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Hope someone can offer me some advice. Video playback is very high on my priorities. I currently have an Omnia which is pretty flawless playing back DIVX or XVID encoded files. I am not interested in playing back High Def content, only xvid/divx avi files that I download such as TV and DVD Rips.
How good is the Touch HD with Coreplayer, I am pretty worried from all that I read about HTC/Qualcomm drivers not working properly and this is a deal breaker for me. I don't know if the Touch Pro 2 is the same, I know it has the same processor.
I have been out of contract for a couple of months and was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play, at least until Coreplayer for Iphone is released. I was happy with my Omnia but I seem to have endless problems with getting programs working as they should and of course there is no official support on this site.
If video playback is ok for these type of files I may go for either the Diamond 2/Touch Pro 2 or Touch HD as they all seem to be a similiar spec.
Booo, DivX on HD
One of the main reasons I bought my Touch HD was for playing Divx. I have a couple of old Dell Axims which have been great but the attraction with the Touch HD was it was a phone aswell, GPS, bluetooth for the car and I could watch films on the train to work in high res still.
Actually, it's a bit rubbish in my opinion. The screen is amazing but you cannot use TCPMP that well as it judders too much. So you have to resort to using the pretty limited Coreplayer (no AC3 support which is annoying when you only realise after you have boarded your train to work!). No easy way of fast forwarding as you cannot program all the soft touch buttons. No easy way of raising / lowering the volume either.
Oh yes and it still skips and judders in Coreplayer unless you are watching a boring movie about paint drying as it has no movement on the screen.
I bet you will get a ton of positive responses but this is what I think. If you are still tempted after my rant about the HD then I would suggest trying it.
of course if you are interested in buying it then it is an amazing DivX player and works flawlessly.
I will second Damians post, although Rubbish might be a little harsh...
Like you I was very excited to basically just drop a couple of TV shows on the Storage Card without any interaction and start playing them on my way to work but it didn't take long to realize that was merely a dream...
I consider myself being picky about quality and as of now the quality in such a setup is not watchable. At the moment I encode with Super and then transfer to Storage Card (got it setup fairly automatic with MobSync). I am holding on with hopes of better compatibility from CorePlayer (support for the chip), a better player or any other major breakthrough in the issue since I do think that for me there is no phone on the market that can beat the incredible screen... that I believe was made for watching media such as described.... sigh...
On a small note.... I had the Diamond2 to compare (benchmarked and simple visual comparison) side by side and though benchmarking exceeds the Touch HD (HD: 75-90% vs D2: 105-120%) as well as the visual appearence.... the screen really is a major difference that might be worth waiting for a better HD solution...
2 cents... signed and delivered...
//Nik
Thanks for the advice. I was hoping for something more positive re playback but you more or less just confirmed what I thought. I think I'm going to go for the new Iphone this summer if I need to convert files anyway.
I havn't found it too bad to be honest (and I'm another perfectionist). I was annoyed for weeks and spent ages scanning this forum and different options, but as it stands, on the newest stock rom (which only uses up 29% of ROM), using SDcard tune-up, and the best options in Coreplayer (turning sound to mono-join etc), I get no skips in films or TV shows. I'm perfectly happy with it, although I do make sure to check the videos play once I've dropped them on (and 8 out 10 of thousands of Divx/Xvid/Avis from loads of sources work on the box).
So 8/10 for me. I'll try to provide more info if you need.
There is a tool, called "HTC Touch HD Video Converter", just search the forum. Works very fast, esp. on two core machines. In my opinion, this is the best converter, every movie i've converted with this tool runs just gorgeous on my touch HD using the built-in player Album. No delays, no sound issues at all - just like it should be, smooth and the picture is brilliant.
I used different converters and I don't know what's so special about this one but it just works, other didn't (in my case). I was kinda disappointed with the touch HD, videos didn't run smoothly, I even wanted to buy the ipod touch, before I used this tool.
here we go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
meddleuk said:
was waiting to get an Iphone but I will have to encode all my xvid files in order for them to play
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I think this information is'nt correct. You have tried out the free vxflash from Cydia store? You should be able to play divx, xvid, and flv files directly with iPhone with no conversion.
See http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=3895
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I havn't found it too bad to be honest (and I'm another perfectionist). I was annoyed for weeks and spent ages scanning this forum and different options, but as it stands, on the newest stock rom (which only uses up 29% of ROM), using SDcard tune-up, and the best options in Coreplayer (turning sound to mono-join etc), I get no skips in films or TV shows. I'm perfectly happy with it, although I do make sure to check the videos play once I've dropped them on (and 8 out 10 of thousands of Divx/Xvid/Avis from loads of sources work on the box).
So 8/10 for me. I'll try to provide more info if you need.
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Would you mind sharing your config.xml located in Application Data/CorePlayer?
(...or specify your settings manually, but I think above would be easier)
I feel like I've tried all possible settings with no success. It would be greatly appreciated!
//Nik
I was also very excited when i finally got my Touch HD, espacially for watching TV series like you guys. 3 hours on the train is not bearable without some kind of entertainment . Well at first i also was very frustrated cause i am one of those people that instantly pick up jerky movement in a movie or when the sound lags just a few frames behind. Ever tried watching 4:3 content on a 16:9 tv, but stretched? Everytime i see something like that, i feel the urge to cry But there are many people that do not pick up such things.
Got a bit offtopic here, sorry. What i wanted to say is, i got accustomed to the slight jerky movement while watching something. The luxury of being able to pull out your phone, attach your headset and simply watch something while on the train, the bus or somewhere else, simply outweighs the not so fluent playback. As already mentioned the display is absolutely gorgeous. This is of course my oppinion. Using coreplayer on Topix 2.1.
Hey I've uploaded it (as a text file). For this, anything xvid, avi, divx, mpg etc. just seems to work (well, 9 out of 10 files, ranging from 174mb TV shows to 1gb movies).
Will be interested to know your thoughts or offer any further feedback,
Another thumbs up for Projections Video Encoding GUI - films I've converted are very smooth and audio and video are all in sync. A great app.
Try this program too. It'll help you find and open your video files with the HTC Album. Click on the link for more details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520604
Hi, I tried TCPMP and then Coreplayer to play standard resolution Divx files. With coreplayer I get very good results after increasing the buffer it uses for video and audio.
I'm using regular Divx or xvid movies, with MP3 audio. I'm using episodes from House M.D. for example, in high definition, and they look perfectly good. A movie like Terminator, with high movement, a lot of explosions, etc, is more difficult to handle. But overall I'm satisfied with what you get with the correct software and settings.
Unfortunately I have come to realize after trying several devices and hundreds of programs that Windows Mobile programming is still on it's infancy and 95% of the programmers cannot reach an aceptable level of ussability. I'm tired of big slow programs, that cannot display the simplest of 2D screen while in others you can pan or zoom a photo fast, or display video full screen at 20 - 25 fps. That shows you that the hardware is capable of fast processing and screen redraw, just most programs are too big and too slow.
Right, I do not want to spend anymore time trying to convert Movies from DVDs from my (small) collection, all of which I've already seen.
Can anyone recommend a legitimate movie download site that has the following:
Movies pre-formatted for the HD2 (Size and Format)
Good quality
Wide selection
Fast Downloads
I really liked the fact that you could pay for and download a wide selection of movies, pre-formatted for the Iphone (no joining VOBs, no out-of-sync audio, no already watched films) from Itunes.
Is there such a paid-for service available for the HD2 please?
In a word, no. In two - Not yet.
I know what you mean - But as I remember the iPhone iTunes selection was really restrictive on titles and quality...a bit like the Xbox selection currently available on Live.
However, I did really like the convenience...if not the prices!
Now I just use CorePlayer on the HD2 and it copes with 99% of my current rips in any format I have them - no converting needed.
Rumour has it that MS will be tying the WM7 platform into the Xbox gaming platform in the not-so-near (a year or 2?) future...in which case we will be undoubtedly get a portal from where we will download all our games, apps, video etc...like iTunes and the App store. Until that day, we on our own - which is fine by me since I hated iTunes and my iPhone!
Ah right. OK. Thanks. Well...that's that then I suppose.
Why convert? All my videos play fine ripped straight from the DVD on my TP2. Given that the Leo is more powerful, why would you convert a DVD that is already 480 lines of resolution (and you have 480 lines of resolution on your phone)?
I get inspired every once in a while to convert some full length movies, and put them on whatever phone I have at the time. I have had mixed success (mixed failures?) and would like to see what people are doing that actually works!
I grabbed a couple of Blockbuster on Demand Movies (The two free ones that are offerred to HD2 Owners, plus a couple I paid for. They were formatted horribly, sounds was just acceptable, and like others, I was hoping for the kind of product that the Transformer conversions were. No such luck. Blockbuster, being A MOVIE RETAILER, does not deem information such as "Screen Format" or "Sound Encoding" to be important enough to share with us. The 4 films I have viewed were "Widescreen Format" but, since 800x640 is not 16:9, you end up with two very noticable black bands top & bottom of the screen. Try showing off your HD2, only to have some wiseass 8 year old comment "How come it doesn't fill the screen?" t seems like the wiseass 8 year old has a better sense of what's right than the wizards at Blockbuster (Using "Roxio Cinema Now" technology)
Okay, so much for delivering content to the "Hardest working Screen in the Business" Who then has a tried and true method for converting Ripped DVDs into our beautiful media device? I don't have the patience to try this and that ripper, this and that converter, get the demos, look at 5 minutes of video, or have a huge watermark all while NOT getting a nice conversion to begin with. What I dream of is a 2-3 step process, not a 8-10 step process, that I have to lord over the whole time. I would GLADLY pay for a properly done ripper/converter so I could simply watch a movie on this device that was made to do just that.
I also would like to know.
Have you thought of using TCPMP? (project is somewhere in this site) I just copy over movies (Xvid AVIs) and they play just fine.
1clickDVDConverter
1ClickMovie
AnyDVD + Handbrake (Handbrake is free and excellent, but you need a proggy like Anydvd for...backing up your movies).
This link is at the top of this forum as a sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666971
DVD Fab platinum
this is the program that i use to put movies in my gadgets... I've put 10s movies in my htc hd2. try it, it has a very simple GUI, and the results is very nice too..
and just a little more detail, you can set up the resolutions output too so it will match the HD2 screen.
for the hd2, i converted my dvd to generic mp4.
danxtian said:
this is the program that i use to put movies in my gadgets... I've put 10s movies in my htc hd2. try it, it has a very simple GUI, and the results is very nice too..
and just a little more detail, you can set up the resolutions output too so it will match the HD2 screen.
for the hd2, i converted my dvd to generic mp4.
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Same here, using DVD Fab... It is FABulous to use.
i just use handbreak. it works really well. im currently using a profile i made that is bassicaly the iphone/ipodtouch preset with the resolution set to 800x48 for hi def and whatever the size is on lower def videos. i also have custom anamorphic which is set at
xxx = width if source file or 800 whichever is greater
800
800
i also have keep aspect ratio off.
on a test of the start trek blu ray i was able to full my screen with the people looking normal and not cutting anything off anything.
i have it on average bit rate of 640 with 2 pas and turbo 1st pass. with audio at 128. the movies look really good to me. Just for comparison the transformers movies weren't all that great looking on my pc at all. they look grainy and for that they are not really utilizing all the bandwidth they are consuming.
with these setting i am very happy of the video quality on my HD2 and the audio is also very good. I also didnt like the blockbuster offering. at these settings it is about 350mb per hour and thats including audio.
To make it with my same exact setting all you need to do is select the iPhone/iPod touch presert, make the resolution say 800x480 or whatever the max is allowed, just dont pass 800 x 480. the anamorphic is set to custom with
800
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800.
look at the screen shot.
Good luck
Well as noted above, I had been using Handbrake, but my ripping mates have come up with a program that already had the HTC HD2 in mind.
A freeware coverter with an actual preset specific for the HTC HD2 and it works just fine my friends.
The proggy is called: Xmedia Recode 2.2.3.2
http://www.freewarefiles.com/downloads_counter.php?programid=47942
Choose HTC model.
Choose the HD2
Choose your video prefs.
Much love.
Hi Devs and my friends...just thoughth of what would be the best HD video setting for galaxy S...is it,
1200X800 at mp4 format or what else.
Inviting your discussions on the same. Could you please come on guys and discuss on this and also the best video converter for Galaxy S
Thanks
There wouldn't seem to be much point in making it larger than 854*480p, given the screen size....
-bZj
The best setting as TESTED!
down8 said:
There wouldn't seem to be much point in making it larger than 854*480p, given the screen size....
-bZj
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Use AVS Video Converter (latest release)...
1. Select "To MP4"
2. make profile with 800*480...1500 bit [email protected] or 29.7 fps
Check...I am going to upload the entire ripped "Avatar Movie" @600mb piece for your ready ref...its HD while viewing with default video player of Galaxy S!
any question...please ask
I just set up handbrake with some iPad presets, and i think they would be perfect for the galaxy s as well. The iframe option is less than full 720p, but it should be mpre than good enough for displaying on the galaxy screen.
Unless encoding 1080p content, i don't see any point in encoding stuff for the galaxy s.
it reads just about anything.
suman_pal78 said:
Use AVS Video Converter (latest release)...
1. Select "To MP4"
2. make profile with 800*480...1500 bit [email protected] or 29.7 fps
Check...I am going to upload the entire ripped "Avatar Movie" @600mb piece for your ready ref...its HD while viewing with default video player of Galaxy S!
any question...please ask
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I've been using the same settings in Handbrake. Even with bit rates around 1800-2000bps it plays really well (colour me impressed). Have set audio to 128kbps AAC, as there isn't much point going above that with just headphones on.
I have to say having come across from the Milestone the screen on this thing is sumptuous. I'll never be able to go back to LCD.
Pika007 said:
Unless encoding 1080p content, i don't see any point in encoding stuff for the galaxy s.
it reads just about anything.
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Yeah, but obsessive-compulsive freaks like me (and I'm sure a few others here) just have to go for the optimal experience. Considering this thing is such a monster I think it does it justice to see what it's capable of.
Good point, but you do want to transcode blu rays. Im not sure how though.
Unimaginative said:
Have set audio to 128kbps AAC
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Can you really tell the difference between 128 and 96? I tried but couldn't.
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Can you really tell the difference between 128 and 96? I tried but couldn't.
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Nah. I meant anything above 128kbps, sorry. On my Milestone I used to use 96kbps but since the SGS is such a beast I figured 'what the hell?'
I have spent time on this, trying many ways as I want a great picture, so on any 1080p and 720p films I go for XMedia Recode/custom/mp4 h264/high/4.1/2 pass at 2000 bit/deblocking low/1280 by 720/mp3 192...I need this as I use sure headphones and they need good input/it works out at around 1gig or just under per hour you do, yes its lots of space but again there is new memory cards on the way (talk of tosh having made a 120gig nand chip) picture is great and its future proof for other mobiles in future as I dont want to have to do them again anytime soon, also on this setting it removes all black bars when the phone plays it (they remain if you watch on tv) but I also guess there is better ways but I just want good picture, and I did read there is problem with how our phone reads blacks, it uses the graphic chip which at the moment has problems understanding shades of black in lower than hd movies, this in turn leads to blocking but only in dark films, one guy found a way to pass this and says picture is great and blocking is almost gone in good rips but he did not state how to do this, so guess rest of us need someone or samsung to fix this, maybe on their first firmware download?
I don't see a point to re-encode movies if SGS reads every single one...
Dexter666 said:
I don't see a point to re-encode movies if SGS reads every single one...
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Because there are optimal settings for best quality/clarity.
we suffer from a cap of 4gb, no files bigger than that because of fat32 not letting us move bigger movie files, 720p movies sit around 6 7 8 gigs and 1080p around 10 12 13...some even more.
I just download 720p rips of tv episodes, anime and sports and drop the mkv directly into there.
If it is a movie and its below 4gb 720p i drop the mkv directly in there
If its a movie bigger i just use the hd encoder found here on xda and just do standard 800*480 with hd input.
Of if the movie has a 480 version ... ill grab that instead.
But most of the times i just drop the mkv into there ... mainly movies with subtitles i use the hd encoder.
Is it possible to put ext2 on the microsd card to get around the 4GB limit?
It is a Linux phone, after all. It should be able to handle it.
Has any body tried to load a movie on there's yet?
I tried last night and because the file was like 5 gig it wouldn't let me copy to either the phone or the sd card.
Any body else got any input?
The filesystem is limited to 4gb files. I did try two videos, both 720p mkvs, worked flawlessly, if a little fuzzy. I am guessing its the rescaling effect.
Haven't tried 1080p as I don't see the point, but that's just me (1024x600 screen).
Gonna convert some vids to the native res and see how they look.
Yeah - Thats pretty much what I thought just wanted to double check. All my 720 films are over 4 gig
What about yours?
Have you converted and compressed them to make them smaller? If so which programme did you use?
Thanks in advance
720p TV programs are about 1.4GB. Samsung isn't limiting you, the FAT filesystem is limiting you.
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720p TV programs are about 1.4GB. Samsung isn't limiting you, the FAT filesystem is limiting you.
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Oh yeah - silly me,
Still though its not ideal
I put a couple of tv shows on there (South Park, Walking Dead, Ugly Americans). Max size was like 2.2GB.
I am converting them now to 1024x600 (should be 1024x576, but I figured the ever so slight difference should be ok)
However, I am at work now so I'll have to wait for a bit before I can check.
What programme do you use?
Try MKV2VOB. IT will change the files to AVI if you wish and maintain quality (or compress) as you wish. It also has within settings the ability to break up the files so that they don't exceed 4gbs for FAT32 formatted drives.... (Like what the PS3 needs )
eskasi said:
Try MKV2VOB. IT will change the files to AVI if you wish and maintain quality (or compress) as you wish. It also has within settings the ability to break up the files so that they don't exceed 4gbs for FAT32 formatted drives.... (Like what the PS3 needs )
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Excellent. gonna give this a try when I get home.
I use mediacoder, works rather well for me, probably also has some setting to break the files up.
I got impatient, so I converted one file, South Park, from 720p mkv to 600p mp4, variable bitrate quality 50, came in at 61mb (lol) and yeah, sftp'd that sucker down, stuck it on and I have to say, looks good.
I am now gonna try something less easy (Walking Dead). It comes in to almost 600mb (from 2.2gb) so lets see how that looks. Will take a bit to d/l though.
Or I could just wait to get home.....but it's not like I have to watch the download take place.
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I use mediacoder, works rather well for me, probably also has some setting to break the files up.
I got impatient, so I converted one file, South Park, from 720p mkv to 600p mp4, variable bitrate quality 50, came in at 61mb (lol) and yeah, sftp'd that sucker down, stuck it on and I have to say, looks good.
I am now gonna try something less easy (Walking Dead). It comes in to almost 600mb (from 2.2gb) so lets see how that looks. Will take a bit to d/l though.
Or I could just wait to get home.....but it's not like I have to watch the download take place.
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Thanks for your help,
Im gonna do abit of downloading an covering later on to see what gets the best results. I think Samsung should have brought there own converter out specifically for the tab that would have been nice.
Wow south park looks good at 61 mb :O
I think you should upload it and send me a pm with a link so I can test
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Thanks for your help,
Im gonna do abit of downloading an covering later on to see what gets the best results. I think Samsung should have brought there own converter out specifically for the tab that would have been nice.
Wow south park looks good at 61 mb :O
I think you should upload it and send me a pm with a link so I can test
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Test away. (you got PM)
Thanks dude,
The video looks nice and sharp especially at 60mb..
Id say the only thing I noticed was the audio seems abit quiet.
mklass said:
Thanks dude,
The video looks nice and sharp especially at 60mb..
Id say the only thing I noticed was the audio seems abit quiet.
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Yeah, the original was ac3. It always is a bit soft to allow for dynamic range. I will make a note to bump up the gain for my future encodes.
Come on kids. The tab has a screen suited for 480p. Anything higher than 600 pixels will simply be bigger than the screen.
When you use the HDMI dock, however, it should play xvid @1080p on your tv.
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Come on kids. The tab has a screen suited for 480p. Anything higher than 600 pixels will simply be bigger than the screen.
When you use the HDMI dock, however, it should play xvid @1080p on your tv.
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480 <- 600 -> 720
Either will get scaled (up or down). Also cool how they are both the same distance from each other (120 lines).
Personally, I'd rather have MORE info and scale it down than less and scale it up.
Plus I also said that 1080p is massive overkill. 720p works nicely, though reformatted for 600p is smoother (less ghosting of movement to my eyes).
YMMV
so is AC3 working fine, I dont want to recode all the TV programmes. If it can play mkv 720p AC3 then Im happy. I know up until recently it couldnt do mult-channel audio, wether it be 720p or 1080p
yes, ac3 works fine for me.
there should be an easier solution to watch 720p movies. Is it not possible to simply split the movie in 2 parts? There should be some mkv-split program out there, that does not need to recode, just create new headers...
(so far I am watching tv shows, and those files are 1gb)
Mkvtoolnix will do it in seconds on windows.
I downloaded a 7120p and 1080p trailer and tested and it workd awesome, except for the aspect ration wasent the best. I run tvshows and it works like a charm