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Yes, I read the other threads out there but no true answer.
I have a ton of apps in my auto-end list... I've heard two things, keep em on there and let them kill them but I also heard for Android 2.2 and above it actually hurts the battery life because it takes more juice to restart the app after being killed then actually leave it running. Any insight on this at all? I currently have every app that isn't a widget on the auto-end list and would like to know if I should stick to this or get them off there?
I added and removed stuff on the auto end list and it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. I started to "freeze" apps from starting by using Titanium Backup. I know it costs a couple bucks but whenever I change ROMS, it reinstalls all my apps that I had downloaded. There's apps like weather service and news, DLNA, and a few others that I don't use but when I look at running apps they are running. Hope this helps.
cwburns32 said:
Yes, I read the other threads out there but no true answer.
I have a ton of apps in my auto-end list... I've heard two things, keep em on there and let them kill them but I also heard for Android 2.2 and above it actually hurts the battery life because it takes more juice to restart the app after being killed then actually leave it running. Any insight on this at all? I currently have every app that isn't a widget on the auto-end list and would like to know if I should stick to this or get them off there?
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I use Gemini App Manager to alter the auto-start conditions for every app. Apps don't start until I start them. Isn't a noticeable difference between startup times for me. Once they are running, I let them run or quit on exit if the option is there.
Phoneguy589 said:
I added and removed stuff on the auto end list and it doesn't seem to make a difference to me. I started to "freeze" apps from starting by using Titanium Backup. I know it costs a couple bucks but whenever I change ROMS, it reinstalls all my apps that I had downloaded. There's apps like weather service and news, DLNA, and a few others that I don't use but when I look at running apps they are running. Hope this helps.
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I have TiBu and do freeze apps I don't use but I'm talking like the Market staying open after you shut off the screen or the messaging app, etc. Not apps I don't use, I'm actually talking about apps I use, apps I don't use are already frozen.
I wouldn't have anything on auto-end list... It basically force closes the app every time you exit out of it then, which is a big no-no.
The way I see it, if an app is using battery in the background, it needs to do it and shouldn't be closed. If it doesn't need to use any battery or processing power, then it won't even if the task manager SAYS it's still running (it's really minimal).
Task killers are probably only useful to kill apps that are going haywire and running when they shouldn't be...In which case, reinstall or just don't use that app.
But I say, don't put anything on auto end. If you are worried about losing battery, lemme tell you I get two days of battery life and I don't do even have a task manager. I just use setcpu to underclock while the screen is off/while I'm sleeping/etc.
I wondered about this too, and while some people still claim to get better battery life with one, I always see articles like this: http://androinica.com/2010/05/googl...-imply-task-killermanager-apps-are-pointless/ that tell me you should never use one ever.
You don’t need to kill an app just because a task manager says it’s running. Android automatically closes apps if the phone requires RAM or if that app remains inactive too long.
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There's also this quote that seems to argue that it's more harmful:
Applications may seem present to the user without an actual process currently running the app; multiple applications may share processes, or one application may make use of multiple processes depending on its needs; the process(es) of an application may be kept around by Android even when that application is not actively doing something.
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I keep something around to easily pick out running apps to force close if they're borking out on me, but I don't have any auto-kill or kill all running apps with a whitelist or anything.
I looked at my free RAM and out of 1 GB I only have around 350 mb free!
That and I disabled ALL widgets!
I looked at running apps with advanced task manager and there is all of this crapware like Pulse etc running. I cleared memory and got some back but not much. As soon as I turn the tab back on all of the junk comes back and drains my battery 10% overnight with wifi OFF on a wifi only tab.
It is ridiculous to only have less than half of my RAM available. On my phone I lost half of that to bloat too. I bet if this tab had 2GB of RAM they would fill 1.75 GB with crap.
What gives? Why do they insist on doing this and not letting ME choose what I want running on MY tablet? Can I get rid of or freeze all of this junk?
They are just cached and automatically freed up when an application needs more RAM. But I do agree that Andriod does a very aggressive caching even on apps never used. Why not remove it with TB?
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
TarjeiB said:
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
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+ 1 on this. It's seriously easy to get a bit neurotic about system resources. If your tab is running fine just enjoy it and don't sweat the numbers.
TarjeiB said:
Free ram has no purpose. It will take and free RAM as it sees fit. If you force it to use less ran, it will run slower. Let it manage the ram itself, this is how Unix has worked since the start and it's working perfectly fine.
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Yeah but I don't need Pulse, buddies now, family locator, Samsung game hub blah blah running and eating up CPU and battery either (as well as internal flash memory). I will never use that crap so I might as well get it gone. I am not sure why it opens stuff up that I never use or never have.
Is there a list somewhere on what can be nixed and what can't?
I would like to bring this thread up again.
I do have the same problem as DaveC1964.
All I want is a "clean looking" tablet without Google+, Pulse, SocialHub,GameHub etc.
I also hate that those apps connect to the web. I know you can disable that, but I want them gone.
I only use the internet browser, youtube and pdf app.
How do I uninstall those preinstalled annoyences?
Is there a way to do this without a custom ROM?
Thank you
you'll need to root your tab and use titanium back to remove the bloatware. be careful with what you remove though as it may affect other apps. always make a backup.
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Best you initially just freeze the offending apps with Titanium Backup instead of uninstalling/deleting them right away - that way you can always re-enable them if your system should become unstable or start acting up.
freewilli said:
I would like to bring this thread up again.
I do have the same problem as DaveC1964.
All I want is a "clean looking" tablet without Google+, Pulse, SocialHub,GameHub etc.
I also hate that those apps connect to the web. I know you can disable that, but I want them gone.
I only use the internet browser, youtube and pdf app.
How do I uninstall those preinstalled annoyences?
Is there a way to do this without a custom ROM?
Thank you
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As long as you do not run the apps and dosen't setup accounts they are not accessing the web i think.
I love Pulse!
Thank you for your answers.
I am going to root my tab and use titanium backup afterwards.
Startup Manager
you can easily sort out all the bloatware, unneeded startup apps and make your tab fast I've tested it does a great job
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyLmZ1bGwiXQ..
When I frist got my n7, I believe it took about 30-40 seconds to boot up. As I have installed apps it has taken longer and longer.
I've cleared up a fair about of space (1.5 gig free) but it's still a slow bootup.
I've read all about google 'takes of everything' and will kill idle processes, but really I don't want to give these apps permission to start in the first place. here's an example: appsales, a neat app that will let you see what is on sale. But I want to run it when I want to run, not get notifications in my task bar '5 new apps on sale!'. I'm not saying this app is the culprit but you get my point.
From what I've read, there's no real way to stop this, task killers just continually check and re-kill the app. I just wanted to confirm, there's no way, (even with a custom rom) to have control and say no this app can never launch?
If that's true, what do others use to kill background apps.
I was going to wipe it and install a custom rom, but I bet as I install all my apps again, I'll be back in the same boat. And I've read others install their apps one at a time to find which ones are causing issues, well there must be a better way.
Remember when you first started using windows 95/98 and you discovered msconfig? It was like, 'Cool now I can stop all these freaking apps from loading at startup!'
here you go, only enable the apps you want, and problem solved. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImltb2JsaWZlLnN0YXJ0dXBtYW5hZ2VyIl0.
You could go one step further and use openpdroid. You will need to be rooted on a non-stock ROM, though.
Once you have it installed, you can control a slew of permissions, including the one that allows booting at start.
I use the mobile phone in the process, feel the speed is very slow, does there have a app, can run a memory more than 90% in the use of the process ,It can automatically clean up? I use sgI9500
wufang640 said:
I use the mobile phone in the process, feel the speed is very slow, does there have a app, can run a memory more than 90% in the use of the process ,It can automatically clean up? I use sgI9500
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There's a few things you can try. First have you changed the animation/transition speeds in developer settings, it definitely makes things feel a bit snappier.
If you're rooted you can try greenify to hibernate apps running in the background.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
You can remove unneeded Samsung/bloatware apps installed on the /system directory, this frees up some RAM. If you're not rooted you can disable unneeded apps in applications.
Or another option is to install a custom ROM that has performance tweaks and bloat removed.
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gsmyth said:
There's a few things you can try. First have you changed the animation/transition speeds in developer settings, it definitely makes things feel a bit snappier.
If you're rooted you can try greenify to hibernate apps running in the background.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
You can remove unneeded Samsung/bloatware apps installed on the /system directory, this frees up some RAM. If you're not rooted you can disable unneeded apps in applications.
Or another option is to install a custom ROM that has performance tweaks and bloat removed.
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thanks guys, greenify is good.
wufang640 said:
I use the mobile phone in the process, feel the speed is very slow, does there have a app, can run a memory more than 90% in the use of the process ,It can automatically clean up? I use sgI9500
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I found that the best thing was to just play around with the settings. I uploaded a quick tips video on how to speed up your Galaxy S4 using my i9500, but any variant will work. The link to the video is here: http://goo.gl/7Y71w0. It actually makes a huge difference (you can notice the changes straight away) and its really simple to do even if you are a new user.
Another good thing to do was to get rid of Samsung's bloatware which helps free up lots of memory and the whole UI feels a bit less bogged down. To do this you can either individually disable each app you don't want in settings > more > application manager > and choose and force stop or uninstall the app you wish to remove. While this doesn't get rid of the app from your actual device, it will stop it from eating all your RAM. A better way to do this (but it is more difficult) is to run the "Truly Clean" script on your device. I made a tutorial of it on my website here: http://goo.gl/dgk67P and the original thread is here: http://goo.gl/63SmWI.
Hope that helps you out
Clean Master is a greate application, all in one, it do a well job. it's free on google play stor :
The Ultimate Guide to Speeding Up Androidby BeastSpencer
Have any tips? Let me know!
REQUIREMENTS:
- your phone
- a brain
- (optional) root access
THESE STEPS CAN BE IN A RANDOM ORDER, I AM ADDING THEM AS I GO!
As for some quick speeding up, you can download the attached apk and install it (android 4.3 and up). It makes use of TRIM support, which trims your device of old crap on a schedule to help your device run faster.
FIRST THINGS FIRST! If you have ART, use it! The AOT Compiler makes booting up apps way quicker! Keep in mind enabling it with cause some apps to crash (ie Xposed).
First up, I recommend downloading Clean Master and SD Maid to clean up your phone from all the crap. Run every task in both apps, then you can uninstall them. Next, go get Greenify and RAM Booster from the Play Store. In Greenify, go ahead and hibernate ALL the apps. (don't worry, nothing will become obsolete.) In RAM Booster, go ahead and grant it root access and enable it.
Next, go into the My Files app on your phone (or use a different file manager) and clean out ALL empty folders, as Android gets slowed down with having so many. You can also get rid of old files that you never use. It makes browsing through quicker, too.
Turn off ALL the unused features on your phone except for the necessities, such as mobile data, wifi, sync, from the notification bar. Now, go into your app manager and clean out all the apps that you don't use anymore or haven't used in a while.
OPTIONAL: Get a faster launcher such as Nova Prime or GNL and enable the "stay in memory feature" if it has one. Also on the launcher, try to limit the amount of widgets and apps you have on your home screen, and try to use a static wallpaper instead of a live one.
Next, if you have a custom recovery, go ahead and wipe the cache. On first boot, your device will take longer to boot up and apps will take longer to open, but on second boot it will be BUTTERY smooth.
Now, download ROM TOOLBOX and first go to DNS Changer. Click on Google DNS and apply it. Your data speeds should be a bit faster now. Also, try "Android Browser" or "Naked Browser" from the Play Store for faster browsing speeds.
Next, go to build.prop tweaks, click the capacitive menu key, click Edit, then edit or add these tweaks:
ro.config.hw_quickpoweron=true
persist.sys.shutdown.mode=hibernate
dev.bootcomplete=0
ro.ril.power_collapse=1
pm.sleep_mode=1
wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180
ro.ril.hsxpa=2
ro.ril.gprsclass=10
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=10
ro.ril.hsupa.category=5
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.hep=1
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.rill.enable.a53=1
debug.sf.hw=1
persist.sys.purgeable_assets=1
Then, your device should boot faster, have quicker internet, and be smoother.
If you can, install a custom kernel optimized for speed.
Now, install Xposed Framework from dl.xposed.info then install Wanam Xposed from Google Play. Activate it and reboot. Then, go to System in Wanam and uncheck "Enable Touchwiz DVFS" and uncheck "Scrolling Cache." Next Install BootManager and activate it in Xposed. Then check ALL the apps. Press the capacitive menu key and click on settings. Then click on enable fastboot. Your phone should boot way faster now and be smoother at scrolling.
Next, get Safestrap if you don't have it already and flash Walter.White's Debloater. It will get rid of all the crap and free up RAM. If you think it gets rid of too much, then use my light version.
Go back into ROM Toolbox and go to CPU control and slide both meters all the way up. WARNING: this may cause your phone to warm up and drain battery quicker.
Now, go into Settings, go to the 4th tab and scroll down to About Device. Click on that and scroll down to Build Number. Then tap that 7 times.
Go back, and now click on developer options, then scroll down to the 3 boxes with "animation scale" and set them to .5x or off.
Then go into Account settings and go into each account and disable the sync options you don't need.
Go to the Google Play store and download App Cache Cleaner and run it, then uninstall it if you want.
That's about it folks! If you have any suggestions or other speed tweaks, let me know. - Beast
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This is some good information/advice. Thank you!
:good: Let me know if you have anything to add or change.
BeastSpencer said:
Go to the Google Play store and download App Cache Cleaner and run it, then uninstall it if you want.
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If you looking for an App Cahce Cleaner, take a look at AppWererabbit.
It is FREE, no ads and no analystics.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aw.AppWererabbit
Thanks bro !!! GREAT POST !!
Your the man!
These are the best tips anyone could use so many people are missing out! Everyone should do this. Great Job!:highfive:
Does greenifying everything affect some of the apps live updates/ notifications?
Also when you say all empty folders do you mean literally every folder that has nothing in it?
derek.urben said:
Does greenifying everything affect some of the apps live updates/ notifications?
Also when you say all empty folders do you mean literally every folder that has nothing in it?
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no, i think as long as u have sync enabled with them ur fine
sync settings will wake the apps when needed
i greenify gmail and i still get my XDA emails etc
greenify just kills them running in the background when not needed
i dont know if its the same for u tho
and yes for the folders, it also makes navigating through your phone way quicker without having to go through all those useless lol
Amazing guide. Thanks a lot...
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