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Having recently come back to Android from BB, leaving back when the Magic was only just on it's way out, I'm slightly behind on things.
I have rooted and overclocked my Milestone 2 to 1.25ghz ULV but am curious as to whether it would use less power than the stock clock running at stock voltage.
Any input is appreciated
Ben
generally speaking both the voltage and current have influence on it but in my experience i think it's might related to the voltage . high voltage use more power
What voltage are you using?
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I'm using stock Droid overclock Ultra Low Voltage settings
I'm using 1.35ghz / 68 vsel
i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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i want to know if its safe to overclock my samsung vibrant to 1200 mhz. will doing that shorten the life of my phone in any way.
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It will definitely shorten the life of the battery. As for the phone itself I can't really say. I used to use my vibrant @ 1200mhz daily while running bionix 1.3.1. I never really noticed any wear and tear from the overclocking. If your phone runs warm while overclocking you should really consider running the stock voltages. Your phone may overheat and fry your cpu gpu with the high temperatures. So be careful when overclocking.
Meh i dont completely agree...
It will only shorter the life of your battery because the processor will draw about 20% more power which is very small compared to the like 20x more power the lcd takes up.. i dont think youll feel the difference.
The heating up i disagree with too since ive seen processors reach boiling point of water and continue to work.. thats not to say they all will but ive oced my phone to 1.6ghz to benchmark for several minutes and it never got above 41*... the battery heats up alot more when its charging than the processor does most of the time so i wouldnt worry tooo much about that.
Now as to whether the phones llife will lower... yes probably.. youre putting more stress on the processor than if you dont oc.. honestly tho, processors dont die very often so i oc all day as my daily runner, usually to 1.4ghz if my kernel will do it..
Up to you and honestly all of this is my opinion based on my available info etc.. hope this helps
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I have mine Oc to 1.5 and no issues. 1.5 is the Max I would go.
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Everything I have read says 1200 is completely safe. I run mine at 1460 with no issues. It obviously draws more battery but using Voltage control app you can adjust the level of battery.
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
Like everyone else said, you ought to be perfectly fine with that value.
The highest I would go is 1500 though
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You would be fine with 1.2Ghz, but look into a kernel that supports some slick CPU scalers (smartass is a good, easy choice). You can set that (1.2Ghz) as a max clock and you can let the scaler determine how it gets there (if need be). Running only 2 clocks (OC and deep sleep) seems a bit overkill to me, but to each their own.
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Lol, running an overclock on a phone seems a bit overkill to me...
Think about this.. How much copper is strapped up to your phones cpu?
Would you overclock your desktop on a stock cooler?
I feel sorry for the saps who buy phones second hand(especially after reading this thread). (hey wait a minute, that's me too.. Lol)
I never overclock anything.
Ever.
(learned my lesson with an amd Duron 733 back in the day)
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Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.
If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it!
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If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it!
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If i don't but you know then u can tell me about any risk.
NOTHING is without risk, but a good place to start is just to install the latest Siyah S3 Kernel and run it it at 1.6ghz for the CPU and default settings for the GPU. I tried running my CPU at 1.7 and 1.8 and the it wasn't 100% stable and the temps were to high for my liking. Be moderate in your settings and you shouln't encounter any issues.
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ latest version is 1.7rc1
That will give you a good performance bump with the minimum of risk (in my opinion).
Other than that installing a bloatware free ROM will also give a nice bump. I personally run Omega V29 with the above 1.6 overclock settings and it lightning fast. :good:
There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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nodstuff said:
There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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could u plz tell me that what is the process of undervolt if i undervolt the cpu then it is related to only heat or performence also?
If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.
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1.7ghz should be alright for a 32nm chip like the exynos 4412 on our s3. HTC has had their One S (with a 45 nm chip) clocked at 1.7 ghz. The lower the nanoneter, the more ambitious you can be with clock speeds. Try 1.6 or 1.7 ghz with default voltage settings and see how that goes
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nodstuff said:
If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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You are using -100 undervolt, that mean its high current & mean if i select 25 to 50 then its less current than 100??? & is there any battery improvement if i select less current mean less heat.?
I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?
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I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?
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Yes atleast while it's using the higher clock speeds.
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What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?
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What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?
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siyah, its most beginner friendly wih stweaks (for ICS you should check 1.5 version if its still obtainable, however should be)
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Antutu and Quadrant, all are just bull****. Just to see their manipulated scores, overclocking does not make any sense.
At ground level, applications do not run anything faster as overclocking alone does not work here. Even if you get milli milli milli second improvement which is just nothing against damage of CPU.
Got it?? now start using your phone as it should be and made for.
Before overclocking you should ask yourself Why you want to overclock. If it's because the phone have some lags there is other(safer) way to solve this problem. Honestly I overclock mine for a while (just because I'm a tester) but the S3 is fast enough for everything. You should see my S3. The app drawer appears (almost) instantaneously. Any games play smoothly etc...
On this phone overclocking is possible but useless. If you want to learn how to overclock just to learn how, search in the stickies for the overclocking guide.
I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.
When I play pokemon black 2 on nds4droid without overclocking it gives me 20 to 30 fps and when I overclock it to 1.7 GHz i get 28 to 35 fps
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Firstly you need a kernel supporting overclocking... Secondly its fine if u wanna play around with your device... Lastly I would suggest u to overclock it to 1704 MHz max (avoiding any boot loops )....
I would recommend Siyah 1.9.1 (as your Kernel) and "Noop" as your I/O Scheduler... In case ure using Siyah as your Kernel, try using "Lulzactiveq" as your governer...
Furthermore u can tweak the governer if u want more juice out of it....
Try it.....
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I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.
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Lag can be reduced by tweaking your governer and some other settings... U don't have to underclock it...
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I have tried overclocking to1600, and although Quadrant stats are higher, I did not notice any difference in normal usage. I am a general usage text and phone calls and email user. Minimal game playing. I stick to 1400 now and everything seems just the same!!
At the moment I am running Sotmax rom and boeffla kernel.
Hope this helps.
Hi,
I'm reading topics like franco kernel or faux kernel or cpu binning, and i don't understand what undervolting is using for... And how doing it ?
Plus, i don't understand what cpu binning is for, even if i get there is cpu slow and some fast.
Thanks for your answer !
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AutruiP said:
Hi,
I'm reading topics like franco kernel or faux kernel or cpu binning, and i don't understand what undervolting is using for... And how doing it ?
Plus, i don't understand what cpu binning is for, even if i get there is cpu slow and some fast.
Thanks for your answer !
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The binning decides which voltages you can run your cpu on, those with better "quality" cpu (faster) can run a lower voltage. This does not affect frequencies, so you don't have to worry if you have a nominal binned cpu for example.
As a general guideline, I've read that faster can be undervolted -150 mV, fast -100 mV and nominal -50 mV.
YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY, SO ALWAYS USE PRECAUTIONS WHEN DEALING WITH UNDERVOLTNING. USE ON YOUR OWN RISK
How to find out which binning you have and more information:
IAmAN00bie said:
Hey fellow Nexus 4 owners, I heard a lot of rumors that the "Nexus 4 uses left-over parts" from the Optimus G. To that end, I want to find out the general quality of our CPUs.
Basically, when Qualcomm makes the APQ8064 chip that you see in our Nexus 4, there are 4 different "types" based on how it meets their quality standards. These are Slow, Nominal, Fast, and Faster. The main difference IIRC between these types is how stable each can handle undervolting. CPUs that are "Fast" for example come pre-configured at a lower nominal voltage than a "Nominal" type CPU, and more so than a "Slow" type. (Does this account for how some people's phones generate less heat? Maybe, maybe not. IIRC, there's like only a -100mV difference between Faster and Slow out of the box, however Faster CPUs should be able to handle lower voltages than Slow-type.)
To find out what binned CPU you have, I recommend the following:
YOU MUST BE ROOTED!
1) Install Terminal Emulator
2) Reboot your phone
3) Open Terminal Emulator, and type:
Code:
su
dmesg | grep PVS
A line should be outputted that tells you what type you have.
For example, mine is NOMINAL. http://i.imgur.com/MUXrs.png
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Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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AutruiP said:
Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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It only affects battery (mostly temperature actually). Basically how good your chip is determines how much voltage it requires to run at a certain speed. Because not all chips are created equal and the manufacturer has to make sure that all of the chips run stable, they set the voltage levels at a conservatively high number. This means that unless your chip is the worst chip that LG expects to produce, you can run your cpu at lower voltages than stock.
It was theorized that the binning of the cpu would be a good indicator of how good your chip is but it looks like it might not be the case.
To undervolt, you have to first flash a kernel that supports it (most custom kernels do) and then download an app like Franco kernel updater or system tuner and you can start adjusting voltages.
Some things to note before you start: if you undervolt too low your cpu becomes unstable which means it will freeze your phone and force it to restart. This does NOT damage anything physically so don't be afraid of it. But this means that you should not have the app set voltages on boot while you are experimenting with them. This would open up the possibility that you set a voltage to an unstable level, forcing your phone to reboot, upon which the app will reapply the instable voltage. This will keep you in a boot loop and force you to re flash the kernel) and/or rom. Just keep it manual until you have set of stable voltages.
Good luck!
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Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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I have a nominal one. The default for the lowest frequency (384, i dont remember exactly) is 900. I made a -150 for all frequencies. it has been running for 3 days without a restart. And for my own feeling, games as well as the whole phone run normally. And when running games, it is less hot than using the default one (900).
Hm, i see, thanks !
Another (and i hope the last one) question, how could i know if i set the voltage to the right value ? Is this any app for testing if it crash ?
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Hm, i see, thanks !
Another (and i hope the last one) question, how could i know if i set the voltage to the right value ? Is this any app for testing if it crash ?
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Basically if it runs, you're fine. You want to find the lowest voltage for each frequency at which your phone will run normally. One way of doing this is setting your min and your max cpu frequency to the one that you're testing and adjust the voltage and run a cpu intensive task like a benchmarking or playing a video. However, I find that they are a little more finicky than that and you may find that in normal usage, a voltage that you tested doing that will still crash your phone.
I personally do it over a week or so normally using my phone and gradually adjusting the voltages down to the lowest stable
Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum frequency our Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU's can handle??
Thanks peoples lol
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What's the point in over clocking on the n4? Are the improvements actually noticeable for anything besides bench testing? Meaning is it noticeable when doing day to day activities? The reason i ask is because my phone has handled everything I've thrown at it with no issues so far.....just curious I guess
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Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum frequency our Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU's can handle??
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I see absolutely no point in over clocking this device, even under clocking the nexus 4 you get plenty of power.
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Hey guys, just wondering what the maximum frequency our Snapdragon S4 Pro CPU's can handle??
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If you use trinity kernel, you will be able to oC to 1.8Ghz. It used to be able to OCable to 1.9 but I think there were substantial issues with that level. Overclocking will ruin the CPU life span. Overclocking is more suitable for computers. This phone is really quick and smooth out of box. Overclocking it is redundant.
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Does anybody here even understand what overclocking is?
Why oh why do people feel the need to overclock a Quad core device with 2 gigs of RAM.
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Why oh why do people feel the need to overclock a Quad core device with 2 gigs of RAM.
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Good question but, to answer the OP 1.94GHz is the max. More may be possible however, no one is foolish enough to risk 2Ghz+.
Okay let's set this straight:
More Overclock --> Faster speed --> Lower stability
Increasing Voltage --> More stability --> Higher temperature --> Dangerous
To be able to achieve a higher clock speed, you need to have a higher CPU voltage in order for it to be stable. If you don't increase the voltage, the CPU will churn out corrupted data, and in the worse case files will become corrupted as they are written into memory. But it WON'T damage your hardware. However, because you are increasing the voltage, you get more heat, which can damage your hardware. So it's actually the overvolting bit that is dangerous, not the overclocking.
As for maximum clockspeed, you might find this article interesting:
"Theoretically, your upper limit would be due to the propagation delay in sending electrons from one point to another, which would be the speed of electricity. Electricity travels close to the speed of light and light travels a foot in a femtosecond (10E-15 s) so the top speed is somewhere in the 10E22-10E23 Hz range. However, this limit will never be reached as this assumes no capacitance and no resistance in the wire."
- Source: Mu_Engineer (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250325-28-limit-clock-speed) -
1 GHz is 10E9 Hz, which is nowhere close to 10E22. Even taking into account the resistance of the circuitry, 10E9 is still very low. So 1.94 GHz is simply the maximum STABLE clockspeed you can normally achieve on a Nexus 4. In addition, developers might impose arbitary limitations on how much you can overclock your CPU, but that's just a software limitation.
In conclusion, the answer will depend on which of the following questions you actually want answered:
1) What is the highest stable clockspeed the XDA community has managed to achieve without external aid (i.e. liquid N2)?
2) What is the highest clockspeed allowed by currently available kernels?
3) What is the physical clockspeed limit of the Snapdragon S4 Pro assuming external aids are allowed? (E.g. connecting your CPU to a higher voltage source directly while keeping it cooled with liquid helium. Even then it would probably only lasts for a few seconds.)
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Okay let's set this straight:
More Overclock --> Faster speed --> Lower stability
Increasing Voltage --> More stability --> Higher temperature --> Dangerous
To be able to achieve a higher clock speed, you need to have a higher CPU voltage in order for it to be stable. If you don't increase the voltage, the CPU will churn out corrupted data, and in the worse case files will become corrupted as they are written into memory. But it WON'T damage your hardware. However, because you are increasing the voltage, you get more heat, which can damage your hardware. So it's actually the overvolting bit that is dangerous, not the overclocking.
As for maximum clockspeed, you might find this article interesting:
"Theoretically, your upper limit would be due to the propagation delay in sending electrons from one point to another, which would be the speed of electricity. Electricity travels close to the speed of light and light travels a foot in a femtosecond (10E-15 s) so the top speed is somewhere in the 10E22-10E23 Hz range. However, this limit will never be reached as this assumes no capacitance and no resistance in the wire."
- Source: Mu_Engineer (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250325-28-limit-clock-speed) -
1 GHz is 10E9 Hz, which is nowhere close to 10E22. Even taking into account the resistance of the circuitry, 10E9 is still very low. So 1.94 GHz is simply the maximum STABLE clockspeed you can normally achieve on a Nexus 4. In addition, developers might impose arbitary limitations on how much you can overclock your CPU, but that's just a software limitation.
In conclusion, the answer will depend on which of the following questions you actually want answered:
1) What is the highest stable clockspeed the XDA community has managed to achieve without external aid (i.e. liquid N2)?
2) What is the highest clockspeed allowed by currently available kernels?
3) What is the physical clockspeed limit of the Snapdragon S4 Pro assuming external aids are allowed? (E.g. connecting your CPU to a higher voltage source directly while keeping it cooled with liquid helium. Even then it would probably only lasts for a few seconds.)
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Why don`t you overclock it yourself and post your findings here, overclocking the N4 is useless imo and only nice for those kicking on benchmarks.
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Why don`t you overclock it yourself and post your findings here, overclocking the N4 is useless imo and only nice for those kicking on benchmarks.
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I won't because at the moment I fail to see any reason why anyone would need to OC their Nexus 4. So yes I am agreeing with you.
However, OP asked for the highest clockspeed, not for opinions on whether OC is useful. Saying that OC is useless in response to his question is similar to telling someone that they should eat at Burger King instead when they ask you for directions to MacDonald's. It doesn't make your statement any less true, but you are not answering his question.
With some Kernel like Faux you can OC up 1.94Ghz (Turbo Boost Ultimate) but not all CPU hold this frequency.
I think 1.83Ghz (Turbo Boost Mainline) is more reasonable.
Both Kernel just mentioned also OC GPU to 487Mhz.
Personally i don't Think we need to OC our Nexus 4, I've never seen a phone so fast
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Thanks for all the responses, I agree with all answers given....the N4 doesn't need anymore Nos lol I was just curious thanks again guys and girls (if any) lol
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Yep I OC like crazy and love it. I use faux @ 1.9 UV -125 across the board, fast cpu bin:good: no problems or issues to cry about...
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Yep I OC like crazy and love it. I use faux @ 1.9 UV -125 across the board, fast cpu bin:good: no problems or issues to cry about...
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Your CPU is not going to have a long life. You're wearing it down dude.
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Your CPU is not going to have a long life. You're wearing it down dude.
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It will have a long life more then the length he'll keep the device.
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