As the title implies, I will be acquiring a nexus s soon. I currently have an epic 4g I'm trading even to this girl that hates touchscreens lol
Anywho, I love my epic. I'm sure ill love the nexus s also. I was hoping to get some input as to where this community is at the developing stage. What some of you guys are most excited about, and what kind of performance and experience you guys are getting from your modded nexus'.
Cheers!
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Welcome buddy. Pretty much the development is great. Just about every rom here is straight aosp and has no issues lol. Just make sure u read before flashing because not all roms are nexus s and nexus s 4g compatible.
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Esteway.619 said:
Welcome buddy. Pretty much the development is great. Just about every rom here is straight aosp and has no issues lol. Just make sure u read before flashing because not all roms are nexus s and nexus s 4g compatible.
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I was wondering about that lol. I noticed there are 2 development forums now for both the GSM and cdma versions so it should be relatively easy. I just have to translate what I know from the epic to the ns4g as I'm sure they're somewhat similar when it comes to flashing them.
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RushAOZ said:
I was wondering about that lol. I noticed there are 2 development forums now for both the GSM and cdma versions so it should be relatively easy. I just have to translate what I know from the epic to the ns4g as I'm sure they're somewhat similar when it comes to flashing them.
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Ya it is. I had the epic so I can tell u there's a few little difference but not really lol. If that makes scene. To root it shabbypenguin made a good 1 click root
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You wont miss your epic one bit.
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Welcome, I recently switched from my evo, this phone is much better. No bloatware.
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Rem3Dy said:
You wont miss your epic one bit.
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I doubt I will lol like I said I love this phone. The keyboard is awesome. But I'd rather give it up for a thinner phone I can put a case on and it won't feel like my old HTC tytn2. Also I'm sure the ns4g will be getting ice cream sandwich relatively quick. Also, where's cyonogen mod at with cm7 on the ns4g?
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Cm7 is at nightly 95 for the past few days. Someone hacked something. I forget what but hasn't got anew nightly. However it's very stable.
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RushAOZ said:
I doubt I will lol like I said I love this phone. The keyboard is awesome. But I'd rather give it up for a thinner phone I can put a case on and it won't feel like my old HTC tytn2. Also I'm sure the ns4g will be getting ice cream sandwich relatively quick. Also, where's cyonogen mod at with cm7 on the ns4g?
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CM7 is super stable and is at a code freeze so only small bug fixes are being made. The website for the Linux kernel source was hacked and until that has been verified no files were harmed no new nightlies can be compiled. Nightly 95 is the latest and is awesome.
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So you are getting it good I love mine been developing for it the day I bought it and its much more stable modded than galaxy phones when you begin hacking away at it.
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I have a nexus s also.gingerbread is great.there's still some issues -,maybe you can help.the gps is not accurate enough and the memory is 300mb instead of the 512mb you see in the specs. Help???
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furiousm said:
I have a nexus s also.gingerbread is great.there's still some issues -,maybe you can help.the gps is not accurate enough and the memory is 300mb instead of the 512mb you see in the specs. Help???
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Memory is 512mb. Some of that 512 is allocated to the GPU for performance.
GPS works fine for me on CM7 nightly 95
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Tnx for your message
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furiousm said:
I have a nexus s also.gingerbread is great.there's still some issues -,maybe you can help.the gps is not accurate enough and the memory is 300mb instead of the 512mb you see in the specs. Help???
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Are you sure its the GPS that has issues or is it the compass? There is a known issue with the compass on the Nexus S. Not sure when it'll be addressed, but Samsung/Google are definitely aware.
- chris
Whoo! Got my nexus! Running miui with matrix cfs [email protected] jiggawatts! I'm loving this. Except for no 4g. but I love thus rom so much its worth not having the 4g. That says alot. I hope they fix if soon lol
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Whoo! Got my nexus! Running miui with matrix cfs [email protected] jiggawatts! I'm loving this. Except for no 4g. but I love thus rom so much its worth not having the 4g. That says alot. I hope they fix if soon lol
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We miss out on a lot of thing when we had epics huh.
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Esteway.619 said:
We miss out on a lot of thing when we had epics huh.
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Yea lol I kinda wanna start a thread and see how many users actually defected from the epic. Seems I'm very not alone lol
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I defected from iPhone 4. Best thing ever. Should have done it sooner.
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Would I be able to use roms for the regular nexus S on my ns4g or would it not work right?
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Won't work.
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Thx
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I also came from the E3D, hated it lol. Why did you decide not to keep it?
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I also returned my EVO-3D for the Nexus-S 4G. I am a sucker for this Super AMOLED screen and pure stock. I am rooted with Oxygen 2.2.1 ROM and Matr1x 5.5 kernel. Phone is smooth as water and good battery life.
I had the EVO 4G too was just getting sick of a heavy brick phone. And the screen look washed out. Compared to the EVO 4G the Nexus-S feels like a big upgrade in tech. Compared to EVO-3D the Nexus is on par speed wise I just like the form factor better on the Nexus fits in the hand perfectly.
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Addictedtothegreenguy said:
Would I be able to use roms for the regular nexus S on my ns4g or would it not work right?
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there are plenty of good roms for the nexus s 4g. just download rom manager and download a few. I like CM7 nighties with matrix cfs kernel. A lot of people like MIUI (it is closed source, so no 4G... and 3G speeds suck in my area). Hell, even stock rooted kicks the EVO's ass! There are plenty of good ROMs though, you'll be happy with any of them I think.
I'd honestly recommend Oxygen 2.2.1. Fast, stable, and has theme engine just incase you get bored with one color lol.
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I'd honestly recommend Oxygen 2.2.1. Fast, stable, and has theme engine just incase you get bored with one color lol.
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I love Oxygen too..
Zorachus said:
I also returned my EVO-3D for the Nexus-S 4G. I am a sucker for this Super AMOLED screen and pure stock. I am rooted with Oxygen 2.2.1 ROM and Matr1x 5.5 kernel. Phone is smooth as water and good battery life.
I had the EVO 4G too was just getting sick of a heavy brick phone. And the screen look washed out. Compared to the EVO 4G the Nexus-S feels like a big upgrade in tech. Compared to EVO-3D the Nexus is on par speed wise I just like the form factor better on the Nexus fits in the hand perfectly.
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This. I love my NS4G. it's one of the most beautiful phones in the market, the screen and form factors are PERFECT, I really hope the next Nexus phone has a similar form factors cause i won't be getting a 4.3+ inch phone... I haven't really gotten to root my phone cause i love how smooth stock is but i might look into that Oxygen rom.
Definitely recommend Oxygen ROM it is a pure stock rom but gets rid of the bloat and speeds everything up. But still makes the phone look and feel like stock.
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Klk450 said:
This. I love my NS4G. it's one of the most beautiful phones in the market, the screen and form factors are PERFECT, I really hope the next Nexus phone has a similar form factors cause i won't be getting a 4.3+ inch phone... I haven't really gotten to root my phone cause i love how smooth stock is but i might look into that Oxygen rom.
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Next nexus will be 4.5"
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Man, I'll check Oxygen after reading this post, but buglesspete's aosp has been superior for me so far.
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driguez said:
Next nexus will be 4.5"
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Has that been 100% confirmed? if it is, i guess i won't be buying it.
Damn I'm running Pete's Tom because I remember bugless roms from the Evo. Oxygen on the other hand was voted most stable and reliable rom on the DHD is it the same guy? And I left the E3D because it wasn't like oooo super cool like I thought it would be and i wanted this phone anyway at first so I said hey why not. Plus sense for boring.
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Try miui, it's mad cool. I've never tried oxygen but buglesspete's rom is stable and fast.
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Miui was the first thing I flashed on my NS4G because I was dreaming of it on my E3D
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Just out of curiosity, how many of you guys defected from the epic 4g? I did and I have no regrets. Not a comparison thread by any means. Just curious.
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Plenty of us lol and plenty of us Fromm the epic deflected from the moment before that I know I did lol
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I just follow dreams around lol j/k
Seriously though, I went moment ---> epic ----> nexus 4g
NYYFan325 said:
I just follow dreams around lol j/k
Seriously though, I went moment ---> epic ----> nexus 4g
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Haha lol think I might do the same. Dude is helpful.
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Thanks guys! I try cause I know I was lost when I first started my first root I was more nervous than loosing my virginity XD
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dreamsforgotten said:
Thanks guys! I try cause I know I was lost when I first started my first root I was more nervous than loosing my virginity XD
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Lmao
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Another ex epic user
/dreams fan. Don't make him go dreams on your as $&#@
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Paleryder said:
Another ex epic user
/dreams fan. Don't make him go dreams on your as $&#@
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Lmao I forgot about that! Things don't get that rough around the nexus forums.
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I was more nervous than loosing my virginity XD
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Your virginity was loose?! Grosssssss! (was too easy, couldn't let that one go lol)
I also came from the epic! LOL what a failure that phone was compared to the nexus S! Dont regret a thing!
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I also came from the epic! LOL what a failure that phone was compared to the nexus S! Dont regret a thing!
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Me 2 and agreed. In development but it was still a good phone. But I love my nexus
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Another ex epic user. Epic was a solid phone but it was no nexus.
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difrent7 said:
Another ex epic user. Epic was a solid phone but it was no nexus.
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Haha yup that's true. I don't think any phone can compare to the nexus.
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I also had the epic.. I loved that phone but just had to see what pure android was about. Not going to lie I do miss some touchwiz features
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castro08 said:
I also had the epic.. I loved that phone but just had to see what pure android was about. Not going to lie I do miss some touchwiz features
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Same for me. Lol
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LOL Me! i just got my Nexus S like 2 days ago and i'm already all "eff epic"... It was an awesome phone though, but i just can't understand why samsung would release a phone with so many things NOT working.
I'm selling my epic now cause the old lady needed a captivate on att so now I got epic captivate and nexus and a empty bank but this is going to be the hardest sale for me if it goes. For a mp3 player and hd camera/camcorder it will cost more to replace thoseand in those areas the nexus can't compare.
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Count me in. Camera is worse here, but tbh never used it terribly often.
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corythug said:
Count me in. Camera is worse here, but tbh never used it terribly often.
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i am unsure what you are trying to say.
anyways i just defected a mere 20 minutes ago. i got a 2 day old nexus 4g for 160 bucks i wonder if this was a good deal. anyhow i still have the epic. i am awaiting for a remanufactured one to come to me and once i get it i will root it mod it and page plus it for my moms.
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i am unsure what you are trying to say.
anyways i just defected a mere 20 minutes ago. i got a 2 day old nexus 4g for 160 bucks i wonder if this was a good deal. anyhow i still have the epic. i am awaiting for a remanufactured one to come to me and once i get it i will root it mod it and page plus it for my moms.
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i got mine for $150 haha. was yours used? i got mine brand new unopened. and your screenname has my name in it lol Edson
I want to say my thanks to everyone for everything for helping me out when I first came here to xda asking noob? Thanks to mystery for SRF 1.2, Decad3nce for cm7. ,rodderick for genocide, all the themes from the great themers like shane for honeycomb fusion ringold for transparent 1.3 & to the God Father John Corleone thanks for answering my? Whenever I pm him? thanks I just got a nexus &gave my mom my epic
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See you on the other side
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Thanks for the kind words. Prepare yourself for the lion's den. Its a madhouse over there already...lol. This is where the family is at.
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corythug said:
See you on the other side
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If I got any? Is it cool if I pm you if I get stuck I plan on rooting this bad boy this week!!
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Killasmoke said:
If I got any? Is it cool if I pm you if I get stuck I plan on rooting this bad boy this week!!
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Yeah man go for it. There is a 1 click if your not familiar with using adb.
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corythug said:
Yeah man go for it. There is a 1 click if your not familiar with using adb.
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Just watched qb king video 1 click 3.0 I'm rooted just got cm7 & about to get miui!!! I want Samsung & sprint to get gingerbread out for epic its a Great phone if the epic would of had 2.3 I would of not got the nexus I loved the epic now its my moms who coming from iPhone so she all confused dosent know how to use it yet lol I told her the iPhone a smart phone but androids a genius phone 150 on the IQ!!!
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Oh man, I thought you were getting an ET4G. I am thinking of getting the Nexus myself. Enjoy all of the ROM options!
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JohnCorleone said:
Oh man, I thought you were getting an ET4G. I am thinking of getting the Nexus myself. Enjoy all of the ROM options!
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Noooooo, we need your stamp on the GB ROMs
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Noooooo, we need your stamp on the GB ROMs
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The taste of Miui I just got on this phone may have won me back over. I think that anything is possible if someone has the will to do it. I flashed a bunch of builds that hung at the Sammy screen and seemingly overnight things started happening fast. With my luck, Gingerbread would get released the day after I didn't have this phone anymore. I think I was just going through withdrawls from not flashing for a couple of days. Also, after seeing what the ET4G forum is like, I am happy to be a part of this one...I'm not going anywhere any time soon...and thanks
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Yep, as much as I wanted the ET4G, I'm glad I didn't go to the sperm bank now
Its just to many things better coming down the pipe, and the Epic is still Epic by all accounts, and it has a keyboard, so, I'm happy. And this place is much better then that place lol.
I ain't going to lie I like the epic 4g forum guys here help when you need it & all the funny post people put up that made me laugh my balls off lol it only took me 1 day to root & flash I like my nexus its sexy! But the epic to me has better video & picture quality & more memory there's give & take with both phones I got a brand new nexus for free at best buy & payed 30$ for some buy back program in 6 months I can bring it back & they will give me 50% of what it cost retail 350$!!! & then I could use that towards the nexus prime the E4GT or whatever ever phone I like
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If anyone wants any specific tests done........
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....between the Epic, Epic Touch, and Nexus....
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...let me know exactly what you would like to know and I will compare/contrast the features
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I had a Guy who wants me to give him my evo for his galaxy s 4g. Should I do it? I know the galaxy has a 5mp camera and a .3 in the front although Samsung makes some dam good sensors. I also know its 16 gigs built in memory vs my 8 gigs with expandable memory. No notification light and a smaller screen. Hmm I don't know what to do lol help please. Thanks in advance.
EDIT : CRAP can a mod please move this to evo 4g general? Sorry been up for 26 hours. I know no excuse.
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No. It's nice at first but you will soon realize it's a piece of crap. The camera is the only advantage it has over the EVO.
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If its the original Galaxy S, no go. Keep your evo.
My mistake its actually the nexus s 4g. What do u guys think?
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I say keep the EVO.
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My mistake its actually the nexus s 4g. What do u guys think?
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I say keep it. You'd be better trading it to sprint for a galaxy s II or waiting for the should be galaxy nexus.
I don't know what people are smoking, but if you are getting a trade for a Evo vs Nexus S 4G, absolutely do it! There are many threads here comparing the 2 and the Nexus always wins.
Hmm so I should trade it then
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I'd do it, especially since you're not jeopardizing an upgrade. NS is definitely a step up.
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mad82109 said:
Hmm so I should trade it then
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Up to you nexus s is decent from what iv heard dk if it has signal probs might want to look for that as Sammy seems to have issues with it.
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Had the e4gt and HATED it. Loss of service is NOT worth dealing with.
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If u like sense i would stay with the evo. Nexus radio is weaker. Both are great phones and still have life left in them. Personally i like the evo line better.
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My evo is rooted I hated sense. Running deck 1.3 .
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i have the evo, my wife has the nexus s 4g. i love her phone a bit more. it's much more sleek, just as fast. if it were me i would probably trade.
I had the ns4g for a day. Couldn't stand the lack of microsd slot and the lack of a notification light. I ended up exchanging mine for an EVO and haven't looked back.
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droiddawg said:
I had the ns4g for a day. Couldn't stand the lack of microsd slot and the lack of a notification light. I ended up exchanging mine for an EVO and haven't looked back.
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yeah. i don't really care about either of those things. i know a lot of people do though! i say go check out a nexus s in a store
Swings and Roundabouts imo.
You probably have a preference already. Go with it.
Still thinking about it lol
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I bought my wife and daughter each a NS4G on launch day bth Its faster and slimmer but i still like my evo better. I like the bigger screen and im stuck on MikG roms with the wired theme. The color saturation on the NS4G is horrible IMO. Too yellow. Keep the evo.
Got this phone on the 8th super awesome! Coming from evo3d land.
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Wish I could agree, my NS4g has given me so much crap since I got it when I switched to Sprint. My Samsung vibrant was a way better.phone :c
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ECOTOX said:
Wish I could agree, my NS4g has given me so much crap since I got it when I switched to Sprint. My Samsung vibrant was a way better.phone :c
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I'm sorry to here that.
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ECOTOX said:
Wish I could agree, my NS4g has given me so much crap since I got it when I switched to Sprint. My Samsung vibrant was a way better.phone :c
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I think your not rooted lol
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ECOTOX said:
Wish I could agree, my NS4g has given me so much crap since I got it when I switched to Sprint. My Samsung vibrant was a way better.phone :c
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I have used Vibrant and IMHO its a piece of crap compared to Nexus but i was using stock rom .Nexus S is much better IMHO.There are so many roms that you can flash..Vibrant was really slow and touchwhiz sucked.
ECOTOX said:
Wish I could agree, my NS4g has given me so much crap since I got it when I switched to Sprint. My Samsung vibrant was a way better.phone :c
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Vibrant better than Nexus...you are probaly the 1st to say that...lolz
This phone is awesome
I've had so many phones, just sold my HTC Raider LTE and bought this thing not knowing what it was like. The only thing I miss is HD video recording and the camera. Otherwise for a phone that isn't dual core, this puppy is fantastic. I unlocked the boot loader and rooted last night and things just got even better. I don't regret my decision 4 days in.
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jayjay3333 said:
Vibrant better than Nexus...you are probaly the 1st to say that...lolz
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The vibrant gave me so much **** when I had it
The nexus on the other hand is pretty awesome
But in all honestly I like my og epic the most
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The vibrant gave me so much **** when I had it
The nexus on the other hand is pretty awesome
But in all honestly I like my og epic the most
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I loved my 3d but I got to admit nexus s is just an awesome phone!
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my love!!!
I agree, this is the first time that I could care less about new devices. I'm perfectly happy.
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Me too, I just bought a new tablet, ASUS Transformer TF300. But this is my favorite!
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I love this phone too!
I've had this phone for 4 months now and let me just say that because of the devs here, my nexus s has been such an amazing device. It's pretty cool what this "old" phone can do with all the different ROM and kernel combinations available. I've gotten so much outta this guy it just blew my mind.
I've recently switched to a galaxy nexus but I just really wanted to say thanks and this seemed like an appropriate place to do it.
Thanks to awesome devs here can our lovely Nexus S easily beat lots of new smartphones with bazillion cores and tons of RAM.
Yes me too am still loving my NS that I bought at Xmas.
I'm not really interested in any other phone for the foreseeable future. I was looking at the Galaxy Nexus and thinking of purchasing one this Xmas if they drop really low, but I find the size of the NS absolutely perfect.
At the moment I'm very happy. Best phone I've ever bought.
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Me too, I just bought a new tablet, ASUS Transformer TF300. But this is my favorite!
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I was looking at that tablet. Is it any good?
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Six months ago, and got so far no per gram do not regret buying
This is my first smartphone, no problems, just great!