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[Q] Switching to android

I am a linux fan and I am using Linux for a long time.I bought the HTC HD2. I saw some youtube videos about Android Froyo on HD2.I want to try it but they were showing that you have to put the file on the micro sd card and you have run it from there.My question is if I do it can I run windows mobile after a new boot ?or it will boot android for all time?I just don't want to let windows go because may be i will switch back.Can any one please help me?

Yes, you can easily get into winmo, every time you shutdown android you have to load winmo first and then use haret to load android, so no worries .

mlhazan said:
I am a linux fan and I am using Linux for a long time.I bought the HTC HD2. I saw some youtube videos about Android Froyo on HD2.I want to try it but they were showing that you have to put the file on the micro sd card and you have run it from there.My question is if I do it can I run windows mobile after a new boot ?or it will boot android for all time?I just don't want to let windows go because may be i will switch back.Can any one please help me?
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You can also get a boot loader from XDA and choose which you want to load at start up. windows or android...

HectiQ said:
Yes, you can easily get into winmo, every time you shutdown android you have to load winmo first and then use haret to load android, so no worries .
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Thanks for quick reply.Do you know which devices will not work on HTC HD2 if I run Android?Cause little confused here .Some people says wifi does not work ,some says camera does not work.Do you know actually what does not work?

That was a loooong time ago^^
Now, EVERYTHING WORKS, unless:
- You have an inappropriate Kernel (some still have issues, but the latest one works flawlessly)
- You have an inappropriate ROM (there's been reports on CM6 not being ok with all Kernels, hence the 1°)
- You have an "Exotic" rom (Desire HD, Desire Z...) : these aren't fully supported ATM
However, there are known issues with:
- Tethering, especially Wifi, it's not yet always 100% ok
- Kernels, they are all being tweaked, but IMHO, go for it, I don't boot WinMo anymore
- And other small annoyances, but that depends on your device, rom, kernel, etc etc etc
FOR YOUR CONCERN:
- Booting from an SD card is far from a flaw (to me) : Copy aside your data.img, and copy a build over it. You'll never loose your personal data by flashing again
- Hence this : Don't ask for "the best Android rom", all you'll have will be personal opinions, and may not suit you. Try them, it's damn easy, you won't loose your personal data, it's a matter of days
- Ask about the really important stuff : Kernels and Radio, and things like that, but AFTER getting through the other post and thread. Nothing more annoying than a "noob" (and we've ALL been through there, but...) that didn't (at least) try looking for himself.
->Try asking questions, starting with "I've been looking for this, found this, understood this, but need help about that" and you'll see how people will be grateful ^^

mlhazan said:
Thanks for quick reply.Do you know which devices will not work on HTC HD2 if I run Android?Cause little confused here .Some people says wifi does not work ,some says camera does not work.Do you know actually what does not work?
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To be honest, i just (finally) being able to install Froyo on my HD2, after a lot ROM changing, Radio ect....
I must say, is not really easy to finally find the perfect combination so u can use Froyo as your daily OS (at least for me)...but u will always got XDA, and from my opinion, all the hard work (flashing, changing rom/radio) is really worthed....
so far i dont have any problem running android on my HD2...
Sorry for my bad english....

[Q] HD2 Android?

after waiting for a while to see if windows 7 would be released publicly for this phone, and after finish paying off the phone i have decided to just say "Screw you microsoft" and go with an android build, but i have NO idea where to start with this.
The basics of my knowledge of cell phones is that i have put cookies home tab editor, and a few extra things on my phone, i have backed up my phone a couple of times, and i even done the official t-mobile upgrade for my phone, i know a decent amount about computers in general, but haven't had the chance to play around with my phone and it's OS like i have with a computer, being that my phone is very important to me because of my work, and that i don't have a house phone, only my cell phone.
So, could someone at least direct me to all of the forums with the best downloads for the andriod OS, and extras that i will need to get android working on my HD2?
and am i able to run cookies home tab on my HD2 even if it has android OS?

her u go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=735
and u will need
hspl2 or 3
just try the search option and u will get all the information about it ..
if you are ,form gemany then just try this link
http://www.pocketpc.ch/htc-hd2-android/100639-installationsanleitung-tutorial.html
if not
try search on hspl2 or 3

I'm from the USA, i have t-mobile, updateing to the android will still alow basic calling on t-mobile's edge, gprs, and 3-g networks right?
yea, i've been looking through that forum thread already, i can't find any leadway on what to do, i see about kernels and stuff, but i don't know what all i need to download in case to get the most "Stable" android system, i see there is a linux build, and i guess hastarin is another one?
Is Linux Stable now?

her u go ( hspl2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
and ya everthing is working well try for exampel this builds ..
they work fine
[UPD][BUILD][27.10.10]Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 2.3 rEVOlution [kernel:hastarin R7.7]
[UPD][BUILD][07.11.10] MDJ FroYo Sense Revolution v.1.5 [kernel: MDJ S1]
and dont forget this hier is an step by step information
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732380
hope that will help u

Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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Don't quote me on this, but from what I've heard HSPL2/3 indeed are not required, but if you somehow screw up your phone without them, you're basically ****ed. HSPL2/3 should always (well, most of the time) be able to revert you back to stock.

ogizz said:
Hmzz... i don`t understand it`s said in other posts that you don`t need hspl2 or 3 if you have ROM 3,14 in this post it is said that it`s needed...
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You don't need to upgrade HSPL at all. What you must have (100% MUST!!) is a radio version 2.08 or later (2.x.50 versions, NOT 2.x.51 versions).
Until the recent release of the official 3.14 ROM there was no other way to upgrade the radio to the minimum required other than custom flashing, which requires a HSPL upgrade. (Not 100% sure that 3.14 was the first, but I believe it was).
Either way, it's the radio that's crucial to Android - not HSPL.
(I ain't no Android chef or dev - this is just gleaned from what I've read on this forum, so may not be 100% accurate, but it's never failed for me.)

ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...

ogizz said:
ok, mine Radiois 2.15.50.14, so that means i don`t need to update radio, rom is 3.14.479.2(wwe) it`s stock one...
I have another question then: after installing android on sd card, is there any changes made to stock wm rom or else? or it`s just installing android on sd, and after formating sd card everything will be stock? thnx...
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Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.

johncmolyneux said:
Nothing else to do - just copy the android folder to your card and then run the 2 apps (clrcad & haret). Personally, I use a bootloader that runs with Windows, so when I reboot my phone I get the option to run Android or "run" Windows. (Windows is obviously already running at that point. It just closes the app if you select Windows.)
You don't need to format your card to go back to your current config. Just reboot your phone and don't run Android.
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Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.

ogizz said:
Thank you, now it`s easier to understand everything, i just thought that clrcad & haret, is needed to run only on first use, and it makes some changes to stock config of hd2. sorry if i misunderstood smthng, i`m new to android on hd2.
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No worries mate - glad to help. Hope you get it running - Android's sweet

rather than start a new thread, i have a supplementary question.
It's hard to search for this question, so apologies if it's been covered.
Is it better to run a stripped down custom WM ROM to boot android? or will a stock WM ROM (with the correct radio etc.) run Android just as good?
Does it make a difference?
(I just got a stock HD2 with 3.14 ROM and 2.08.50... radio...)

[Q] Need Advice/Knowledge on my new T-Mobile HD2

Hello everyone, first off let me start by congratulating the great team XDA-Developers for this awesome web page and the help they give to total NOOBS like me. Also I wanted to point out that if these questions or this thread are in the wrong place, please move it cause it's the firs time I ask for help.
Ok, so a little background, I'm not a complete noob on computers or cell phones, just on the HD2, I've had in the past a Nokia 6600, an HP 6515 running wm2003se, an iphone 3g and a 3gs, all of these were tweaked and hacked or jailbroken etc...
So now on the the questions, I just got myself a used T-Mobile HD2 cause I wanted to leave behind my iphone and have something with more power and customization options. Now I have this incredible phone in my hands and I have so many questions and plans for it, but I need Knowledge before I attempt to do anything and I can't seem to find the answers for my questions in any thread, so here goes !
1. should I update to the latest T-Mobile ROM from their web page ? Or should I at least download it to have it as a backup to flash back to stock ?
2. I think this device has already HSPL cause it had android on it before, how do I check the HSPL and should I use that or go for SSPL ?
3. As far as wm6.5 goes, I've been planning of flashing an Energy ROM, is that a good choice ?
4. Now, after having a cooked ROM on the device, I want to try android, but I want to be able to boot it from my SD card, I've been reading about Exceller's Android Loader, and according to what I've read i could have wm6.5 on my device and be able to dual boot different versions of android, an I gonna have issues with that ? are the android versions on the SD card gonna work properly ?
5. OK, so lets say I can have wm6.5 and 2 other versions of android on the SD card, how would the loaded apps get organized on the SD card ? can I choose when installing apps where they should be installed so I can keep the SD card organized ?
6. Whats the difference between NAND and RAM droid ? If I load Android through the SD card will it have less functionality than if I flash the device ?
7. Is using android from an SD card like emulating ? does it make the device slower, take up more ram, drain battery more ?
8. Does flashing a device with Android delete all traces of wm6.5 ? I ask this cause I want to try and know what is the fastest and more powerful OS i should have and keep on my device.
9. Does changing to android take away functionality from the HD2 remote (skip songs/pause/play/answer calls) ?
Well that's it for now, I have so many more questions but probably by now whoever is reading this has fallen asleep ! LOL
Thank you to anybody who has the patience to help me out.

[Q] getting started.

SO i am wondering i want to get Andriod on my HD2 and i do not know where to start and what to do. I have tried reading through some of the forums but the lingo makes little to no sense. i do not know what to download, where to download it from and how to install it. please help i want want to learn as much about this as I can and links with easy to use howto guides would be great.

robert57jones said:
SO i am wondering i want to get Andriod on my HD2 and i do not know where to start and what to do. I have tried reading through some of the forums but the lingo makes little to no sense. i do not know what to download, where to download it from and how to install it. please help i want want to learn as much about this as I can and links with easy to use howto guides would be great.
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First check out and get HSPL on your hd2. There's a thread for it. So you can install non stock ROMs.
Then you go and find a ROM that you like - completely your choice, I like American android.
Then you decide if you want to just run it from the SD card with the option to boot windows mobile, or you want to go completely android, so you want it on your nand (native android, on internal memory).
With regards to this you choose the appropriate ROM and then it is just about either getting the Haret file (for SD type) or magldr/clk bootloader installed (for nand type).
These instructions should mostly be included in the ROM's 1st post or somewhere near.
That's all there is to it.
Hope this helps.

(Q) Dualbooting Help

Hi, I am quite new to the HD2, so I have a question that might sound dumb to the more experienced people reading this.
Is it possible to Dualboot WP7 and Android ? But it is not that simple, I want my phone to boot into android unless I choose WP7 instead, I currently have Android ICS on my nand so what I need is something like the SD method used to dualboot WM6.5 and Android, but the other way around and with WP7 instead of WM6.5
Thanks.

Seems like even if I wanted to singleboot WP7, I cannot, because I cannot even get a rom, all the links are broken, If any on you have a WP7.8 with all the good stuff and tweeks I probably want, please link it.

Hi Traysa, you can only boot wp7 from nand using magldr. magldr lets you choose which OS autostarts in bootsettings. So you would need to partition your sdcard and use an SD android build, or better, a NativeSd ROM.
Shame the links are down, have you checked the last few pages of the threads for re-upped links? What wp7 takes your fancy? I might have it on HDD.
Off to sleep now, night night.
Oh, and you will need an activation code for wp7, don't think Microsoft give them out now as wp7 is unsupported.

Yes, I did look for reups for about an hour, found none, I would like a WP7 rom that has lots of preinstalled apps, because WP7 is no longer supported and getting them might not be very easy. dont really care if its Mango or WP7.8, I just want it to work. And about the WP7 activation key, how would I go about getting one ?
Thanks
edit: Forgot to add, I dont want to install wm6.5, i want to go straight from android to WP7, if at all possible.
The one you say you have ( WP7.8 pdaimatejam v8.8) should work, please mail it, or link it if you still have it.
Oh and pdaimatejam put this code out, it supposedly should work TP4CF-GK479-Q9Q4Q-WPYRP-7YR4D
heres another : CRFV7-X32H9-7QF2Y-CG239-V62YR

Off to work, will look later

After a **** ton of digging, I found a Hd2O ROM from a Dutch website, will try it.

No need for the rom anymore, the rom I found is working great, is it still possible to use the market ? When I try to make an account, it gives me a connection error, what do I do about that ? Also, I didn't use the key like you said, it never asked me to use a key.
Turns out I actually need a code, the two I found dont work. How do I get one ?

Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it

Traysa said:
Okay, so WP7 is working perfectly, but I want Android too, how do I do that ?
I like either something cool like FroYo, I need an SD rom right ? Heres one,but the link is down ( https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870518 ) I already have a few things on my wp7 installation, so I do NOT want to delete it all, so I will probably need to back it up, but 1. Will it work if I partition the SD card 2. will it even work with zune down ? If you have this rom, please post it
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Hi again Traysa, sorry been really busy in RL lately and haven't had a chance to get on xda. How are you getting on?
I posted a working link at the end of the thread you quoted for the Froyo build, but it would still be too big to install on sdcard without re-partitioning. I am pretty sure that you would lose your stuff if you repartitioned.
But see this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41706158 for a way to boot android without repartitioning, it is also superRAM as the original froyo build, and works well as long as you have only a few apps.

Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa

Traysa said:
Thank you, but I cannot get the ROM, because it was uploaded on DevHost, which I guess does not work any longer, if you still have the rom, would you put it on mediafire or send it as an attachment ? It is kinda sad, that so many HD2 ROMs got lost this way. I am also really surprised that you were able to get android on such a tiny amount of space.
Best regards
Traysa
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here you go
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=818070582850507392
unzip it, put the cm7 folder in the fat16 partition using a card reader
download either the 48 or 64mb data image
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=746010030569968509
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673956719939834348
unzip it and place the data.ext4 file next to the system.ext4 file in cm7 folder on your sdcard
follow the instructions in the above thread to boot from magldr
report back please and good luck

Hi, this build is soo close to booting, but when I go to Ad SD and launch it, Portadroid starts porting is and then it reboots, any ideas ?
I also have an unrelated question, I recently started experimenting with the CM13 build for the HD2, but I cannot figure out, how to get files onit, when I plug it in, it shows that its an MP3 Player and I cannot put any files on it, when I put the SD card in my PC directly,I quickly figure out that Windows is not Linux and does not understand EXT4. Because the browser/the play store does not work, I cannot put any apps on it, so that its usable, I wanna put a veeeery lightweight web browser on it and aptoide, it that works.
PS : Thank you for helping me, it always makes my day !
EDIT : I figured the file transfer out, I had to switch to PTP in settings instead of MTP.