed with the Playbook. However, I feel Android is going to be the future of Tabs, and that the 8.9 would be a better every day use, portable form factor.
I managed to procure a Google IO 10.1 which will be here Monday. Really looking forward to these tablets!
Returning my Xoom for it
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My xoom.. Motorola's handling of software upgrades (canada gets sd card functionality, but nothng for the us) is a joke, the screen is marginal and it is uncomfortable to hold on long flights.
Ultimately, my xoom bricked itself and never turned back on.. Thank goodness for costco's return policy.
My G-slate already went back. Eventhough I got it for $430 with no contract...
I might try the acer w500, people are saying it handles 1080p pretty well, this doesnt, also lack of expandable memory is a killer, although 3g is the only reason ill keep it for a while at least.
A nook color I'd prefer a slate that was meant to run honeycomb.
I'm not really returning it, just giving it to my friend.
I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.
I did the same thing,now I hope the GT10.1 will not disappoint me.
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I returned my Transformer. It was kinda tough, because I really will miss the microSD, micro USB, and mini HDMI ports on the tablet, plus the ability to use the most sweet keyboard dock ever.
I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
I'm going with the Galaxy Tab because it's lighter, something I value a lot in a 10 inch tablet, even small weight differences become noticeable over time.
The Galaxy Tab just looks a lot better. I don't mind admitting I care about the appearance of my tablet. Galaxy Tab looks sleek and elegant. Transformer looked quite ugly in my eyes with it's sharp angles and extra wide aluminum bezel.
Hoping the glass on the Galaxy Tab is thicker. I could push on the Transformer glass and easily see it bending like it was some cheap resistive display. Nothing like my iPad that doesn't bend at all.
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I'm sacrificing a lot for the Galaxy Tab 10.1. But the Transformer did seem to have a lot of small annoyances too. Back was slippery. Glass was very thin. Tablet creaked a bit. Bezel was ugly. Felt a little cheap.
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If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Jocelyn said:
If you thought the back if the Transformer was slippery, then you're probably in for a surprise with the GTab. Personally, I'm not sure if I'll get the GTab or keep my Transformer.
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Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/
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Really? In a couple of reviews I read they didn't mention anything about it being slippery.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-review-google-io-limited-edition-20110511/
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I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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I was about to buy an acer iconia a500, but decided to wait for this one. I was worried about samsung forcing the touchwiz ui on top of it, but since I heard it is going to be optional I am gonna go with this for the size.
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I'm basing that off of owners who have posted in forums, not reviews. Moreover, I'm not really aware of any tablet review that's ever gone into how slippery the back of the tablet was.
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Samsung says they put an easy grip material on the back to keep the tablet from slipping.
Though looking at the back of the Google IO tablets, they look different and may not have the easy grip material, and instead got the Android tiles. So maybe the final retail Galaxy Tab will be better.
I returned an a500 yesterday to wait for this tablet to come out. Don't fail me now samsung
Returned my transformer. Many annoying problems that were mostly solved by rebooting, but once the touch screen died I just returned it to newegg.
Also returned the tf after my screen stopped responding to touch. Will be picking up the tab come June 8th
I'm really surprised with myself and I'm sure I've been shunned away from the A500 forums, but I too returned my A500 for the 10.1.
I've been a huge fan of Samsung products and I didn't want to change now. I enjoyed my A500, but I feel like the online community and manufacture support will be better with this.
I hate waiting until the 8th of June for it, but I'm willing to do it for a sleeker, thinner, lighter model. I'm a professional firefighter and I hated taking my 17" laptop to work with me for 24 hours. I was originally going to purchase the Xoom, but the price made it not worth it for me. The A500 was perfect, but again, I feel like I will gain so much more here. The HDMI, USB, and MicroSD did absolutely nothing for me. I was surprised how little I used it. I never even used the MicroSD slot.
Anyways, like everyone else on here, I'm hoping that in the end this will be a good decision.
I have been looking at getting a tablet for a while now. I have been very interested in the Adam especially for the pixel qi screen. I do a lot of reading and thought that it would be great. My question for everyone out there is what do you think the best way to go is:
Buy the Adam 1 now
Wait until the Adam 2 is released
or buy the Asus Transformer
Besides the Adam the asus kind of caught my eye, although it wouldnt be as good for reading, I love the dock and for indoor stuff like movies or what not the screen looks good.
I have tons of experience with rooting so am not afraid to get my hands dirty with the adam. Curious though, if even after rooting and flashing and what not if the adam is worth getting. And how the TF runs after root and what not
Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?
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Where the crap did this thing come from and who has even heard of NotionInk? Does it run Honeycomb or what?
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not even going to bother. ASUS Transformer all the way.
I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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I was pretty excited about the Adam and the Pixel QI screen as well when it was announced. Subsequently, I've become much less excited. The device itself seems kind of clunky, the software has never worked very well as far as I can tell (they were trying to do some cool things, but I think they might have overreached a bit), and the Pixel QI screen isn't nearly so wonderful as it sounded. In backlit mode it's a relatively low-quality color screen, while it's not nearly as good as e-ink in reflective mode.
In short, I think NotionInk tried to do too much. That's why I have my TF for some uses, and my Nook 3G (e-ink reader) for others. So far, the tech's just not there for a real all-in-one device like the Adam tried to be.
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I second that. I believe I am in the position to provide a valid comment on this having been an owner of the adam first and being a proud owner of the transformer now. Indeed I remained charmed by the adam when I read what that tiny startup in India was trying to achieve: a tablet with the an innovative hardware (the first pixelqi screen, tegra2 etc. ) and an inspiring vision.
Unfortunately, the implementation did not deliver on the promises. The the tablet was indeed buggy (software) and did not receive the honeycomb code. I therefore decided to sell it and buy the transformer: I am very happy I took that decision on time.
i remember the good old notion ink adam days, thank god it took about 4 1/2 months for a pre order invite that I gladly canceled. thing is a junk now R.I.P
What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.
I wouldn't buy a notion ink, I saw some inside pictures! PURE HORROR! Build quality is questionable at least....
I am using thre transformer for 2 month now and I am very happy.
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But more on a serious note, I wouldn't even know why anybody would want the Notion Ink. It's running on the previous generation of Android that's not optimized for tablet use (or dual core in that matter).
It's a step backwards. ASUS Transformer all the way.
This can't be a serious comparison
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What a rediculous thread, LOL. What's next? Palm Treo (circa 2005) vs Samsung Galaxy S 2?
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What everyone else has said. Transformer all the way! Still have my Adam but haven't turned it on since getting my TF about 2 months ago. I do miss the USB and I thought the speakers were fairly good. It also felt great in one hand - harder to hold the Transformer in one hand unless you grip it hard but it still feels slippery. PixelQi seemed almost worthless indoors as it is difficult to read. Screen is terrible on the Adam. If you want picture comparisons let me know.
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Would like to see pictures, yes. I quite like the idea of Pixel-Qi but have never seen one in action in person.
hmmm
I guess thats what I would love to know, is if any one has tried to two side by side. For sure the transformer is backed by a better company and has more support. Just curious if the Pixel QI screen is worth running an old android version or anything like that.
Ths has to be a joke. In no way are the two remotely comparable. Last I checked the price for that thing was near the price of the TF, possibly higher.
It's dated, the hardware is crap, the design is clunky and it has QC issues of its own so you're not going anywhere with that in terms of QC. There's literally no comparison here. It's crap.
Couple it with unimaginably poor customer service that makes Asus look like the greatest company on Earth. When I say their customer service is worse than Asus you know I mean it and it must be god awful.
They ignore your e-mails and really you have no other entity to send it back to for RMA repair than them and I think I remember they either request you send it back to their LA third party contractor or in some cases China. There was a huge forum filled with pissed off owners. I think NotionInkFans.com. If you thought this place was swamped with people making "I'm leaving" or "Good Bye" posts, that message board ****s all over this one. There must have been fifteen a day on that one.
notioninkscam.com
Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.
Despite what most people here are saying I too considered the Adam. The screen seemed very exciting as well as USB on main unit. With that screen you will never get the same quality as Asus/IPad IPS screen indoors. If reading is your main concern you could look into a Nook, but if you want an all-rounder the Transformer is tops and you have the comfort of Asus behind the warranty and not a small business enterprise.
If you considered waiting for the Adam 2, why not wait for Transformer 2? About same release date.
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Whatever you do, don't buy anything from this flimsy joke of a company.
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Actually, they aren't a scam. I had an Adam. Sold it. Yes, they take AGES to ship, but it will arrive.
I much prefer the TF. The PixelQi screen sounded good, but in practice it wasn't anywhere near the level of, say, a Kindle screen.
I really wanted the Adam to succeed prior to getting it, but have to say I have no regrets in getting the TF.
I want to buy Galaxy tab but i got few question.
I had my eyes set on Toshiba thrive because it offer more ports.But galaxy tab screen and viewing angles and lightweight made me change my decision.
1)Which one got better screen like IPS?
2)anyway to connect some kind of connector to read USB/SD cards if i get galaxy tab.?
3)Is there a moisture issue with galaxy tab?
3)which one got better battery life?
From my experience seeing all of them in person the only two tablets with nice screens are the Samsung Galaxy and the Asus Transformer, the others are washed out looking and not as vibrant.
The Asus has some build issues according to the numerous posts in the Asus forum so it made me stay away.
There is a USB/SD Reader for the Galaxy.
I don't know about the other two questions.....
I just exchanged my thrive for the tab, the thrive was good because of the ports but in my opinion the much better looking screen, lightweight, and thiness makes the tab the better choice. So far I am happier with the Samsung, not to mention I got it for $100 cheaper with the staples coupon
I had 4 Asus Transformers, each with a unique build or operational issue. I bought the keyboard, sleeve, and invisible shield. I invested alot, especially since I had to keep replacing and installing the invisible shield after every swap at Best Buy. The whole Zagg warranty is nice but not when. You pay to have it installed and then pay for shipping. Its about the same as buying a new unit. I digress.
The Galaxy Tab is what I choose. I had a 32gb SD card for the 16gb tramsformer. Its been repurposed to my HTC Evolution 4G and I bought the 32gb Tab model in gun-metal. I can tell you the ounces and millimetersbetween the Asus and Samsung are some valuable ones! It feels so much better in your hand! Thumb keyboard is much better for me on the GT. The screens are very hard to tell any difference at all, to be honest.
Now the reason I did not go with the Thrive and all its ports... I had all those same ports on the Asus Tablet and KB dock. The only thing I used was the SD card slot. Well 32gb is alot of apps and media. And if I can't survive on that, its because I'm being lazy. Lol. Also, I found my primary use was internet and communication (IM, home amd work email, work citrix, etc...) as well as some light gaming and personalization. Android can be addicting when it comes to screen and home setup. Its almost a hobby to sit and mess with it.... and with this beautiful Galaxy screen. Wow!
The Best Buy guys liked the Toshiba alot for all the ports, battery, and back cover options. I thoughtvit mattered when I got the Asus. It really didn't. I just wanted space. With the USB dongle and a small SD card USB reader or thumb driver, you can expand lightly and easily for use. The keyboard and and accessories are starting to pour out as well for the Tab. That will mean alot in case choice and the keyboard and media dock are very nice. The Asus keyboard battery supplement was nice. But bulky too.
All in all, FOR ME, form and weight won because ultimately that boosts my operations. I had to find ways to prop the Asus after long periods of handheld use, and the Thrive was bigger and heavier. So I know I made the right choice ... again for me.
So bottom line.... is form and weight going to make your expierience more enjoyable? Or will direct port access give you the pleasure pleasure your looking for? That really is what helped with my decision and I could not be happier. GALAXY Tab10.1 all the way!
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I had a look at a Thrive today (It got to New Zealand before the 10.1 for some reason) and it's got to be the most hideously ugly piece of electronic kit I have ever laid my eyes on.
Yuck. That camera bezel and its brick like appearance are massive turn offs.
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I want to buy Galaxy tab but i got few question.
I had my eyes set on Toshiba thrive because it offer more ports.But galaxy tab screen and viewing angles and lightweight made me change my decision.
1)Which one got better screen like IPS?
2)anyway to connect some kind of connector to read USB/SD cards if i get galaxy tab.?
3)Is there a moisture issue with galaxy tab?
3)which one got better battery life?
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A friend of mine from work has a Thrive and I get to play with it a lot. But I still prefer my GT10.1 and this is why:
1) The GT10.1's screen is definitely superior. It takes some getting used to the vibrancy of the colors, but PLS is a bit ahead of IPS in my opinion (have an iPad 1 and owned the TF for a while). The viewing angles are just much better. It might be just me, but the Thrive is the worst fingerprint magnet I've seen. Don't have as much of an issue with my GT10.1 in that department. Also, the higher-def encoding that Toshiba introduced for the Thrive is unnoticeable to me. My friend also agrees that my screen is better.
2) There is def. a USB connector out already from Samsung. It's a bit pricey but does the job. I haven't really had the need for it, so I didn't invest. That is one of the advantages of the Thrive. If you see yourself needing that, then consider the Thrive (I'd get it over the TF. My friend also returned his TF for the Thrive and hasn't looked back).
3) I know some people have mentioned this moisture problem, but I believe the vast majority of us have NO issues with the GT10.1 at all. People tend to talk about what's wrong with their devices rather than praise it on forums. It's natural. Coming from the Tranformer, this thing is absolutely perfect. No light bleeding, dead pixels, bending, etc. Just perfect!
4) I believe the GT10.1 has the slight advantage there. Most HC tablets will yield 8-10 hours battery life. I get days and days on standby after setting the Wireless to turn off when the screen is off. If you think about it, you don't really need your tablet to provide immediate email notifications, etc. That's what your smartphone is for. Definetely can't complain about the battery life on either device. I feel that the Thrive's tiny inferiority on this department is due to having to power the other components (USB, HDMI, etc.). I might be wrong.
Basically, my decision to go with the GT10.1 came from the fact that I already have a laptop. If I didn't have a laptop/netbook, I would have considered the Thrive more. I want my tablet as a tablet nothing more. Never did I feel the need to do anything extra on my iPad 1 and I definitely don't feel that need with the GT10.1. It doesn't get any more portable and convenient than this.
Toshiba Thrive can accept SDXC cards up to 2 TB wow!
Sorry Samsung Tab 10.1
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Toshiba Thrive can accept SDXC cards up to 2 TB wow!
Sorry Samsung Tab 10.1
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It's just too thick....there are win 7 tabs with tons of ports and more power in almost the same form factor....
I bet if you dropped the Thrive on your toe it would break your toe before the tablet. Lol. It just lacks so much in that department its a deal breaker.
If its the price you like, for the same price I'd over look the Transformer return rate, and keep returning until you get your hands on a July unit. The June units went through a less vigorous QA check to respond to demand (says the transformer forums.) Best Buy could not track which of their units were June vs. July.... or which when they would get any new ones at all(from July.)
I just needed something I could 'move into' and stay 'moved in.' There is only so many times you can setup your tablet before that is all you do is setup, tablet after tablet. I spent another $200 for the Tab10.1, but at least I am now using a tablet (and not setting it up again and again!)
The best thing to do is review the review and remarks on BestBuy.com and Amazon.com. Those reviews are easy to weed through user error and product praise or poor product.
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I just exchanged my thrive for the tab, the thrive was good because of the ports but in my opinion the much better looking screen, lightweight, and thiness makes the tab the better choice. So far I am happier with the Samsung, not to mention I got it for $100 cheaper with the staples coupon
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I did the same, looked at the Thrive at OD , then went to Staples and paid $399.99 for the Galaxy.
thrive = toughbook
ugly!!!
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Toshiba Thrive can accept SDXC cards up to 2 TB wow!
Sorry Samsung Tab 10.1
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really? don't you have a primary device?
tablets are for secondary use only
Thank you everyone for your wonderful replies. I hope Gtab won't disoppoint me.Can any pne confirm if its a PLS display screen or just a TFT ???
Regarding storage.... I just saw a GoFlex Seagate 500gb drive that is 1) battery powered, 2) wifi and Bluetooth enabled, and 3) $199 at Best Buy. With this drive you can store 300 movies and access from most mobile OS's wirelessly. Forget $100 32gb micro SD card slots. This makes much more sense to me. No more eject and insert. Just share and access.
This completely solves the question of which tablet has more ports and compatibility. Do you have wifi or Bluetooth? Yes! Issue resolved! Don't event take it out of your pocket or bag.
The Galaxy Tab has a Samsung Amoled screed. They produce it. If you've ever been shopping for a new flatscreen TV, you will already know Samsung is top of the heap. The Amoled and Tegra 2 processor are top notch in the market of mobility. To me the Amoled screen is superior to the iPAD2 and Asus TF IPS display. Every IPS display I've seen had light leaks around the edges. Not seen a single Amoled screen with such a defect.
It makes a big difference when viewing dark images or movies.
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I like my tab but it doesn't come with amoled display .... that is still only on Samsung phones.
Hopefully we will get a tablet with amoled display soon.
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Sorry! It looks very similar. I had an Epic 4G and could swear the screen was Amoled. Here are the specs, just for further questions on specs.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/GT-P7510MAYXAB-specs
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thrive = toughbook
ugly!!!
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Lol
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Seems that ever since the TP went on clearance at my local Best Buy and strangely the first generation Transformer Tablet is still available tells me there is a reason Asus is limiting the production of a great product.
Well here is some pictures. The TF300T was just as responsive as my TP and screen was bright fir indoor use. They also have the keyboard dock for $149.
Also looks like the TF300T serial will be C3OK
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They had the TF300 at my local Best Buy. They don't have them out on display yet, but one of the floor salespeople got permission to open one up and allow me to play with it. Verdict: this thing's going to be my next tablet (I currently own an HTC Flyer, which I will also keep for its portability).
Though I only held it in my hands for a few minutes, that was enough to alleviate all the concerns I had about the TF300.
1) I was worried that the blue color would be too gaudy. I've seen pictures and the hue tends to run the gamut from "nearly black" to "Tonka Toy blue." Well, in person it's a very classy, understated, beep blue. I could absolutely live with that color (even if I'd probably choose the white one if it were available now).
2) I was worried that it would feel too thick, after holding the iPad II or Transformer Prime. Well, yea, it's a little thicker, but it in no way feels thick. Feels really nice to hold, in fact. Definitely wouldn't feel like I was compromising by buying this tablet.
3) I was worried about the quality of the screen. Yes, it's no iPad 3. The screen simply doesn't hold a candle to an iPad 3. But it's as good as any other Android tablet screen I've seen, and better than the iPad II. I'm sure that the Transformer Infinity screen will be a real competitor to the iPad 3, but I don't want to wait three months and pay an additional $200.00.
My only real complain is that Best Buy seems to be stocking only the 16Gb model at the moment. Once they get the 32Gb model in (or can order one for me) I'm going to strike. I could buy it online now, of course, but I like Best Buy's 18 months same-as-cash financing, so I'm going to hold out.
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They had the TF300 at my local Best Buy. They don't have them out on display yet, but one of the floor salespeople got permission to open one up and allow me to play with it. Verdict: this thing's going to be my next tablet (I currently own an HTC Flyer, which I will also keep for its portability).
Though I only held it in my hands for a few minutes, that was enough to alleviate all the concerns I had about the TF300.
1) I was worried that the blue color would be too gaudy. I've seen pictures and the hue tends to run the gamut from "nearly black" to "Tonka Toy blue." Well, in person it's a very classy, understated, beep blue. I could absolutely live with that color (even if I'd probably choose the white one if it were available now).
2) I was worried that it would feel too thick, after holding the iPad II or Transformer Prime. Well, yea, it's a little thicker, but it in no way feels thick. Feels really nice to hold, in fact. Definitely wouldn't feel like I was compromising by buying this tablet.
3) I was worried about the quality of the screen. Yes, it's no iPad 3. The screen simply doesn't hold a candle to an iPad 3. But it's as good as any other Android tablet screen I've seen, and better than the iPad II. I'm sure that the Transformer Infinity screen will be a real competitor to the iPad 3, but I don't want to wait three months and pay an additional $200.00.
My only real complain is that Best Buy seems to be stocking only the 16Gb model at the moment. Once they get the 32Gb model in (or can order one for me) I'm going to strike. I could buy it online now, of course, but I like Best Buy's 18 months same-as-cash financing, so I'm going to hold out.
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Yes the TF300 is not bad at all for the price build quality. I have the TP and if I didn't have the TP I would also get the 32GB TF300.
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The Prime is on clearance at your local Best Buy but the TF101 is not?? How much does your store show the price being for the Prime? Their website still lists the Prime for $499.....
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I played with one at Best Buy tonight, it was on display.
I actually liked it better than the TP I had and sold a while back. The prime has some sharp edges that the 300 doesn't have, and the raised texture on the backplate was nicer to hold.
Catch is the only 300 version Best Buy offer is the 16gb version, but you can go elsewhere and get the 32gb version for only $20 more. Getting the 16gb version seems silly.
The 101 is still on sale since Best Buy has a lot of accessories still to clear out. Especially keyboards.
The Prime can be ordered again at Best Buy and has a "B1" in the product ID suffix instead of an "A1". Still full price though, so where are the clearance sales?
The Prime shows none available at Best Buy, but if you go into a store, the sales person can order at a terminal for you. They could in Lexington KY, at least, but could not before.
I do agree though that the Prime is probably being phased out of Best Buy and maybe they are purging product from their channel. The radio issues never really gave it a mass consumer chance.
fraeone said:
I played with one at Best Buy tonight, it was on display.
I actually liked it better than the TP I had and sold a while back. The prime has some sharp edges that the 300 doesn't have, and the raised texture on the backplate was nicer to hold.
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I like the TF300 better than the Prime I used to have for the same reasons. The rounded sides, raised texture on the back, and for me the slightly increased thickness do make it much nicer to hold. I also like having working GPS and better WiFi reception. I've seen a lot of people dogging the TF300 around here, which is to be expected to a certain extent in the Prime forum, but most people doing that haven't spent any quality time with one. I can understand having some concerns about the TF300 if someone has a Prime, is coming from the Prime, or was going to get a Prime, because I used to have a Prime myself and had several concerns about the TF300. But like the dsf3g said, most (if not all) of those concerns will be alleviated once you actually use one. The Prime is a great device, but the TF300 is also a great alternative. For me, the slight trade-offs with the TF300 are more than worth it for better ergonomics and improved WiFi/GPS reception.
Agreed the 300 is a better option than the Prime. Display is good, FAR better radio reception, feels better to hold and $100 less.
Still think the 510 is a better option overall, IF the dock is not needed.
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Agreed the 300 is a better option than the Prime. Display is good, FAR better radio reception, feels better to hold and $100 less.
Still think the 510 is a better option overall, IF the dock is not needed.
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I wouldn't say that the TF300 is a better option than the Prime. The Prime is great, and it has some featuers the TF300 doesn't. For some, the Prime will be the better option depending on their needs/wants. But for me, the TF300 is definitely the better option.
I've played around with the Acer 510 a little, but I just can't bring myself to purchase another Acer product after the poor experiences I've had in the past. My experience with Asus has been top notch (except with the GPS/WiFi issues on the Prime), and I'm a sucker for the keyboard dock.
The TF201 has never touched any shelf in my state, and was only seen in the store when it was being returned from an online purchase. Now I check online if the TF300 are available and practically all of them have them stocked on their shelves. Might have to wander into a bestbuy and test out their display.
On the one I played with at Best Buy, I noticed a lot of flexing and creaking in the plastic back. I literally, with very little squeeze, could squeeze the back in where I was touching together so that whatever innards there are attached to the back were touching those attached to the front. Didn't seem to make anything run poorly, or short out or anything, just felt a bit strange. I did like the rounder edges which are more comfortable than my prime. It also showed more bars of wifi reception. They had a Prime next to the 300 and the screen brightness was definitely much, much less on the 300.
I guess it all comes down to how you will use your tablet. My Prime, a C03 model, seems to not have the poor wifi that early models had and I have no problems with signal anywhere in my house or at work. I also like to sit on my back patio with it so the bright screen is necessary. If one has a weaker router or longer distance to router, and doesn't need to use it outside I would say the 300 would be a fine tablet to get.
I picked up a TF300 at my local BestBuy on Monday. To my surprise, the unit was configured with 32GB of memory (not 16GB). The box label clearly states "16GB EMMC" and the serial number on the tab matches the box. It's priced at $379.99 US
I think ASUS slipped the wrong tablet into the box at the factory.
dsf3g said:
They had the TF300 at my local Best Buy. They don't have them out on display yet, but one of the floor salespeople got permission to open one up and allow me to play with it. Verdict: this thing's going to be my next tablet (I currently own an HTC Flyer, which I will also keep for its portability).
Though I only held it in my hands for a few minutes, that was enough to alleviate all the concerns I had about the TF300.
1) I was worried that the blue color would be too gaudy. I've seen pictures and the hue tends to run the gamut from "nearly black" to "Tonka Toy blue." Well, in person it's a very classy, understated, beep blue. I could absolutely live with that color (even if I'd probably choose the white one if it were available now).
2) I was worried that it would feel too thick, after holding the iPad II or Transformer Prime. Well, yea, it's a little thicker, but it in no way feels thick. Feels really nice to hold, in fact. Definitely wouldn't feel like I was compromising by buying this tablet.
3) I was worried about the quality of the screen. Yes, it's no iPad 3. The screen simply doesn't hold a candle to an iPad 3. But it's as good as any other Android tablet screen I've seen, and better than the iPad II. I'm sure that the Transformer Infinity screen will be a real competitor to the iPad 3, but I don't want to wait three months and pay an additional $200.00.
My only real complain is that Best Buy seems to be stocking only the 16Gb model at the moment. Once they get the 32Gb model in (or can order one for me) I'm going to strike. I could buy it online now, of course, but I like Best Buy's 18 months same-as-cash financing, so I'm going to hold out.
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All I could take from this review is that you put a $500 device on credit for 18 months. We really do live in a "must have it now society".
Actually, it's only $400...
ls3mach said:
All I could take from this review is that you put a $500 device on credit for 18 months. We really do live in a "must have it now society".
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379.99.
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Or 399.99 for the 32gig
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leroybrute said:
379.99.
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i got my 16GB for $345.
jblah said:
i got my 16GB for $345.
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Got my tf300t 32gig at office depot for 379.99 with Walmart online ad. So neener neener! Haha
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leroybrute said:
Got my tf300t 32gig at office depot for 379.99 with Walmart online ad. So keener keener! Haha
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thats what i thought i was getting too but they messed up and send me the 16gb one..and said i could either send it back or they could take $35 off..so i went with that.
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thats what i thought i was getting too but they messed up and send me the 16gb one..and said i could either send it back or they could take $35 off..so i went with that.
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I remember reading about that happening to others also.
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