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Got tired of waiting! Bought the Acer

After keeping up with over 8000 posts of trying to get the Transformer, I gave in and spent the extra 50 for the Acer.
1) It was readily available at my local BB.
2) I didn't want to wait.
Im hoping before my 2 week return policy is up, transformers will start showing up and I can get one locally. If not, I have 14 days to decide if I keep the Acer or not.
Bottom line, Acer is nice. We also have an Ipad and NC in our household, and really, as a daily user, I don't see much difference between the Acer LCD and the IPS.
Internet loads faster than the Ipad. I havent tested everything but for what I use it for, its working fine.
My point: Try the Acer from your local BB. It may fit the need for the extra 50.
Or, cross our fingers and maybe Target will have a coupon code to get it sub 400 if and when it arrives May 15.

The acer doesn't look bad until you put side by side with the transformer.

Understandable!
Definitely be interested in hearing your impressions and what you like / don't like about it.
I love my Transformer, but there are a couple things that are pretty neat about the Acer, including haptic feedback and a USB port...

I personally only went with the Transformer because of the keyboard dock.

chay03 said:
We also have an Ipad and NC in our household, and really, as a daily user, I don't see much difference between the Acer LCD and the IPS.
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Not sure how you can say that. I've owned an iPad, NC - had an Acer for about 3 days from BB, and my TF came in a few days ago - world's difference between the IPS and non-IPS screens.
I love the Transformer and would heavily recommend against Acer. In addition to the screen - it's too bulky (yes I know on paper it's 50g but I could really feel it), not a fan of the aluminium back, hardware buttons are hard to get to (the rotation lock button was impossible to operate on 1st try). The pluses are USB host and rear camera flash but I was ok giving those up simply for the screen.
(My 2 cents...)

I'm waiting for my B&H order to come in after May 31st. If Samsung announces that their 10.1 has something other than Tegra2 and that out of the box their Exynos or Orion SoC can play 720p high profile than I'll cancel my order and wait til June 8.

Let me help you out a little:
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/tablets/asus/

touch screen grid
From what I've heard and pictures i've seen, the touch screen grid is VERY visible on the acer. This would drive me crazy.

Yes, the touch screen grid is visible but you really have to look for it.
Just enjoy the money spent and stop looking for something bad.
I can also agree with the other poster about the Ipad and Acer side by side. Of course you'll see a difference. Ex) G-tablet, very bad screen on its own, but side-by-side to anything else, of course it looks alot worse.
Me perosonally, I wanted it to be slightly thinner as far as holding it in portrait mode. I don't like the wider bezel transformer was taking up. Im using some version of a thumb keyboard that seems to work ok for me.
I haven't tested all the bells and whistles yet. I have downloaded a few apps and suprisingly, no force closes yet.
Now to the dock. Thats up to another 150, so you actually paying 550 transformer with dock before tax. From what i understand, my usb kb and mouse should work, free of charge. Or up to 50 something.
Extra battery life....ok. I can see if you travel alot, its understandable.
But I work 12 hours a day, work with kid's homework and make time for them, so I don't plan on using it hard like others.
Thats just how I see things, it works for me now, but if I do get a chance to play with a Transformer before my 14 days are up, I may switch. Who knows. But im not gonna hold my breath.
And sorry for not knowing how to use quotes...

I had the acer for a while, and yes it was nice. A little bulky (not sure the transformer is any different, I haven't received mine yet), the grid drove me nuts (I hardly ever saw it, but when I did it was really annoying and grabbed my attention).
The screen looked nice, but nothing like the ipad2 screen I saw. I'd still say it's worth the money if you don't care about the keyboard dock or if you need usb right on the tablet. My fiancee played with the acer while I had it, and now she bugs me every day about getting another one.

chay03 said:
Yes, the touch screen grid is visible but you really have to look for it.
Just enjoy the money spent and stop looking for something bad.
I can also agree with the other poster about the Ipad and Acer side by side. Of course you'll see a difference. Ex) G-tablet, very bad screen on its own, but side-by-side to anything else, of course it looks alot worse.
Me perosonally, I wanted it to be slightly thinner as far as holding it in portrait mode. I don't like the wider bezel transformer was taking up. Im using some version of a thumb keyboard that seems to work ok for me.
I haven't tested all the bells and whistles yet. I have downloaded a few apps and suprisingly, no force closes yet.
Now to the dock. Thats up to another 150, so you actually paying 550 transformer with dock before tax. From what i understand, my usb kb and mouse should work, free of charge. Or up to 50 something.
Extra battery life....ok. I can see if you travel alot, its understandable.
But I work 12 hours a day, work with kid's homework and make time for them, so I don't plan on using it hard like others.
Thats just how I see things, it works for me now, but if I do get a chance to play with a Transformer before my 14 days are up, I may switch. Who knows. But im not gonna hold my breath.
And sorry for not knowing how to use quotes...
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I can't enjoy spending more money on a lesser product, it's why I generally don't buy apple

seshmaru said:
I can't enjoy spending more money on a lesser product, it's why I generally don't buy apple
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my thoughts exactly.

toddmp said:
my thoughts exactly.
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seshmaru said:
I can't enjoy spending more money on a lesser product, it's why I generally don't buy apple
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Seriously?
Because while I am loving Honeycomb, my iPad 2 is killing my Transformer in speed, available apps, stability, interface consistency, size, build quality, speaker quality, battery life, media player quality....
Of course, there is a reason I am trying out Honeycomb... I like new technology!
(And I'd really like a microsd slot, but Steve says no! )

bleclair said:
Seriously?
Because while I am loving Honeycomb, my iPad 2 is killing my Transformer in speed, available apps, stability, interface consistency, size, build quality, speaker quality, battery life, media player quality....
Of course, there is a reason I am trying out Honeycomb... I'd really like a microsd slot, but Steve says no!
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I had an iPad I now gave to the misses, and it just felt like my 3GS on a bigger screen. Honeycomb feels like an actual tablet OS, even if it has it's flaws. Also the transformers sound is better, no use arguing with that since iPad only does mono sound. App availability is also not completely true, since I can't use iPhone apps properly on my iPad since it just blows em up making them generally look really bad or keeps em in a small box making them not attractive either. However Android apps generally scale to the tablet format well.
Speed can't really tell the difference, I have a custom ROM which might make a difference though. All other points are true though. But you don't buy a transformer at this point to get a finished product, you buy it on potential due to honeycomb needing to mature.

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Honeycomb feels like an actual tablet OS
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Totally agree with that one! Being able to connect a hard drive, keyboard, usb stick, etc. That's awesome!
As for app availability I'm finding the actual Honeycomb/tablet apps in short supply while there are many, many tablet specific apps on the Apple App Store.
The speakers on the iPad maybe be mono, but it sounds better to me.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I love both (well, I will love my Transformer again after a firmware update) but I just thought Apple didn't deserve such a hard knock.
You can hate their computers (I mean because of the price, locked in aspect and some people's dislike of OSX) but their tablets and phones are pretty nice.

bleclair said:
Totally agree with that one! Being able to connect a hard drive, keyboard, usb stick, etc. That's awesome!
As for app availability I'm finding the actual Honeycomb/tablet apps in short supply while there are many, many tablet specific apps on the Apple App Store.
The speakers on the iPad maybe be mono, but it sounds better to me.
Anyway, don't get me wrong, I love both (well, I will love my Transformer again after a firmware update) but I just thought Apple didn't deserve such a hard knock.
You can hate their computers (I mean because of the price, locked in aspect and some people's dislike of OSX) but their tablets and phones are pretty nice.
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I said apple in general, as I stated I owned an iPad and an iPhone 3GS, not everything they make is horribly overpriced, but in general they are.
and my point is that there are a ton of regular android apps that work really well on honeycomb, even though they don't get counted as "tablet apps".
I wasn't specifically knocking the iPad, just apple in general.

kudosmog said:
I had the acer for a while, and yes it was nice. A little bulky (not sure the transformer is any different, I haven't received mine yet), the grid drove me nuts (I hardly ever saw it, but when I did it was really annoying and grabbed my attention).
The screen looked nice, but nothing like the ipad2 screen I saw. I'd still say it's worth the money if you don't care about the keyboard dock or if you need usb right on the tablet. My fiancee played with the acer while I had it, and now she bugs me every day about getting another one.
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I compared them side by side, weight was one of the major issue for me but that probably just me.

[INFO] The New Hotness

Ok, so as a brit I got the new firmware this morning and the increased stability has really highlighted what a great concept and execution the Transformer and dock is (its now starting to show its true potential and that's in no small part to the exchange of info here on xda and the efforts of Asus to get fixes and updates out)
So.. the build quality has disappointed some people.. and delighted others..
So.. the NEW Galaxy tab is garnering plaudits with some stellar reviews about the sceen and form factor (lighter than the ipad 2! thinner than the ipad 2! etc...)
However.... showing this bit of kit to techies and non techies alike.. the potential is really starting to surprise people. Its a netbook, but it isn't.. its got insane battery life.. its a tablet with a pretty stunning screen.. its a netbook wtih a stunning screen.. Honeycomb is a lot more flexible than people realise.. etc etc..
I should caveat this with a disclaimer that (so far) I've been one of the 'lucky ones' with a unit with few if any quality control issues.. and perhaps ASUS need to ramp up in that department if the posts here about build quality issues are any barometer.. but so far, this is a kick ass bit of kit and IMHO thoroughly deserves the title of 'The New Hotness' - there's nothing out there like it

We need more positive threads like this.
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I've found that people don't really "get it" when I just describe how the TF is both a tablet and a netbook. However, when I _show_ them by popping it on and off the keyboard, suddenly the lightbulb seems to always go off. Makes for a great demo, and of course, it's just generally cool...
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Agreed... well written.

It will be perfect with 3.1 and an oc kernel that runs as fast as my gtab.
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Agreed that conceptually this is a great product.
I am on my second and both tablets suffer from built issues most notably significant light bleed.
If stock was more available I would like to exchange for a third and hope to get one that works just right but it is consitently out of stock and feels like a lottery to get one only to be let down when it copmes flawed.
Any of you having these issues?
Am I just being over picky about the light bleed?

Still can't get a keyboard here in Seattle

Well, after I got the Transformer, I envied the people that got the Galaxy Tab at the Google IO. Then I played with one and then I realized that if I had the choice, I'd go with the Transformer. And my wife, she now wants everything in the house to be Asus.
They say light bleed. I had to search for it a lot to find it. They say creakiness and I also had to twist the Transformer hardly to hear it. They said a lot of bad things, but you know what I think? Only people who have problems write comments and try to discuss their problems with the community and trying to fix it. But pleased people always stay away.
Anyway, I think the Transformer is the best compared to all the others and it is worth more that $400...

Theres a lot of love for this tablet, warts and all.. bring on Honeycomb 3.1... Definitely favour a stability release over a feature release at this stage

I am also very happy with mine. There is a little light bleed, but nothing I find bothersome. Way better than the iPad.
The docking station is the killer component of the system. With it the transformer changes from a device best suited to consumption to a device that can effectively create content. This is a huge advantage to me.
Jerry
PS. Glad to hear the new update made it to the UK. Mine received it the day I bought it and I have never had these sleep of death or other problems that occurred before the update.

Loving mine so far. With the last update the dock works even better. Now my ipad sits on a shelf.

jerrykur said:
I am also very happy with mine. There is a little light bleed, but nothing I find bothersome. Way better than the iPad.
The docking station is the killer component of the system. With it the transformer changes from a device best suited to consumption to a device that can effectively create content. This is a huge advantage to me.
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Yeah, reading that comparison thread of the four office products in the Apps & Themes section really brings home the content creation side of things... now for more music creation apps (iOS has a huge lead here)
Overaill, I guess the satisfied users will just have to evangelise the Transformers merits some more - but the lightbulb going on in peoples' heads when they see it in action (as was mentioned earlier) is really satisfying especially when its people who think tablets begin and end with Apple

I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.

newtybar said:
I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.
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Or perhaps you're making your own assumptions on the lack of severity of other peoples light bleed problems or whatever? They're not all the same you know.

newtybar said:
I think only the really "anal" are harping on the light bleed and creaking.
Honestly the average consumer probably won't even notice these issues.
I notice, but really don't care that much.
There's slight creaking when bending it hard....but really is that affecting my user experience? Not really...maybe it speaks to build quality, which isn't THAT bad.
Light bleed...if i focus reaalllllly hard on the bottom right hand corner on a fully black screen I can see it....but everyday usage it goes unnoticed.
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I guess I am anal then. I don't expect perfection but I don't need to search for light bleed I only need to view a dark background like a movie trailer in a dark room to see 4-5 patches of it along the bottom.
This has now happened on 2 different models so can't attribute it to a rare lemon.
As for creaking my first one was bad. The top and bottom bronze medal would click when holding it which was annoying.
The new one is much better in that regard. But the right side of the back plastic kind of gives when I first hold it.
So yes I am anal that I want my nearly 600$ tablet to have better build. But I also recognize the brilliance of the concept and if I can get one with less screen bleed I would be in love instead of on the fence to return.

I think the light bleed issue is somewhat inherent in the panel technology. The iPad seems to suffer light bleeds quite a lot and it seems to be somewhat worse in the new one. I also hear the new iPad is more fragile than the old one since Apple glued down the screen to make it thinner.

love my eee pad
I am really in love with my transformer.
I have a very light cracking on the right side....that's all.No hardware trouble at all.
I really LIKE HC, even it's not perfect, yet But it has a lot of potential for the future.
Most of the time the transformer runs smoothly and without trouble.

I gotta say this is the best tech device i have brought in ages.
Anyone whop knows me can guage how good a bit of tech is by how long it takes for me to whack it on ebay (normally a week lol) however the TF is just perfect for what i need.
Having owned 2 ipads and a galaxy tab i gotta say imho that this beats them all hands down. The dock makes a huge difference and turns a device which is mainly a concumption device into an excellent all rounder. It turns from a "i dont need it but its cool" device into a laptop/netbook replacement for most day to day tasks.
Ok you still need a pc if your into photoshop or video conversions etc but my gen 2 core i5 has just sat there limp and lonely for the last two weeks, basking in the shadows caused by this monolithic beauty.
When reading reviews before mine arrived i was worried about QC however i have come to realise that nothing will ever be perfect for everyone, and yes if you have a fault then you have the right to swap it. But am i going to go looking for faults NO, i have spent a nice £400 quid plus on this unit and you know what im gonna enjoy it for what it is!.
I love Samsung always have done but then again i have also always owned asus pc gear and know that there support generally is second to none let alone the reliability of there products. Hell lets not forget who invented the netbook in the first place, and while Apple may of have made the tablet popular Asus have made it USEFULL

thering1975 said:
I gotta say this is the best tech device i have brought in ages.
Anyone whop knows me can guage how good a bit of tech is by how long it takes for me to whack it on ebay (normally a week lol) however the TF is just perfect for what i need.
Having owned 2 ipads and a galaxy tab i gotta say imho that this beats them all hands down. The dock makes a huge difference and turns a device which is mainly a concumption device into an excellent all rounder. It turns from a "i dont need it but its cool" device into a laptop/netbook replacement for most day to day tasks.
Ok you still need a pc if your into photoshop or video conversions etc but my gen 2 core i5 has just sat there limp and lonely for the last two weeks, basking in the shadows caused by this monolithic beauty.
When reading reviews before mine arrived i was worried about QC however i have come to realise that nothing will ever be perfect for everyone, and yes if you have a fault then you have the right to swap it. But am i going to go looking for faults NO, i have spent a nice £400 quid plus on this unit and you know what im gonna enjoy it for what it is!.
I love Samsung always have done but then again i have also always owned asus pc gear and know that there support generally is second to none let alone the reliability of there products. Hell lets not forget who invented the netbook in the first place, and while Apple may of have made the tablet popular Asus have made it USEFULL
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Must say, I feel the same way about the Transformer. Since purchasing it I seem to be taking it everywhere with me like my phone. Did not think I would become that attached to a gadget even my wife is starting to get jealous!!!

I love my transformer too! It's an awesome piece of kit!
I bought an iPad2 the day after it launched (I managed to wander into a local store and they had one in stock!) and returned it a week later. There's no 'killer app' really, garageband was pretty cool and some of the games were nice, but as I already own an iPhone4, there was nothing I could do on the iPad that I couldn't do with my phone, and in fact as I've jailbroken my phone, I actually found the iPad very restrictive!
What really got me was having to jump through hoops wearing clown shoes with butter smeared on the bottom of them just to get any media on the iPad. I don't use iPhoto for my pictures and I don't buy movies from iTunes, so was fairly boned in terms of getting stuff on the device easily. With my transformer I just plug it in, and drag and drop! Or use wifi file transfer! Or use the microSD or SDHC on the dock! Or use the built in DNLA! So many options!
I've had my transformer for over a month now, and I still haven't sold or returned it! I will admit I've been lucky with mine, the only real problems I have are apps crashing a bit more often than I'd like them to. Everything else works wonderfully!
Compared to the iPoo, on my transformer I have a bunch of HD movies (including Avatar, which looks AMAZING!), loads of photos that the gallery just picks up on automatically, a few games, including fpse with final fantasy 7, 8 & 9, super puzzle fighter 2 turbo and a bunch of others, and a web browsing experience that actually works on pretty much every website I've been to! And I won't even bother mentioning the dock, and how many benefits that brings to an already great tablet!
Apple could learn a lot from the flash implementation! Practically the only use I found for the iPad was as a couch-based web browser, and without flash, that's pretty useless too!
Add that to the fact that there aren't as many decent tablet apps for the iPad as most of the media would have you believe (I spent a week looking for apps for the iPad2, and couldn't really find anything that wowed me), and the iPhone apps look terrible on the iPad, and it leads me to the conclusion that most of the people who praise the iPad over a device like the transformer have either sub-par intelligence, are living under a rock as far as knowing how tech works, or have fingers like pork pies (extremely fat).
Pretty much everyone I've shown my transformer too has been very impressed by it, and I know at least 10 of them are now trying to source their own transformers! I work in a big office full of techie people, so that number will probably increase! I kinda wish I could get some form of commission!
If I had to say anything bad about my transformer it's that the marketing behind video playback on tegra 2 devices has been a bit misleading. I have handbrake on my PC and mac and have saved templates that create lovely running HD files, but when I bought my transformer, I was kinda under the impression that it would play almost anything, what with the marketing touting "Full 1080p playback".
The only advice I have offered people is "if you don't have a tablet already, and you're not in any rush, keep an eye out on the upcoming tegra 3 tablets. They will handle pretty much any video resolution and encoding, and if you're planning on waiting a couple of months before getting a tablet, it *may* be worth holding out for the tegra 3."
Apparently the tegra 3 can handle resolutions up to 2560x1600, so it should handle high profile 1080p video fine, according to this demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPN3hHI9y-E
I just hope more can be eeked out of the tegra 2 chips, so I don't have to transcode every HD movie I want to watch on my transformer!
Although that said, other than that minor annoyance, I think my transformer is one of the best gadgets I've ever owned, and I like my gadge! Plus, it allows me to browse the net and remote control my home PC from work, with it tethered by bluetooth to my iphone. Pleasing.
Sorry for the long post, can't help gushing about the transformer sometimes! haha!

Thoughts of let down with a hint of mutiny...

Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...

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Odd title eh'?
So here is the boat I am swimming in. I jumped on the Xoom bandwagon when it was released. I immediately was fascinated with the tablet experience and enjoyed it. The Xoom certainly had its issues but was a very neat device. When I got word that the TF was coming out I jumped ship and bought a TF. Used it for a week and also liked it for the most part. However I was finding that productivity really lacked on all tablets on screen keyboard. Then I got my hands on a dock and the experience changed. Using the keyboard was infinately more productive and I found that from the day I first docked it I have yet to undock it (around a couple months now).
My problem is I basically just spent a ton of money on a netbook that isnt exactly a speed demon. Web browsing is often slow, updates have caused many issues, etc etc... The device still works but it feels like im playing with a toy instead of actually using the device as a tool. I enjoy Android but think it is very early in the game and it leaves allot to be desired. As I said at first i loved both devices but once the newness wears off you basically have a dumbed down netbook (in my opinion of course).
So now Im thinking about selling the TF as well and picking up one of the new Sandy Bridge Alienware M11x's. To be able to have an i7 processor, damn good video card, and best of all use all my programs in windows sounds like a breath of fresh air at this point.
I know tablets are meant to be stand alone but I never found a use for it for work purposes and the few times I did it was quite the let down. Again, dont read my words wrong. I like the device I just dont think it is good at being anything much more then a toy at this point.
After more thought the only real downside I see in switching is losing the touch screen. It is super nice to be able to just tap where you want to go but often on smaller links it would just pick the wrong one anyways.
So here I sit trying to figure if I should make the switch or not. I know im not comparing apples to apples hardware wise, but I am comparing portable device usefulness. Just curious if anyone has the same feelings or any further input before I make my decision.
Godspeed...
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Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.

Bob Smith42 said:
Yep. I think people will be switching, and you should too.
The dock is addictive for productivity. Unless I tried it I would have not realized how much better is the experience. Yet, when reading a book I prefer only the tablet. This combination is awesome on the Transformer.
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+1, and if anyone is that worried about selecting the wrong link by accident they can always use the mouse pointer via the trackpad. I've had no problem doing it this way and it's a big plus for the TF.

Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.

GeLopez said:
Sounds to me like you have no business owning a tablet and windows fits your needs. I'm glad you got that figured out.
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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..

Lets put things into perspective here...
The tablet is not a laptop, it can perform many functions of a laptop, but it is truly not one.
It does have a place in the field. I have found that for business, being able to show information instantly to partners without having to 'boot up' or 'plug in' is essential when I want to get a point across.
It is great for email, messaging, movies, light surfing, reading, and even playing some good casual games on.
The dock makes it appear to be more like a laptop, but again.. go back to my 2nd sentence, and do not put it in a category it does not belong in.
If I need to develop, I use my Alienware mx17-r2, if I need to demo products I have my Inspiron. If I need to take notes, read a quick email, show a slide deck / video, or just look something up real quick, I have my TF101.
So this is more about how you set your expectations above what a product is intended to do, and now have buyer's remorse because of it.

Sounds like you put expectations on the device geared towards what it is not. Go get a netbook or start hackin up the ROM and tailor it to your needs.

Instant On
16 hours of battery life.
Love it.
True though...I barely ever undock it now ahahahah...so we've kind of went full circle...
It's nice to know that I can undock it though.
Even as a netbook it is sleek...IPS screen...touchscreen. The interface is just nice for what it's meant to be...a light portable machine.
I can listen to music/pandora...type up some docs...play some games...browse some web...watch some movies....read some magazines...
Edit: oh yeah...I can mount it in my car and use it as a GPS....use yelp to find nearby food places then map a route to it...(yes this can be done on phone too)...but it's kind of cool.
It's kind of nice.

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I think the TF is perfect for his needs. The problem is, that this tablet HAS SO MANY PROBLEMS. This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration! And the fact that there is light bleed, dock issues, battery issues, charging issues, sound issues, etc. Asus really screwed up..
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I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect

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I dont know of any problems you speak of ,mine is perfect
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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.

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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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my issues havent been hardwre related, just update related. That being said I dont blame Asus for my particular concerns. Im still a TF fan but just think to achieve a broader gambut of ability at the same basic price point is the wise move. Obviously this is mainly due to me personally always using the dock.
Ironically on a side note I bought one of the first asus netbooks years ago and hated it after a month. Now Im finding myself wanting to use the TF daily, go figure....
And lastly I dont think I would have even looked at m11x if the performance on this thing was simply up to par...

xTRICKYxx said:
This tablet is much slower than any tegra 2 tablet as there is no hardware acceleration!
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Actually, the TF benchmarks very competitively against other Tegra 2 tablets. The only area where it's not (allegedly) hardware accelerated is in playing Flash videos in the browser.

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I don't have those problems either, but thousands do.
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Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
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Dave

foxmeister said:
Where do you get the idea that it is "thousands"?
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That wouldn't be surprising. Even 5k would be less than 1% out there by now. I mean heck, last month alone they shipped out 400k didn't they?

My Review of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition)

I purchased the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) from amazon two weeks ago with overnight shipping. I received it the next day and was impressed by the build quality, except, the right side speaker is slightly loose. I did not notice it was loose until I read another post here saying they had a loose speaker and many others started to find out that theirs was too. Other than that, everyone was perfectly constructed.
When I turned it on for the first time everything was fast and fluid, even with Samsung's TouchWiz and all the other bloaty widgets and apps they come with. I have to say, Samsung can really make a polished piece of hardware, but that is where they should stop, unless they are going to invest a much larger amount of energy in to developing their software platforms. I have the Galaxy S4 as my phone, and now the Galaxy Note 10.1 Tablet, and I always love everything about the Samsung products except for almost 100% of the software they develop... but I will get in to that a little later.
One of the big reasons that I chose this over other Samsung tablets to be my first tablet since I got an Archos Internet Tablet (in 2008 or 9 ), well besides the obviously beastly processor and RAM, was because it had the physical button on the frame and a software digital button. I know a lot of users here and elsewhere hate the physical button, but I don't understand why when you are just wasting space on your screen when the frame of your device would have been actual wasted space without the button. I've used the Galaxy Tab 2 10inch and one of my biggest annoyances was the on-screen buttons because I use the app Splashtop to remotely control my PC, and those damn software navigation buttons always got in the way.
Anyways, on to other things, this thing is fast and powerful. 20-25 apps running in the background and no slow down of any noticeable amount. After a few days though, TouchWiz started lagging tremendously whether there were any apps running or not. Now I've replaced the stock TouchWiz with Nova Launcher Prime, and the Lock Screen with WidgetLocker, and never have I seen any lag on this device since. Plays large, HD quality games like FIFA 14 perfectly.
The S-Pen is actually really cool and I'm a fanatic about productivity and some of the features related to the S-Pen are really great when trying to be productive. It has a feature that lets you scrap book any video, image, text, area of the screen, etc. that I use often to research certain topics and bring them together. Action memo allows me to write down an address that someone is telling me over the phone, then circle it with S-Pen and it will pull up gMaps to direct me there automatically. It was a little strange getting used to writing on a tablet though but now it feels as fluid as if I were writing with a real pen.
I have to say something about the graphical quality of the screen though. It is beautiful, and I have not seen a better quality screen for such a device ever before. The resolution is higher than my Desktop PCs and it definitely shows. It is definitely better than even the iPad Air that I went to check out a couple days ago. Apparently this factor alone is the reason that this Dual-Quad-Core tablet requires that much processor, but that's fine with me.
The Note came with a host of perks such as a $25 Google Play gift card, a $50 Samsung Hub credit, Hulu+, Newsweek, premium "wifi hotspot" membership for 18 months and more that I won't every use. This brings me back to my biggest downfall with Samsung though. They give me $50 to spend on the Samsung Hub (Their version of the Play Store) and when I go there, everything is either junk, already pre-installed on my device, or just something I'm not interested in. I really wanted to use the Samsung Credit to buy some Tech E-Books through their book store and use the Play Store credit for apps/games, but their store only has about 25 tech-related books! So when I decide I won't be buying any books there and try to get some apps and games, half of the decent games worth buying take me directly to the Play Store instead. I feel like I may have this Samsung Credit for a while..
But getting less free stuff than I wanted is not going to detract even 1 star from this bad ass hog. Overall the thing is more powerful than any tablet in its price range, has the highest quality video capabilities, comes with a unique S-Pen that other tablets just don't have, and is a Droid!
:good: 4.5/5 is what my rating would have to be, because they have created a great tablet, and could have got a full 5/5 if they just polished and worked on their software platforms until completion.
Hopin to get KitKat Soon, came stock with 4.3. Thanks for reading.

Great Review
Awesome post mate.

Nice to read something positive.

Nice review
I must agree too , this is Samsungs most polished Tablet to date ..

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I feel like I may have this Samsung Credit for a while..
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Nice review.
Unlike Google $25, Samsung $50 expires after 90 days. I myself haven't found a book or app worth spending this credit on.

There are some good documentaries in movies
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my opinion
.I'm using my note for 1 week now...
I've got the 16g wi fi version.
I ve got the 16 bec ause that was the only one available at the store and since there wo n't be any model available in my country soon and I was travelling in the US I, ve decided to buy this on with a 32g sd card.
So far everything is fine, stock configuration and beginning to do some customizations.
My previous tablet was the asus tf300 wich was stolen.
My first concearn was about the 16g of storage....Yes it's small but since I'm moving all available apps and files to sd card everything is working ok. Can't notice any difference between sd or internal apps running.
The s pen is awesome. the kind of thing that you just know you need it only after you get it. Much easier and accurate navigation through the tablet with it.
The multi screen function is also awesome. no need to exit one browser to see other one again....
The only thing that bothers me , and that's not a only Samsung fault, is the amout of pre installed apps.
I was waiting for the tf701 and the new nexus 10.....wich won't be available here either. ... Since both weren't available I've decided for the Samsung.
I'm a regular user, the main use is for reading aircraft manuals and articles and using some life easing and time saving apps...and so far I'm happy with my choice.the tablet is doing its job.
I read lots of reviews and comparisons and my conclusion is that when premium tablet is the concearn. ..regular every day users like me , any pick is a good pick.....Is pretty much like buying a premium sports car.... some will prefer Ferrari some lamborgini and others Porches but either one will be a great choice.

@luizfpg Nice review and also sounds like your a fellow Aircraft Engineer :good:

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@luizfpg Nice review and also sounds like your a fellow Aircraft Engineer :good:
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Pilot actually cheers. ...

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Pilot actually cheers. ...
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Oh go away then

How long does the device last between charge? Can you share some lights on your usage too?

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How long does the device last between charge? Can you share some lights on your usage too?
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That's a point where I'm not very satisfied. I think that me battery drains faster than it shoud. I use the device basically with wi fi on all the time right now my battery is low but latter after charging I'll reply with time time availability shown with 100%.

I think the battery is one of the few areas of honest disappointment. I don't like Android devices that make you do a lot of discovery to find battery drain culprits, or hold a charge quite as well as you'd expect. That's one area where I blame the TouchWiz skin on this tablet.
You were right to highlight the screen, it's absolutely phenomenal. It's far better than my Nexus 10 which was something. It outclasses my iPad as well, it's not just clear it has beautiful color reproduction. It's a bit heavier than I expected after reviews, and my home button is sticky. Besides that it's well made.
It's funny though, I can't say without a doubt I'd recommend it to people if it weren't for the S-Pen usage. The SPen on this is incredible, it works better than you'd think if you have no experience with it. No lag, good software tied in with it, it's the real deal as far as having a virtual notebook. That's why I bought it and why I love it so far. Take that away and the TouchWiz skin seems so unnecessary in so many ways. As someone who uses a Note 3 everyday, this clearly isn't as fast or slick, but it has the real estate. Interesting device.

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How long does the device last between charge? Can you share some lights on your usage too?
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I don't have an precise answer for that but I followed some of the advices from the battery saving thread and the battery is actually lasting longer.

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I don't have an precise answer for that but I followed some of the advices from the battery saving thread and the battery is actually lasting longer.
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I have had mine for only a couple of days, and it's great except for the battery life. I also followed the advise on the battery saving thread, and seems to help.

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Battery life about 10 hours medium usage with full-brightness. I drain the battery pretty quick though playing games on it and watching hulu..
I feel like my friends older Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 gets better battery life, but then again he always has the brightness to a minimum. I always max the brightness because its just too good looking.
By the way another thing I love about this tablet vs the Galaxy Tabs is that it uses the standard android MicroUSB charger instead of a fat proprietary looking one that doesn't charge any of my other devices.

ddavtian said:
Nice review.
Unlike Google $25, Samsung $50 expires after 90 days. I myself haven't found a book or app worth spending this credit on.
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I believe it can also be used on movies and music.

Alternate to HDX? Or is this best evar?

I am starting to believe that this was the best tablet of its size and relative price range ever made. Is there a better tablet out there? It looks like the most recent Microsoft Surface, Google Slate, and some iPads (never!) have it beat but they also cost over $1k.
Can you recommend a tablet that is comparable or better that is easier to customize? (root, unlock, and flash with ROMs/community to support it)?
Seems like this is the tablet to have but it's so darn finicky and the USB port is prone to failure (PC won't recognize/interface) rendering even ADB methods unavailable.
Any thoughts? I sold my Nexus 7 in a weak moment and I'm kicking myself.
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rabaker07 said:
I am starting to believe that this was the best tablet of its size and relative price range ever made. Is there a better tablet out there? It looks like the most recent Microsoft Surface, Google Slate, and some iPads (never!) have it beat but they also cost over $1k.
Can you recommend a tablet that is comparable or better that is easier to customize? (root, unlock, and flash with ROMs/community to support it)?
Seems like this is the tablet to have but it's so darn finicky and the USB port is prone to failure (PC won't recognize/interface) rendering even ADB methods unavailable.
Any thoughts? I sold my Nexus 7 in a weak moment and I'm kicking myself.
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Onn 8" from Walmart. Make no mistake it is no HDX but makes up for deficits with a clean Android 9.x build that's highly usable right out of the box; no root needed. Far superior to Amazon's current offerings with possible exception to HD 8 and 10, both of which are harder to customize vs HDX and have limited custom ROM support. $64 US.

I really do feel this way ever since picking up my 8.9 4 years ago. I use it almost exclusively for reading ebooks and manga and the screen continues to impress, sporting incredibly high DPI while being comfortable to hold, and excellent battery life even today, taking me through several days' worth of reading at 4 hours a day without issue. Even the 2019 iPad Air is only 265ppi (gsmarena) while the HDX 8.9 is standing at 339ppi. For text, there's no difference, but for manga, the greater capacity for detail is very welcome. The wide bezels on the HDX, and the lighter weight, as well as the 16:10 screen ratio all put the HDX far ahead of competition for reading, which is what Amazon wanted people to do with the Kindle line anyways.
Been looking for an upgrade, also primarily for reading, but pretty much everything on the market right now have worse screens (to be honest, it's hard to beat 2560x1600 resolution on a tablet and I'm convinced the HDX 8.9 was far ahead of its time), or are geared towards other multimedia like videos and mobile gaming, which I have no use for. Anyone feel like they're stuck in the same boat? I would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
Thanks OP for making this thread. I totally agree with you here.
Seems that the Onn 8" has a 1280x800 resolution screen. After being spoiled by the 8.9's gorgeous screen, it would be too much of a downgrade. I want to find a tablet for reading for my lil sis as she's starting middle school soon, and it's a real dilemma right now. Been eyeing this one dude's ebay listing for a 32GB 8.9" for $82 that already has all the legwork done with LineageOS installed, but I have concerns about buying such an old tablet, although I'm still using mine daily without issue.

LunarisDream said:
I really do feel this way ever since picking up my 8.9 4 years ago. I use it almost exclusively for reading ebooks and manga and the screen continues to impress, sporting incredibly high DPI while being comfortable to hold, and excellent battery life even today, taking me through several days' worth of reading at 4 hours a day without issue. Even the 2019 iPad Air is only 265ppi (gsmarena) while the HDX 8.9 is standing at 339ppi. For text, there's no difference, but for manga, the greater capacity for detail is very welcome. The wide bezels on the HDX, and the lighter weight, as well as the 16:10 screen ratio all put the HDX far ahead of competition for reading, which is what Amazon wanted people to do with the Kindle line anyways.
Been looking for an upgrade, also primarily for reading, but pretty much everything on the market right now have worse screens (to be honest, it's hard to beat 2560x1600 resolution on a tablet and I'm convinced the HDX 8.9 was far ahead of its time), or are geared towards other multimedia like videos and mobile gaming, which I have no use for. Anyone feel like they're stuck in the same boat? I would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
Thanks OP for making this thread. I totally agree with you here.
Seems that the Onn 8" has a 1280x800 resolution screen. After being spoiled by the 8.9's gorgeous screen, it would be too much of a downgrade. I want to find a tablet for reading for my lil sis as she's starting middle school soon, and it's a real dilemma right now. Been eyeing this one dude's ebay listing for a 32GB 8.9" for $82 that already has all the legwork done with LineageOS installed, but I have concerns about buying such an old tablet, although I'm still using mine daily without issue.
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dont buy it, much 2 expensive... i even got 2 hdx7 ers and got an issue with usb connectivity ...i ve 2 switch recovery mode 2 transfer files by usb

kinupsi said:
dont buy it, much 2 expensive... i even got 2 hdx7 ers and got an issue with usb connectivity ...i ve 2 switch recovery mode 2 transfer files by usb
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This is not a generic device defect. I have owned close to a dozen gen 3 HDX examples over the past 7 years (given away most to family/friends). I have yet to experience s hardware issue that wasn't related to mishandling or simply age. Almost all usb connectivity issues are relates to host drivers, sketchy usb ports or crappy cables.

Huawei Mediapad 7.0 T2 Lite its the only decent alternative with the same screen size
Saddly ,(at least for me) its too expensive (150 dollars on Aliexpress+30 dollars shipping)
I tried to switch to a Ipad Mini 4 ,isnt the same, i cant handle ipad with one hand like the kindle, and some apps isnt ported to the screen ratio.
Probably next year the 7" phones will be the standart size, and we can get decent specs .

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Probably next year the 7" phones will be the standart size, and we can get decent specs .
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Funny you say that, I was looking at the new Pixel 4s and was actually considering the smaller one because they're both so big! In the next few years our phones will be the size of tablets...!
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xiaomi plant 4

DB126 said:
This is not a generic device defect. I have owned close to a dozen gen 3 HDX examples over the past 7 years (given away most to family/friends). I have yet to experience s hardware issue that wasn't related to mishandling or simply age. Almost all usb connectivity issues are relates to host drivers, sketchy usb ports or crappy cables.
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i never said its an generic problem on that device.
and i believe u, but i tried that hdx7 on other computers and cables: everytime i ve 2 switch in recovery mode 2 transfer files, so the problem is not the host, like i said ( i am not a person whos says something without trying EVERY option...)
dont misunderstood: i luv my 3 hdx (16gb, 32gb, 64gb) but they r not perfect BUT 82£ is ridiculously expensive! should nt be more than 50 Euro/ 45£ (come on, they r now at least 6 years old)

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i never said its an generic problem on that device.
and i believe u, but i tried that hdx7 on other computers and cables: everytime i ve 2 switch in recovery mode 2 transfer files, so the problem is not the host, like i said ( i am not a person whos says something without trying EVERY option...)
dont misunderstood: i luv my 3 hdx (16gb, 32gb, 64gb) but they r not perfect BUT 82£ is ridiculously expensive! should nt be more than 50 Euro/ 45£ (come on, they r now at least 6 years old)
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D'oh boy ...

DB126 said:
D'oh boy ...
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This is not polite, u know that? could u please tell the world and me, why u r impolitely rolled your eyes? (english is not my native tounge btw so be kind and explain easy as possible)

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This is not polite, u know that? could u please tell the world and me, why u r impolitely rolled your eyes? (english is not my native tounge btw so be kind and explain easy as possible)
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The USB connectivity issues you experienced do not mirror the positive experience of many others who acquired the proper drivers and followed suggested trouble shooting procedures. That along with the "don't buy it" sentiment, instance that you have tried "EVERY" conceivable option and surprising response to a nearly 2 year old post scored the eye role.

DB126 said:
The USB connectivity issues you experienced do not mirror the positive experience of many others who acquired the proper drivers and followed suggested trouble shooting procedures. That along with the "don't buy it" sentiment, instance that you have tried "EVERY" conceivable option and surprising response to a nearly 2 year old post scored the eye role.
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(cant read a apologize from u, maybe u dont realize, that eyerolling is childish and impolite..if u got some mental disorder like asperger and dont know how "normal" people talk ...sry...and i mean it (nor sarcasm here))....anyway, if not, then its time 2 learn manners:
1. thx, but no thx because u might think of yourself as the "i know it all, so i troll" cause u put "every" in quotation marks, like we r going 2 be literally and not objectively, like smart a**es do. as we know everyone,... 2. who do u think u r, that u may talk 4 everybody? When i say i got the told issue, than it is so, and yes i tried !EVERY! possible step even more than u would imagine and instead to get along with my facts u prefer to exacerbate the issue and suggest i lie, or i didnt troubleshoot enough...wow... 3. u even put words in my mouth i never told, like that every device got that problem (until now, i dont understand, why u did that, but maybe my prolouge was right here) 4. u did not help at all, i think imho that u need that: just blabla without sense and need... just because u think of yourself as important as u think of yourself...poor boy, if i am right... times will be better, even 4 u, dear.. (yes, this was a bit sarcasm) 5. u know what? i often read in boards the words "use the search function" and blabla...so i suddenly stumbled in this post and wrote helpfully stats ..maybe 4 someone else as the topic creator...and even if the post is 10 years old, there is no need 2 be rude, my "i know it all"
instead of "explaining" your eyerolling and taking it literally, i wanted an "apologize your unnecessary and offensive behaviour" but even this u couldnt "read between" the lines... maybe again my prologue is right, than everything is alright, poor boy and else: learn manners before u talk 2 adults, kid... i am 2 old 4 this ****

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(cant read a apologize from u, maybe u dont realize, that eyerolling is childish and impolite..if u got some mental disorder like asperger and dont know how "normal" people talk ...sry...and i mean it (nor sarcasm here))....anyway, if not, then its time 2 learn manners:
1. thx, but no thx because u might think of yourself as the "i know it all, so i troll" cause u put "every" in quotation marks, like we r going 2 be literally and not objectively, like smart a**es do. as we know everyone,... 2. who do u think u r, that u may talk 4 everybody? When i say i got the told issue, than it is so, and yes i tried !EVERY! possible step even more than u would imagine and instead to get along with my facts u prefer to exacerbate the issue and suggest i lie, or i didnt troubleshoot enough...wow... 3. u even put words in my mouth i never told, like that every device got that problem (until now, i dont understand, why u did that, but maybe my prolouge was right here) 4. u did not help at all, i think imho that u need that: just blabla without sense and need... just because u think of yourself as important as u think of yourself...poor boy, if i am right... times will be better, even 4 u, dear.. (yes, this was a bit sarcasm) 5. u know what? i often read in boards the words "use the search function" and blabla...so i suddenly stumbled in this post and wrote helpfully stats ..maybe 4 someone else as the topic creator...and even if the post is 10 years old, there is no need 2 be rude, my "i know it all"
instead of "explaining" your eyerolling and taking it literally, i wanted an "apologize your unnecessary and offensive behaviour" but even this u couldnt "read between" the lines... maybe again my prologue is right, than everything is alright, poor boy and else: learn manners before u talk 2 adults, kid... i am 2 old 4 this ****
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Wall of text speaks for itself; moving on. Good luck with life, pal.

the only tablet that come to my mind is ,
xiaomi pad 4.
8 inch 1920x 1200 resolution
stereo speaker.
4gb ram with 32gb rom plus sd card expansion,
custom rom up to android 10 now.

LunarisDream said:
I really do feel this way ever since picking up my 8.9 4 years ago. I use it almost exclusively for reading ebooks and manga and the screen continues to impress, sporting incredibly high DPI while being comfortable to hold, and excellent battery life even today, taking me through several days' worth of reading at 4 hours a day without issue. Even the 2019 iPad Air is only 265ppi (gsmarena) while the HDX 8.9 is standing at 339ppi. For text, there's no difference, but for manga, the greater capacity for detail is very welcome. The wide bezels on the HDX, and the lighter weight, as well as the 16:10 screen ratio all put the HDX far ahead of competition for reading, which is what Amazon wanted people to do with the Kindle line anyways.
Been looking for an upgrade, also primarily for reading, but pretty much everything on the market right now have worse screens (to be honest, it's hard to beat 2560x1600 resolution on a tablet and I'm convinced the HDX 8.9 was far ahead of its time), or are geared towards other multimedia like videos and mobile gaming, which I have no use for. Anyone feel like they're stuck in the same boat? I would love to hear your thoughts and recommendations.
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In 2021 the 8.9 HDX is still my favorite form factor for the reasons you mention- easy to hold with one hand due to thicker bezel, light weight, and the grippy coating on the back. I also mainly use for reading and watching video, the hi-res 8.9 display is great for that.
These are much cheaper today on EBay, etc. and they run reasonably well with custom ROM. I only wish it had 3GB RAM for smoother performance with GApps, but this is a 2013 tablet. I think the biggest detriment now is that they all have old batteries with varying degrees of degradation.
If you don't care about holding one-handed, the 2021 HD 10 is only somewhat more when they are on sale and I think the most practical choice. The 3GB RAM really helps it run smoothly with Google Play and the Amazon stuff all running side-by-side.