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[Q] No Nandroid Backup

Hello all. Well, last night I rooted my phone and then was going to install the original wireless tether app that Jr33 did.
My problem is when I tried to make a backup after it rooted I now get this:
Opening update package...
E:Can't open /cach/update.zip
(bad)
Installation aborted.
From here I can reboot or reinstall but it does the same thing and just brings me back to rebooted with no backup made as far as I can tell. There's never a choice to select nandroid.
Is there something I'm missing here? Is my update.zip corrupted? Or any suggestions on what to do next?
Thanks

did you install Clockwork recovery post-root? That places a new update.zip in your internal SD that is needed for taking and restoring nandroid backups.
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I downloaded the update.zip file again. Gives me the same error message.
I think I think I had ROM Manager installed before I rooted but I hadn't run anything in the software yet. (Can't quite remember, slept since then)

Go to Rom Manager, pick the Vibrant as your phone, top option will be to download and install clockwork recovery. Once this is done you can make a nandroid backup inside clockwork recovery... You can use rom manager to boot into it (NOT the stock recovery)
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That worked. Picked Vibrant as my phone. Then it didn't error out and I could get to the screen where I could choose nandroid. Ran the backup. Rebooted & ran the Mobile AP. It works too. Now maybe lag fix next... Thanks!

^ why bother with the lag fix? Froyo is coming this month... patience.

Mostly because the lag on my phone drives me crazy, I might wait for 2.2 though. Lots of reading before I pull the trigger on the lag fix. Seems like lots of people are on the fence as to if they're happy with it or not and I'm not a fan of unintended consequences.
FWIW, this is my 2nd phone & the first was less laggy than this one, but it drained batteries like no tomorrow. Never got more than 5hrs out of a fully charged battery. This phone has gone 18hrs but usually more like 12.

^ that sounds absurd to me (5 hours)....
when you say "lag"... what exactly are you seeing that makes you say it's laggy? Sounds like a basic question, but if you can, please explain.... Do you mean the app drawer/moving screens, etc.... do you mean opening apps?
I would suggest trying LauncerPro.

It was absurd. I unplugged once at midnight fully charged and went to bed. Didn't wake up in time for work because the phone didn't make it to 6:30 when my alarm was supposed to go off. I exchanged it that day after work.
The "lag" I consider is mostly opening & closing applications. Like when I'm in gmail and I hit the home or back button to go to the home screen. I press & then wait what feels like half a second for the phone to respond. Other examples are in Craigsnotification when I want to mark something as read or want to go back a screen and it just hangs there for a second. The other phone was much faster with this. With this processor I expect applications to open virtually as fast as I can press the icon.
I'll try out LauncherPro, thanks.

Re: lag - I'm not sure, but it seems to me that syncing operations in the background seem to cause slow response times, or lag, if you will.
Might help to look into what applications you have running, ex. Facebook, twitter, etc and try decreasing the sync frequency.
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If you are rooted you may also want to try Autostarts (or a similar app) that will prevent apps from starting during certain tasks (bootup, texts, emails, etc). It may help... I really do not notice the lag people always talk about. I also came from a CM5 G1 to the Vibrant, so perhaps it is relative.

The lag was pretty bad on mine. Black screen for a few seconds as I was switching between apps or opening/closing them. It wasn't like it was the worst thing in the world or anything, but it was definitely enough to notice and gnaw at me daily.
At the time, I thought it was unrelated but the native Email app (which I synched up to my work email) was simply craptastic, to the point of me going back to my work-issued Treo 750 to simply read and reply to emails given how absurdly slow and non-responsive the Email app was.
Anyway, I downloaded RyanZA's One-click Lag .apk from the Market, applied it, and I couldn't be happier with my phone. Now it feels like the phone I expected it to be when I bought it, no more lag, it's super-responsive, and it also fixed my email app issues. The Email app is seriously a night and day difference after applying the lag fix, I really like it now and use it daily.
My wife has an unrooted stock Vibrant (she's not as adventurous I guess) and we both use Launcher Pro. After the Lag Fix I handed my phone to her and told her to mess around with opening up apps, streaming pandora, surfing, etc. She said it was definitely much faster than her phone and more responsive.
Re: possible adverse consequences... well, that's what nandroid backups are for, I guess. Between Clockwork/nandroid backups I've taken, both the rooted and unrooted stock update.zip files provided here at XDA, and the option to flash to stock via ODIN, I felt that those things were enough to mitigate the risk of applying the lag fix to my phone, including the mods I've applied like applying the MobileAP and Captivate camera .zips. YMMV.

This is my first Android phone, coming from Blackberry Curve 8320. I really expected it would be a giant leap in performance considering the Vibrant is 3x faster than the Curve. I about took it back the first day because the Facebook app was so unbelievably slow and lacking features compared to the BB app, I about threw it across the room a few times waiting for things to load.
I was stuck on EDGE with the BB with my d/l speed somewhere around 800kbps compared to I regularly hit 6Mbps with the Vibrant on 3G. Inexplicable to me why it takes as long as it does to function. I'm replacing my cable internet with wireless tethering so the 3G was important to me.
Launcher Pro seems to be a noticeable improvement in speed. I'm going to miss the full screen Updates widget... Have to figure out a replacement.
Most likely I'll pull the trigger on the lag fix, too impatient. If only the GPS worked the majority of the time... Going on a 1500 mile road trip next week and I know I'll be cussing at this thing. Even without GPS on the BB as long as I had internet at least I could always figure out where I was.
Thanks for everyone's responses, very helpful. I'm sure I'll love this thing eventually, hopefully.

OP,
not sure if you tried this but try rebooting into clockwork recovery and doing a nandroid from there. two ways to do that, once you have the clockwork update.zip in sd root:
1. with the clockwork app. option reboot into clockwork recovery
2. turn phone off > turn phone on while holding power and vol +/- > install update zip > you should now be in clockwork recovery

My battery advice to those who need battery help

I keep reading on here about how either someones battery life is either awesome or great or this or that. It seems that many folks on here with great battery life are old pros at milking their phones for the best battery life possible, while others may not know the best methods for getting the optimal battery life they want.
So here are some tips for getting the battery life you want:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
Update: It is recommended that you do not do this very often as some say it could damage the battery in the long term. You should do this early on in the life of the phone as the damage if any would be minimal. This needs to be done regardless. It is the only way for the phone to get an accurate full/zero reading.
Update 2: I have found that after doing a factory reset, you need to do this step again. After a factory reset on 4.1.83 (most recent update), my battery life dropped considerably. After letting it discharge fully and then charging it with the phone off again, I was back to normal battery use.
2) Set wifi to sleep when the phone is not in use. Unless you are streaming data such as pandora or other data intensive programs with the screen off, you do not need it on (I will talk about background data in a moment for those who are going to mention that the phone still does data while it is sleeping). You can change the setting by going to Settings > Wireless networks > wifi settings > menu button > advanced > wifi sleep policy
ofek said:
You should write that after settings it you need to click on menu button->save.
If you will not do this step, every reboot it will restored to "Never" option.
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3) Disable motoblur's account settings sync over cell data. This setting causes all of your account information to sync over your data connection when wifi is not available. This should be disabled as it will constantly sync and drain your battery even when the screen is off. Really do you need you facebook contacts that are synced to your contacts to be updated every five minutes? Settings > Data manager > Data Delivery > social apps > sync over wifi.
Update: Only disable the Social Apps that sync over background, do not disable the Background data. Disabling background data will cause certain things to not work properly, like for instance the gmail app.
Update 2: If you are using the Twitter/facebook/whatever apps (real apps) you should go ahead and remove the associated accounts from Motoblur. You do not need them to sync twice as motoblur will sync them with it's account and then the apps will sync. The downside to this though is that any contact pictures you have synced from those accounts will no longer show up in contacts forcing you to manually add pictures to your contacts.
4) remove widgets. Widgets drain batteries when they are active. Most of them are useless and really serve no purpose other than to try and make you feel important about yourself. I mean really, how useful is a facebook widget that only shows one or two peoples updates? Trash the ones you can live without. If you are using a launcher other than motoblur, go and load motoblur and make certain there are none running on that launcher as those are still active even if you use another launcher.
5) live wallpapers suck battery like crazy. While they are nice eye candy to view, they are not worth the drain they cause. Even when you are in a app, just like the widgets, they are draining your battery.
Update: Some live wallpapers are better on battery drain than others, but they still drain battery either way. I will not use a live wallpaper as it serves no purpose other than eye candy, and eye candy on a phone I can live without.
6) Task killers. Yeah not going to touch this one as everyone who reads these forums should know better by now.
7) check individual programs as you install them and make certain they do not autoupdate content. Pulse news reader is a good example of a program that pulls data in the background even when you haven't used it in weeks. Really is it going to kill you to hit refresh when you load it?
Update: If you are using the AT&T program "Mark the Spot", it constantly is checking device performance and is constantly checking your location for it to "work". Be sure to watch this app as it drains a lot of battery through out the day.
8) turn off bluetooth, gps, and wifi when you are not actively using them. Wifi when on is always scanning the area for networks, bluetooth is always actively broadcasting (on some phones) and who needs gps when you aren't on the move.
Update: If you are experiencing a switch from H+ to Edge frequently such as in your home where you have wifi running and do not have a AT&T cell device, then turn off your data connection. Your phone is constantly trying to connect to the H+ network when it isn't already connected and draining power. If you are on WiFi, then your data connection is not needed.
I have heard Tasker is great for setting up an automatic script on your phone to do it for you so you don't have to think about it, but remember that all extra programs including tasker eat away at your battery and without real world testing, I can not promise you will see an improvement or a loss in battery.
You can also use APNDroid to do it manually if you would rather have full controll of your data connection.
9) Quit watching porn on your phone. Use your computer for that. Ok maybe I am the only one who does this but I doubt it. Alot if the free poem sites use flash videos and the more you use flash the faster your battery drains.
Update: Yes I know this is hard (no pun intended) for some of you to do, but the idea is sound. Using flash videos (the bulk (again no pun intended) of porn videos use flash).
These are not the only ways to have a great battery and this information may not be useful to you, but I can go nearly 20 hours of moderate to heavy phone use and still have anywhere from 40 to 60 percent battery left at the end of the day.
If anyone has any other advice that they feel should be listed here, please let me know and I will gladly add it to the mix.
Good luck folks.
Addition (5/12/11)
10) For those of you with the .83 update, please keep in mind that the update now forces you onto the EDGE (2G) Network if it can receive a better signal/stable connection. If you notice you are on EDGE more often than the H+ network, then disable your data connection. What is happening is that even though you have a solid connection to the EDGE network, your phone is constantly seeking the H+/3G networks thus using much more battery life than before. If you are at home or somewhere where your phone can connect to a wifi network, consider turning off the Data network. You should also disable your data connection whenever you are in a No Signal area. Again the same problem happens when you have no signal.
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Advice from other Members:
From Deggy
I would like to add to the OP's list of things to do to improve battery life:
Turn off date when not in use for a long period of time like work or school. Settings -> Date manager -> Date delivery -> uncheck Backround data and Data enabled. Don't worry, you'll still get your texts and phone calls.
The Market is a big drainer. Market -> hit menu -> settings -> change notify me -> do not notify me.
Those two are the big ones to worry about IMO.
The other tips are either cliche stuff or other people said already. Wifi off, GPS off, brightness down to 0-20%, ect. Auto sync is killer.
I unplug my phone at 9AM and come home from work at 9PM and my phone says 75% with moderate use (Circle battery widget uses 1% increments). 3-4 phone calls. A LOT of texting (wifey likes text me). Internet during 30 minute lunch. Play Words with Friends a good amount.
I don't use live wallpaper but I do use a darker colored static one. Only got 4-5 widgets on my screen. 3 home screens. Using Launcher Pro.
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pookeyster said:
In some of the other battery threads, ppl have been commenting on how they've had success in extending the battery life after a hard factory reset. What that basically does is it deletes and regenerates the batterystats.bin file in /data/system and if the battery was essentially mis-calibrated prior to the reset, the reset fixes it thus giving better measurements. ie. perhaps after 10hrs of usage the phone might say u have 5% left, but in reality you could have 40% left.. the regeneratin of batterystats.bin would recalculate that correctly
if you want the benefits of having that reset process but rather not go through having to restore all ur apps/back them up.. u could always manually go and delete the batterystats.bin file (only if you're rooted). i would recommend deleting the file after fully charging the phone overnight then unplug it so that it generates the file again. if you'd prefer an app to do this for you automatically you could always go to the marketplace and get 'battery calibration' app for free and it does the same thing
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cybal said:
My want to include details about corp email sync. Using "push data" can really chew up the battery and is probably not better then retrieving email every 15 or 30 mins for most people. There may also be a problem with setting a long history time such as 1 month.
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The following was posted on the MotoAtrix forums on Motorola's website. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/51776
I've seen a lot of posts in a lot of threads about how to save battery life on the Atrix. So, I figured I'd start a consolidated thread on the matter. These are the tips 'n tricks I've used, and I can get 2 days of battery life on the Atrix now.
1. When I first got the Atrix, before turning it on, I charged it for 4 hours. After turning it on, I let it run until it died, then re-charged for 8 hours. I did that for a full week. They say that this isn't needed with the new-fangled batteries, but I have always done this, and have always gotten great results.
2. Live wallpapers are not your friend, especially in two circumstances: 1. you use your phone a lot, and 2. you use the stock unlock screen where everytime the phone wakes the live wallpaper is playing. Granted, they don't eat up much battery, but if you're looking to get every ounce/percentage out of your phone, it's a luxury you can leave at home.
3. Did you install a new launcher? If so, did you clear out BLUR? I had my BLUR interface up and running with widgets and shortcuts, etc, etc. When I switched to ADW I noticed an increase in battery drain. I re-loaded BLUR and deleted all apps, widgets, etc so BLUR is blank. I now have great battery life with ADW running.
4. Widgets - ugh. They're pretty, they're big, they're animated, and they eat battery like bees eat pollen. Be mindful of them, and be willing to accept the consequences of the "cool factor".
5. Screen timeout. Yes, it's annoying to unlock your phone every 5 minutes, but you do save battery life with a 1-minute or less timeout option set.
6. Close your apps! Many apps, games especially, are fantastic at running in the background on Android, but they're sucking battery. They all restore to your previous position quite well, so if you're done for a few hours, exit it instead of just going back to your launcher screen.
7. "back" vs. "home" - the back button (the reverse arrow) does a much better job of closing down programs than the home button which just brings up your home screen, leaving whatever you were doing to hungrily consume battery like zombies on a corpse.
8. "manage apps" is your friend - go to your app tray, hit the menu button, and select "manage apps" - you can see all the running apps and kill them selectively. Some, like Facebook, Skype, and others, will stay there as long as the phone is on once you use it, unless you kill it. Be forwarned though, you'll stop getting notifications if you do this - another informed tradeoff. I do this once every few days, or if the Atrix seems sluggish.
9. Screen brightness - the "auto" setting doesn't work all that well, but I highly recommend leaving it there, and/or using a screen brightness toggle widget on your home screen to manage this carefully. Screen brightness on maximum will yield the best viewing experience but it does drain battery the fastest of all.
10. Choose your BLUR accounts wisely - like widgets, if you have LinkedIn and Facebook connected through BLUR, it will run ALL THE TIME. Using the native apps from the market will definitely decrease your overall drain and give you better control over when and how your battery is consumed by those services.
11. Auto-kill or be killed - A good rule of thumb for me is to only auto-end a task if you know exactly what it is, and it didn't come with the phone. Chances are if you don't recognize it, even if it looks like something you don't need running, leave it be. If it's something you installed from the Market, and you want it to auto-end, have a field day. If you put something on the auto-end list that the Atrix needs, it will just keep re-starting it. This draws processor time and battery and isn't worth it.
12. (credit: Itsallgood) Check your profile - "settings -> battery" and look at the bottom half of the screen. The Atrix supports multiple battery saving profiles that allows you to control "night time" and whether to actively sync data all the time, never, or only during certain hours. Push mail and active data sync consumes battery at a steady pace. In addition, 3rd party apps (like Settings Profiles) can be downloaded to further tweak and customize everything from vibrate mode, screen, data sync, and more. The more customized your experience to fit your needs only when you need specific services, the better your battery life will be.
Anyway - that's some to get started, feel free to add more!
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wow nice ill try it i have my atrix for a couple of days and i have been like dissapointed i dont wanna do a factory reset or anything like it ill try ur guide and let u kno

Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
Thx
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Mr.Kakarot said:
Personally, I don't see the point of disabling everything that makes an Android fun and unique.... but, ill see how the battery is stock vs this once it arrives.
Thx
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You don't have to disable everything, but the things above such as the background data syncs serve no purpose other than to drain a battery. The sync will complete during the next wifi connection and by time you access your contacts it will be done. Besides it'd not like all your contacts change every 30 minutes.
The idea is not so much to limit the experience of android, but to remove the unused features that do nothing for.you. I mean who really needs a youtube widget when the shortcut gets you to youtube just as easily and doesn't drain your battery.
It's the same idea as startup programs on your computer. They serve no purpose other than to slow your system down. Sure quicktime or itunes might load a few seconds faster, but how often do you really load those programs.
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#9 = cant do
u know how they monitor work computer ?

Great Post
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own

keithr1475 said:
The only propblem now following your advice is that my gmail email does not upgrade (sync) on its own
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Are you using the gmail app or the default app? Mine works just fine.
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I'm using the Gmail APP

the gmail app doesnt sync on its own because you turn off auto sync
i recommend you use the power control widget and adjust those accordingly

Definitely a good list of things, but felt like commenting on the live wallpapers thing. From what I've experienced, it seems like it depends a lot on the wallpaper used. I initially thought the live wallpaper was one of the main reasons for the short battery life when I first got the phone so I switched to a normal wallpaper. I had that for about a week and generally saw a lot of improvements in battery life as a result of better management and the calibration cycles. After that week, I came across a live wallpaper I liked and decided to enjoy that feature for a bit more. If anything, it seemed like my battery life got a bit better. I've tested it a little, and there's no doubt that some of my live wallpapers drain battery more than others. I've tried switching between a standard wallpaper and my live wallpaper (galaxy live) and I really don't see much of a difference, if any, between the 2.
Question: Does freezing the blur home screen (via titanium backup) disable the widgets on it? I'm assuming it does, since it essentially makes that home screen non-existent as far as the phone is concerned.

Darrell, There are some really good suggestions. They also apply to other android phones too probably. I had a myTouch4G for a week until I decided that T-Mob just wasn't as good a value to me as AT&T. So I went back. I'll get an Atrix soon, or maybe some Tegra that comes out in a month or 2.

How do you switch to Motoblur from Launcher Pro and back again? Will I lose the customization that I've done?
Edit: Home Launcher

DarrellRaines said:
1) Calibrate your battery by letting if completely discharge and then charge it using the wall charger it came with. Do this at least three times so the phone has a chance to get real statistics.
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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?

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I read somewhere in this forum that you shouldnt let the battery run all the way down in the initial calibration week. Anybody know about this?
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Modern lithium batteries actually die faster if you fully drain them then recharge to full. I'm not saying you can't do it every so often for calibration purposes but it isn't recommended as a every day thing.
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We aren't running them down for the batteries health, but more so that the phone will understand what full and what dead actually is.
Do not do this often as there is no point. As for damaging the battery, one website says it is bad while others say it is good. Do so at your own risk. I do not have a degree in science, so I can not say either way, however the steps above done once the phone is calibrated will help.
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After 12 hours of moderate to heavy use today, I still have 50% battery remaining.
For the guy who's email stopped working, do not turn off all background data. That will stop the push settings I believe.
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wait....quit looking at porn on my phone?!??!!?
impossible!
no matter, im not having battery life issues.

Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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gambit_pr said:
Darrel this works i just did the wallpaper step and wow my battery stood up all day from 7am now is at%15 10pm
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Glad I could help.
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List of problems after ics update. LETS SHARE

Well im having all the problems below :
1. Assistive light not working
2. Lagging in "click sound" when locking the
device.
3. Cant load sd card most of the time
My question is, wtf? And its annoying. Id rather go back to gingerbread anytime.
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anyone knows how to disable to full screen when in landscape mode?
i cant seem to use my swiftkey tablet x now, which i was able to with GB.
Thanks!

Mine are not prbs but am yet to see most of the promised features to its full potential, Cant seem to find the new unlock screen features etc .. Just got my phone upgraded and exploring

SMS converting to MMS..
Does anybody know how to fix this issue?

ICS in Note
After upgrading to ICS via kies,
Battery seems to drain very fast.
Camera hangs up sometimes and other camera related apps like Instagram also but maybe the pic quality is little better.
It seems to crash when some other apps runs too.
Not sure if it was there before but I can pause music and video if I show my palm on the screen.
The screen rotates faster than in GB with a pause at the beginning though.
News fonts are good.
Window animations are good but still dont' know how to stop it since it might be draining battery fast.
Can use Chrome now and it's fast.

I cannot use Mass Storage Mode. I recieve a "Ui stopped to work" error.

I am facing,
1. High android OS usage. Sometime its higher than Brightness, and most of the time its highest usage of batt after brightness. (I read somewhere, it said its calculation errors, but I think its not, cause my battery no longer last that long.)
2. Camera will sometimes fail to operate. I really dunno what is wrong with that.
3. Phone just cant go into deep slp. Its being kept awake by some apps (Which I cant narrow it) Using BetterBatteryStats, I found out its I2_HSIC. (Whats this I2_HSIC ??)
I am using a 5400mAh mugen batt. previously on GB, my usage can last me 24hrs, now it can only last 16hrs or less. I installed lesser apps, and lesser widgets. Disable account sync and google backup. Settings more or less kept the same.
Overnight my batt can reduce by 21%, it never happened before. lol. ICS...

i say fck ics, lets go backto eclair

poope said:
i say fck ics, lets go backto eclair
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YEAH! hahahaha

You guys are scarring the he'll out of me.I'm a very heavy user during work days . Juice defender and underclock, and low brightness.
I'll get about 7 hours of solid constant use with wifi ... So you ice guys are saying I won't even last past five hours
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I have a bug I have not seen mentioned.
Occasionally, usually about 1 time per day, My phone display will start to flash, with random green and red colors. The screen I'm on, will flash those colors then star to shake and slide.
It looks like a television station not tuned quite right on an analog antenna (if anybody remembers that!)
I can't reproduce it regularly, but It think it has happened when going from an Application, back to the home screen using the home button.
I am on ICS, Taiwan, stock, not rooted.
Anybyody else seen this?

Indian ICS Stock Rom
1. Unable to zoom in yahoo mail
2. Junos Pulse frequentely not responding (Uninstalled)
3. Picture thumbnail view very slow
4. Battery draining
5. Network signal poor reception
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Faced similar problems with ICS
stiffi2011 said:
I have a bug I have not seen mentioned.
Occasionally, usually about 1 time per day, My phone display will start to flash, with random green and red colors. The screen I'm on, will flash those colors then star to shake and slide.
It looks like a television station not tuned quite right on an analog antenna (if anybody remembers that!)
I can't reproduce it regularly, but It think it has happened when going from an Application, back to the home screen using the home button.
I am on ICS, Taiwan, stock, not rooted.
Anybyody else seen this?
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I faced this issue with stock ICS (rooted) .
I opened the browser to html5test.com , and the screen filled up with lines (similar to a TV noise) . Turning off did not seem to work, so i did a battery pull.
Unable to reproduce the problem so far!

tarunactivity said:
I faced this issue with stock ICS (rooted) .
I opened the browser to html5test.com , and the screen filled up with lines (similar to a TV noise) . Turning off did not seem to work, so i did a battery pull.
Unable to reproduce the problem so far!
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I can get the screen back by just waiting it out. Usually takes about 2 minutes. I sure do wish I knew what was happening, though, so I could confirm no damage was being done.

diamondpillow said:
I am facing,
1. High android OS usage. Sometime its higher than Brightness, and most of the time its highest usage of batt after brightness. (I read somewhere, it said its calculation errors, but I think its not, cause my battery no longer last that long.)
2. Camera will sometimes fail to operate. I really dunno what is wrong with that.
3. Phone just cant go into deep slp. Its being kept awake by some apps (Which I cant narrow it) Using BetterBatteryStats, I found out its I2_HSIC. (Whats this I2_HSIC ??)
I am using a 5400mAh mugen batt. previously on GB, my usage can last me 24hrs, now it can only last 16hrs or less. I installed lesser apps, and lesser widgets. Disable account sync and google backup. Settings more or less kept the same.
Overnight my batt can reduce by 21%, it never happened before. lol. ICS...
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As far as #2 goes, go to your battery stats and see if "media" is listed. If so, force close it and try again. Seems to work for me. I'm not sure if it is just me or not because I have been playing with settings lately, but the media scanner tends to run wild it seems (also seems to lend to battery drain).
I am just disappointed that they left out some of the nice features of ics like the updated gallery and camera. Seems kind of lazy to me and no wonder things arent working well if they are mix and matching gingerbread and ics rather than going all in and starting development from there. I would definitely go back to using one of the non tw ics roms if it weren't for the sod issues I was having...
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA

Iam not yet experiencing any bugs under heavy LPF usage but I agree they should have let us have more of ICS like wit the gallery
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA

Indian stock Rom:
- Battery life seems to be strange as sometime drain is too high and sometime i feel it's better then it was on GB. yet to track the exact pattern but in either case no wireless, no gps, no Bluetooth and Brightness @ 10%.
- opening contacts taking few seconds but now search on exchange server is well integrated.
-i have enabled 'face unlock' and sometime it will not respond at all so keep doing lock/unlock till get restored.
.......and I am unable to find s-note application, i tried under system/app as well but as don't know apk name not sure. can someone help pls.

me too
I also got that green bands screen you describe. I held down the lock button til the phone rebooted. I think I was using the Dolphin Browser at the time.
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I have a bug I have not seen mentioned.
Occasionally, usually about 1 time per day, My phone display will start to flash, with random green and red colors. The screen I'm on, will flash those colors then star to shake and slide.
It looks like a television station not tuned quite right on an analog antenna (if anybody remembers that!)
I can't reproduce it regularly, but It think it has happened when going from an Application, back to the home screen using the home button.
I am on ICS, Taiwan, stock, not rooted.
Anybyody else seen this?
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1. Poor battery.
2. Sync errors: calendar sync freezes up every once in a while
3. Brightness slider in notification bar gone, tasker can not effect change of brightness anymore, only choice is to keep automatic brightness on, otherwise blinded out in sun.
4. Contacts and phone apps show up in 5s or more to load: need to switch to those ugly dialers, no choice at all
5. No widgets menu in app drawer as in nexus ICS
6. Launchers freezing: tried both nova and apex: many a times the screen went blank for a few seconds after hitting home (didn't crash though)

poope said:
i say fck ics, lets go backto eclair
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Cupcake FTW!

Get Maximum Battery Out of Stock JellyBean ROM (plus fix Media draining much battery)

Personally have been experiencing HUGE challenges regarding battery life of JB. and i have searched and searched, complained and complained in many xda threads. But in the end, i think this method is the best I figured out and it works pretty well!
I discovered the main cause of battery drain on JB is the 'Media Scanner'. I dont know exactly what the issue is, but it DRAINS your battery! I thought it was a corrupt file in my phone that was causing Media scanner to get stuck and scan for loong periods instead of 2 - 3 minutes which it should take regularly. (btw media scanner is launched every time you restart your mobo or make changes to your media files as far as i know). I formatted both my Internal and External SDs but it still didnt help. Now use the following Steps below to solve these issues.
1. Download Media scanner ROOT.
This app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot&hl=en
2. Download Media scanner also
This one - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascanner
3. Always set 'Power saving' option on phone on. I can assure you that you'll hardly notice the difference in performance when you turn on power saving.
Having said that, if you want more brightness, you can increase from toggle or just tick auto by the side of brightness level settings right there in your notification bar.
Also, if you need to game or use heavy app that require alot of system resources, just turn off power saving.(Because power saving slows down your processors Maximum state from 1200MHz or 1.2GHz to 800MHz.)
How to use the apps mentioned in numbers 1 and 2.
First one is to stop it (Media scanner) from ever scanning. So open that one with ROOT at the end of the name (Grant SU prompt), then hit disable media scanner button wait for it to work. Just one or two seconds.
Sometimes you might open your gallery and notice a file is missing or you might not see even a single picture or vid in it.
ONLY NOW! can you open the second app dat DOESN'T contain ROOT at the end of its name.
Just open it and then hit the back button to close. thats all!
What this does if to call the media scanner you disabled earlier with first app so it can scan your SD Cards and your gallery will display your files.
You can read the application descriptions on Play store for better understanding.
If you notice that these steps still doesn't help you with your battery drain issue, try disabling Motions and Animations in debugging options too. Both in settings. Then test battery again and see how good it works.
IMPORTANT: You also want to change PhilZ recovery Backup format from .dup to .tar as this might be the reason why Media scanner goes crazy. How to - Reboot into recovery, select Backup and restore, then select 'Choose backup format', then hit tar. Now delete all previous backups done in .dup format and then hit 'Free Unused backup Data' or go into phone, delete the folders of the backups done in .dup and then delete evreything in blobs folder. Now do a fresh Nandroid which will now be in .tar format. ( Always Have a Nandroid backup on your phone , it can come in handy! )
REMEMBER: What works for one person, might not exactly work for everyone. We don't have 100% same hardware. . So take it easy while throwing your shots at me. I just decided to share this.
I hope this helps some solve their battery issue.
Please hit thanks if this helps you.

Attached screenshots of my test from steps in first post.
ROM! is The SWEET SMOOTH NEAT ROM LITE v4.0
Here are the details of the screenshots i attached to this post, just incase you can't go through all of them.
1. Battery at 97%.
98% (3:05:20) deep sleep after 3h:08m:49s (total time on batt3)
2. Battery at 95%
97% (5:58:26) deep sleep after 6h:07m:18s (total time on batt3)
Had major whatsapp activity in the backgroud (I always have )
3. Battery at 70% - 12:59pm
Screen time - 2h 4m 10s
4. Battery at 50% - 2:30pm
Screen time - 3h 17m 38s
5. Battery at 40% - 3:06pm
Screen time - 3h 53m 12s
6. Battery at 30% - 3:48pm
Screen time - 4h 33m 27s
7. Battery at 20% - 4:27pm
Screen time - 5h 12m 20s
8. Battery at 10% - 5:03pm
Screen time - 5h 48m 21s
9. Battery at 1% - 5:31pm
Screen time - 6h 15m 19s
Also to achieve this, i had all bloatware frozen (full list in my S2 Facebook group - Link in my signature)
Turned Off Sync, and motion (really dont know if this affected result since i guess you need to use the motion,
for it to use up your battery).
Anyways, having said all these, i had running in background, facebook messenger, whatsapp, email pushing hourly,
Instagram. Did some surfing using Opera mini from time to time, Watched Videos... and some other stuff i cant remember of course.

The fact that Power Saving does not slow down the phone like older builds is strange.
I don't even know if it works that well yet.
I mean, I used Power Saving on my friends S3 and the phone got really slow.

stanley08 said:
Personally have been experiencing HUGE challenges regarding battery life of JB. and i have searched and searched, complained and complained in many xda threads. But in the end, i think this method is the best I figured out and it works pretty well!
I discovered the main cause of battery drain on JB is the 'Media Scanner'. I dont know exactly what the issue is, but it DRAINS your battery! I thought it was a corrupt file in my phone that was causing Media scanner to get stuck and scan for loong periods instead of 2 - 3 minutes which it should take regularly. (btw media scanner is launched every time you restart your mobo or make changes to your media files as far as i know). I formatted both my Internal and External SDs but it still didnt help. Now use the following Steps below to solve these issues.
1. Download Media scanner ROOT.
This app - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascannerroot&hl=en
2. Download Media scanner also
This one - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.addz.mediascanner
3. Always set 'Power saving' option on phone on. I can assure you that you'll hardly notice the difference in performance when you turn on power saving.
Having said that, if you want more brightness, you can increase from toggle or just tick auto by the side of brightness level settings right there in your notification bar.
Also, if you need to game or use heavy app that require alot of system resources, just turn off power saving.(Because power saving slows down your processors Maximum state from 1200MHz or 1.2GHz to 800MHz.)
How to use the apps mentioned in numbers 1 and 2.
First one is to stop it (Media scanner) from ever scanning. So open that one with ROOT at the end of the name (Grant SU prompt), then hit disable media scanner button wait for it to work. Just one or two seconds.
Sometimes you might open your gallery and notice a file is missing or you might not see even a single picture or vid in it.
ONLY NOW! can you open the second app dat DOESN'T contain ROOT at the end of its name.
Just open it and then hit the back button to close. thats all!
What this does if to call the media scanner you disabled earlier with first app so it can scan your SD Cards and your gallery will display your files.
You can read the application descriptions on Play store for better understanding.
If you notice that these steps still doesn't help you with your battery drain issue, try disabling Motions and Animations in debugging options too. Both in settings. Then test battery again and see how good it works.
REMEMBER: What works for one person, might not exactly work for everyone. We don't have 100% same hardware. .So take it easy while throwing your shots at me. I just decided to share this.
I hope this helps some solve their battery issue.
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Any idea why the set back bottom becomes hot when I use 3G ? Need a solution desperately
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

Conceptunlimited said:
Any idea why the set back bottom becomes hot when I use 3G ? Need a solution desperately
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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Its normal for your mobile to get hot using 3G. But wat you can do right now is use lowest brightness possible. And flashing a different modem can solve. Did in ICS.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium.
Please hit thanks if I helped you.

MaKTaiL said:
The fact that Power Saving does not slow down the phone like older builds is strange.
I don't even know if it works that well yet.
I mean, I used Power Saving on my friends S3 and the phone got really slow.
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Amazes me too... But what can I say?! More for us! Lol.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using xda premium.
Please hit thanks if I helped you.

MaKTaiL said:
The fact that Power Saving does not slow down the phone like older builds is strange.
I don't even know if it works that well yet.
I mean, I used Power Saving on my friends S3 and the phone got really slow.
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Yup, when i first tried my friend S3 i was amazed at how slow it got if you turned on this option, doesn't happen in s2 JB which is strange, however i will try this 3 things to see if battery life does increase.

Driss97 said:
Yup, when i first tried my friend S3 i was amazed at how slow it got if you turned on this option, doesn't happen in s2 JB which is strange, however i will try this 3 things to see if battery life does increase.
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Yh. Power Saving on ICS was so laggy too!

up.

stanley08 said:
up.
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Wow, really? Upping your own thread which contains, with all due respect, nothing new anyway?

Pfeffernuss said:
Wow, really? Upping your own thread which contains, with all due respect, nothing new anyway?
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It happens! And yh, i edited post 1 and 2.

I don't know why you guys have this media scanner problem. My battery life with LSJ (NeatROM Lite) is the best I have ever seen on SGS2, (best screen-on time + call time, and it sleeps like a baby) and media scanner isn't showing in BBS, at least not frequently. Maybe you all are using .dup format for CWM backups? It's the default on Philz kernel (at least it was), but I changed that in recovery options to .tar.

pilgrim011 said:
I don't know why you guys have this media scanner problem. My battery life with LSJ (NeatROM Lite) is the best I have ever seen on SGS2, (best screen-on time + call time, and it sleeps like a baby) and media scanner isn't showing in BBS, at least not frequently. Maybe you all are using .dup format for CWM backups? It's the default on Philz kernel (at least it was), but I changed that in recovery options to .tar.
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Pilgrim bro, you have a very good point there bro. Maybe i should look into this and change my recovery option to tar also... But anyways, the steps in the first post fixes the issue.

Is it possible to use voltage control app to limit max processor signal to 800mhz, and save more battery?

Not sure what people are complaining about?
I've stripped alot, and i mean alot of APK's from the system folder. Had around 6 hours screen time, and around 1 day 3 hours uptime on first cycle.
No wakelocks, nothing. Best ROM i've used in a long time!

After disabling media scanner my music player and video player doesnt show any files.. and the ringtones are set to default samsung tones instead of what i hav set..
any solution for that ???/

superleeds27 said:
Not sure what people are complaining about?
I've stripped alot, and i mean alot of APK's from the system folder. Had around 6 hours screen time, and around 1 day 3 hours uptime on first cycle.
No wakelocks, nothing. Best ROM i've used in a long time!
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+1. What is the most important thing - disable Google Now, change dup to tar, delete backups created in dup (they are causing media scanners to go wild), disable motion, disable smart stay and that's it, more or less.

rocky183ya said:
After disabling media scanner my music player and video player doesnt show any files.. and the ringtones are set to default samsung tones instead of what i hav set..
any solution for that ???/
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Just pop open the app named Rescan Media ROOT. wait like ten seconds after opening, then hit Disable media scanner. hit back button once to close app. And ur stuffs will be back in place.

adrian13th said:
Is it possible to use voltage control app to limit max processor signal to 800mhz, and save more battery?
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Lol bro. Take it easy and remember its just a phone.

Conceptunlimited said:
Any idea why the set back bottom becomes hot when I use 3G ? Need a solution desperately
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
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I solved this by flashing XXKH3 modem in recovery mode (leaving RIL unchanged), using Philz Kernel 3.70 but I have GT-I9100.

Anyone having any Lag & Heat Issues???

Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!

You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).

Majin101 said:
You'll have to boot to safe mode to see if the issue persists. Also, make sure power saving mode isn't on (I've left it on before).
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I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.

[email protected] said:
I'm experiencing the same issues - overheating, slowing down, serious lag. It's simply terrible. I exchanged it and the new one is just as bad and maybe even worse.
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welcome to samsung

I have none of these problems and i am a heavy user
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N930A using XDA-Developers mobile app

My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.

ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N930A using Tapatalk

borijess said:
I used the disable all bloatware. Looks to be working fine.
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Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.

ShrekOpher said:
Yeah it will break Samsung Pay though... I think it's related to the UIBCVirtualSiftkey app, but have not confirmed that. Also it does not get nearly all of the bloatware. There is a ton of new AT&T junk it does not disable as well as a bunch of new Facebook crap and Samsung crap.
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Can you provide a list?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N930A using Tapatalk

borijess said:
Can you provide a list?
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Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.

ShrekOpher said:
Definitely. It gave me the perfect opportunity to try out the scroll capture. Let me know if you have any questions. This is what I have disabled so far without any issues. Once I get a full completed list I'll probably do a write up about how to clean up the dock ROM. I think I'm about 70% done with the list.
So far I'm getting about 6.5 hrs of SOT and about 28 his of usage.
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What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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borijess said:
What is the file that could mess up Samsung pay? I can always restore disabled apps correct?
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I am not positive but I think it's the UIBCVirtualSoftkey if the doesn't fix it. Just enable all of the stuff you disabled and reboot. Then only disable what's on my list. I can confirm is working with my setup.

I'm exchanging mine tomorrow and was hoping for better news but from your experience it sounds like I may have to deal with an expensive piece of crap.

ShrekOpher said:
My guess is it has to do with one or multiple of the apps you have installed. There is a 3 step process to fix this issue.
#1 - See if any of the apps you have installed are running rouge. Check, battery usage, RAM usage, and Data Usage to see if you have any bad apps. Uninstall any 3rd party apps that you installed that are running too much. They may just still need updated to be optimized for this new device. Also you can use the "sleep" (doze) feature in battery management to restrict apps that are running TOO much in the background. Also on any apps that are using too much data or RAM check the permissions. If an app does not need access to Data, Media etc to work properly turn off those permissions.
#2 Debloat the device. I like "Package Disabler Pro". Basically if it has Facebook, FB, or ATT in the name you should disable it. Also you can go through an disable any Samsung software you do not use as well. I would be careful about using the "disable all bloatware" button because it is not setup correctly for this new device yet.
#3 Give it some time. It you have a TON of media on a micro EXSD card then it can take a new phone a long time to index and create thumbnails for all of that information. It should speed up i about a day or so once it finishes indexing. this will also effect your battery life till it is completed.
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I used this app and it's worked wonders.
Sent from my Galaxy Note7 using XDA Labs

This phone lags a lot especially in Chrome and other scrolling apps.. sometimes switching between apps takes lot of time too...I have been using Samsung phones for quite sometime, but unfortunately this is the phone lagging more than any other phone for me..debloated almost 150 apps, still the same..and it gets hot as well when watching videos...none of this happened for me on Note 5...I think Samsung screwed with Note7 software..when they initially released Grace UX software for Note 5, it was very smooth...but the final Note7 software seems to be laggy...the same apps and setup on Note5 doesn't give me these issues....gonna return and try my luck with new one...but good thing is battery life has been very good for me...easily 5hrs SOT whereas on Note5, I used to get only 3.5 hrs
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chrispyutec said:
Having Lag & Heat Issues???
Is anyone having lag issue or any heat issues? I guess I have one of the problem notes as mine has extreme lag and heat problems. I have cleared all caches and have also factory reset several times. What's weird is that the lag will come and go, but it's there more often than not. Even scrolling in settings has the jitters.
Any ideas anyone. I might be better off going through the miserable process of exchanging through the mail.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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I am exactly facing this issue..I am a heavy XDA user, so I monitor all the apps on phone and debloated lot (around 150) apps...still the same.. thing is lag doesn't happen all the times..but it starts from no where..but the phone consistently gets hot while moderate usage
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When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.

Gary02468 said:
When the phone is working properly, bloatware should make no noticeable difference and debloating is unnecessary.
My Note 7 usually responds instantly, with no lag, no matter how heavily I'm using it. That's with nothing disabled or debloated. (I'm using the Google Now launcher but everything else is stock/default, with no esoteric apps or settings.)
However, on three occasions in the week I've had the phone, it's gotten into a mode with serious lag while typing. In this mode, even though the characters I type still show up on the screen instantly, I can type 3 or 4 characters with no sound feedback or vibration feedback; then, there will be 3 or 4 delayed clicks and vibrations in rapid succession.
When this serious-lag mode starts, it continues even if I close all apps and put the phone in Airplane mode. It also makes no difference if I turn on power-saving mode, or even maximum power-saving. The only thing I've found that fixes it (for a while) is rebooting.
The intermittent occurrence of the serious-lag problem shows that it's not a matter of the phone being underpowered or overloaded. There's some specific bug that needs to be fixed.
UPDATE: It just happened for a fourth time. And when the serious-lag mode starts, it's not just typing that has a delay with audio feedback. The feedback delay also occurs when I tap on icons, tap on the Back or Recent-apps soft-buttons, etc. There's a delay of up to a second or two between tapping and hearing the feedback.
On the other hand, compute-intensive tasks--such as playing streaming video--work properly even when the phone is in serious-lag mode. So that's further evidence that there is some specific bug, and not a general problem of being underpowered or overloaded.
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Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....

quordandis said:
Curious, do these typing lags occur on the hangouts app?!?! It seems to be the ONLY app on my Note 5 (and all the other phones I've used) that has a VERY NOTICEABLE KEYBOARD LAG, especially with Samsung Stock keyboard. This happens even with other keyboards, but is WORST with samsung keyboard.....
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No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.

Gary02468 said:
No, the problem I'm seeing is unrelated to any app or keyboard. When my phone is in serious-lag mode, the problem occurs across the board. When it's not in lag-mode (which it usually isn't), then there's no lag in any app, including Hangouts.
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Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?

quordandis said:
Hmmm.....interesting....I use the app os monitor to show which processes are running at high cpu %. Perhaps that can shed some light on your lag issue?
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It happens even with all apps closed, no heat, no battery drain. It's not a side-effect of the phone being bogged down with anything.