Hello all,
i like XDA Forums for its master brains and respect it for all the support.
i used windows mobile and android on different HTC devices and enjoyed all the interesting things in it with the help of XDA.
now i wanted to try motorola milestone and got it and it was a sheer disappointment.
Motorola milestone users are ignored very badly by motorola without updating the buggy phone and not even caring to reply users queries. its even deleting all the users posts in developer forums. it locked down the bootloader with digital signatures when the same device in US "Droid" has got all the cakes with open bootloader and custom roms and device updates for issues. recently it has announced 2.1 for droid where milestone still didn't even get 2.0.1
i see ano place to report this and motorola wantedly deleting all such posts in their support forums. as this is common android section, thought i can post it here and see if any master brains can help us.
check here where a continent itself is complaining against motorola and there is no single reply or action for this
Thanks for understanding
its bound to happen really, the Droid is Motorola's gem now and it will be the one shown off and given what it needs ahead of other devices.
Same with HTC and there devices, there flagship one's get the bug fixes and new updates while lesser models dont.
I'm sure the Milestone will eventually get what it needs.
What do you mean by locked down boot loader?
as far as i understand the bootloader in milestone is little different than in droid. the milestone bootloader uses digital signatures everywhere to check for the software authentication which makes it impossible to put custom ROMs as we do with all other android phones.
even motorola is very slow in updating the issues with milestone. i don't understand why they are doing this but its like completely locked down and totally ignored fir the price everyone payed.
hello admins / moderators / master brains / everyone,
is it possible to check the Motorola milestone bootloader for bypassing the digital signature check so that we can install custom roms on it as its done on Droid.
please take this as a kind request as i lost hope on motorola releasing the open bootloader on milestone and they r very slow in releasing updates for this device and also ignorant in resolving most bugs.
i see that you are supporting non HTC devices like samsung, toshiba and Acer. so a little hope that its posible to look into this
please everyone
i am not a big techie to understand internals of the possibilities but you can see how many people want this on here http://www.facebook.com/motorolaeurope
Thanks to all for reading this
Motorola Milestone and Droid feature the same Hardware (while Droid is CDMA and Milestone GSM) but they did not get the same software build.
Droid = with Google (Maps Navigation etc.)
Milestone = Motorola Android (Multitouch, Motonav etc.)
Thanks to TI, M-Shield is available on both devices. With M-Shield it is possible to control booting and flashing.
While the Droid does accept every signature, the Milestone is locked to (probably) one.
So there we are.
Kernel without signature will not boot (blocked by Bootloader).
Flashing another modified Bootloader is not possible without signature.
Barnd83 said:
Motorola Milestone and Droid feature the same Hardware (while Droid is CDMA and Milestone GSM) but they did not get the same software build.
Droid = with Google (Maps Navigation etc.)
Milestone = Motorola Android (Multitouch, Motonav etc.)
Thanks to TI, M-Shield is available on both devices. With M-Shield it is possible to control booting and flashing.
While the Droid does accept every signature, the Milestone is locked to (probably) one.
So there we are.
Kernel without signature will not boot (blocked by Bootloader).
Flashing another modified Bootloader is not possible without signature.
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all this has already been figured out. what they want to know now is how to un-fudge it so that they have the same abilities as dream and other android users. I have been reading EVERYTHING i can find on the matter, as i REALLY want a milestone. id just get a droid, but i HATE verizon and am staying on t-mobile no matter what phone i hafta use. so im stuck on g1 till the milestone gets figured out. what i have been thinking is that the signature is a key, so there must be a keyhole, right? if we could find and disassemble the "keyhole", could we not then reverse engineer a key?
All this locked/unlocked nonsense is making me want a milestone even more, just so i can help figure this out and give motorola a big "F-U" for what they are doing. because thats basically what they've done, they've told all their customers to go F*&$ themselves. well, just the ones outside of the US.
Honestly i dont see how motorola made it this far with a slogan like, "Go F*&$ Yourself", but whatever. thats why i HATE verizon, because they dont give two ****s about their customers, as long as they get paid. and thats what motorola is doing here...they dont CARE what milestone users want, as long as they keep selling milestones, and controlling EVERY ASPECT of them.
doesnt sound like an OPEN SOURCE attitude, to me...
-BMFC
Milestone 2.0.1 had been released before you wrote that post actually (it was released on feb 4th).
if you didn't get the update OTA yet you can even get it through their website
I assume you're in Germany so try here hxxp://direct.motorola.com/GER/SoftwareUpdateSummary.asp?country=DEU&language=GER&web_page_name=SUPPORT&strCarrierId=&strPhone=MILESTONE
chowdarygm said:
where milestone still didn't even get 2.0.1
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now the hope is gone and i decided to sell my device. its such a dumb company which doesn't care about end users.
HTC is far better in these things without putting hard restrictions.
You must have missed the hooplah that surounded the era of phones HTC put out around the Tilt. Crap video drivers etc....
HTC is just like Motorola. They go where the money is, although I say Motorola went a little overboard with the signed bootloader, it still runs rings around the Hero and most other aandroid devices short of Desire/ Nexus One.....
I've had a D2 since day 1 and I'd like to get another one for my wife. But I discover they're no longer selling them. Just great. Is the Droid 2 Global close enough to make use of all the same accessories? Namely the docks?
I'd rather us both have "the same" phones for the sake of support. She's upgrading from an ancient flip-phone. For work everything's done on her Blackberry, so carrying two devices isn't a problem. I'd rather not have to deal with trying to explain how an HTC handles things a little differently. And it'll be a cold day in Hell before we ever buy an Apple products. The keyboard is a requirement, that and the X2 is just too large.
So can I still get *new* Droid 2 phones anywhere? I really don't want to get into used stuff for this.
all accessories should work fine on the d2g, i have a multimedia dock myself and it works, just keep in mind that if you want to mod the phone and put a custom rom on it, d2 roms do not work on it.
Hello from Germany,
I hope my questionn isnt considered nonsense. Today, ive seen a good offer for the Motorola
Lap dock (was around 100 Euros). Since the Atrix and the Milestone share the mini usb and seem do be pretty similar in general (concerning the case)l i was wondering, if there is
any way to make the Milestone work in this special dock.
I love the idea of having a notebook-smartphone hybrid but dont want to change my phone (love the milestones keyboard).
Looking forward to hear what you guys think!
No
The answer to this question is simple no.
I have both the atrix and the milestone 2 and they don´t look to similar. Also the Lapdock needs a hdmi port of the atrix, the milestone hasn´t got one. Further more atrix is a dual core phone and has more ram. And thats not even the software site of it.
Sorry to say but this part is not useable for the milestone 2.
Were have you seen the lapdock for 100€?
thmedia
I'm switch to an unlocked Droid Pro from my Verizon Droid RAZR M. I know this is a downgrade, but I'm switching to a prepaid plan, and I just couldn't handle not having a physical keyboard any more.
I know I'll want to root and ROM my Droid Pro. I used to have a Droid 2 Global and I hated the 2.2/2.3 Motoblur junk that was on it. I never rooted my RAZR M because the newer moto software is actually pretty slick.
What is the smoothest ROM out there for the Droid Pro? CM7?
I think I already found a ported version of Smart Actions (which is great if you haven't tried it), but I'd still like to find a ported version of the Motorola Circles Widget. Anyone know where to find that?
Does Z4root still work for rooting the Pro? I know that used to be in the market.
I'd appreciate any advice about making this phone run as smooth as possible, I'd really like to avoid as many headaches as possible coming from such a newer and faster phone.
Thanks in advance!
Anyone interested in a charity case? I'm curious if it's possible for someone to make a JB ROM for the Defy Pro XT560. I was able to root the device using a procedure for the Motorola Motoluxe, but even with all the time I spent on my Captivate, that's as far as I can get on my own.