Rogers Samsung Focus Mango Watch ! - Focus General

I thought Mango was coming September 1. Haven't seen it yet. Will the Samsung Rogers Focus get an official release ? If yes please post here soon as you see availability.

Rumors are we will get to eat the fresh mangoes starting from Sept 15.
http://www.winrumors.com/windows-phone-7-5-mango-update-arriving-on-september-15/
Keep your finger crossed.
The problem is with the f*&@* carriers. I haven't got the 7392 update on my AT&T.

andreiuc said:
Rumors are we will get to eat the fresh mangoes starting from Sept 15.
http://www.winrumors.com/windows-phone-7-5-mango-update-arriving-on-september-15/
Keep your finger crossed.
The problem is with the f*&@* carriers. I haven't got the 7392 update on my AT&T.
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Not sure who said this, but in my internet travels I saw something like this.. first there was Blackberry, then Apple... now Mango !
Mmmmm...mmmmm Mangos are delicious !

ATT sucks on pushing the updates. I did not received 7092 either. I went straight to the betas and now I am running 7720, none of that from ATT. I guess ther Official from ATT may com eway after Sept 15.

jbedoya said:
ATT sucks on pushing the updates. I did not received 7092 either. I went straight to the betas and now I am running 7720, none of that from ATT. I guess ther Official from ATT may com eway after Sept 15.
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You dont need 7092 to go to mango (and if I recall, Mango will have 7092 in it)

Well September 15th is come and gone... lol.. any sign of Mango out there for Rogers network ?

According to the person I spoke too at Rogers they haven't received the firmware from Samsung yet. It could still be a while.

fenrir26 said:
According to the person I spoke too at Rogers they haven't received the firmware from Samsung yet. It could still be a while.
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I've "heard rumours" that Mango will be rolled out first week of October. Could it be that Mango will not need much carrier testing? The basic cell and data funtion isn't changing much, it's really features on the handset itself.

Hopefully Rogers won't be too far behind ATT...
http://www.businessinsider.com/windows-phone-mango-release-date-2011-9
"Mango, which includes a variety of great new features, will begin rolling out to AT&T Windows Phones on September 27th, Windows Phone Central reports."
"...and Samsung Focus (version 1.3) will be the first to get the update, "

Yes... makes me want to re-flash the phone to AT&T image !
Here is another story on the topic...
http://m.wpcentral.com/ATT-begins-mango-update-program-september-27th-full-details
And yes... let's hope that Rogers is not too far behind. I would think that Microsoft is positioning this to be ready well before Apple's iPhone5 launch. Let the games begin !

Im definitely highly excited for mango. More so than i was for froyo and gingerbread for android. And im even more excited to get my hands on the new samsung focus s

And it's confirmed... Apple will be showing the iPhone5 the first week of October with availability in USA 2 weeks later.
What's one to do... eat forbidden fruit or eat Mangos

PaullikesWINMO said:
And it's confirmed... Apple will be showing the iPhone5 the first week of October with availability in USA 2 weeks later.
What's one to do... eat forbidden fruit or eat Mangos
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Should be an easy call for you, as from your posts I see you have a Focus:
Free software with improvements vs shell out (at least) twice the price for Focus for the I_will _have_next_year_an_obsolete_Phone. Gimme 5... (partial pun intended)

hope mango for rogers will be rolling out with the rest

Have Mango, is absolutely awesome. Not sure if Rogers will roll out visual voicemail.

EnderPsp said:
Should be an easy call for you, as from your posts I see you have a Focus:
Free software with improvements vs shell out (at least) twice the price for Focus for the I_will _have_next_year_an_obsolete_Phone. Gimme 5... (partial pun intended)
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Oh ya.... I'll be eating Mangos since I am a Focus owner. I was wondering out loud about decisions that others may need to make.

And no Mangos for me to eat this morning. Sounds the same for AT&T users in the USA. I think I'm going back to my black rotary phone from 1970. Then there is no disappointments. I wonder when they came out with push button technology if there was this much hype then delay ?

Well, on the 'plus' side, the marketplace has been down since last nite, which could be a good sign that they are prepping for the update...

Well looks like we may have missed the boat...
I just shot off a tweet to @RogersHelp on twitter asking if they are rolling out Mango today... (September 27th)
I was shocked to receive this response...
"We need the manufacturer to first make it available to us for testing."
Can anyone confirm they are that behind????

well, I just got my first update with my new Focus that I bought just yesterday..
Its from Feb 2011. An update to enable better updates.. I can only hope this is a precursor to 7.5 coming in.. But Zune seems to have frozen and the phone is back in its regular state, tho it did default back to blue for some reason..
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ok, i'm pissed, it erased all my data, and now it doesn't connect with zune..
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managed to format the phone, reinstalling the 'windows phone update, february 2011'... fingers crossed..

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Update for Canada Today (Aug 8th)?

SonyEricssonCA posted the following on Twitter about 15 hours ago...
"Free software upgrade for the Xperia X10. Get more details here: http://bit.ly/b9HT0A"
But I can't see anything from that link, SEUS, OTA or PC Companion. Anyone else seeing anything?
its probably the update to 026....as usual, Canada always seems to be in back burner for these folks when rolling out updates.
I checked last night after reading that twitter post both OTA and SEUS, no update available. Still running on R2BA020! I assume that post was to remind newer X10 customers they should update that horrible 014 firmware.
*also today is August 6th not the 8th man
Posted a few minutes ago:
SonyEricssonCA
Yesterday’s tweet about the software upgrade was just a reminder for those who haven’t yet updated.
Was the update from the future? In the future I have 2.2 on my x10 and no Rogers. dare to dream.
Darn. Got excited for nothing.
Dammit
Who knows, maybe Rogers will release 2.1 before anyone else does
Doesn't hurt to dream....
You just wait... "The 2.1 update for Canada has been pushed back to Q4 of 2012"
The SE CEO's will be sitting in a room going "Who else do we have left to push 2.1 to? Canada? Those guys are still around? Do they get internet in their igloos?"
till 2012!?!?!? god damm!!!
LOL all.
That's why I rooted. Tired of waiting for Rogers to push out their updates weeks after everyone else.
BTW: R2BA026 is wonderful!
If you want a picture with 2.1 set to be release oct and above in a japanese presentation i can upload it. I am sick of people expect 2.1 tomorrow because they didn't do the researches.
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sure, upload it
How is this build wonderful? What makes it good? I cannot see any difference between this and the one before. Am i missing something?
Has it improved the batter life? Has it dealt with the low volume on the earpiece?
With the Galaxy S listing for $499.99 CDN, Rogers had better get on SE for the real update, or expect a price cut on the X10.
As much as I dislike the Galaxy S' exterior design, the specs (and OS) are killer.
wrongfeifong said:
If you want a picture with 2.1 set to be release oct and above in a japanese presentation i can upload it. I am sick of people expect 2.1 tomorrow because they didn't do the researches.
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I'm curious. How recently did the presentation take place? The original plan was for 2.1 in Q4 but it was pushed ahead to Q3 in June/July. Is there a chance the presentation happened before or after the changed schedule?
Edit: Yep, September "onwards" for the civilized world and late Q3-early Q4 onwards for the US. Damn those progressive rollouts, always confusing stuff.
Lots of rumours flying around that the X10 is about to land on AT&T in the US...I can't imagine them actually launching this premium phone with 1.6 in the US especially after all the recent updates to 2.2 for all the highend Android devices (less the Galaxy line). SE would have to be out of their minds to pull a stunt like that. Here's hoping they aren't THAT incompetent and just finalizing a 2.1 release ready for the launch of the X10 on AT&T in the coming weeks.
I want my update now... I can't believe I am still using android 1.6!!!
No one has actually answered my questions. Whats so special about this new software update? I dont see any difference at all. Its still 1.6. No improvement on battery life and no real update worth all this hype.
What is it really?
alitech said:
No one has actually answered my questions. Whats so special about this new software update? I dont see any difference at all. Its still 1.6. No improvement on battery life and no real update worth all this hype.
What is it really?
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faster performance?
Having recently come from the Nexus One & Froyo I must say over all I'm liking the X10 a lot better. Sure it's 1.6 but I think it's fine compared to 2.2 which I found to be overall not that great. The grass is always greener on the other side I guess, but having come from the other side IMO the X10 isn't missing much.

Today is September 23, no Froyo for Samsung galaxy s?

Samsung promised that today should upgrade SGS to Froyo, but nothing??
ROFLMAO!!
Nobody promised anything
No. Not today.
It's better that way instead of another crappy firmware and this time official. They will go to hell if they do that
Samsung just announced that there will be no froyo for galaxy s. Are you happy now
Hi vlad,
As reported in several other topics, September 23 was less than a rumour, Samsung never said officially that this was "Froyo day".
AFAIK what we know by now is that T-Mobile branded SGS should be upgrade before the end of the month (which could mean even on 09/30), and it looks like that no brand SGS won't be upgraded before mid october.
Again, what we are talking about are just rumours, there's no official date from sammy.
Still I'd rather wait few days more and get a decent firmware.
edit: please try to make a search next time, before posting.
totally useless to open a topic about something that not happened,
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So when will update? later this month? or end of October as Samsung Spain said ?
vlad88 said:
So when will update? later this month? or end of October as Samsung Spain said ?
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I do not know. No. Yes.
Lets just wait for it when it comes. Lets not speculate. Let Samsung build a decent firmware with all the important fix especially to enable JIT. I am happy with JPH for now.
not in the development child forum! dewdoodude.
The only official statements from Samsung (in facebook) is End of September for UK, End of October for Spain, India,... T-Mobile also stated End of September for their clients...
Saw some statements from users that contacted their operator and in some cases it will be available this week....
Definitelly it will not be released Worldwide at the same time. Patience.
Prankey said:
Lets just wait for it when it comes. Lets not speculate. Let Samsung build a decent firmware with all the important fix especially to enable JIT. I am happy with JPH for now.
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+1 Agree. I'm Still with the official JM2 and I'm not in a hurry to get Froyo unless it fixes the pending issues.
(I hope this is not the same as Micro$oft and it's Windows Vista. )
The morale of the story is to be happy with what you have (eclair) and don't wait for froyo.
Otherwise buy some other phone which already has froyo.
Keep waiting... Maybe we will get froyo during christmas. Presents from Samsung.
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For waiting the official froyo, i just flash the jm8 with rom tatayuma....
Even with the 'end of September' comment they still didn't say which year.
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Even with the 'end of September' comment they still didn't say which year.
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Haha Verry funny, maybe 2012 when at the end of the world
Quoted from Samsung Mobile Singapore Facebook:
Hi Muhd, our local R&D team have not passed the Froyo software as yet. We are trying to rush HQ to send us the new software for testing. Realistically, we would expect some delay with this week being the Korean Thanksgiving holiday week. We will keep everyone posted on the timeline as soon as we get confirmation.
Hi Weijian, we would love to but these are all controlled by our HQ in Korea. This week being Korean Thanksgiving holiday week does not help. The current Froyo software being tested locally is not satisfactory so there is a good chance the official release to end consumer will be in Oct.
The Koreans are in holiday. Not froyo day apparently.
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Haha Verry funny, maybe 2012 when at the end of the world
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Hehe, there are going to be a large number of disappointed loonies when that doesn't happen ....oh wait

latest from Dell about o2: mid december!

Latest from [email protected]:
'We’re continuing to work with O2 to deliver the update, and expect this to start in mid-December #dellstreak'
Seriously!!!.what the hell!!...
@dell: Thanks but no thanks!!!
@djsteve: Thanks a lot!!..he he...maybe ill strt my preparation!!
Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
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whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Well the update has been released for unlocked phones, so I don't fault Dell for this. I place the blame on [email protected] least Dell was nice & smart enough to give you guys a status on the update.
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I Blame Dell, I wonder how many have got the offical update notification ??
Very few would be my guess, I'm a UK unlocked Streak owner & still no update for me.
I have asked Stephen twice via twitter about it but he doesn't bother to respond
superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.
lol...i wasnt talking abt getting rid of the streak!!...and probably am as 'eccentric a tabletphone user' as you are..
i was talking abt waiting for dell/o2 to give me wat I want..
but as it turns out...i am staying well inside the room and waiting for the official thing to come out...whenever it does..
superutp said:
whether it is o2 or dell to be blamed..the end result is the same...i havent got the update..!!..so it time to move on I guess..
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Indeed, I feel your pain. I mean what a terrible tragedy, having to wait almost a full month before a slightly updated operating system for your mobile phone becomes available. Nobody should have to bear such a tragic burden in their life. Have you asked whether the European Commission on Human Rights will take your case up?
On the other hand, you could just go to Argos and buy one - they are advertising that their Streaks come with 2.2.
@philip...ha ha I am sure you are being sarcastic there...
no thanks but Ill stick to my current o2 locked streak...cause currenly having 2.1 instead of 2.2 doesnt really make a big difference to my existance on earth...
it's just the 'customer unawareness' of dell/o2 which bothers me...nuthin else..
Dell, carriers?
If Dell "officially" releases the update, then the carriers pack their crap onto the update, does Dell have to check it for compatibility before the carriers sign off on it? Or do the carriers send their crap to Dell, dell packages it into their OS, then tests it, and then the carriers sign off on it?
God knows I wouldn't defend the manufacturer or the carrier, but does anyone know the procedure?
THIS is a glaring example of why carriers need to get the $*#&% out of the hardware/software side of the wireless phone business, and become pipes.
(In the USA) it use to be, you provide the phone, we provide the dial tone.
Now, I'm not naive enough to know why the carriers want to stay in the hardware
side of the business, but, as phones, software evolve, they need to seriously consider changing (in the USA) their business model.
At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
f**k the dell and o2 upgrading to 2.2 with dj steve had enough with their sh*t
we the first person to buy these f*cking device in uk and we are getting at last seriously love the device but dell a complete dirt company to deal with
To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
I'm currently using 2.1 with a mildly tweaked build.prop & ADW Launcher and other than the lack of flash it isn't lacking much.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
Dell are fixing some of the bugs (hopefully more than some) in the initial 00 released roms..
you wouldn't want them to send the o2 ones out with something that stopped you watching iplayer would you?
Same here stateside...would rather wait until it is RIGHT...before updating.
When I was younger, as soon as a point release would come out, I'd jump on it.
Not so much anymore. I want stable.
I use to go bleeding edge on hardware for the PC, tweaking and tweaking to get the performance, and then living with unstable systems.
Last pc I built replaced one that I built and was stable for over six years, running 24/7. The one I built, should be as stable for another six.
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To be fair, 02 added very little bloat to the Streak. Either 1.6 or 2.2. I personally would rather wait a couple of weeks for them to sort out the bugs in the thus far released 2.2 builds before it hits O2.
Maybe I'm just more chilled as I'm getting older but I don't really see that the sky is falling down just because I have to wait a few days more for a phone firmware update.
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Official update
Hi everybody,
There is a link that gives you all the countries who are able to download the official update; go check on streaksmart and you will see a link for unlocked models; So I did and I am on froyo with my unlocked streak; I would say just one thing don't hesitate, it is official but happens manually...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more
The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
It is the official update
Troute said:
The 'official' update was withdrawn until some bug fixes are done, anything you download just now will be unofficial and buggy.
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You know,before saying it isn't official, go check the page by yourself; its the official page; I am not the only one who has download it and still I have no issues at all..so stop saying it is not OFFICIAL and go check by yourself
"I am not the only one who has download it"
thats it! the official update ist ota!
chris
Please, go check and read this page, you will be abble to download it on your streak,...
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/11/...ntly-upgrade-to-official-android-22.html#more
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At least DELL UK sell accessories for the streak........we have nothing in Australia
Not even a charger!!!
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which power plug do you use there?

Was T-Mobile UK Froyo OFFICIAL relased OTA/Kies Galaxy S?

OTA
Here is the UK guys chatting about it:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discus...eit.offset=300
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Samsung Galaxy S 2.2 update
Posted: 2 days ago
Hi folks
Thanks a lot for all your patience regarding the Galaxy S froyo update.
Our handset team have been working closely with Samsung regarding this update and future updates and would like to share their news with you.
Our goal is to make the update process smoother and we are working to become the only mobile operator offering FOTA (Firmware over the Air) updates for the Samsung product range. The aim was and still is to have the FOTA update available at some point today. If for reasons outwith our control we are unable to have a FOTA update process fully functioning by close of play today, then we will make the update available for download via Samsung KIES tomorrow (Dec 1st)
Thanks again for all the feedback you've given us through our forums.
Cheers
Barry
T-Mobile forum team
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Found the above here:
http://support.t-mobile.co.uk/discu...157760012c52e07803002f32&messageit.offset=280
Anyone know anything about this?
The post is about how they promised it 11/30, then 12/1, and it still isn't out. Apparently it will come out next week, so people fed up with t-mo and Samsung are just downloading it off XDA.
entropism said:
The post is about how they promised it 11/30, then 12/1, and it still isn't out. Apparently it will come out next week, so people fed up with t-mo and Samsung are just downloading it off XDA.
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Yeah. Sorry...I wasn't done updating. Take a look.
If anyone has it through Kies...or knows someone that does....let us know.
I'm starting to think that poory written bs about 2011 might not be bs at all.....samsung really needs to get there crap together
Can't find any data on it.
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I'm starting to think that poory written bs about 2011 might not be bs at all.....samsung really needs to get there crap together
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Just so you know we haven't gotten the update on the Epic due to "administrative" issues between Sprint and Google.
I was talking with someone to day and found out its something dealing with interfering with Sprint voice packages; seeing as you can call for free through google now.. Sprint doesn't like that too much..

Offical DVP manago release on the 20th

http://wmpoweruser.com/dell-venue-pro-mango-september-20/
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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i wonder if there will be anything different from the RTM? better auto settings for the camera i hope
Do you have to revert back to nodo or can you update from mango beta 2
I guess there will be new version of EM, as new version of firmware will be on the 7720.68 update.
See the picture from the link below:
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/pcw/docs/475/412/html/42.jpg.html
Then we may have to figure out the registry and those dlls again.......
According to the Japanese media, typing in other languages, other than those 5, on the keypad should be supported.
Good news Dell Venue Pro users! Mango is coming officially on the Dell Venue Pro.
Dell has insisted, much like other Microsoft OEMs, that the Mango OS will be pushed out to current devices on September 20. Usually, Dell has a pretty good track record of releasing updates on Tuesdays (Nodo, firmware, Microsoft Security update). Combined with the other musings about Windows Phone Mango updates coming in mid September , the rumored release date gains some face validity. But to be safe, put the release date in the rumor folder because delays do happen
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I don't really get this article. In typical headline-grabbing style WMPU position this article it as fact, without providing any offical source or quote, but then go on to caveat it up to the hilt to cover their back. And typically this has been re-quoted all over the web without so much as a question. Yet up to this point many were saying that existing DVPs wouldn't get an official update. Where is the evidence that Dell have insisted this is true or official? Is it something the rep said in the video?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1260411
that post makes it pretty clear that dell is going to do an update.
phone from dell with mango and new firmware.
True, but that's a "brand new" phone. But still doesn't answer why WMPU (and everyone else who jumped on their bandwagon) are treating it as indisputable fact when, as far as I can see, in typical blog style, they've not backed it up with any source or quote.
Still, I guess we've not long to wait and find out!
Probably because the author knows people at Dell:
http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...-pro-firmware-revision-coming-next-month.aspx
I'd guess Dell probably aren't allowed to announce a date until Microsoft officially launches Mango. There is a huge Microsoft conference happening at the moment (http://www.buildwindows.com/). Would be very surprised if Mango was not 'launched' officially during the conference.
20th September is the first Tuesday after the conference ends, so it's a plausible date.
Ah, that explains it then. Apologies all round for being such a sceptic!
Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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Thanks - although I have no idea if the author has heard a whisper from Dell or is just taking an educated guess.
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column A and column B
yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
domineus said:
column A and column B
yes it was rumored from a mutual contact that the dvp update would be next week. But I also know that whenever dates are given with dell, well...there are delays...(last f/w update for instance was delayed by a week as was the security update, and for that matter nodo was delayed so so many times).
I suggested to readers that delays do happen, like with any software/firmware update due to carrier testing or microsoft. With the previous f/w update, dell had the intent of releasing it the same week as reported, but in this case Microsoft waited to do a dual update (hd7 and venue pro updating) which is at their discretion.
Whether or not Microsoft will do that again is anyone's guess. That's why I recommended that
1. It is a rumored release date (but the contact is extremely reliable with his info given)
2. delays happen
Nothing major if it does happen. This is dell afterall...they have a record with delays...it wasn't super sensational to suggest that...
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is whenyou see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
The circumstances for the release of mango is different than with Seven and NoDo.
With seven, it was all about timing. Small market release upfront, followed by reaction plan and response.
Nodo was an updat, nothing more.
Mango is a new device focused release. Its step 2 in the MS mobile plan.It released to Operators several weeks ago. What was released back in july is what youll see next week. Anything new since the RTM will be this years nodo. Historically, new OS's have rarely updated near launch date, the focus instead on the new device release. If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them. But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
From someone who has the mango rtm already, but no longer uses the vp as my primary device, i can say i will not move back to the device as my primary device. Its slow and bulky compared to many of the android devices. I do however hold great hope for windows phone and will buy a new device when i see 4g, dual core, and wifi integrated calling. I believe windows phone is better than android. It just doesnt have all the cookies yet.
With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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I would 'suggest' the only sure date for the mango release is when you see 'update complete' on your device. Until then, blah blah blah.
If MS/Dell have said the 20th, then hoorah for them.
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But i do not recall seeing anything official from them....excluding that twitter guy.
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With the number of contacts i have at ms, i 'suspect' the release will be within the next 2weeks. But i said that back in June, and nothing has changed.
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That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
Ineedtoys said:
That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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i can vouch for the information. The person gave me a unit to personally test and write about. I'm pretty sure that's enough to vouch for their reputation.
But realistically, mobile sites are dicy on rumor mill, but that doesn't stop reporting at all. And sadly on more than one occasion, several sites haven't fact checked a rumor before it ran out of commotion (anyone remember the initial HD3 specs fiasco?)
I can understand your skepticism, but that's also why I indicated that delays happen and things get pushed back. Realistically anytime there is a date given by any dev, oem, or company, it always never EVER delivers on that promised date.
But it is news that many want to know about. And the source is extremely RELIABLE and about as official it is going to get regarding dell's restructuring of their mobile division.
You don't have to trust the date, in fact I suggest not to do so. But given the indication that mango is coming in that timeframe (middle of september) clarifies the position that the rumored release date gains more credibility. Also, since TMO gets a bevy of updates on Tuesday for windows phone camp (nodo, security, firmware), Tuesday at least is a relatively big day for tmo as far as pushing out updates are concerned.
That was the point of the article. Seriously no need to overanalyze it, it will make you old and gray =P
Ineedtoys said:
That was my point and why I took issue with wording of the article. A prime site like WMPU should be very careful of giving the impression that they have seen an official statement committing to a date when all they have is rumour and hearsay (no matter how trusted the source).
Also, won't Dell (and other OEMs) need to build and test their proprietary hardware drivers (e.g. for the compass) before they roll the upgrade out to their devices? Or will have these been completed and submitted back to MS in time for the 'launch'?
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Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
alodar1 said:
Agreeing with dom on this. Youll get old and gray reading digital papparrazzi. Know that the first time dell saw mango was NOT at the rtm date. They've had the bits for several months. They were test partners along with the other OEMs for several months. Fijal bits have been in their hands for 6-8 weeks and they have been privvy to prelim builds for several weeks before that. Test modes and package delivery have been their focus for several weeks now since changes to the packages must go through ms, not dell. Dell cannot add anything post handoff.
There is no question the release is soon. My only question is where it will fall in relationship to the new device release. If its before the release, then soon is soon. If its after, then soon could bè fall...and that lsts until december
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I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
jessej said:
Hey Dom and everyone,
I just thought that I would chime in a little with this one. The rumored date of September 20 was the latest officially announced date given to OEMs (Dell in this case) from Microsoft at the time this article was written. Joe Belfiore of Microsoft has obviously gone on record as saying that Mango will now officially happen in the fall, meaning on or after September 23. Dell has finished their part of Mango and Microsoft is again stuck holding the ball in their court. Let's just hope history repeats itself on this one. Announced date + 1 week = Actual Date???? I will keep my ears pressed to the walls for this one and update if I hear anything new.
The "other" part of this rumor came true, please look at this thread title (Just received a replacement DVP and it's got Mango on it!!)
Dell was ready to ship some of their devices 1 week after the article was written. They ship device overnight and the thread was created on September 13.
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same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
domineus said:
same thing happened with the tmo update microsoft delayed it for a week for no earthly reason
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for no earthly reason that you know of....
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domineus said:
I wouldn't expect a new dell wp7 device any time soon =(
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
alodar1 said:
for no earthly reason that you know of....
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I didn't mean a new VP, I meant new mango devices in general......rarely are new OS's first distributed as an upgrade to existing devices. Usually new devices get it first...
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In the US at least only at&t has announced new hardware and they have committed to a fast update rollout so it would seem there shouldnt really be a delay due to new hardware.
its the 20th! cant wait if this is true!

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