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Are you keeping your A500 or gonna try the next best thing?

I am still on my 14 day return and have been thinking about this. Android biggest problem is something new is always right around the corner. I think a lot of you are here cause the Asus was unavailable and may still be waiting on that.
So are you keeping it.
Did it surprise you enough to stay with it.
Is the upcoming Samsung Galazy Tab 10.1 or the burning desire to have the Transformer gonna make you take it back.
Maybe the Toshiba Tab with it's built in USB might persuade you.

Sticking. Stuck.

I bought the Acer because the ASUS wasn't available, but I'm quite happy with it anyway. As you said, there's always something new around the corner, but what I've seen about the Toshiba models put them in the Xoom price range, and I haven't seen pricing on the Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 (new thin models, not the 10.1V original design.)
Honeycomb in general's still a very new system, and I expect by this time next year most of the things we're looking at as "missing" or "broken" will be available and/or fixed. Kinda the way I'm still using my (original generation) Droid phone, which, when overclocked and ROMd over to Gingerbread is just fine

Actually...
I figured that I'd get it to play with Honeycomb and wait for some of the vaporware tablets to emerge. I had bought a Xoom but it was a real POS - nothing worked including the falsely advertised charging dock, etc. So I returned it.
Now I'm absolutely keeping the Iconia - I have a rooted Nook Color - very nice but not in the same league as the Iconia.
Don't believe all the BS put out about how bad the screen is, or other stuff.
I rooted it (easiest root I have ever done) and everything works as advertiszed.

I still got until Monday wiki decide Saturday if I will return or not to get the transfoemer, tegra 3 tablets are also coming out in august
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Got both the Asus and the iconia and will keep the iconia ..
The Asus just feels so cheaply made that no amount of screen quality can make up for it feeling like a cheap toy in my hands.
I can understand the whole IPS vs standard screen debate as i have owned many great screens over the years including IPS desktop screens and iPads etc etc .
They both have there pros and there cons but a good screen and good build quality are more important to me and the whole USB host thing built in without the need for a dock or separate accessory is just great.
Will never need a keyboard attached to it either and i think thats what really pushed me over the edge to keep the Acer.
Not slamming on the Asus btw because its decent in other areas but after getting 2 with some nasty light bleed on top of questionable build quality the Acer just took the crown for overall winner .

I am keeping mine. I actually had a Xoom first and took it back...thought it was too expensive for what it was. I actually really like the Acer better. I love the USB port, the micro card slot actually works ( didn't on xoom as of yet), It feels a lot lighter and I actually like the bezel being larger as it is easier to hold without hitting the screen. The viewing angle is good (not sure why bad comments on that). I like it a lot.

Keeping. Was waiting on the Asus, but i'm more than happy with the screen of the Acer, absolutely love the usb port, and since removing the phone apks, I have no complaints about battery life. I'm happy.

Right before I got the Acer I had purchased a used Galaxy Tab 7" thinking that would satisfy me.
Then I saw the Acer. Once I touched it I fell instantly in love and fought myself not to give into temptation everyday. Suddenly it hit me... I have a Bestbuy card and it means I can take 18 months to pay for it without a dime of interest.
1/2 hour later I had the Iconia in my sweaty hands.
Sure the wife *****ed but hey, it's only a new toy once.
For me it's a keeper. Like others have said, the USB port is a big factor and I see nothing wrong with the screen.

Keepin'. I am surprised how much I enjoy the Acer iconia Tab. The USB port makes all the difference. I think the build quality is very nice indeed and I really like the design. Root doesn't hurt either.
I was an early adopter of the Linux Eee Pcs and thought they were very solid little machines, but later models had some serious build quality issues. So the Eee Transformer quality/build problems I have read about do not surprise me one bit. . . .
Also have the Galaxy Tab 7" and a Nook Color. Not sure which one of those I'm sticking with though. I like them both but I leaning toward the Nook and selling the Galaxy Tab on Ebay.

Keeping for sure

I will be taking mine back, but only cause I will be waiting for Samsung galaxy tab 10.1. The weight of the Acer is an issue for me, but can understand why it is. Feels very sturdy. I absolutely love the USB port & sdcard working out of the box. So testing the Acer gave me a few things to think about far as what I want in a tablet. I know Galaxy tab 10.1 will not have USB port. Not sure how Toshiba's will feel.
I definitely recommend people to try the Acer
Also the corners of acer are kind of pointy if holding for awhile.

def keeping mine. I don't know why the Asus got so much media and Acer didnt

I'm still on the fence. I'm coming from daily use of a convertible Fujitsu with stylus and have wanted something this light for a while and miss not having a stylus for normal handwriting.
There are also some things I may not be able to live without which require Window$ but I'm going to give it another week and see if I can see a way to fit it into my normal working life.
If there weren't things that were broken out of the box (gps, compass) I'd probably be leaning more towards keeping at this point

Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.

bhageman said:
Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.
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Any tips tricks as to what you did to fix / customize?

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Any tips tricks as to what you did to fix / customize?
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-Immediately did a factory reset. Eliminated problem with screen coming back on after screen time out and an odd problem I had with my screen timeout being stuck at 15 seconds.
-Rooted with GingerBreak (make sure you lock in portrait during process)
-WPA supplicant
-changed phone.apk and telephony___.apk to .bak to kill the phone processes. Mad a HUGE improvement in an already satisfactory battery life. WARNING: This will brick your phone if you do a factory reset without changing them back.
-Installed ADW for my home screen
-Installed SyncSMS to get SMS functionality
Apps that help:
-GingerBreak
-Root Explorer
-Terminal Emulator
-Uninstaller for Root
-Super Manager
-ES File
Apps I love:
-PlayOn: Streaming TV from my NAS drive
-SugarSync: All my work docs in the cloud
-WinAmp: Sync music with my desktop over wifi
-Feedly: Google RSS feed looks like a magazine
-Chrome to Phone

Still on the edge
I like the screen and feel of it, but with Honeycomb there aren't many apps out there that run on it (without FC all the time).
I'm trying to justify keeping it for work, but there's no Activesync (without rooting), Calendar is a joke and other than playing movies/games on it what do YOU use it for?
I can't see dumping my laptop anytime soon, so my question is what are you using it for? Serious question.
Thanks
S

I wanted the EEE TF as well but got the Iconia in the interim. I'm pleasantly surprised. I don't want the TF anymore. After playing with a friends, I'm not convinced it's worthwhile to exchange them. It has a gorgeous display and is a tad lighter but I'm afraid I've been jaded by the really bad things I've read about it and am convinced the first batch was very shoddy. Unfortunately, by the time it's released there will be competitors with possibly better options (toshiba, samsung, sony, htc, etc.)
My goal is to get something I'm 100% happy with. I'm 98% happy with the Iconia.
What's in that 2%? Limited video file and format playing ability and bugs due to Honeycomb right now.
Otherwise, hell yeah! I'd have liked an IPS screen. This AUO screen isn't bad at all but it's no IPS, right? Acer could have at least pegged Samsung for PLS.
It's also in wrestling with the idea of having the faith in Acer to believe they really will update and fix these things in the near future. These companies aren't known for keeping their products updated beyond a certain period. I can easily see their promised June update becoming Samsung-esque and not seen for months if ever.
That being said, I've entertained the idea of returning it and waiting to see what I can get in June. But tech is tricky and if you decide to wait, you can easily end up waiting forever for the next best thing as it's always around the corner. If the competitors are too expensive, it's not like the A500 won't be there for me to fall back on, it may even be cheaper! Of course, just like a cell phone - once you own one of these things you come to depend on it rather quickly if you're used to doing things a certain way.
I use it for everything now. My notebook sits in it's bag most of the time.
It's awesome for multimedia, period.
I use it in the kitchen and around the house to play music and videos if I don't feel like sitting in front of the TV.
I use it in the kitchen to look up new and different things to cook.
I use it as a visual remote for my PC (to control music or manipulate downloads). I use it in the couch to look up stuff I see on TV.
I bring it with me EVERYWHERE, yes...I now own a manbag.
I use it on the road when I'm out with the wife and she's in Macys/JCPenny/Kohls or any of those places I don't feel like venturing with her into for hours.
I use it when I'm at the cafe or out at dinner. I don't have it out all the time, but it's with me in case I want to use it and I must say, it's nicer than flipping out a netbook which I guess is ironic but I always thought that was so odd looking. You know, when people pop their netbooks out on a table in the middle of 4 people being social. For me it's a matter of looking up something quick and then popping it back in.
The list goes on and on.
It's basically replaced my android phone in its smart abilities while managing to be more comfortable in that the screen is bigger. It's replaced my notebook in it's lighter tasks like multimedia due to it being ultimately way, way more portable and touchscreen.
My dilemma is living without it for 2 months while I wait for something that I'm hoping will satisfy me 99 or 100%, should I decide to return it. I still have a few days to decide.

kalric said:
Calendar is a joke
S
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Have you tried Jorte?

HC/TF vs IOS/iPad thoughts

I really want to like my TF. I've had it for two weeks now and I was showing my wife some of the nifty things it could do. While we were playing with it the deep sleep lockup happened, I had to reboot just to get sound, then reboot again 20 minutes later to get sound back once more, and FC the browser because Flash had killed the webpage while she tried playing a video at Failblog.com.
All that was in 30 minutes.
I've been playing with it for the last two weeks as I said, both at home and at work. As a Network Admin I have found some great tools for network scans, RDP, VNC, SSH, and more. During my 8 hour day, I see many flaws in Honeycomb during this time and can't help but wonder if Google is using the paying customer as the testers for their beta software? Or is it the inexperience from Asus in the Android tablet market?
I have an iPhone 3GS as my personal phone and a Motorola Milestone X as my work phone. Both do pretty much the same thing. Both have apps for most things. Both work well. The iPhone just seem to be less hassle in it's day to day use.
I see the same with the iPad 2. My wife's iPad runs longer, weighs less, and she take for granted that it will start up and play sound when she presses the button. This alone makes me think about exchanging my TF for an iPad.
Now if you had read this far, I do have some great comments on the TF and Android. To me as a tech head it's intuitive and option filled. I really like the TF's screen and see very little light bleed that some complain about (though I do have an odd diagonal cross hatching). It's fast and responsive. The weight is great compared to the Iconia or the Xoom. It seems tough and durable, yet stays relatively thin and light.
Currently I am at an impasse. I'm neither an Apple nor Google fanboi. I work with Linux (CL and GUI) and Windows XP/7 at work. I use IE, Chrome, and Firefox. Essentially, I am not tied to a platform and Android or IOS would work. I use the tool that fits the job. IOS atm seem to be in the "just work" category while Honeycomb is more "in the works".
I'm torn. I want to like Honeycomb and the TF, but I like the stability and proven nature of IOS and the iPad2.

how old is your TF?
i say keep it until the very last minute of your return window, and wait for Android 3.1. if you still don't like it then, then reconsider whether you want to keep your device.
(though I do have an odd diagonal cross hatching)
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i seem to have that too, and it's basically the pattern of the backside of the TF. kind of weird, but i have to force myself in really weird angles for them to show up, so it doesn't really bother me.

finalhit said:
how old is your TF?
i say keep it until the very last minute of your return window, and wait for Android 3.1. if you still don't like it then, then reconsider whether you want to keep your device.
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That has been my thought as well. It's two weeks on the dot. Or rather I bought it on the 11th and Best Buy back ordered it until the 13th and it arrived for me to take possession on the 16th. Even the 11th is fine, I've got another 30 days at least with my 45 days return on all items since I have Best Buy Reward Zone Silver membership.
If 3.1 is released in early June I'll be able to see, but the Xoom with 3.1 still has plenty of issues from reading their forums. Hhhm, it's a waiting game and I don't know that I want to gamble in 3 months HC will work or not and get stuck with these FC's and bad sound.

quietas said:
I'm torn. I want to like Honeycomb and the TF, but I like the stability and proven nature of IOS and the iPad2.
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You really shouldn't have to want to like something! I myself refuse to buy into the iPad market although I am tempted to stick with the iPhone. My tablet is not going to replace a full laptop anytime soon so it's more of a fun device. On the other hand, my phone needs to work and as much as I like tinkering I prefer to have something solid and stable (that's why I haven gotten a new phone yet; waiting for either a good Android phone or the new iPhone in Q3/4).
Bottom line, if you prefer the iPad go with it! At the end of the day a tablet is like a pair of shoes - it needs to fit you and your needs!

Thoughts of let down with a hint of mutiny...

Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...

03stage2 said:
Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...
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Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.

Bob Smith42 said:
Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.
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+1, and if anyone is that worried about selecting the wrong link by accident they can always use the mouse pointer via the trackpad. I've had no problem doing it this way and it's a big plus for the TF.

Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.

GeLopez said:
Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.
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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..

Lets put things into perspective here...
The tablet is not a laptop, it can perform many functions of a laptop, but it is truly not one.
It does have a place in the field. I have found that for business, being able to show information instantly to partners without having to 'boot up' or 'plug in' is essential when I want to get a point across.
It is great for email, messaging, movies, light surfing, reading, and even playing some good casual games on.
The dock makes it appear to be more like a laptop, but again.. go back to my 2nd sentence, and do not put it in a category it does not belong in.
If I need to develop, I use my Alienware mx17-r2, if I need to demo products I have my Inspiron. If I need to take notes, read a quick email, show a slide deck / video, or just look something up real quick, I have my TF101.
So this is more about how you set your expectations above what a product is intended to do, and now have buyer's remorse because of it.

Sounds like you put expectations on the device geared towards what it is not. Go get a netbook or start hackin up the ROM and tailor it to your needs.

Instant On
16 hours of battery life.
Love it.
True though...I barely ever undock it now ahahahah...so we've kind of went full circle...
It's nice to know that I can undock it though.
Even as a netbook it is sleek...IPS screen...touchscreen. The interface is just nice for what it's meant to be...a light portable machine.
I can listen to music/pandora...type up some docs...play some games...browse some web...watch some movies....read some magazines...
Edit: oh yeah...I can mount it in my car and use it as a GPS....use yelp to find nearby food places then map a route to it...(yes this can be done on phone too)...but it's kind of cool.
It's kind of nice.

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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..
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I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect

GeLopez said:
I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect
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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.

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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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my issues havent been hardwre related, just update related. That being said I dont blame Asus for my particular concerns. Im still a TF fan but just think to achieve a broader gambut of ability at the same basic price point is the wise move. Obviously this is mainly due to me personally always using the dock.
Ironically on a side note I bought one of the first asus netbooks years ago and hated it after a month. Now Im finding myself wanting to use the TF daily, go figure....
And lastly I dont think I would have even looked at m11x if the performance on this thing was simply up to par...

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This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration!
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Actually, the TF benchmarks very competitively against other Tegra 2 tablets. The only area where it's not (allegedly) hardware accelerated is in playing Flash videos in the browser.

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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
Regards,
Dave
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That wouldn't be surprising. Even 5k would be less than 1% out there by now. I mean heck, last month alone they shipped out 400k didn't they?

Battery & Display suck; why the love?

Hi guys. I just bought the Acer Iconia and wanted to give a few of my initial thoughts.
First thing I noticed after performing all the updates was the lag. After exiting applications, it takes a little while for the icons to re-appear on the homescreen. I haven't added any besides the default. Also, when scrolling with the browser, it tends to render in square blocks.
Battery life..I've read reviews that it goes up to 8 hours while others say it lasts between 4-5 hours, and others say 6 hours. I understand that what we do varies, and the battery needs to be calibrated. After having it on for 3 hours and playing FieldRunners for 45 min (the rest of the time it was idle with all wireless connections off), I'm at 75% remaining. That's pretty crummy. Not even a calibration will improve it THAT much.
Also, when viewing a white background, you can see every "box" or pixel. Goodness, that's pretty frickin' bad. I'm not expecting any ridiculous "retina display" here but this is just a cheap panel.
I went into Staples to compare it to the Galaxy Tab and Xoom, and I see why Iconia is priced $100 less.
So, serious question. Why all the love for this thing?
Thanks!

Obvious troll is obvious
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With 14 posts, maybe you shouldn't comment. And I can't imagine a troll would actually take the time to write up a full post. What a waste of time that'd be.
I genuinely want to know. Perhaps there's something I'm missing. I want to love it because for $299 (after the Staples $100 off tablets coupon) it might not be a bad deal even with my complaints. But for those who actually spent the full $400, what do you actually like about it?

If you wanna go to staples n pay $300 (not $100!) For extra bulk and a non functioning micro SD, or for a device that doesnt even have a micro sd, USB, or HDMI, go for it. If you feel like a thin piece of plastic is a better investment than stainless steel, that's your money. But don't polute our forums with a "grass is greener" thread. You dont like the Iconia cuz it has the same battery as every other device (the only difference is some companies lie more in their specs- I've tested them all, they are all about the same) or cuz you can see pixels on a white screen, go somewhere else.

It's $100 OFF, making it $299 as I posted above. Read the post and learn to write full words in english. Good lord, tough to get a real answer out of babies.
Don't be too hurt if people knock the device. I'm allowed to call it like I see it, and the reason I posted is so someone can point out the actual good parts of the device (besides USB port).
Does anyone else see the issues I was referring to in my original post?

allen099 said:
It's $100 OFF, making it $299 as I posted above. Read the post and learn to write full words in english. Good lord, tough to get a real answer out of babies.
Don't be too hurt people knock the device. I'm allowed to call it like I see it, and the reason I posted is so someone can point out the actual good parts of the device (besides USB port).
Does anyone else see the issues I was referring to in my original post?
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I cant find your first post. You posted 224 messages. I klap my hands.

Don't diss the Odom, you can't make any friends that way.
For me it was the ports it offered. If the galaxy offered a micro SD I probabally would have bought it. The Acer on the other hand offers a lot of ports, which I found very fun. On the Xoom issue the Acer actually out performs it on display as thy have the same one but Acer codes it better. That has been proven in tests.
To break it down it was the price and the ports. The graphics are fine, watched The Green Hornet on this last night and I was satisfied with the performance. But to tell the truth I'm not a graphics whore.
I looked and played with all of these devices and I stick with my decision to buy the Acer.
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I obviously misinterpreted a conversation stater by the looks of it!
I beg pardon and stand aside.
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Torisen said:
Don't diss the Odom, you can't make any friends that way.
For me it was the ports it offered. If the galaxy offered a micro SD I probabally would have bought it. The Acer on the other hand offers a lot of ports, which I found very fun. On the Xoom issue the Acer actually out performs it on display as thy have the same one but Acer codes it better. That has been proven in tests.
To break it down it was the price and the ports. The graphics are fine, watched The Green Hornet on this last night and I was satisfied with the performance. But to tell the truth I'm not a graphics whore.
I looked and played with all of these devices and I stick with my decision to buy the Acer.
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My slight trolling aside, I agree with Torisen. The screen is better than most devices, albeit topped by the Galaxy. I find the extra ports and functionality a major deal breaker for me, as well as the price difference vs what you get with the galaxy (to me the xoom was never even a question, there is a reason google views it as a flop.) Also, I'm personally a fan of.the stainless chassis, both in appearance and functionality. As for the lag, a real world test of the galaxy provided similar results due to the bloated Samsung ui. Another key advantage is the near stock system, free of bloatware. After weighing all of my options, I am very happy with my iconia true, their whole update process was screwy, but they seemed to have cleared it up a little (for instance at least most everyone got the 4.010.13 update at the same time!) In yhe end, if youre not happy with it, it is a ffree market, get a different one.

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Obvious troll is obvious
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Sorry, but I tend to agree at least a little with Strider_mt2k because I don't understand posts like this. If I did not like a $300 device that I purchased, I wouldn't criticized it on the dedicated forum for that device, and then expect strangers to convince me to keep it.
My "love" for this tablet is definitely not going to do anything towards negating your disdain for it. Technology life is too short to keep a device that so obviously disappoints you. Return it and get a tablet that you want.

internetpilot said:
Sorry, but I tend to agree at least a little with Strider_mt2k because I don't understand posts like this. If I did not like a $300 device that I purchased, I wouldn't criticized it on the dedicated forum for that device, and then expect strangers to convince me to keep it.
My "love" for this tablet is definitely not going to do anything towards negating your disdain for it. Technology life is too short to keep a device that so obviously disappoints you. Return it and get a tablet that you want.
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Yeah I agree. It did come across as an insult to the device, not any form of question. Don't like it? Complain to staples or wherever you bought it and get a different device

The battery stand 8 hours if
- you do not use 3D Games constantly
- Brigthness arround 50%
I use about 12 hours straight my tablet, wifi constantly open, reading ebook, playing games (a little), going internet....
but I charge my tablet every 1.5 day or 2 days sometimes... no I do not use my tablet every 2 minutes
so far with GPS, full brightness, Sygic navigator... about 5hrs++ wich is nice... since I do not drive that long, and I don't need the navigator 5 hours in a row.
playing games 3D . 6hrs ++
playing normal games (angry bird) 8hrs...
Charge the tablet until 100% do not overnight, let the battery drain until 5% oftenly. that's how I use my tablet.
I do not use OVERCLOCK or else. when I make those feedback

Go get an iPad 2 then and stop whining. Oh wait... the display still sucks on an iPad. At least you get a great range of connectivity with the Iconia.

i work at staples, i have had the time to play with all the tablets, i personally recommend the Acer over all of them, even to my customers
the 100 dollar coupons kill our stores sale figures, but i used one and bought the Acer.
i do not regret it one bit, i love my acer. you shouldnt have your face that close to the screen to see the pixels, if you do need to, you need to get glasses

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First thing I noticed after performing all the updates was the lag. After exiting applications, it takes a little while for the icons to re-appear on the homescreen. I haven't added any besides the default. Also, when scrolling with the browser, it tends to render in square blocks.
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I don't have such issues, maybe you've got a defect one?
Battery life..I've read reviews that it goes up to 8 hours while others say it lasts between 4-5 hours, and others say 6 hours. I understand that what we do varies, and the battery needs to be calibrated. After having it on for 3 hours and playing FieldRunners for 45 min (the rest of the time it was idle with all wireless connections off), I'm at 75% remaining. That's pretty crummy. Not even a calibration will improve it THAT much.
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Well, how much do you really expect it to last when playing games? If you're claiming it's "crummy" then obviously you think some other tablet does a lot better, but.. well, so far I ain't seeing one. They all last more-or-less the same.
Besides... I don't play games on my tablet, but it's on for 3rd day in the row at the moment. I have WIFI on 24/7, I do some web browsing, reading comics etc. and it still has over 50% battery left. That ain't something I personally would call "crummy."
Also, when viewing a white background, you can see every "box" or pixel. Goodness, that's pretty frickin' bad. I'm not expecting any ridiculous "retina display" here but this is just a cheap panel.
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Those aren't pixels! You're seeing the grid used for touch-input. You're mixing the two concepts!
As for the grid: yes, it is sometimes visible. I personally don't get bothered by it since it isn't as clearly visible as you make it out to be. But I can understand if some others are bothered by it. It is even mentioned in all the better reviews that the grid can be seen easier than on other tablets. If the grid bothers you that much then go and get another tablet. But bear in mind that even iPads have the grid and atleast I can see it on those, too.
So, serious question. Why all the love for this thing?
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Because it is great hardware for a great price.

I've had mine for 48 hours, and I have to say I'm loving it. I did take into consideration the $100 off, and getting this device for $299. You can argue positives and negatives on devices of equal price, but for $299, the A500 is a bargain.
The two issues mentioned- display: yes, the transformer's display is brighter. BUT...I've read many, many posts over at the ASUS threads about light bleading. Further, about how the Transformer can "bend" a little due to plastic construction, and this in turn causes further problems. Still, I liked the TF...I was torn over between the two, so don't think I'm hating on ASUS here. But the display is about a 7.5-8/10 for me compared to the BEST displays I've seen. But its a 10/10 for $299.
Battery: I have only good things to say about battery life so far on mine. No, I don't play 3D games constantly, but compared to the many android phones I have had, I realize I'm not always thinking about having this plugged in just in case I'll need the battery power later.
The other points that were in the A500's favor were the aluminum as stated, full USB port (not a feature you should discount), mini usb port, etc. I can't imagine ONLY being able to transfer files via miniSD. That would be a pain.
Most of the other gripes I have are about Honeycomb...it's not up to competing directly yet with iPad, just a few bugs that keep it from going head to head right now. But that has nothing to do with the unit.
I got two A500's now by the way, and both seem to be working as advertised, they were better than I expected when I made the decision to buy them.

+ 1 for all the love here for our devices on such a hateful thread

The Odom Project said:
+ 1 for all the love here for our devices on such a hateful thread
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I love your haircut
Is that enough love? ^^

WereCatf said:
I love your haircut
Is that enough love? ^^
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Hehe yeah lol.now I just need to re pierce my lips lol. . . Damn here we go again with the OT lol

I love this baby... and I'm not new to my portable devices... with auto brightness and auto use i get all day battery... and that includes using it's USB port to charge my Moto Atrix when it needs it! I must admit tho mine was a bit laggy with te stock kernel, but that was an easy fix!

second thoughts?

As much as I really want the nexus 10 I'm having second thoughts... for the 500 + shipping I could get a really bomb ass tv.
I'm conflicted.
I know people on here will say go for the tab... and i really do miss having a tab since I sold my tf700... but should I get a tab since I already have a cell phone? I mean it's nice to have, but at the same time I'd really only use it when I'm traveling which isn't too often...and even then i've got my cell phone with games on it. ugh. what to do, what to do...

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As much as I really want the nexus 10 I'm having second thoughts... for the 500 + shipping I could get a really bomb ass tv.
I'm conflicted.
I know people on here will say go for the tab... and i really do miss having a tab since I sold my tf700... but should I get a tab since I already have a cell phone? I mean it's nice to have, but at the same time I'd really only use it when I'm traveling which isn't too often...and even then i've got my cell phone with games on it. ugh. what to do, what to do...
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Well, i think it depends on how often you travel? From my point of view i'm kinda in the same boat, with the added thing of having a young boy who gets bored in the car quite quickly, I was debating if I should buy one or not for the same reasons, then thought, well I can get a holder for the car, then the boy can use it to watch Nemo over and over and over and over again! lol, or play games or do whatever.
So do I want to pay £150 ish to get a half decent DVD player for the car, or can i justify a tablet? I can justify, between me using it when traveling, the missus, and the boy, then yes its worth it.
I think you know if you want it or not, if your racking your brain trying to find a reason to buy it, you don't need it. save your money. When it comes down to it, this is gunna change the tablet market with Android, all the other makers are gunna have to react, in 6 months, with the tegra 4 chips and everything else then their will be better out their. so wait.

I'm actually thinking what do I use a tablet for that my phone doesn't do? Not much. I do game on them if I'm traveling, but I don't travel that far for more than a day or two very often. I actually had a nice gaming laptop that I gave my wife because I never really used it when traveling. lol
nexus 7 AND a tv is looking like a better option right now... or maybe just a really nice tv.

Or get a really nice tv and stream your phone screen to the tv instead.

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I'm actually thinking what do I use a tablet for that my phone doesn't do? Not much. I do game on them if I'm traveling, but I don't travel that far for more than a day or two very often. I actually had a nice gaming laptop that I gave my wife because I never really used it when traveling. lol
nexus 7 AND a tv is looking like a better option right now... or maybe just a really nice tv.
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Yeah but what can a 7" tablet offer what a mobile phone can't? Neither is as comfortable for browsing and media consumption as a print quality 10" tablet, and this is why I have no interest in 7"-ers. A phone and a 10" tab. Phone and convertible. Phone and ultrabook. Phone and desktop computer. Phone and... a slightly bigger phone? Meh.

If you're unsure, hold out, it can be a lot of money to some people. Wait at least until some solid reviews are out and make a decision.
You should only be an early adaptor if you can justify spending the cash on something you really don't need.
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ya I want another tablet for sure, but the infinity kind of burned me with the horrible io performance. i will wait until i'm in a better financial place after the holidays and see what third party tablet makers put out since the nexus 10 will obviously be a big influence for them if they want to compete.

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ya I want another tablet for sure, but the infinity kind of burned me with the horrible io performance. i will wait until i'm in a better financial place after the holidays and see what third party tablet makers put out since the nexus 10 will obviously be a big influence for them if they want to compete.
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I'm still expecting Google to make a price/storage adjustment in a couple months, just like they did with the N7. Don't think I mean that the base price will drop below $399 tho.

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Or get a really nice tv and stream your phone screen to the tv instead.
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Mmhm.. and you'll get about half the usability of a tablet. Same virtual real estate as a phone, scaled up to a big and beautiful 40". Nice.
Personally, I'm planning on both the 4 and the 10 from the Nexus line. I see the phone as a more portable substitute for the 10 if I'm not hauling my bag around, plus it's quicker to just pull out of my pocket. But if I'm on a train or otherwise waiting/chilling in one place (like on my bed or something), I'd rather I had the tablet. That's why I haven't considered a 7-inch tablet, either.
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It depends on how much you use your phone. I was convinced that tablets are gimmicky and useless until I bought a galaxy note and started using it for all my media consumption, games and Web browsing. Recently I even started to get annoyed with how small my note was (desktop websites look cramped) so I pulled the trigger this week and got my first tablet.
Long story short, if you don't feel like you absolutely need a tablet (or if you really need that tv) then hold on a little bit.
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I've got a 4.3" phone, a 4.7" phone, a 5.3" phone, four (count 'em, 4) 7" tablets, an 8.9 inch tablet, used to have a 10.1 (and next week I'll have a N10).
Different horses for different courses. Phone is always with me, so it gets a lot of use by default...when I'm not at home. Once I get home, it goes on the charger and unless I get a call or text, I don't use it. It's an inferior entertainment/consumption device compared to a tablet.
My 7" tablets also travel with me quite a bit, often coming to work with me, and I'll whip out my current favorite, the N7, when I'm on a longer trip by plane, train, or automobile instead of my phone. It'll move about the house or hotel room with me as, mostly for ebook reading and light surfing. Biggest benefit is much better battery life than my phone so no in-flight charging worries, and it's damned near perfect for books (and light surfing).
My 8.9/10" tablets are more for home use, and usually hang out near the couch. I'll bring one on a trip if it's for more than a few days, but it never comes to the office with me. At home though, it gets used a LOT. Besides the couch, it's my bathroom Netflix/DLNA weapon of choice, it's a better surfing and magazine experience, and in some cases a better gaming experience as well. Plus hands-down it's better for productivity tasks (documents and spreadsheets) than a phone or a 7" tablet.
So I have a use case for all my various sized Android devices, and there's no one-size-fits-all device in that collection. But if I had to cut my devices down, I'd be able to get by with just the phone and a 8.9-10" tablet. The 7" is nice, but a bit more narrow-focused (and I could probably sub my N7 out for a good Kindle or Nook eInk device, if it came to that, since it's mostly used as a reader).

got a nice 42 inch sharp aquos 120hz tv... but i still have the void that a tablet should fill. LOL I think i'll wait not only due to money reasons, but to see if a 64gb comes out, or if I really would even use one... I think a 7inch phone is what i'm holding out for one portable device i can use on the couch, the bed, or anywhere and it'll have enough screen real estate... but the nexus 10 looks oh so good. If sprint had the 7 on mobile contract i'd buy it.