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Galaxy S3 overclocking

Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.

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sfjuocekr said:
If you don't know what you are doing, then don't do it!
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If i don't but you know then u can tell me about any risk.

NOTHING is without risk, but a good place to start is just to install the latest Siyah S3 Kernel and run it it at 1.6ghz for the CPU and default settings for the GPU. I tried running my CPU at 1.7 and 1.8 and the it wasn't 100% stable and the temps were to high for my liking. Be moderate in your settings and you shouln't encounter any issues.
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ latest version is 1.7rc1
That will give you a good performance bump with the minimum of risk (in my opinion).
Other than that installing a bloatware free ROM will also give a nice bump. I personally run Omega V29 with the above 1.6 overclock settings and it lightning fast. :good:

There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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nodstuff said:
There is always a risk involved in overclocking.
1.8ghz isn't stable for most people but 1.7 is quite stable.
How well your device handles overclocking depends on the quality of the chip you got.
This is down to the manufacturing process, you may get a good chip from the middle of the wafer or a not so good one from nearer the edge.
if you want to reduce heat them you should undervolt the CPU, less current means less heat.
Obviously it isn't good for the hardware in the long run but that's what you gotta take into account when you overclock, I've overclocked every phone I've ever had and haven't had any problems but YMMV.
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could u plz tell me that what is the process of undervolt if i undervolt the cpu then it is related to only heat or performence also?

If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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mrjoy said:
Hello guys. I just want to take information that there are many tweaks to overclock galaxy s3 to max 1.8 ghz. If we set to maximum overclocking then is there any risk for damage hardware? Because 2 months before i had nokia n8 & i set this device to overclock & it damaged all board,now its totally destroyed. According to my point of view,sometime i think that nokia n8 has only 680 ghz & due to overclock it run on higher clock speed & so that due to low processor it could not manage or handle the higher clock speed & it ran on heavy clock speed continuesly then overload of processor it got damaged. It is my fear for s3. And i think for s3 that it has higher processor with 1.4 ghz,if i set it to 1.8 ghz then there is no risk bcoz of there are cpu governor. With this,the s3 does not run continues on 1.8 ghz higher speed, governor takes control over the cpu to run on higher clock speed according to their high usage like 200 ghz, 500ghz, 800 ghz, 1.4ghz & so on. So i think i can overclock my galaxy s3 with kernel but I'm still confused & I'm not expert. So plz suggest me to do overclock without any damage fear. Thanx a lot.
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1.7ghz should be alright for a 32nm chip like the exynos 4412 on our s3. HTC has had their One S (with a 45 nm chip) clocked at 1.7 ghz. The lower the nanoneter, the more ambitious you can be with clock speeds. Try 1.6 or 1.7 ghz with default voltage settings and see how that goes
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nodstuff said:
If you use siyah kernel then in the stweaks app that comes with it you can choose how much you want to undervolt.
I suggest starting with -25mv or -50mv and check stability.
I use -100mv without problems but like in said earlier YMMV.
It doesn't give a performance boost per se, but less heat in the chip will mean that it doesn't hit the temperature throttle threshold as easily and that means more performance.
The CPU will begin to throttle (limit clock speed) at around 75c until the temp drops and the CPU is allowed to run at max clock speed again.
Usually you will only hit the temp throttle threshold under very heavy loads, for example repeated benchmarks.
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You are using -100 undervolt, that mean its high current & mean if i select 25 to 50 then its less current than 100??? & is there any battery improvement if i select less current mean less heat.?

I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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nodstuff said:
I am using -100mv, as in minus 100mv, 100mv less than stock.
Less current is less heat and *maybe* battery savings.
-100mv is less current than -50mv.
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I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?

andmax66 said:
I am new to all this just one question, will over clocking drain the battery quicker?
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Yes atleast while it's using the higher clock speeds.
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What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?

DenethorLenwion said:
What's a good kernel for overclocking for the stock I9300 running ICS (don't have the JB yet)? Will the latest Siyah work?
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siyah, its most beginner friendly wih stweaks (for ICS you should check 1.5 version if its still obtainable, however should be)
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Antutu and Quadrant, all are just bull****. Just to see their manipulated scores, overclocking does not make any sense.
At ground level, applications do not run anything faster as overclocking alone does not work here. Even if you get milli milli milli second improvement which is just nothing against damage of CPU.
Got it?? now start using your phone as it should be and made for.

Before overclocking you should ask yourself Why you want to overclock. If it's because the phone have some lags there is other(safer) way to solve this problem. Honestly I overclock mine for a while (just because I'm a tester) but the S3 is fast enough for everything. You should see my S3. The app drawer appears (almost) instantaneously. Any games play smoothly etc...
On this phone overclocking is possible but useless. If you want to learn how to overclock just to learn how, search in the stickies for the overclocking guide.

I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.

When I play pokemon black 2 on nds4droid without overclocking it gives me 20 to 30 fps and when I overclock it to 1.7 GHz i get 28 to 35 fps
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Firstly you need a kernel supporting overclocking... Secondly its fine if u wanna play around with your device... Lastly I would suggest u to overclock it to 1704 MHz max (avoiding any boot loops )....
I would recommend Siyah 1.9.1 (as your Kernel) and "Noop" as your I/O Scheduler... In case ure using Siyah as your Kernel, try using "Lulzactiveq" as your governer...
Furthermore u can tweak the governer if u want more juice out of it....
Try it.....
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Mr Faeces said:
I have tried overclocking and undervolting for the last week now and I can say that overclocking has not made any visible difference to my S3. Overclocking seems to be a nice option to have, but the S3 does not need it. Undervolting on the other hand reduces lag considerably when playing games for long periods. Usually my S3 started to get laggy after about 1 hour of Asphalt, but now it does not get laggy at all. I have undervolted by (-)125.
Hope that helps.
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Lag can be reduced by tweaking your governer and some other settings... U don't have to underclock it...
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I have tried overclocking to1600, and although Quadrant stats are higher, I did not notice any difference in normal usage. I am a general usage text and phone calls and email user. Minimal game playing. I stick to 1400 now and everything seems just the same!!
At the moment I am running Sotmax rom and boeffla kernel.
Hope this helps.

[Q] Undervolting and cpu binning ?

Hi,
I'm reading topics like franco kernel or faux kernel or cpu binning, and i don't understand what undervolting is using for... And how doing it ?
Plus, i don't understand what cpu binning is for, even if i get there is cpu slow and some fast.
Thanks for your answer !
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AutruiP said:
Hi,
I'm reading topics like franco kernel or faux kernel or cpu binning, and i don't understand what undervolting is using for... And how doing it ?
Plus, i don't understand what cpu binning is for, even if i get there is cpu slow and some fast.
Thanks for your answer !
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The binning decides which voltages you can run your cpu on, those with better "quality" cpu (faster) can run a lower voltage. This does not affect frequencies, so you don't have to worry if you have a nominal binned cpu for example.
As a general guideline, I've read that faster can be undervolted -150 mV, fast -100 mV and nominal -50 mV.
YOUR MILEAGE MAY VARY, SO ALWAYS USE PRECAUTIONS WHEN DEALING WITH UNDERVOLTNING. USE ON YOUR OWN RISK
How to find out which binning you have and more information:
IAmAN00bie said:
Hey fellow Nexus 4 owners, I heard a lot of rumors that the "Nexus 4 uses left-over parts" from the Optimus G. To that end, I want to find out the general quality of our CPUs.
Basically, when Qualcomm makes the APQ8064 chip that you see in our Nexus 4, there are 4 different "types" based on how it meets their quality standards. These are Slow, Nominal, Fast, and Faster. The main difference IIRC between these types is how stable each can handle undervolting. CPUs that are "Fast" for example come pre-configured at a lower nominal voltage than a "Nominal" type CPU, and more so than a "Slow" type. (Does this account for how some people's phones generate less heat? Maybe, maybe not. IIRC, there's like only a -100mV difference between Faster and Slow out of the box, however Faster CPUs should be able to handle lower voltages than Slow-type.)
To find out what binned CPU you have, I recommend the following:
YOU MUST BE ROOTED!
1) Install Terminal Emulator
2) Reboot your phone
3) Open Terminal Emulator, and type:
Code:
su
dmesg | grep PVS
A line should be outputted that tells you what type you have.
For example, mine is NOMINAL. http://i.imgur.com/MUXrs.png
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Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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AutruiP said:
Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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It only affects battery (mostly temperature actually). Basically how good your chip is determines how much voltage it requires to run at a certain speed. Because not all chips are created equal and the manufacturer has to make sure that all of the chips run stable, they set the voltage levels at a conservatively high number. This means that unless your chip is the worst chip that LG expects to produce, you can run your cpu at lower voltages than stock.
It was theorized that the binning of the cpu would be a good indicator of how good your chip is but it looks like it might not be the case.
To undervolt, you have to first flash a kernel that supports it (most custom kernels do) and then download an app like Franco kernel updater or system tuner and you can start adjusting voltages.
Some things to note before you start: if you undervolt too low your cpu becomes unstable which means it will freeze your phone and force it to restart. This does NOT damage anything physically so don't be afraid of it. But this means that you should not have the app set voltages on boot while you are experimenting with them. This would open up the possibility that you set a voltage to an unstable level, forcing your phone to reboot, upon which the app will reapply the instable voltage. This will keep you in a boot loop and force you to re flash the kernel) and/or rom. Just keep it manual until you have set of stable voltages.
Good luck!

AutruiP said:
Is running a lower voltage is dealing with performances or only with battery ?
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I have a nominal one. The default for the lowest frequency (384, i dont remember exactly) is 900. I made a -150 for all frequencies. it has been running for 3 days without a restart. And for my own feeling, games as well as the whole phone run normally. And when running games, it is less hot than using the default one (900).

Hm, i see, thanks !
Another (and i hope the last one) question, how could i know if i set the voltage to the right value ? Is this any app for testing if it crash ?

AutruiP said:
Hm, i see, thanks !
Another (and i hope the last one) question, how could i know if i set the voltage to the right value ? Is this any app for testing if it crash ?
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Basically if it runs, you're fine. You want to find the lowest voltage for each frequency at which your phone will run normally. One way of doing this is setting your min and your max cpu frequency to the one that you're testing and adjust the voltage and run a cpu intensive task like a benchmarking or playing a video. However, I find that they are a little more finicky than that and you may find that in normal usage, a voltage that you tested doing that will still crash your phone.
I personally do it over a week or so normally using my phone and gradually adjusting the voltages down to the lowest stable

[Q] Questions about undervolting Nexus 4.

Hello!
I heard about the term "UnderVolting" and I heard it would give me better battery life.
I want to do it but I have few questions before.
1. Is undervolting affects the CPU , GPU or Battery?
2. Can It damage the device?
3. Can it decrease the device performance?
Thanks!

Wassupdog said:
Hello!
I heard about the term "UnderVolting" and I heard it would give me better battery life.
I want to do it but I have few questions before.
1. Is undervolting affects the CPU , GPU or Battery?
2. Can It damage the device?
3. Can it decrease the device performance?
Thanks!
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1. It effects the cpu. When you undervolt you are reducing the amount of power that is supplied to the cpu depending on what speed the cpu is running at.
2. It is unlikely to damage the device physically but if you undervolt too far the cpu can start failing actions resulting in corruption, but the most common symptom is that it will reboot itself if you go too low.
3. Undervolting can reduce performance but going down -100 mv across the board is usually stable for most.
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Alex240188 said:
1. It effects the cpu. When you undervolt you are reducing the amount of power that is supplied to the cpu depending on what speed the cpu is running at.
2. It is unlikely to damage the device physically but if you undervolt too far the cpu can start failing actions resulting in corruption, but the most common symptom is that it will reboot itself if you go too low.
3. Undervolting can reduce performance but going down -100 mv across the board is usually stable for most.
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Thanks!
Is it recommended to undervolt?
I just want a better battery and around the same performance as it now.

You are confusing undervolt with underclock. UC is a proven way to increase battery, but it directly makes the CPU run slower. UV will make the CPU/GPU/RAM receive less milivolts, and it will only increase battery, and not decrease performance. The thing with UV is that if the CPU at any given time does not get enough power, it can't perform a given task, and your phone will reboot.
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In a nutshell UV will not destroy your phone and is it recommended? If you are in xda then you know the risks or at least should read up on the risks. I would say 90% of the custom kernels are undervolted out the box and yes its a great help. I have been UV, UC and sometimes even OC for years now with no negative effects. Give it a shot and if you are worried start slow like -25.
Try mathkids kernel(JSS roms only) which is undervolted -100 and if you read the thread its never been an issue for anyone. I have heard that UV may cause some issues with Maps locking fast

Dr.Molestratus said:
You are confusing undervolt with underclock. UC is a proven way to increase battery, but it directly makes the CPU run slower. UV will make the CPU/GPU/RAM receive less milivolts, and it will only increase battery, and not decrease performance. The thing with UV is that if the CPU at any given time does not get enough power, it can't perform a given task, and your phone will reboot.
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I'm not Confusing undervolt with underclock.
Undervolting can and does reduce performance if you go too far. (Not far enough to cause reboots)
Underclocking is not a proven way to increase battery, in fact it's quite controversial.
It's called race to idle.
Pretty much all processors have great power savings at idle speeds.
By lowering the clock speed common tasks and background processes take longer to perform. Thus keeping the cpu at a higher clock rate (using more mv) for longer and overall using more battery than what it would have done at a higher speed.
From my own tests -150 mv undervolt resulted in slower and sometimes even laggy performance. -100 is great
Underclocking to 1ghz shortened my average daily battery life by nearly 2 hrs compared to running at stock 1.5
Say what you like about stats but these are the results I found from actual usage
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UV will reduce how hot your phone gets.. and if your phone gets too hot thermal throttling will reduce the cpu speed.. and thus if u UV it will reduce thermal throttling and will increase performance..

Thanks to everyone !

[Q] UnderVoltage Knowledge

I am just using CyanogemMod ROMS for every device I used
Now I`m using a Nexus 4 with it and I got a Galaxy Y Duos too
But never understood the power knowledge of using UnderVoltage
If someone could explain with a simple resume and a Link to help me I would bem very pleased
I am a XDA user saince 2012 but never made some kind of comments
Thanks!
-- Sorry for my bag english
I am a Brazilian!

Simple fact
Less voltage to the cores, means less heat produced
Less heat produced, means better performance
You can start with -75, but don't expect any huge noticeable difference.
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RASTAVIPER said:
Simple fact
Less voltage to the cores, means less heat produced
Less heat produced, means better performance
You can start with -75, but don't expect any huge noticeable difference.
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i would like to add another detail. check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/poll-cpu-binning-t2052496
if your processor is rated faster then you could propably undervolt about 150 mv give or take. also take into account that when you undervolt it is good to run a stress test (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability
i used this) to see if your undervolt is stable. the problem is that when you undervolt the lower frequencies of the processor(mhz) will propably have no problem but the higher frequencies could crash.

RASTAVIPER said:
Simple fact
Less voltage to the cores, means less heat produced
Less heat produced, means better performance
You can start with -75, but don't expect any huge noticeable difference.
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Best Simple Explanation
Very thanks for you and all that helped :angel::angel::good:

Nexus 6P only uses A53 cores?? Too low benchmarks

As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?

Are you on Android N?
Please see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/4-cores-allways-stopped-whats-t3390543

rev_b said:
As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?
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According to the Play Store, CPU Spy hasn't been updated in 3 or 5 years. Are you using an app that supports HMP?
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joemacjr said:
Are you on Android N?
Please see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/4-cores-allways-stopped-whats-t3390543
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No, the device is new, it's running Android 6.0.1, no mods or custom ROM whatsoever.

SlimSnoopOS said:
According to the Play Store, CPU Spy hasn't been updated in 3 or 5 years. Are you using an app that supports HMP?
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So what is the best app to monitor cpu activity?
And why are my benchmarks so low?

For instance, I'm only getting ~25k in 3dmark Ice Storm Unlimited, roughly the same as my previous Nexus 6.
According to Anandtech I should be getting ~36k.

rev_b said:
So what is the best app to monitor cpu activity?
And why are my benchmarks so low?
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Kernel Adiutor is a free kernel manager. I prefer using ElementalX Kernel Manager (paid app). Both work perfectly fine on Marshmallow, support HMP, and receive frequent updates.
If the phone is hot, then benchmarks will suffer. The big cluster gets throttled and goes offline whenever the temperature reaches a certain point. If it is running cool and you see low scores then idk cuz I don't do benchmarks.
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If the phone is responsive and fast as you say why do benchmarks scores matter? Benchmarks are pointless, they give you a pretty useless set of numbers that don't equate to real world usage. If your real world usage is good (as you pointed out) then you're wasting time and energy worrying about something that doesn't matter.

Heisenberg said:
If the phone is responsive and fast as you say why do benchmarks scores matter? Benchmarks are pointless, they give you a pretty useless set of numbers that don't equate to real world usage. If your real world usage is good (as you pointed out) then you're wasting time and energy worrying about something that doesn't matter.
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I don't care about benchmarks, but they can point to a problem in your phone.
And I really would like to know how a phone sent to hardware testers consistently gets much higher benchmarks than the one I bought. Something's not right.

rev_b said:
I don't care about benchmarks, but they can point to a problem in your phone.
And I really would like to know how a phone sent to hardware testers consistently gets much higher benchmarks than the one I bought. Something's not right.
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I've had eight of these and none of them have performed well in benchmarks. Take from that what you will but I believe it's a problem that's common to the SD810, not necessarily that you have a defective unit.

rev_b said:
As above.
Daily use is very good, everything is responsive and fast.
However, benchmarks are roughly 50-70% of what they are supposed to be.
I tried to post a screenshot of CPU Spy, previously reseted timers and then ran BasemarkOS and Geekbench. (can't because less of 10 posts )
I see in CPU Spy that Max CPU state is 1555 Mhz? That's the A53 cores, right?
Is this behaviour normal?
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The phone is thermal throttling because the 810 Is overheating and the cores are being turned off. You can thank Qualcomm for their faulty overheating 810 design.

Batfink33 said:
The phone is thermal throttling because the 810 Is overheating and the cores are being turned off. You can thank Qualcomm for their faulty overheating 810 design.
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That still doesn't explain why phones sent to reviewers don't throttle so much...

sam here
I barely get my Bigger Cluster working
It's offline most of the time
I don;t mind the heat unless it doesn't damage my phone as I;m always using a cover
Any way I can change the throttle limits so that it throttles less?
will the CTT mod be good?

TJ_bab said:
sam here
I barely get my Bigger Cluster working
It's offline most of the time
I don;t mind the heat unless it doesn't damage my phone as I;m always using a cover
Any way I can change the throttle limits so that it throttles less?
will the CTT mod be good?
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Ctt mod does exactly that.

feis said:
Ctt mod does exactly that.
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Using CTT mod but still my Bigger cluster barely turns on
and also kernel Adiutor doesn't work sometimes, whenever I try to change something CPU related, it just keeps loading and loading