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Is this even possible on our phones? I have no DLNA capable monitors so Im out of luck with that option
guttus said:
Is this even possible on our phones? I have no DLNA capable monitors so Im out of luck with that option
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do you have a PS3? or a computer hooked to a TV screen?
i have a ps3 and i wanna do this
haldi15 said:
i have a ps3 and i wanna do this
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Download a app called Twonky, it's free. start the Twonky app, while your connected to Wifi, once it's on fire up the ole PS3. you can stream stuff from your phone to your TV via the PS3. I do it frequently.
here is a cable for the g2x that does micro usb to hdmi...dont know if it will work since i havent seen anything that could enable/disable the feature on our phones
if you buy something similar, please post results
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-6ft-Micro-U...ccessories&hash=item3a6651dfbe#ht_1453wt_1139
VibrantOwnr said:
here is a cable for the g2x that does micro usb to hdmi...dont know if it will work since i havent seen anything that could enable/disable the feature on our phones
if you buy something similar, please post results
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-6ft-Micro-U...ccessories&hash=item3a6651dfbe#ht_1453wt_1139
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Lol wtf. The G2x uses a separate microHDMI port, not its microUSB port. This cord would likely be what will be used for the Sensation when it is released. I am not 100% sure, but I believe video out via this method (called MHL) requires slightly different internals than the standard microUSB port, thus would not work on phones lacking these internal differences.
I really want a phone with a Hdmi out port but it seems not to many Htc phones have this I been considering trading my phone for a G2X but I really love this phone but I would love to be able to watch movies from my phone on a TV. Being I travel from N.Y to Pa. a lot and I don't own a Ps3. I just don't think the G2x is better and they don't have to many Roms over there.
lol look at the dates.
--sent from my glacier.
I have done my research and can't seem to find a solid answer, has anyone had the chance to test one, or recieved an official response from Sony? Cheers
Nope, consumer versions of the Xperia Play do not support HDMI out, even on the LiveDock.
The only Xperia Play phones that support HDMI out are dev phones.
The current dock (DK300) has no HDMI out support but I believe there is a new dock coming sometime soon that will support it.
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The current dock (DK300) has no HDMI out support but I believe there is a new dock coming sometime soon that will support it.
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I think that's the one he's asking about ( the new one)
Read this post there's a little info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17107876&postcount=25
It comes from this trhread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234259
Regards Dousan...
yep that's the one! from the youtube videos it seems to just use the micro usb port for everything (including tv-out functionality) so I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I haven't found any confirmation that it does...
Dousan said:
I think that's the one he's asking about ( the new one)
Read this post there's a little info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17107876&postcount=25
It comes from this trhread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234259
Regards Dousan...
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@ dousan. As you can see in this video. It defo only uses the USB port for HDMI out. Not the HDMI port like we was talking about in that other thread. The HDMI port on the Arc is on the top like the power button on the play. The dock has the HDMI port on the back
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhr6AuPLwmU&feature=related
But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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Watch the video, you can clearly see the USB and HDMI port on the back of the dock
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subcu1ture said:
But that is not how it connects to HDMI. The dock does not support HDMI. It is the phone hardware.
As in the other thread there are photos of how they connected it to the TV.
The USB device connects to the device, the charger connects to the device and uses that same cable. The then connect to the HDMI on the TV via the HDMI port on the phone.
The Dock is not an all in one solution.
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Do you think there's a way to spoof the phone to bypass the 'buffer' the dock creates? I don't see why SE didn't just put the hdmi port on the PLAY.
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Watch the video, you can clearly see the USB and HDMI port on the back of the dock
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Infact to be honest. I can not tell if that is a USB or HDMI port on the back of the dock. lol
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You are wrong.
That is a standard usb connection and a micro usb connection and that is not how the phone connects to the TV.
Watch the 2.3.4 Xperia software update video.
>_< This is what i was trying to explain the whole time in the other thread and now to know that you thought that was an HDMI out port means you didn't even follow the pictures I posted.
Another video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHRgdEA__LA
This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
hairdewx said:
This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
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Thanks, so this has been officially confirmed? Does this phone use a different type of micro usb port to the other xperia phones then? Is it a hardware or software limitation (ie could a hack be produced)?
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This has been discussed before on the official Sony Ericsson forums. The consumer release Xperia Play does not and will not have HDMI out capabilities with or without the LiveDock.
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Yes but recently the same marketing division said :
I can confirm that the following is available for the Xperia Play based on your question's once the update has been released.
Enhanced camera capabilities from Sony including 3D sweep panorama
The software upgrade enables consumers to turn their Xperia smartphone into a mini-mobile PC by connecting USB peripherals (mouse, keyboard or game controller) to Sony Ericsson LiveDock™ multimedia station. Connect the smartphone to a TV via HDMI to get a big screen experience
I can also advise that there are currently no plans for HD 720p recording for the Xperia Play.
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Which has added to the confusion.
crimsonnight said:
Thanks, so this has been officially confirmed? Does this phone use a different type of micro usb port to the other xperia phones then? Is it a hardware or software limitation (ie could a hack be produced)?
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It's a hardware limitation, they took it out of the specifications before release.
The LiveDock would basically act as a pass-through, not a hardware solution.
It is possible to get video through the USB port, but at very low refresh rates, like 1 frame per second.
ASM is one tool:
http://code.google.com/p/android-screen-monitor/
And there are other remote desktop applications that can produce video out through USB with slow refresh rates.
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You are wrong.
That is a standard usb connection and a micro usb connection and that is not how the phone connects to the TV.
Watch the 2.3.4 Xperia software update video.
>_< This is what i was trying to explain the whole time in the other thread and now to know that you thought that was an HDMI out port means you didn't even follow the pictures I posted.
Another video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHRgdEA__LA
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Calm down. It's no big deal. I did follow your pictures but wondered if there was another way to connect. As i thought some of the other xperia devices supported by the dock didn't have HDMI out. I now concede defeat. Guess i'll have to dig out my PS1 to play FF7 on my TV
The thing that catches my eye is that he clearly states it's for the play but the section about hdmi and USB peripherals it only says xperia smartphone's, not xperia play? That's confusing me.
Regards Dousan...
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The thing that catches my eye is that he clearly states it's for the play but the section about hdmi and USB peripherals it only says xperia smartphone's, not xperia play? That's confusing me.
Regards Dousan...
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It's just a script they get given to read out. Thats why. The people sony employ usually know little about the products there ment to be supporting
What i find weird is that in the service menu via - *#*#7378423#*#*
There is options to turn HDMI on or off and also test it.
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What i find weird is that in the service menu via - *#*#7378423#*#*
There is options to turn HDMI on or off and also test it.
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Yeah but it also has Irda test in it, so I imagine this tests are standard, and not especially designed for the Play.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best ones, and Analogix Slim Port technology certainly qualifies as both. It's a cabling solution that allows you to mirror what's on your phone or tablet's screen to your TV via microUSB -- instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections. Of course, as an OEM, Analogix won't be selling the cables when they go on sale this summer, but retailers like Belkin and BizLink will probably be put one in your bag for around $20 or $30 bucks.
-engadget
So now we can connect our beloved Play to that TV XD
I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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i dont get you guys it clearly says it uses the MICRO USB port on the mobile device i mean how much more clearer need it be regardless ive sent an email to analogix and will tell u guys what they say
Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Why do we have two threads about the exact same thing I dont know
But i'll post the same thing I did over in the other one
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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I wasnt aware of that fact
you got a source i can see for my own eyes? thanks
also my points is still valid. the device aint outputting video as it sits now
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
A bit off topic, but I don't think I ever posted this while I was analyzing the play for HDMI.
According to the kernel, the Dev plays have this chipset and all Plays have the drivers for it: http://www.analog.com/en/audiovideo-products/analoghdmidvi-interfaces/adv7520/products/product.html
And this can be seen on the Dell Streak: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Dell-Streak-Teardown/3512/2
Now, I tore apart my Play (when I had it), and I can confirm that that chip is NOT on my retail r800i. This means that there is no "hidden" port or some unfilled solderpads that can be used to attach a microhdmi. There is NO support on the retail motherboard for it. You can't even buy the ADV7520 chip because there are no space on the retail motherboard for it.
There's no chip or hdmi port on the play I've watched dissasemblies of all types r800a,x,I
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There is a solution where you connect to a bluetooth HDMI dongle using your bluetooth and its specific app to stream phone content onto the screen, I think it was mentioned on Engadget but I cannot seem to find the link for it.
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check the spec sheets. Also, notice that the Play has Dev units with HDMI out and they don't lag a little.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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so your dev unit theory is irrelevant because our plays contain none of the architecture to run this setup with hdmi.
would have to find another solution.
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I don't have a theory, as I don't care one bit about TV output of any kind. However, you mentioned that the PSP wasn't powerful enough to beam out content, which is not a problem in the Xperia Play (or Arc and Neo for that matter).
Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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Thats because it used VNC. VNC lags on anything.
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Pretty sure it didn't
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Why do people keep saying "the play has no HDMI transmitter" if you read the OP, with this cable the HDMI transmitter is built into the jack, the device does not need one
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FINALLY someone bothers to actually read the goddamed article
So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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So the USB Device registers itself as.. what exactly ?
I mean, the play still has to send it's image to the dongle either way.
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The adapter is probably accompanied with an app. Although the app would need root acces, atleast I think so.
whilst i think this would be an awesome piece of kit if it works as intended, im a little curious as to how it actually works, afaik the cpu sends its work to the gpu for output, the gpu processes it, and outputs it to the display....so how exactly does the usb port get the information from gpu...maybe easy with root access on one device...but making it work on a wide range of devices would be crazy hard.
im not gonna straight up bash this, because they have said its a vendor agnostic solution, so im assuming they have worked out some technical magic with no downsides to pull this off. I'm all for being proved wrong, i just want to see it in action.
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You do realize that PSP is less than 1/3rd the Xperia PLAY's overall capability, right?
PSP also couldn't handle any form of graphical MMOs.
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First statement is a bit overstated.
By capability the gpu in the PSP has a fillrate of 30 million polygons/s
I believe our Adreno has 52 mil/s
Plus instead of the capability I believe it was the limitation of USB speeds that affected the computer mirroring software.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/analogix-slim-port-technology-lets-you-connect-your-phone-to-you/
link says it all but yeah i am SOO GODAMNN HYPED finally after the wait some clever sons of *****es save the day!!
Not sure if this will work on our Xplay... Try to not hype before a real confirmation.
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I think it doesn't work like that... you have to have the tech on your phone (Mobility DisplayPort (MYDP) digital interface) it then allows uncompressed video/audio from a phone over display-port and also allows usb transfer modes
http://www.interconnectionworld.com/index/display/wire-news-display/1578435639.html
It won't work on the play
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As I thought...
Miles Wolf said:
Not sure if this will work on our Xplay... Try to not hype before a real confirmation.
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As I thought...
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sorry but all im reading is that it will use the micro-usb port to mirror the phones images onto a monitor/tv it doesnt say anything about having a certain technology i refuse to call dibs on this one alongside this " instead of needing an extra HDMI or MHL port. Analogix's secret sauce is on a chip embedded in the jack portion of the cable and because it's based on DisplayPort technology, it can connect using HDMI, VGA, or DVI connections"
It might be software based. Can never put anything past a software solution.
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
Why doesn't someone just try it out lol
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psxpetey said:
Why doesn't someone just try it out lol
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read article and you will see its not even released yet
probably will never come to light
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Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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PSP remote play? Didn't lag for me on usb n wifi
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Hogwarts said:
Do you think that TV out is just going to magicly work when you plug in USB LOL
FYI your usb port is never outputting video lol. you would have to run some type of program to do it and that will use CPU power
When have you ever plugged usb into your PC and a message comes up "Would you like to mirror image on your screen?"
You guys know the PSP actually had software written for it that allowed USB mirror to desktop and it lagged the device so badly most games weren't playable anymore
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PSP mirroring lag would be explained by the USB itself and the limited ram
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amansth said:
PSP mirroring lag would be explained by the USB itself and the limited ram
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Not to mention the limited CPU speed/technology, 333MHz I'm amazed it could even boot...
RemoteJoy on the psp?
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I want to connect my Nexus to my PS3 via HDMI cable so I can play "on the go". I have a HDMI to MicroHDMI adapter and a HDMI cable, Nexus isn't rooted yet.
So is this possible? it would be kind of nice to be able to do.
Thanks.
Edwardayy said:
I want to connect my Nexus to my PS3 via HDMI cable so I can play "on the go". I have a HDMI to MicroHDMI adapter and a HDMI cable, Nexus isn't rooted yet.
So is this possible? it would be kind of nice to be able to do.
Thanks.
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Unfortunately it's impossible to do a hardware based video input. Wireless however though I'm not sure.
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I would do some searching around and see if there is anything PS3 related to display mirroring and then see if they use display mirroring standards that would recognize the Nexus 10 running something like AirDisplay.
It's definitely possible via PC or Mac to Android but my guess is anything that is available for PS3 is going to be something where you'll need to ability to run homebrew on PS3. Also, keep in mind, at least with my Mac to N10 experiences, I am only getting frame rates in the neighborhood of 5-10fps, so that's not going to cut it unless you've got a checkers or chess PS3 game.
Does your device has Dlna ? you may use it