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So SDCARd = Custom Roms?

I've been debating on the transformer or the Xoom....
now that the Xoom has SD access, will custom roms be next? Or is something still missing?

Yes, AFAIK still HC missing source code, although bits are starting to come out.

ugh I guess ill keep waiting...

Why wait once source gets released I'm sure the xoom will be the more worked on device

Who knows, alot of people were saying they were returning their Xooms
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DroidHam said:
Who knows, alot of people were saying they were returning their Xooms
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And a lot aren't

But the Transformer needs the source code as much as the Xoom does... so... it depends which one sells more and the Xoom has a head start.
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Who knows, alot of people were saying they were returning their Xooms
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Who's a lot of people you mean noobs that know nothing about developing or impatienet people that do nothing but bash the xoom

Plus the keyboard dock looks really tempting
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It's cute but if I wanted a netbook I would have bought one years ago.
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What has the better overall hardware?
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Most if not all of the people returning the Xoom for a Transformer are doing so because of such minor issues, which will be resolved soon anyway. Getting the Transformer for the keyboard dock is stupid IMO. Congrats, you just bought a very expensive netbook.

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Most if not all of the people returning the Xoom for a Transformer are doing so because of such minor issues, which will be resolved soon anyway. Getting the Transformer for the keyboard dock is stupid IMO. Congrats, you just bought a very expensive netbook.
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What kind of minor issues?
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siscim23 said:
Most if not all of the people returning the Xoom for a Transformer are doing so because of such minor issues, which will be resolved soon anyway. Getting the Transformer for the keyboard dock is stupid IMO. Congrats, you just bought a very expensive netbook.
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Or you know.. Because it has a significantly better screen. Oh and wait, it's cheaper than the Xoom with a keyboard! Even if you don't use the keyboard, you still have it. Unless I'm mistaken and it doesn't come with the keyboard, because I have been not caring about the thing at all lol.

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What kind of minor issues?
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Mainly the SD card not working. But also things like the UI lags, there aren't enough apps, its heavy (I know, not fixable). Crap like that.
And the keyboard for the Transformer is $150 I believe.

People choose Transformer because it has better IPS screen and cheaper, and that's important.
siscim23 said:
Most if not all of the people returning the Xoom for a Transformer are doing so because of such minor issues, which will be resolved soon anyway. Getting the Transformer for the keyboard dock is stupid IMO. Congrats, you just bought a very expensive netbook.
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Hmm. I'm not trying to be dense here but for me at least, the IPS screen is not better. Going by the iPad screen anyway, for reading it's not that great, and that's a major part of what I'll be doing with the Xoom.
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burden010 said:
Hmm. I'm not trying to be dense here but for me at least, the IPS screen is not better. Going by the iPad screen anyway, for reading it's not that great, and that's a major part of what I'll be doing with the Xoom.
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This is simply a lie coming from someone who owned both and now only Xoom. I pad screen is better at everything. Its brighter AND crisper so how can't u read?

Well, no it's not a lie. Thanks for calling me a liar though.
I've read on the iPad and it was OK but not brilliant, the letters just don't "pop" like they do in a book or ereader. I haven't seen a Xoom yet but I've been led to believe by reviews that it's better for reading than the iPad.

My opinion: the ipad is too bright, even when its toned down. Especially if your in bed at night try to not wake up the person next to you or land air planes on your bed.

What will you recommend?

The xoom
The Transformer
Or the itampon
I live in spain I wanted to order of of amazon(damm you guys have cheap stuff) would anyone recommend amazon? Experiences?
They're about 400€ a pop.
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When you said itampon did you mean ipad?
It depends on what you use the device for also.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs
Just wanted to point out how old this skit is btw...it's from 2007

Well....
Browsing, books, videos the usual crap...
I dislike apple in general(read:hate with a passion) only they can charge 40bucks for a friggin sheet of plastic) and I can't think what I'll use It for other than games I have a ps3 for that...
I put it on the list mainly for.......yeah I got nothing... forget it change it for like the acer iconia tab
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Holy crap hahhaha I never saw it
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patass said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs
Just wanted to point out how old this skit is btw...it's from 2007
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That was a good laugh thank you sir
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calexus1182 said:
The xoom
The Transformer
Or the itampon
I live in spain I wanted to order of of amazon(damm you guys have cheap stuff) would anyone recommend amazon? Experiences?
They're about 400€ a pop.
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Well if those are my only options then I would choose the xoom but I'm biased. I own one. I think the Asus might be a good buy but seems doomed to fail with low stock. If you can possibly wait 2 months then you'll have more honeycomb tablet options. Google is rumoured to have a nexus tablet in the works, possibly from Toshiba and could be THE tablet!! But in the meantime, I'm absolutely loving my xoom.

jjank11 said:
Well if those are my only options then I would choose the xoom but I'm biased. I own one. I think the Asus might be a good buy but seems doomed to fail with low stock. If you can possibly wait 2 months then you'll have more honeycomb tablet options. Google is rumoured to have a nexus tablet in the works, possibly from Toshiba and could be THE tablet!! But in the meantime, I'm absolutely loving my xoom.
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Intriguing. But I thought that the xoom was the tablet equivalent of the nexus/s
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calexus1182 said:
Intriguing. But I thought that the xoom was the tablet equivalent of the nexus/s
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There is speculation over that.
I liken the Xoom to Android Dev Phone 1, or the G1, same phone really.
In other words, we're the first - but not THE device of Google. Right now, it's the "Apple of Google's Eye" D) - for now.

Kcarpenter said:
There is speculation over that.
I liken the Xoom to Android Dev Phone 1, or the G1, same phone really.
In other words, we're the first - but not THE device of Google. Right now, it's the "Apple of Google's Eye" D) - for now.
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Much like the nexus one was the developers phone
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The original dev phone was ADP1. N1 came later...2 years or so.
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So the matrix pill scenario...xoom or transformer
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Hey is the sdcard slot working for the international wifi-only version of the xoom?
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Should I wait?

Should I wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 which comes out June 8th. Or should I get the acer a500?

I'm not a Samsung fan but their new tab looks promising. I love the A500 but the Samsung will likely be an easier nut to crack if you want custom roms and kernels.
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outdooz said:
Should I wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 which comes out June 8th. Or should I get the acer a500?
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Depends what you needs are. The Acer is a nice tablet, but if you can do with out the full USB host and don't mind paying a little more, the tab 10.1 looks like the better choice.
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I wont be installing anything custom on it. I think overall samsung is better than acer. Is that correct?

outdooz said:
I wont be installing anything custom on it. I think overall samsung is better than acer. Is that correct?
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Not really. Running stock they're pretty much the same. Samsung is a now an update partner with Google so updates may come quickly.
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lrs421 said:
Not really. Running stock they're pretty much the same. Samsung is a now an update partner with Google so updates may come quickly.
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I wouldn't read to much in to that, everyone knows Samsung has been the worst with pushing updates, not to say that can't change.
But yes HC is all the same, so the overall feel will be the same, but the Samsung is much lighter and features IPS I think.
With that said, I returned my Acer only because of the lack of customization for the time being. If this changes I'd buy it again. Until than I'm hoping a rooted nook color will suit my needs.
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According to acers website an update is suppose to be coming in june

bog3nator said:
According to acers website an update is suppose to be coming in june
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There you have it.
Link?
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According to acers website an update is suppose to be coming in june
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Yeah doesn't it say that for the specs in regards to playing 1080p video?
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Just read the Samsung doesn't have USB out, HDMI out, SD, nor microsd.......fail
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michaelg1030 said:
Just read the Samsung doesn't have USB out, HDMI out, SD, nor microsd.......fail
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Ugh. Fail indeed. The hdmi and USB were big selling points for me.
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I'm in the same boat as you. On one hand, I really do love the Samsung's form factor. At the same time, it doesn't have HDMI out, USB, or microSD. However, Samsung is supposed to be a part of that new policy Google announced today which would guarantee updates for 18 months, plus it will be easier for the devs here to crack. I don't know how good Acer will be with updates.
Ugh, I don't know what to do either. I was GOING to buy the Acer today, but saw the Samsung and decided to wait....AHHHHHH

I would wait for the 3.1 update with better USB support. When it lands I think a lot of people are going to regret not buying a device with usb functionality like the a500.

cdkizzle said:
I'm in the same boat as you. On one hand, I really do love the Samsung's form factor. At the same time, it doesn't have HDMI out, USB, or microSD. However, Samsung is supposed to be a part of that new policy Google announced today which would guarantee updates for 18 months, plus it will be easier for the devs here to crack. I don't know how good Acer will be with updates.
Ugh, I don't know what to do either. I was GOING to buy the Acer today, but saw the Samsung and decided to wait....AHHHHHH
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You're gonna want that HDMI... its mirroring on your TV. Lots of ways to use that besides watching movies...

I have debated all this myself. Always new devices on the horizon. I really like the Acer and am keeping it. I just got the case from staples and love it. USB is huge for me.

Is DLNA the same or at least as good as HDMI out?

sigh.
the 10.1v is confirmed to not have a microsd slot, however the 10.1 more than likely will.

it has a micro sd card. You are looking at the 10.1v

outdooz said:
Should I wait for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 which comes out June 8th. Or should I get the acer a500?
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There's no harm in waiting. If you can wait, wait. When the Samsung comes you'll be able to make a choice based on what's actually there vs. rumor and speculation.

Neoprimal said:
There's no harm in waiting. If you can wait, wait. When the Samsung comes you'll be able to make a choice based on what's actually there vs. rumor and speculation.
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Well its not really rumor. It has a set release date and specifications.

User opinions

How is the xoom treating you guys?
Ill b getting one buy this week.
Short reviews please?
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I came from a SG2 and galaxy tab 7. I find the xoom awesome with some overclock it run better than my SG2. And for the price, it was the best choice, other tablet had the same spec but with 16go of HD instead of the 32 for the xoom.
Root it then switch to tiamat and you have a very nice tablet
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IIIPowerIII said:
I came from a SG2 and galaxy tab 7. I find the xoom awesome with some overclock it run better than my SG2. And for the price, it was the best choice, other tablet had the same spec but with 16go of HD instead of the 32 for the xoom.
Root it then switch to tiamat and you have a very nice tablet
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While I love (love, love, love!) my Xoom and enjoy singing it's praises, there are already loads of threads (recent ones) like this. Just look in back pages of General and Q&A sections and you will find loads of opinions.
That said, you should definately get a Xoom, root it and flash a custom recovery and a rom and/or kernel in order to overclock and get some very sweet features. My Xoom goes everywhere with me and did I say I love it?

Is it to late to get the A500?

Ok, I got a transformer prime and it's nice but more than I really need and I'm a little disappointed with it as well. I wanted to have a USB port and expandable memory so I'm thinking of returning my transformer and getting the a500. I'm mainly gonna surf, watch movies and maybe tether to my skyrocket with slingbox. Of choose I'm gonna root and oc like my skyrocket but I wanted to see if people would still recommend it being it's not as new to the market.
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Phoneguy589 said:
Ok, I got a transformer prime and it's nice but more than I really need and I'm a little disappointed with it as well. I wanted to have a USB port and expandable memory so I'm thinking of returning my transformer and getting the a500. I'm mainly gonna surf, watch movies and maybe tether to my skyrocket with slingbox. Of choose I'm gonna root and oc like my skyrocket but I wanted to see if people would still recommend it being it's not as new to the market.
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Ebay and Craigslist

As mentioned, I'd hang onto it until the a700 comes out maybe, THEN eBay/Craigslist it and buy the a700