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Regarding Nandroid and apps I backed up with Titanium, do those remain on the phone when you wipe to install a new ROM or do you have to put those on your computer and replace them after you wipe?
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The backups are kept on your SD card, not your internal storage. So as long as you only wipe your internal storage, the backups etc will remain.
Thanks so much!
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Actually, I just looked at my SD card and no backups are there, just the movie that came with the phone.
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The backups are kept on your SD card, not your internal storage. So as long as you only wipe your internal storage, the backups etc will remain.
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He's wrong nandroid backups done in Clockwork are stored in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/....
I was actually wondering the same thing...
ArbitrageMan said:
The backups are kept on your SD card, not your internal storage. So as long as you only wipe your internal storage, the backups etc will remain.
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They are actually contained in the internal storage card but you can specify a diff directory in your external sd card if you prefer, it can be changed in your settings.
Either way they standard wipe only effects the section off the internal storage used by your phones system/data n apps and will not effect the internal storage you put in the"root" folder /sdcard, more specially in your case /sdcard/titaniumbackups (titanium) or/sdcard/backups/apps (astro) should survive.... Nandroid restores, flashes through clockwork of new roms and manual wipes of system, cache or data shouldn't hurt your astro or titanium backups.
Any full reformat of the card or as I understand it reflashing back to stock 2.1 with odin will kill your nandroid restore points but I don't know what effect that level of reflashing will have on your backups but when in doubt back up to a computer is never a bad idea.
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I just recently got the MyTouch4G, got it permrooted and did a full back up of my sd card to my pc, but it's still on stock rom. I want to flash cyanogen7 but there's a lot of junk on the sd card first
My question is if it is okay to do a full format and if so, any advice on important folders or files I should copy back after the format, apart from the clockwork folder (i know that one is important)
Thanks for any help...
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Well do as I do just create a dir called Files and inside it make sub dir's and put all stuff you want in it like aduio, video, photo, ect. Also dont worry about the other folders in your root /sdcard. Far as format goes as you backed it up to your PC just format sdcard and if you missed something it will rebuild itself. Make sure you backed up video/photo whatever if you took any. Usually once you install something that requires you to place elements in the root of your sdcard after its complete always remove it this way you save yourself a lot of headaches later on. I always keep my dir nice and clean old habit of *nix world
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Well do as I do just create a dir called Files and inside it make sub dir's and put all stuff you want in it like aduio, video, photo, ect. Also dont worry about the other folders in your root /sdcard. Far as format goes as you backed it up to your PC just format sdcard and if you missed something it will rebuild itself. Make sure you backed up video/photo whatever if you took any. Usually once you install something that requires you to place elements in the root of your sdcard after its complete always remove it this way you save yourself a lot of headaches later on. I always keep my dir nice and clean old habit of *nix world
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Thanks for your response. Just curious but clockwork recovery on Vibrant saves itself as update.zip (if I remember correctly) on the root of the internal sd card. Where does it save recovery on MT4G? I didn't see an update.zip file after flashing recovery. Thanks again for your response
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Its saved under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup you will see the dir with timestamp. Normally I don't waste time backing up as I know what I am doing but if you do want it then go ahead and just mv the dir to your PC temporarily then sync back to sdcard once you are done.
Whatever data is saved even the cache on SD I know so if I find data that is valuable I still mv it to /sdcard/files and redirect that path. This way I have clean data scheme as you don't want 9000 bs on your root directory.
Thanks again for replying. I know where the nandroid backups are stored but what I was wondering about is the actual clockwork recovery that you boot into in order to flash roms, make backups, etc. On Samsung Vibrant, when you go into rom manager and flash recovery, it creates a zip file on the root of your internal sd. When you do this with MT4G, it puts that recovery flash somewhere.
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m00nshake said:
Thanks again for replying. I know where the nandroid backups are stored but what I was wondering about is the actual clockwork recovery that you boot into in order to flash roms, make backups, etc. On Samsung Vibrant, when you go into rom manager and flash recovery, it creates a zip file on the root of your internal sd. When you do this with MT4G, it puts that recovery flash somewhere.
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I think CM comes with clockwork rom manager preinstalled. Your recovery won't change when you flash a rom. There's no need to back up recoveries because they're available in rom manager. If you need cw 3.0.0.5 just download the flashable version from the cm7 forum and save it.
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Since the mytouch 4g installs some of the apps on the microSD card, does a nandroid backup include those in the system image? Or should I use something like titanium backup for those?
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Since the mytouch 4g installs some of the apps on the microSD card, does a nandroid backup include those in the system image? Or should I use something like titanium backup for those?
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Nandroid will back everything in the system including apps but some data is stored on the sd card as well. My advice is to a nandroid and backup your entire sd card to your pc as well
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XfooYen said:
I think CM comes with clockwork rom manager preinstalled. Your recovery won't change when you flash a rom. There's no need to back up recoveries because they're available in rom manager. If you need cw 3.0.0.5 just download the flashable version from the cm7 forum and save it.
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This is not really in reference to cyanogenmod but any rooted MT4G. When you root your phone you download and install clockwork. From rom manager, you choose ' flash recovery'. You choose your phone from the list and it flashes the recovery image somewhere on your phone. My question was to find out what directory does it flash recovery to and as what the file is called.
I am currently running gorillasens final but this would be the same as any rom here, possibly the exception being cyanogenmod
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Nandroid will back everything in the system including apps but some data is stored on the sd card as well. My advice is to a nandroid and backup your entire sd card to your pc as well
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I understand that, my question was whether or not a nandroid backup includes the app data stored on the sd card?
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I understand that, my question was whether or not a nandroid backup includes the app data stored on the sd card?
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No it does not have data stored on sd card
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What is list files/folders that came stock on the MT4G micro-SD card?
Thanks
Could someone please explain what nandroid is.
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jamietuffen said:
Could someone please explain what nandroid is.
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Hello,
nandroid is a backup tool. It is run from recovery mode, and makes a copy of the internal memory of the phone and saves it on the SD-card. It can also backup the apps installed on the SD-card in the same manner. It is often used when flashing new roms to the phone, since it provides a means to fully restore the phone to the previous state.
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Henrik
So if i did a nandroid back up on my phone it would back up everything onto my sd card and then restore it to its original state (ie nothing).
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Yes, the nandroid image on the SD card is an exact copy of the relevant parts of the phones internal storage, so when doing a restore everything will be back as it were before. If, however, you have apps installed on the SD card using Froyos apps2sd (which stores the applications on the ordinary fat32 partition of the SD card) those applications is not backed up. Nandroid includes functionality for backing up apps installed on a ext partition, though.
Personally I use Titanium backup to backup applications when I'm changing ROMs.
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Does Nandroid overwite previously made backups, or will it make a new backup every time? In case of the latter, can you choose from recovery wich backup you want to restore?
(Before I flashed my Hero, I made a Nandroidbackup of the original ROM. I don't want risk loosing this backup when I make another Nandroidbackup.)
I think it overwrites, but i'm not sure.
No, it doesn't overwrite the old backups. You can choose which image to restore.
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Henrik
Tanks for your reply!
Hey guys I was just wondering my last sd card busted and I had to get another one so I don't have the nandroid backup from the beginning when I first rooted my phone is this ok?
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Its fine you can just flash to stock and backup that
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You mean I downgrade make a nandroid backup
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does your phone still boot up properly without any issues? i'm assuming since you had backups prevoiusly that clockworkmod is already installed on your phone. you can just boot into recovery and make another backup. it isn't necessary to have your original backup.
Maybe a good time for a reminder that SD cards fail and accidents happen. It's always a good idea to periodically copy the entire contents of the SD card, which will include your nandroid backups, to an empty folder on your desktop/laptop. Just be sure and enable viewing of hidden and system files & folders.
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Maybe a good time for a reminder that SD cards fail and accidents happen. It's always a good idea to periodically copy the entire contents of the SD card, which will include your nandroid backups, to an empty folder on your desktop/laptop. Just be sure and enable viewing of hidden and system files & folders.
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I've been doing this, but I never thought about the hidden files. Thanks!
Hey guys how do you move ALL apps and data to your sd card so when I flash roms (theres a new update everyday it gets too hard) I dont lose my progress in apps and I dont have to reinstall they are already there, is it possible to do this?
Also can you set sd card as default so new apps you install automatically go there.
It would be nice if I could partition just like 1 gb of my SD card just for apps!
Ive searched a few threads and stuff trying to gather information but none of them really helped alot so sorry if this has been answered!
What ROM are you running?
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What ROM are you running?
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RCmix3D at the moment, thinking about flashing Honey sense hd for a while!
I just want to make a partition of about 700mb onto the SD and move ALL my apps to it so I dont lose my progress and I dont have to worry about them when I flash roms!
thanks in advance!
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I'm unsure of any batch command to send all existing apps to SD so you may have to go to Settings> Applications> Manage Apps and move each one individually.
To change default app install location, use the following command either through ADB or in a terminal emulator:
pm setInstallLocation 2 //for SD card
pm setInstallLocation 0 //for phone internal memory
You'll find after setting the install location to SD, you'll notice that more apps can be moved to the SD card manually instead of just being greyed-out. However, be careful though - personally, I wouldn't move the following to SD since they've affected performance:
- apps which use a widget on your home screen (music players, aggregators)
- apps which explicitly interact with the system (e.g. task managers, autokiller, autostarts)
- Google apps
Hope this helps.
Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
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Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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Backup all user apps in batch mode using titanium backup pro. Saves to sdcard backup folder.
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Partition sdcard to ext3 or 4, 0 swap, and use a a2sd+ patch (if your ROM supports it). Backup data on the fat32 partition first, as it may get wiped when the partition is split to make the ext partition. All user apps and associated dalvik will be moved to the ext partition on boot. Just make sure the ext partition is not wiped / formatted prior to flashing ROM. Use pc software such as gparted or mini partition tool free. Been a few phones bricked using the wrong cwm version to partition.
But, if were me, just use Titanium Backup Pro.
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Gparted wouldnt find my phone when plugged in when I tried.
Also when you just move to SD through settings>application, it doesnt move the whole app only half and when you install a new rom they arnt there
Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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UpInTheAir said:
Gparted is Linux, mini partition tool for Windows.
A2sd+ moves apps to ext partition, not fat32 partition your referring to. A2sd or apps to SD move only to fat32 partition.
There's the difference between a2sd+ & a2sd.
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So to move the apps COMPLETELY on to the SD so they are there when you install a new rom and stuff, I partition my sd card in Ext 3/4 and then use a2sd+ to move them over right?
I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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UpInTheAir said:
I'm on LeeDrOiD, and don't bother with the patch anymore.
But the method I used was, setup ext partition, flash ROM followed immediately by the a2sd+ patch for 1gb ext, then reboot. First boot will take a while.
Is useful if you stick to the same ROM, ...... as long as you don't wipe the ext partition before each update / build flash, or the ROM doesn't have a inbuilt script that wipes the ext. If that happened, you'd lose the apps and their dalvik cache, although the dalvik should be wiped anyway.
Edit: important, Forgot to mention, move all apps to "internal" memory prior. A2sd+ will take care of it on boot / flash and move all to ext. Any other app DL, just move to internal, and it'll be moved auto next boot.
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I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
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I got the partition set up and I installed the patch and the reboot took ages but how do I know if there on SD, I dont think they are because when I click on the app some still say move to sd?
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Open titanium backup, the first page that opens "overview", look down the bottom, will say something like;
Rom
Internal
Sdcard
A2sd+
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ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
It will always say move to SD if installed in any other place. But the SD it refers to is the fat32 partition, not your ext. A2sd+ will take care of it and move all new apps to ext on boot, as long as you install to internal memory first.
After some market updates of apps installed to ext , you may have to move to internal and reboot to ensure they're on the ext
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ok it says sd card (A2sd) 575mb 60.4 free, so I think that means the apps are on there, so if I wipe my phone the apps will stay right?
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Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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Maybe a slightly bigger partition would have been better.
The apps should stay, as long as the ext is not wiped / formatted.
If apps not recognised in market, clear market cache, boot cwm, clear dalvik, boot, use titanium backup pro to restore market link if needed.
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I did the biggest one possible in Rom manager
Alright thanks for all your help mate!
Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Maybe your version, I have not done it since 1gb using cwm 2.5.1.3. But some newer versions had bricked phones. ROM manager is just an interface for cwm, so that's why its best to do it through pc. Should recognise the card through a sdcard adaptor
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Yeah but I use windows, and I'm having problems using Gparted live (it just wont let me partition my sd card) and using virtualbox I cant find my device in Ubuntu :S
Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Mini partition tool , free version for windows, maybe you missed it in an earlier post.
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Ahh stupid me haha, il try it out, thanks